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iClockwork 05/13/19 10:49:51 AM #51:	vocedelmorte posted... iClockwork posted... ScaredKitty posted... What kind of ending did people want for Jaime? Just curious. It would have even been fine if he failed his redemption and went back to Cersei as long as he showed some sort of internal struggle or conflict. Instead it was, "Na jk im a bad dude, cya." He could say it while having internal struggle Good writing would have shown us those internal emotions. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:921834881] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScaredKitty posted...</cite> <quote>What kind of ending did people want for Jaime? Just curious.</quote> It would have even been fine if he failed his redemption and went back to Cersei as long as he showed some sort of internal struggle or conflict. Instead it was, "Na jk im a bad dude, cya."</quote> He could say it while having internal struggle</quote> Good writing would have shown us those internal emotions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 05/13/19 10:50:33 AM #52:	Jaime's ending was completely in character for him....in season 1. This is a good example of badly subverted expectations. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:921834907] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote>Jaime's ending was completely in character for him....in season 1. This is a good example of badly subverted expectations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueBoy675 05/13/19 10:55:13 AM #53:	vocedelmorte posted... ScaredKitty posted... What kind of ending did people want for Jaime? Just curious. They wanted for him to kill off Cersei, because apparently his character development matters more than the love of his life and mother of his children love of his life His ENTIRE ARC is about realizing that his relationship with Cersei is toxic and harmful to his own wellbeing. The fact that he runs back to her after everything hes learned and been through is the biggest middle finger to both Jaime as a character and the audience watching. I cant believe people are defending this garbage. --- Hope rides alone <cite>BlueBoy675 posted [p:921835056] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScaredKitty posted...</cite> <quote>What kind of ending did people want for Jaime? Just curious.</quote> They wanted for him to kill off Cersei, because apparently his character development matters more than the love of his life and mother of his children</quote> love of his life His ENTIRE ARC is about realizing that his relationship with Cersei is toxic and harmful to his own wellbeing. The fact that he runs back to her after everything hes learned and been through is the biggest middle finger to both Jaime as a character and the audience watching. I cant believe people are defending this garbage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BigSLM1993 05/13/19 11:09:06 AM #54:	BlueBoy675 posted... vocedelmorte posted... ScaredKitty posted... What kind of ending did people want for Jaime? Just curious. They wanted for him to kill off Cersei, because apparently his character development matters more than the love of his life and mother of his children love of his life His ENTIRE ARC is about realizing that his relationship with Cersei is toxic and harmful to his own wellbeing. The fact that he runs back to her after everything hes learned and been through is the biggest middle finger to both Jaime as a character and the audience watching. I cant believe people are defending this garbage. Endings I would've preferred: I honestly would've preferred him to die in the Battle of Winterfell, or literally anything else not involving Cersei. I didn't want him to kill Cersei. I felt him leaving her in season 7 finally signified that his life doesn't revolve around her anymore. Like as said above, he realizes she is toxic. <cite>BigSLM1993 posted [p:921835425] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScaredKitty posted...</cite> <quote>What kind of ending did people want for Jaime? Just curious.</quote> They wanted for him to kill off Cersei, because apparently his character development matters more than the love of his life and mother of his children</quote> love of his life His ENTIRE ARC is about realizing that his relationship with Cersei is toxic and harmful to his own wellbeing. The fact that he runs back to her after everything hes learned and been through is the biggest middle finger to both Jaime as a character and the audience watching. I cant believe people are defending this garbage.</quote> Endings I would've preferred: I honestly would've preferred him to die in the Battle of Winterfell, or literally anything else not involving Cersei. I didn't want him to kill Cersei. I felt him leaving her in season 7 finally signified that his life doesn't revolve around her anymore. Like as said above, he realizes she is toxic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 05/13/19 11:11:48 AM #55:	Let's not forget that Brienne in tears after Jaime left her might be the last shot we get of her in the series. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:921835512] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote>Let's not forget that Brienne in tears after Jaime left her might be the last shot we get of her in the series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 05/13/19 11:13:45 AM #56:	Like as said above, he realizes she is toxic. Even if he realizes it, he couldn't just leave her to die <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:921835576] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><quote>Like as said above, he realizes she is toxic. </quote> Even if he realizes it, he couldn't just leave her to die</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 05/13/19 11:17:11 AM #57:	vocedelmorte posted... Like as said above, he realizes she is toxic. Even if he realizes it, he couldn't just leave her to die She just tried to have him assassinated. Also what the fuck did he expect to happen once Daenerys took the throne? At best Cersei would rot in a cell for the rest of her life lol --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:921835675] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><quote> Like as said above, he realizes she is toxic. </quote> Even if he realizes it, he couldn't just leave her to die</quote> She just tried to have him assassinated. Also what the fuck did he expect to happen once Daenerys took the throne? At best Cersei would rot in a cell for the rest of her life lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueBoy675 05/13/19 11:18:58 AM #58:	vocedelmorte posted... Like as said above, he realizes she is toxic. Even if he realizes it, he couldn't just leave her to die Yes he could. Thats the point of his development. --- Hope rides alone <cite>BlueBoy675 posted [p:921835730] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Like as said above, he realizes she is toxic. </quote> Even if he realizes it, he couldn't just leave her to die</quote> Yes he could. Thats the point of his development.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cleo_II 05/13/19 11:20:19 AM #59:	I feel like Im the only person who liked Jaimes ending. Ultimately his story is of a person battling addiction. Hes done terrible things for his addiction. But he tries his hardest to break out of it. He makes a lot of progress and is on his way to redemption. But when it comes to making the ultimate choice - breaking addiction forever (staying with Brienne and letting Cersei die) or embracing it and the consequences (dying with Cersei), he makes his choice. Its very human imo. We see this with people every day. <cite>Cleo_II posted [p:921835775] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote>I feel like Im the only person who liked Jaimes ending. Ultimately his story is of a person battling addiction. Hes done terrible things for his addiction. But he tries his hardest to break out of it. He makes a lot of progress and is on his way to redemption. But when it comes to making the ultimate choice - breaking addiction forever (staying with Brienne and letting Cersei die) or embracing it and the consequences (dying with Cersei), he makes his choice. Its very human imo. We see this with people every day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 05/13/19 11:20:41 AM #60:	BlueBoy675 posted... vocedelmorte posted... ScaredKitty posted... What kind of ending did people want for Jaime? Just curious. They wanted for him to kill off Cersei, because apparently his character development matters more than the love of his life and mother of his children love of his life His ENTIRE ARC is about realizing that his relationship with Cersei is toxic and harmful to his own wellbeing. The fact that he runs back to her after everything hes learned and been through is the biggest middle finger to both Jaime as a character and the audience watching. I cant believe people are defending this garbage. Almost like people do all the time when it comes to toxic relationships? --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:921835787] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScaredKitty posted...</cite> <quote>What kind of ending did people want for Jaime? Just curious.</quote> They wanted for him to kill off Cersei, because apparently his character development matters more than the love of his life and mother of his children</quote> love of his life His ENTIRE ARC is about realizing that his relationship with Cersei is toxic and harmful to his own wellbeing. The fact that he runs back to her after everything hes learned and been through is the biggest middle finger to both Jaime as a character and the audience watching. I cant believe people are defending this garbage.</quote> Almost like people do all the time when it comes to toxic relationships?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 05/13/19 11:21:00 AM #61:	Cleo_II posted... I feel like Im the only person who liked Jaimes ending. Ultimately his story is of a person battling addiction. Hes done terrible things for his addiction. But he tries his hardest to break out of it. He makes a lot of progress and is on his way to redemption. But when it comes to making the ultimate choice - breaking addiction forever (staying with Brienne and letting Cersei die) or embracing it and the consequences (dying with Cersei), he makes his choice. Its very human imo. We see this with people every day. I liked his ending, and I agree. Wouldn't like him dying any other way <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:921835800] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cleo_II posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like Im the only person who liked Jaimes ending. Ultimately his story is of a person battling addiction. Hes done terrible things for his addiction. But he tries his hardest to break out of it. He makes a lot of progress and is on his way to redemption. But when it comes to making the ultimate choice - breaking addiction forever (staying with Brienne and letting Cersei die) or embracing it and the consequences (dying with Cersei), he makes his choice. Its very human imo. We see this with people every day.</quote> I liked his ending, and I agree. Wouldn't like him dying any other way</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 05/13/19 11:22:44 AM #62:	ScazarMeltex posted... Almost like people do all the time when it comes to toxic relationships? not usually after their ex sends assassins out to murder them --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:921835842] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Almost like people do all the time when it comes to toxic relationships? </quote> not usually after their ex sends assassins out to murder them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 05/13/19 11:23:55 AM #63:	Sackgurl posted... ScazarMeltex posted... Almost like people do all the time when it comes to toxic relationships? not usually after their ex sends assassins out to murder them You guys need to realize that she was so much bigger to him than just toxic ex. That part of him kinda canceled his character development <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:921835882] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sackgurl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Almost like people do all the time when it comes to toxic relationships? </quote> not usually after their ex sends assassins out to murder them</quote> You guys need to realize that she was so much bigger to him than just toxic ex. That part of him kinda canceled his character development</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 05/13/19 11:28:32 AM #64:	Cleo_II posted... I feel like Im the only person who liked Jaimes ending. Ultimately his story is of a person battling addiction. Hes done terrible things for his addiction. But he tries his hardest to break out of it. He makes a lot of progress and is on his way to redemption. But when it comes to making the ultimate choice - breaking addiction forever (staying with Brienne and letting Cersei die) or embracing it and the consequences (dying with Cersei), he makes his choice. Its very human imo. We see this with people every day. Hmm i like it <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:921836008] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cleo_II posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like Im the only person who liked Jaimes ending. Ultimately his story is of a person battling addiction. Hes done terrible things for his addiction. But he tries his hardest to break out of it. He makes a lot of progress and is on his way to redemption. But when it comes to making the ultimate choice - breaking addiction forever (staying with Brienne and letting Cersei die) or embracing it and the consequences (dying with Cersei), he makes his choice. Its very human imo. We see this with people every day.</quote> Hmm i like it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 05/13/19 11:31:45 AM #65:	vocedelmorte posted... Sackgurl posted... ScazarMeltex posted... Almost like people do all the time when it comes to toxic relationships? not usually after their ex sends assassins out to murder them You guys need to realize that she was so much bigger to him than just toxic ex. That part of him kinda canceled his character development Jaime and Cersei are both pretty much poster child narcissists. Their ideal sexual partner is basically opposite gender clone of themselves ffs. Mental issues like that don't just resolve themselves magically in a world without proper mental care or pharmaceuticals. Jaime never believed that he deserved redemption, I don't know that he ever believed he needed to be redeemed, nor did he ever really seek it out, he simply started trying to make better choices. When the choice came between being a bit better or losing his drug of choice forever, he choose the drug. It's a choice thousands of heroine addicts make every day. Just because it happens to be a character in a show you like that you wanted something better for doesn't mean you are going to get it. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:921836116] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sackgurl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Almost like people do all the time when it comes to toxic relationships? </quote> not usually after their ex sends assassins out to murder them</quote> You guys need to realize that she was so much bigger to him than just toxic ex. That part of him kinda canceled his character development</quote> Jaime and Cersei are both pretty much poster child narcissists. Their ideal sexual partner is basically opposite gender clone of themselves ffs. Mental issues like that don't just resolve themselves magically in a world without proper mental care or pharmaceuticals. Jaime never believed that he deserved redemption, I don't know that he ever believed he needed to be redeemed, nor did he ever really seek it out, he simply started trying to make better choices. When the choice came between being a bit better or losing his drug of choice forever, he choose the drug. It's a choice thousands of heroine addicts make every day. Just because it happens to be a character in a show you like that you wanted something better for doesn't mean you are going to get it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kayoticdreamz 05/13/19 1:09:16 PM #67:	ScazarMeltex posted... Jaime and Cersei are both pretty much poster child narcissists. Their ideal sexual partner is basically opposite gender clone of themselves ffs. Mental issues like that don't just resolve themselves magically in a world without proper mental care or pharmaceuticals. Jaime never believed that he deserved redemption, I don't know that he ever believed he needed to be redeemed, nor did he ever really seek it out, he simply started trying to make better choices. When the choice came between being a bit better or losing his drug of choice forever, he choose the drug. It's a choice thousands of heroine addicts make every day. Just because it happens to be a character in a show you like that you wanted something better for doesn't mean you are going to get it. Cleo_II posted... I feel like Im the only person who liked Jaimes ending. Ultimately his story is of a person battling addiction. Hes done terrible things for his addiction. But he tries his hardest to break out of it. He makes a lot of progress and is on his way to redemption. But when it comes to making the ultimate choice - breaking addiction forever (staying with Brienne and letting Cersei die) or embracing it and the consequences (dying with Cersei), he makes his choice. Its very human imo. We see this with people every day. This It was a fitting ending. People might be hoping he wouldn't make the choice or even get the choice. Lets not forget his brother played a role here too. Their entire family, the siblings especially have been a clusterfuck that constantly enabled their insane situations and bad decisions. Their long since dead father knew his kids couldn't be trusted to carry on the Lannister name, and he was proven right. And right to the bitter end, the two brothers enable each other to make yet again another terrible decision. The only question is whether Tyrion(spelling??) is dead or not in the last episode. Ultimately, Tyrion was right. Ceresei when put against the wall was willing to run to save her kid. Tyrion despite all Danny's bitching gets proven wrong here about Tyrion whether or not she even finds out about it or whether or not she just kills him finally I guess we'll have to see. Either way, it felt fitting. The drug analogy is accurate, complete with a family that enables the drug habit even to the bitter end. <cite>kayoticdreamz posted [p:921839370] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Jaime and Cersei are both pretty much poster child narcissists. Their ideal sexual partner is basically opposite gender clone of themselves ffs. Mental issues like that don't just resolve themselves magically in a world without proper mental care or pharmaceuticals. Jaime never believed that he deserved redemption, I don't know that he ever believed he needed to be redeemed, nor did he ever really seek it out, he simply started trying to make better choices. When the choice came between being a bit better or losing his drug of choice forever, he choose the drug. It's a choice thousands of heroine addicts make every day. Just because it happens to be a character in a show you like that you wanted something better for doesn't mean you are going to get it.</quote> <cite>Cleo_II posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like Im the only person who liked Jaimes ending. Ultimately his story is of a person battling addiction. Hes done terrible things for his addiction. But he tries his hardest to break out of it. He makes a lot of progress and is on his way to redemption. But when it comes to making the ultimate choice - breaking addiction forever (staying with Brienne and letting Cersei die) or embracing it and the consequences (dying with Cersei), he makes his choice. Its very human imo. We see this with people every day.</quote> This It was a fitting ending. People might be hoping he wouldn't make the choice or even get the choice. Lets not forget his brother played a role here too. Their entire family, the siblings especially have been a clusterfuck that constantly enabled their insane situations and bad decisions. Their long since dead father knew his kids couldn't be trusted to carry on the Lannister name, and he was proven right. And right to the bitter end, the two brothers enable each other to make yet again another terrible decision. The only question is whether Tyrion(spelling??) is dead or not in the last episode. Ultimately, Tyrion was right. Ceresei when put against the wall was willing to run to save her kid. Tyrion despite all Danny's bitching gets proven wrong here about Tyrion whether or not she even finds out about it or whether or not she just kills him finally I guess we'll have to see. Either way, it felt fitting. The drug analogy is accurate, complete with a family that enables the drug habit even to the bitter end.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 05/14/19 2:29:04 PM #68:	As much as I wasn't a fan of the last episode I don't know why people are saying Jaime's character got shit on. I personally thought he would end up in a situation with Cercei similar to the mad king years earlier and be forced to tragically kill the woman he loves, and most likely die shortly after. But I'm not angry that didn't play out exactly how I thought it would. People who thought he was "over" Cercei aren't paying attention. His entire character arc has been of what many would say deep down is a good man doing bad things for his family, particularly his sister who he loved more than anyone else by a very wide margin. I feel like everyone's just pissed cause they thought his story would end in a cheesy redemption with him living happily ever after with Brienne. It's been very obvious for a long time that Jaime's story wasn't going to have a happy ending. Plus the last scene with him and Tyrion was probably the best tear jerker we're gonna get out of this. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:921885886] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote>As much as I wasn't a fan of the last episode I don't know why people are saying Jaime's character got shit on. I personally thought he would end up in a situation with Cercei similar to the mad king years earlier and be forced to tragically kill the woman he loves, and most likely die shortly after. But I'm not angry that didn't play out exactly how I thought it would. People who thought he was "over" Cercei aren't paying attention. His entire character arc has been of what many would say deep down is a good man doing bad things for his family, particularly his sister who he loved more than anyone else by a very wide margin. I feel like everyone's just pissed cause they thought his story would end in a cheesy redemption with him living happily ever after with Brienne. It's been very obvious for a long time that Jaime's story wasn't going to have a happy ending. Plus the last scene with him and Tyrion was probably the best tear jerker we're gonna get out of this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 05/14/19 6:00:58 PM #69:	DuranOfForcena posted... pegusus123456 posted... DuranOfForcena posted... Sonixs posted... He didn't even kill Cersei like the prophecy said. the valonqar prophecy wasn't in the show It was, it just turns out Drogon hatched last. huh? i don't understand this post. the valonqar prophecy was literally left out of the show. Maggy the Frog didn't say anything to Cersei in the show about how she would die or who would kill her. the word "valonqar" was never used. Bruh, it was a joke. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:921894955] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sonixs posted...</cite> <quote>He didn't even kill Cersei like the prophecy said.</quote> the valonqar prophecy wasn't in the show</quote> It was, it just turns out Drogon hatched last.</quote> huh? i don't understand this post. the valonqar prophecy was literally left out of the show. Maggy the Frog didn't say anything to Cersei in the show about how she would die or who would kill her. the word "valonqar" was never used.</quote> Bruh, it was a joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rusty_Shacklefo 05/14/19 6:01:46 PM #70:	Mark_DeRosa posted... Nothing is 100 percent theres like 8 different versions Lol right <cite>Rusty_Shacklefo posted [p:921894984] in Can we tal... [t:77710284]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing is 100 percent theres like 8 different versions</quote> Lol right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Can we talk about Jaime Lannister for a minute? (GoT spoilers) (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Can we talk about Jaime Lannister for a minute? (GoT spoilers)