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Goats
05/09/19 9:14:14 PM
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https://gizmodo.com/chelsea-manning-has-been-released-from-jail-1834656732?rev=1557445964516
Chelsea Manning was released today from the Virginia jail where she spent 62 days for refusing to testify about her past ties to WikiLeaks before a federal grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia.

Attorneys for Manning said the release came after the grand jurys term expired on Thursday. Her legal team has already been served another subpoena. It demands she appear before a different grand jury on May 17. Manning has vowed not to answer any questions and, therefore, could be returned to custody as early as next week.

Chelsea will continue to refuse to answer questions, and will use every available legal defense to prove to District Judge Trenga that she has just cause for her refusal to give testimony, her lawyers said.

Manning was jailed on March 8 for contempt, a process crime, for which she is not being punished; rather, her time in jail is intended to coerce her into cooperating. The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals rejected a motion filed by her legal team to have her set free last month.

On Monday, Manning attorney Moira Meltzer-Cohen filed another motion: It declaring that she would never be convinced to cooperate and that any further confinement would, therefore, serve no legal purpose. In March, U.S. District Judge Claude Hilton said the former soldier-turned-leaker-turned-activist would remain confined until she purges. Her lawyers hope to convince a new judge that this will never become a reality.

Mannings refusal to testify is an act of protest, shes said, against grand juries in general, which she asserts have been used historically to entrap and persecute activists for protected political speech.

Immunity is forced upon grand jury witnesses, negating their privilege against self-incrimination, and stripping them of any right to remain silent. There are no judges present during the testimony and the juries, comprised of 16-23 individuals, are not screened for personal biases. The rules of evidence do not apply.

During her 2013 court martial, Manning confessed to leaking more than 725,000 classified documents to WikiLeaks following her deployment as a U.S. Army intelligence analyst to Iraq in 2009. The documents, acquired from a classified database known as CIDNE, included military reports, State Department diplomatic cables, and Guantanamo Bay detainee profiles, including the profiles of the Tipton Three, a group of British Muslims who were imprisoned at the facility between 2001 and 2004.

Manning was eventually charged by the military with leaking only portions of a couple hundred documents. She was acquitted of aiding the enemy. Her 35-year sentence was commuted by former President Barack Obama in one of his final acts of office.

Julian Assange, the anti-secrecy sites founder, was himself arrested on April 11 after living for nearly seven years under asylum at the Ecuadorian embassy in London. The U.S. government has requested that Assange be extradited by the U.K. to face a felony charge of conspiracy to commit computer crimes related to Mannings 2010 leak.

Assange appeared in court via livestream to decline voluntary extradition to the U.S, where he faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison. A London court found him guilty of jumping bail in 2012 and sentenced him this month to 50 weeks in prison.

Manning, meanwhile, faces no new criminal charges and has not been accused of doing anything illegal that she hasnt already served time for in prison
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gunplagirl
05/09/19 9:18:05 PM
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I'm proud that she's standing up for what she believes in. That's more than 99% of CE can say.
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solosnake
05/09/19 9:18:42 PM
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I hope she has some kind of protection.
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TreyFlowers
05/09/19 9:23:05 PM
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good for her
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Vertania
05/09/19 9:27:41 PM
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Huh, didnt see that coming.

Im sure theyll try like hell to put her back in though, since they really seem to want Assange.
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dave_is_slick
05/09/19 9:28:33 PM
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Who?
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Vertania
05/09/19 9:59:13 PM
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Welp, looks like she was already subpoenaed to appear next Thursday. Guess theyre going to keep trying to force her to testify until she gets sick of going back to jail.

dave_is_slick posted...
Who?

Bradley Manning stole some files from the US military and gave them to WikiLeaks. He transitioned to Chelsea while in jail.
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a-c-a-b
05/09/19 10:08:45 PM
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Vertania posted...
Welp, looks like she was already subpoenaed to appear next Thursday. Guess theyre going to keep trying to force her to testify until she gets sick of going back to jail.

dave_is_slick posted...
Who?

Bradley Manning stole some files from the US military and gave them to WikiLeaks. He transitioned to Chelsea while in jail.

Files that exposed U.S. war crimes in Iraq.

She's more of a hero than most other people in the military.
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DarkRoast
05/09/19 10:10:01 PM
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What she did was treason but it's ok because reasons
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TreyFlowers
05/09/19 10:11:48 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
What she did was treason but it's ok because reasons


better to cover up those war crimes cause MURICA, mirite
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DarkRoast
05/09/19 10:12:46 PM
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TreyFlowers posted...
DarkRoast posted...
What she did was treason but it's ok because reasons


better to cover up those war crimes cause MURICA, mirite


There's no excuse for a soldier to leak classified information. Period.

But especially information like the cables she leaked to WikiLeaks.
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Medussa
05/09/19 10:13:17 PM
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whistleblowing is the exact opposite of treason.
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DarkRoast
05/09/19 10:13:59 PM
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Medussa posted...
whistleblowing is the exact opposite of treason.


Not a whistleblower. She exposed state secrets.

All states have intelligence secrets. Period. Read some Machiavelli.

And leaking a bunch of intelligence cables to WikiLeaks isn't whistleblowing. It's leaking shit to WikiLeaks. The guys who got Trump elected.
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Robot2600
05/09/19 10:17:11 PM
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xD @ citing Machiavelli as a source of ethics
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DarkRoast
05/09/19 10:17:11 PM
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There should be zero celebration for a soldier to send classified documents to shit like WikiLeaks.

If you want to leak, leak it to a major news source who would at least have the journalistic integrity to redact some innocent names.
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DarkRoast
05/09/19 10:17:56 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
xD @ citing Machiavelli as a source of ethics


That's exactly the opposite of what I said
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Zero_Destroyer
05/09/19 10:18:16 PM
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CruelBuffalo
05/09/19 10:20:46 PM
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If she knew of something specific that was illegal and leaked that id be on her side if she exhausted the chain to report

What she did was just pull random files and leaked whatever she could get her hands on. She is not a hero what so ever
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Complete_Idi0t
05/09/19 10:20:52 PM
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So they put Bradley Manning in jail and released Chelsea Manning later? What an embarrassing bookkeeping mistake.
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a-c-a-b
05/09/19 10:23:24 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
There should be zero celebration for a soldier to send classified documents to shit like WikiLeaks.

If you want to leak, leak it to a major news source who would at least have the journalistic integrity to redact some innocent names.

Major news sources don't have journalistic integrity anymore like in the days of Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon papers.

They only have corporate sponsors and shareholders interests in mind.
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Frolex
05/09/19 10:24:23 PM
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Fossil posted...

Sometimes I wonder how this place went to shit, then i look at the users that were seen as suitable to be moderators and it all makes sense
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Fossil
05/09/19 10:25:42 PM
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Frolex posted...
Fossil posted...

Sometimes I wonder how this place went to shit, then i look at the users that were seen as suitable to be moderators and it all makes sense

Oh yeah, I tots contributed to this place going to shit. Tell me more oh wise one
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TreyFlowers
05/09/19 10:30:02 PM
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Frolex posted...
Fossil posted...

Sometimes I wonder how this place went to shit, then i look at the users that were seen as suitable to be moderators and it all makes sense


What was posted
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Fossil
05/09/19 10:32:10 PM
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Opinions that upset snowflakes.
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Frolex
05/09/19 10:33:16 PM
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Fossil posted...
Tell me more oh wise one


Chelsea Manning contributed more to society than you ever will

TreyFlowers posted...
What was posted


Transphobia + advocating for torture
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Complete_Idi0t
05/09/19 10:35:13 PM
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Fox news told me waterboarding isn't torture. It's more like tickling than anything
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Fossil
05/09/19 10:35:14 PM
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Frolex posted...
Chelsea Manning contributed more to society than you ever will

Treason isn't contributing, but I'm unsurprised some no name on CE would praise this.

ps - You don't know what transphobia is
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TreyFlowers
05/09/19 10:36:32 PM
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So what was actually posted then
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Frolex
05/09/19 10:39:30 PM
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Fossil posted...
Treason isn't contributing, but I'm unsurprised some no name on CE would praise this.


lol, imagine caring about someone's clout on a dying message board that was too embarrassed to keep you on even in an unpaid position.

Fossil posted...
ps - You don't know what transphobia is


Is that what you're going to say in your dispute?
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jumi
05/09/19 10:44:05 PM
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At least she's willing to take her punishment, unlike that coward Snowden.
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Fossil
05/09/19 10:44:49 PM
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Frolex posted...
that was too embarrassed to keep you on even in an unpaid position.

You have played too much telephone with the users on CE.

Frolex posted...
Is that what you're going to say in your dispute?

No, because the Moderator isn't dumb enough to mention something unrelated in the note regarding the moderation.
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Frolex
05/09/19 10:53:38 PM
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Fossil posted...
You have played too much telephone with the users on CE.


aw, i'm sure the truth is that you were the glue that held this site together and allen was devastated to see you go

Fossil posted...
No, because the Moderator isn't dumb enough to mention something unrelated in the note regarding the moderation.


Dunno about that, doesn't seem like they exactly pick the geniuses to be moderators
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Fossil
05/09/19 11:17:49 PM
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Frolex posted...
aw, i'm sure the truth is that you were the glue that held this site together and allen was devastated to see you go

It's a lot closer than the misconception I was removed. Feel free to ask him. :)

Frolex posted...
Dunno about that, doesn't seem like they exactly pick the geniuses to be moderators

You should let Allen know in a feedback ticket. I'm sure he'd love to hear from you!
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Complete_Idi0t
05/09/19 11:19:00 PM
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SBAllen is too busy playing with his dolls again to notice my feedback :\
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Frolex
05/09/19 11:27:07 PM
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Yeah i'll get right on that. you just wait right here refreshing the thread and i'll let you know when he gets back to me.
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Goats
05/10/19 9:48:50 AM
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bump
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King_Hutton
05/10/19 9:55:12 AM
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Weird how this topic turned into a Fossil trollfest but awesome to hear shes out of prison
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0TiamaT0
05/10/19 10:02:40 AM
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Treason used to be an executable offense...

Now they get completely unnecessary surgeries that the taxpayers have to pay for.

This person should have never been released from jail to begin with.
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spudger
05/10/19 10:02:58 AM
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TreyFlowers posted...
good for her

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