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WalkingLobsters
12/28/18 12:10:49 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025388/China-Tortured-mother-bear-kills-cub-herself.html


A mother bear has reportedly strangled her cub and then killed herself by running head first into a wall to save them both from a life of torture.

The bears were reportedly having their gall bladders milked daily for 'bear bile' which is used in traditional Chinese medicine to remove 'heat' from the body as well as to treat liver ailments and sore eyes.

The bile, a digestive juice, is harvested through a permanent hole in the abdomen and gall bladder of Asiatic black bears, which, as it is open permanently, is susceptible to infections and diseases which can cause the animals unbearable pain.

This often leads bears trying to kill themselves by punching themselves in the stomach. To stop this they are fitted with iron vests.

It has been reported that the mother and cub were being kept in tiny cages known as 'crush cages' which restricted their movement, on a farm in a remote part of North-West of China, according to website Asia One.

BEAR BILE: THE FACTS
More than 12,000 bears are suffering cruel conditions in Asias bear farms

They are confined so bile can be extracted from their gall bladders and sold for use in some Traditional Asian Medicine, according to World Society for the Protection of Animals (WSPA)

The methods used to extract bile causes severe pain and trauma to the bears, who occupy tiny cages.

Bear farmers sometimes argue that by supplying the demand for bear bile their industry protects wild bears

One witness told Reminbao.com that the mother bear broke out of its cage when it heard her cub in distress before a worker punctured its stomach to milk the bile.

The mother bear rushed to its cub and hugged it until it eventually strangled it before running head-first into a wall, killing itself.

According to Singapore Seen, the witness, who has not been named, said: 'When a worker wanted to open up her cubs stomach, the mother bear broke open the cage and went after the cub.

'After failing to release the chained cub, she hugged the cub.

'Then, the mother bear killed the cub to save it from a life of hell.'

Bears can be farmed for their bile for around 20 years, before they stop producing it and are killed.

Critics, including Traditional Chinese Medicine practitioners, have opposed the use of bear bile in their treatments and increasing numbers are turning to herbal and synthetic alternatives.

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ChainedRedone
12/28/18 12:12:40 AM
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VipaGTS
12/28/18 12:12:47 AM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
'After failing to release the chained cub, she hugged the cub.

'Then, the mother bear killed the cub to save it from a life of hell.'

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glitteringfairy
12/28/18 12:13:42 AM
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This made me very sad
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KamenRiderBlade
12/28/18 12:14:17 AM
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@DarkRoast

Any thoughts?
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Crepes
12/28/18 12:14:59 AM
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China don't have any animal cruelty laws.
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foreverzero212
12/28/18 12:16:37 AM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk

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Looked gf
12/28/18 12:16:53 AM
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This is older than pangaea
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pres_madagascar
12/28/18 12:17:27 AM
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Crepes posted...
China don't have any animal cruelty laws.

They will execute you for fucking with pandas
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KamenRiderBlade
12/28/18 12:17:53 AM
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Crepes posted...
China don't have any animal cruelty laws.
Remember, this is the country that had Tianenmen Square and Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong practictioners.

They could care less about a bears insides.
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Jiek_Fafn
12/28/18 12:20:09 AM
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Do bears even have the reasoning skills to do this? Every bear I've met has just been like "Food!" or "Maul!"

They've never been like, "Son, I can't stand thinking that you'll live a life of torture. We're both going to go to sleep now. Close your eyes and don't open them. Don't be scared. Mommy will see you when you wake up."
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pres_madagascar
12/28/18 12:20:46 AM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Do bears even have the reasoning skills to do this? Every bear I've met has just been like "Food!" or "Maul!"

They've never been like, "Son, I can't stand thinking that you'll live a life of torture. We're both going to go to sleep now. Close your eyes and don't open them. Mommy will see you when you wake up."

Is meating bears a common thing for you?
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A_Good_Boy
12/28/18 12:21:05 AM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Do bears even have the reasoning skills to do this? Every bear I've met has just been like "Food!" or "Maul!"

They've never been like, "Son, I can't stand thinking that you'll live a life of torture. We're both going to go to sleep now. Close your eyes and don't open them. Mommy will see you when you wake up."

What animal can't tell when it's distressed?
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Jiek_Fafn
12/28/18 12:22:13 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Jiek_Fafn posted...
Do bears even have the reasoning skills to do this? Every bear I've met has just been like "Food!" or "Maul!"

They've never been like, "Son, I can't stand thinking that you'll live a life of torture. We're both going to go to sleep now. Close your eyes and don't open them. Mommy will see you when you wake up."

What animal can't tell when it's distressed?


Enough to mercy kill it? Or even realize what a mercy kill is?
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A_Good_Boy
12/28/18 12:22:55 AM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Jiek_Fafn posted...
Do bears even have the reasoning skills to do this? Every bear I've met has just been like "Food!" or "Maul!"

They've never been like, "Son, I can't stand thinking that you'll live a life of torture. We're both going to go to sleep now. Close your eyes and don't open them. Mommy will see you when you wake up."

What animal can't tell when it's distressed?


Enough to mercy kill it? Or even realize what a mercy kill is?

What animal doesn't know what death is?
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Jiek_Fafn
12/28/18 12:28:19 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Jiek_Fafn posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Jiek_Fafn posted...
Do bears even have the reasoning skills to do this? Every bear I've met has just been like "Food!" or "Maul!"

They've never been like, "Son, I can't stand thinking that you'll live a life of torture. We're both going to go to sleep now. Close your eyes and don't open them. Mommy will see you when you wake up."

What animal can't tell when it's distressed?


Enough to mercy kill it? Or even realize what a mercy kill is?

What animal doesn't know what death is?


Mercy killing is something many humans would struggle with. You're telling me a bear has the complex brain power needed to understand that and then make that choice?

Is it more likely that we're just assigning human like reasoning to an animal? Could the bear simply just have freaked out due to torture instead of weighing the complex intricacies of it's child living in pain.

This is a bear. An animal notorious for doing anything it can to keep it's cubs alive. It has very strong instincts to not do this and they're not geniuses of the animal world. It more likely just went mad from torture imo.
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Sonicblack35
12/28/18 12:31:46 AM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Do bears even have the reasoning skills to do this?"


This was my first thought. The bear has to understand the concept of non-existence and then decide that non-existence for not only itself, but also it's cub is preferable to torture. I have doubts that bears are capable of that.
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A_Good_Boy
12/28/18 12:35:19 AM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Jiek_Fafn posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Jiek_Fafn posted...
Do bears even have the reasoning skills to do this? Every bear I've met has just been like "Food!" or "Maul!"

They've never been like, "Son, I can't stand thinking that you'll live a life of torture. We're both going to go to sleep now. Close your eyes and don't open them. Mommy will see you when you wake up."

What animal can't tell when it's distressed?


Enough to mercy kill it? Or even realize what a mercy kill is?

What animal doesn't know what death is?


Mercy killing is something many humans would struggle with. You're telling me a bear has the complex brain power needed to understand that and then make that choice?

Is it more likely that we're just assigning human like reasoning to an animal? Could the bear simply just have freaked out due to torture instead of weighing the complex intricacies of it's child living in pain.

This is a bear. An animal notorious for doing anything it can to keep it's cubs alive. It has very strong instincts to not do this and they're not geniuses of the animal world. It more likely just went mad from torture imo.

Sounds like you answered your own question.
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Returning_CEmen
12/28/18 12:40:30 AM
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I can say that these Asian countries have some of the most fucked up animal practices, but then again some of these US farms are just as bad.
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GiftedACIII
12/28/18 12:49:59 AM
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I remember this. It's one of the very rare instances that animals mercy kill out of fear of future events
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Crepes
12/28/18 5:38:28 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Crepes posted...
China don't have any animal cruelty laws.

They will execute you for fucking with pandas
Yeah but theyll probably get you on a destruction of private property charge as opposed to animal cruelty.
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Waddlez
12/28/18 5:55:39 AM
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Thaddeus_J_Pibb
12/28/18 6:26:19 AM
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Unbearably sad
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catboy0_0
12/28/18 6:28:05 AM
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holy shit. and people say animals don't feel pain like we do "it's just instincts, it's not the same as people hurting"
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DarkRoast
12/28/18 7:49:04 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
@DarkRoast

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I mean its my culture but Id like to point out that this sort of thing only really exists in the deep backwoods part of the country.
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