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codey 12/27/18 12:19:41 PM #54: |
It's kind of funny that when a dude I knew for 20+ years change this name from Johnson to Xavier I never wanted to call him Xavier, but when a guy I knew announced he was transitioning I immediately accepted it.
Like, that made more sense to me than just wanting to change your name for no reason. --- *runs out of topic naked* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CiIantro 12/27/18 12:20:10 PM #55: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
CiIantro posted...RiderofHogs posted...CiIantro posted...There arent even only 2 biological sexes. People can be born with X and Y chromosome anomalies. Good thing number of arms doesnt determine biological sex. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SterlingM 12/27/18 12:20:58 PM #56: |
CiIantro posted...
Good thing number or arms doesnt determine biological sex. but how you feel does? --- Take ya bae, no Harambe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 12/27/18 12:22:48 PM #57: |
CiIantro posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...CiIantro posted...RiderofHogs posted...CiIantro posted...There arent even only 2 biological sexes. People can be born with X and Y chromosome anomalies. Medical anomalies doesnt make something a trait of a species. It is a simple comparison for a even more simple mind such as yours. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mrstcloud1138 12/27/18 12:22:54 PM #58: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
CiIantro posted...averagejoel posted...CiIantro posted...WizardPowers posted...CiIantro posted...WizardPowers posted...I mean to an average normal person just going "oh ok" would be a highly unrealistic reaction to somebody saying "hey [friend/relative] you've known me as a dude for 25 years, but now I'm a chick." Checkmate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 12/27/18 12:23:06 PM #59: |
SterlingM posted...
CiIantro posted...Good thing number or arms doesnt determine biological sex. Lets see this. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dyinglegacy 12/27/18 12:24:01 PM #60: |
VipaGTS posted...
But thats not the only thing that happens. In that case youre right. Just like with anything a change in a relationship like that could affect it and cause anger. There are people on this planet who have never even interacted with someone who has hanged that hate it and are against it. Its why there are so many debates. THOSE people is who most tend to be taking about. Why is it so hard for them? idk. I wouldn't care if a random approached me and stated their name used to be Aaron, but now it's Erin with an E. Or if I called someone a he and they said "it's actually she". It's whatev, I'd call them she then. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 50001 losses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CiIantro 12/27/18 12:24:05 PM #61: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
CiIantro posted...MARKINGRAM22 posted...CiIantro posted...RiderofHogs posted...CiIantro posted...There arent even only 2 biological sexes. People can be born with X and Y chromosome anomalies. Aw cute, the personal attacks are starting. Thanks for proving my point in the OP. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fossil 12/27/18 12:26:10 PM #62: |
CiIantro posted...
Fossil posted...CiIantro posted...Not according to virtually every reputable psychologist and anthropologist. There arent even only 2 biological sexes. People can be born with X and Y chromosome anomalies. Pretty sure it's inconvenient for those born like that and not me. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 12/27/18 12:29:09 PM #63: |
CiIantro posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...CiIantro posted...MARKINGRAM22 posted...CiIantro posted...RiderofHogs posted...CiIantro posted...There arent even only 2 biological sexes. People can be born with X and Y chromosome anomalies. The only thing you are proving is that conservatives arent the only ones anti science anymore. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dyinglegacy 12/27/18 12:30:47 PM #64: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
It is a simple comparison for a even more simple mind such as yours. Don't do that. I know it's easy to do, but degrading lessens the affect of your argument, and it's just a prick thing to do. Resorting to insults is saying "I have nothing of value to add, so you win" --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 50001 losses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 12/27/18 12:32:09 PM #65: |
Dyinglegacy posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...It is a simple comparison for a even more simple mind such as yours. We might as well be debating the existence of dinosaurs and TC is the one that made a topic stating that anyone who disagrees is a raving lunatic foaming from the mouth in anger. Nice double standard. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lairen 12/27/18 12:33:05 PM #66: |
When theres no more drama, well just make more up.
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Dyinglegacy 12/27/18 12:41:09 PM #67: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...MARKINGRAM22 posted...It is a simple comparison for a even more simple mind such as yours. You were pointing out him specifically, tho. Not only that, TC had already been called out by someone else for the redneck statement. I'm just sayin'. There are better ways to discus topics, that doesn't include name calling. I get it, I fall victim to my own impatience and anger too, but it's not something I'm proud of. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 50001 losses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YookaLaylee 12/27/18 12:47:58 PM #69: |
What does a guy turning into a girl have to do with there being more than 2 genders?
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Lairen 12/27/18 12:54:11 PM #70: |
YookaLaylee posted...
What does a guy turning into a girl have to do with there being more than 2 genders? I agree. --- When it rains, it pours. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/27/18 12:54:36 PM #71: |
YookaLaylee posted...
What does a guy turning into a girl have to do with there being more than 2 genders? trans people and nonbinary people alike experience dysphoria associated with having a gender assigned to them at birth that doesn't line up with their actual gender --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fossil 12/27/18 12:57:50 PM #72: |
Conflict posted...
Taking time to process it is one thing but your inability to understand science and have basic manners is most definitely not a universal problem A science that constantly changes. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 12/27/18 12:58:39 PM #73: |
Dyinglegacy posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...It is a simple comparison for a even more simple mind such as yours. Whoa, is that why the left is so quick to insult people. Damn, glad I came back in this topic. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YookaLaylee 12/27/18 12:59:17 PM #74: |
averagejoel posted...
YookaLaylee posted...What does a guy turning into a girl have to do with there being more than 2 genders? Yeah, but if youre a guy who wishes he was a chick those are still just 2 genders. And if youre non binary, isnt that the just the absence of gender? So theres men, women and nothing. Thats still 2 genders --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 12/27/18 1:08:08 PM #75: |
Fossil posted...
Conflict posted...Taking time to process it is one thing but your inability to understand science and have basic manners is most definitely not a universal problem Yes...turns out that our understanding of science changes over time...congrats on finally figuring that one out --- Please ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/27/18 1:15:31 PM #76: |
YookaLaylee posted...
averagejoel posted...YookaLaylee posted...What does a guy turning into a girl have to do with there being more than 2 genders? first of all, a trans woman is not a "guy who wishes he was a chick" - a trans woman is a woman who was incorrectly assigned male at birth anyway, you're partly correct about the nonbinary part - what you're thinking of specifically is galled "agender", which does indeed fall under the nonbinary umbrella. However, the absence of gender is not the only nonbinary gender identity. it can refer to any gender identity other than male and female. --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YookaLaylee 12/27/18 1:16:39 PM #77: |
averagejoel posted...
YookaLaylee posted...averagejoel posted...YookaLaylee posted...What does a guy turning into a girl have to do with there being more than 2 genders? Oh okay. So what are the gender identities besides male and female? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fossil 12/27/18 1:16:44 PM #78: |
PleaseClap posted...
Yes...turns out that our understanding of science changes over time...congrats on finally figuring that one out Trying too hard there, champ. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RiderofHogs 12/27/18 1:17:45 PM #79: |
averagejoel posted...
first of all, a trans woman is not a "guy who wishes he was a chick" - a trans woman is a woman who was incorrectly assigned male at birth Probably because of being born in a male body. --- I'll be riding shotgun, underneath the hot sun, Feeling like a someone. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dyinglegacy 12/27/18 1:20:59 PM #80: |
RiderofHogs posted...
Probably because of being born in a male body. I mean, what else do we have to go on, in most cases? The baby has a penis, it's a male, if it has a vagina, it's a female. We do this very same assigning with most mammals. I know humans are more complicated, but what's the alternative? Let the child decide when it's 5 years old? 10? That just doesn't seem wise. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 50001 losses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zerocide 12/27/18 1:21:09 PM #81: |
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
FLAMING EVIL HOMER posted...Water is wet Yikes --- "Grand Upper!" - Axel Stone http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=618079256 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarqueeSeries 12/27/18 1:22:32 PM #82: |
averagejoel posted...
Drrobotniks posted...CiIantro posted... Are you guys even from the south? Most people here wear redneck as a literal badge of honor, usually in the form of a decal on the back of their truck And yes he's right, they're usually the most ignorant hateful people when it comes to minorities --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/27/18 1:23:04 PM #83: |
YookaLaylee posted...
averagejoel posted...YookaLaylee posted...averagejoel posted...YookaLaylee posted...What does a guy turning into a girl have to do with there being more than 2 genders? I'm not actually super informed on the specifics of this. there are a lot of terms for different genders and I don't really understand what they all mean. sometimes people are close to male or female but don't line up perfectly. as mentioned before, agender is also a thing. so is genderfluid. ther are probably also a lot of forms of gender expression that aren't codified to tho same extent. google is your friend here. there's probably a supreddit for nonbinary issues too. --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 12/27/18 1:24:11 PM #84: |
Fossil posted...
PleaseClap posted...Yes...turns out that our understanding of science changes over time...congrats on finally figuring that one out No, its a big step for you to take. Most people learn about the scientific method in elementary school, but theres no shame in being a late bloomer. Were all proud of you --- Please ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slaya4 12/27/18 1:27:47 PM #86: |
Sure, Ill call you a she or he if you would like, but you have to put in the work to actually look like the sex youre going for. You cant just put on a dress and ask me to call you a her. I need some makeup, foundation or something. Ill meet you half way if you meet me halfway.
My huge problem comes from they, them, it BS that these mega liberals are trying to push. --- Am I going too hard? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/27/18 1:28:29 PM #87: |
MarqueeSeries posted...
Are you guys even from the south? Most people here wear redneck as a literal badge of honor, usually in the form of a decal on the back of their truck I see it as being pretty similar to how some black people use the n word as a term of endearment to each other (obviously it's not on that level, but it's a similar principle). it's an intra-group term. still generally not cool for someone outside the group to use it And yes he's right, they're usually the most ignorant hateful people when it comes to minorities I'm skeptical of this information, so I'm gonna need some hard data to back this up --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YookaLaylee 12/27/18 1:30:16 PM #88: |
averagejoel posted...
YookaLaylee posted...averagejoel posted...YookaLaylee posted...averagejoel posted...YookaLaylee posted...What does a guy turning into a girl have to do with there being more than 2 genders? Its just that whenever people bring up these new genders its sounds like you theyre just sayingg variations of the main 2. Like you mentioned gender fluid. Thats someones who goes back and forth between being a guy or a girl, right? So that isnt actually another gender. Youre just alternating between being a man or a woman. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 12/27/18 1:32:22 PM #89: |
Slaya4 posted...
You cant just put on a dress and ask me to call you a her. I need some makeup, foundation or something. I assume that you apply this same standard to cis women? Slaya4 posted... My huge problem comes from they, them, You're going to have to explain why this is so offensive to you --- Please ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarqueeSeries 12/27/18 1:33:19 PM #90: |
averagejoel posted...
MarqueeSeries posted...Are you guys even from the south? Most people here wear redneck as a literal badge of honor, usually in the form of a decal on the back of their truck It's not really something that can be cited beyond anecdotal evidence, but I've lived in rural farm towns for most of my life. I'm pretty confident in what I've seen and heard --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nintendo415 12/27/18 1:35:35 PM #91: |
Detective_pika posted...
CiIantro posted...Amazing how much people like to intrude on others personal lives even when it doesnt affect them. Amen --- Where has all the Rum Gone?! FC: 3497-2764-2115 IGN: Raphael ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rebel_Patriot 12/27/18 1:36:24 PM #92: |
All these posts and Ive still only come up with 2, he and she.
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SaithSayer 12/27/18 1:38:14 PM #93: |
Incorrectly assigned at birth? That sounds like you think people are made on an assembly line and someone fucked up and swapped up the male and female tag.
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tiornys 12/27/18 1:40:01 PM #94: |
YookaLaylee posted...
Its just that whenever people bring up these new genders its sounds like you theyre just sayingg variations of the main 2. Like you mentioned gender fluid. Thats someones who goes back and forth between being a guy or a girl, right? So that isnt actually another gender. Youre just alternating between being a man or a woman. I bet a lot of this is a consequence of the language not having good words for use in defining the concepts that non-binary people are trying to describe. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slaya4 12/27/18 1:40:36 PM #95: |
PleaseClap posted...
Slaya4 posted...You cant just put on a dress and ask me to call you a her. I need some makeup, foundation or something. Nope because a born woman usually looks like a woman. Sometimes some woman look like men or vice versa, but if they talk and they sound like a woman/man, then sorry, my bad. It happens some guys look girly some girls look manly. My point is dudes wanting to be women have to put in the effort. Women wanting to be dudes have to put in the effort. Plan and simple. --- Am I going too hard? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/27/18 1:41:13 PM #96: |
YookaLaylee posted...
Its just that whenever people bring up these new genders its sounds like you theyre just sayingg variations of the main 2. Like you mentioned gender fluid. Thats someones who goes back and forth between being a guy or a girl, right? So that isnt actually another gender. Youre just alternating between being a man or a woman. Look, you're talking to the wrong guy here. I really don't know much about these identities, but I do trust that they are different from the male/female binary and for the most part, that's all I need to know. there are people who know more about this than I do. you should seek them out and listen to what they have to say. MarqueeSeries posted... It's not really something that can be cited beyond anecdotal evidence, but I've lived in rural farm towns for most of my life. I'm pretty confident in what I've seen and heard I'm just not at all convinced that they're more hateful than the rich people who can (and do) influence policy --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fossil 12/27/18 1:41:16 PM #97: |
Conflict posted...
Fossil posted...Conflict posted...Taking time to process it is one thing but your inability to understand science and have basic manners is most definitely not a universal problem And tomorrow we could discover something to suggest our studies regarding differences in transgender brains was completely wrong. Friendly reminder that disagreeing with something should not be associated with disliking or hating certain individuals. Not believing in the Bible doesn't mean you dislike religious people, does it? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/27/18 1:42:19 PM #98: |
Rebel_Patriot posted...
All these posts and Ive still only come up with 2, he and she. "he" and "she" are pronouns, not genders --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainedRedone 12/27/18 1:48:33 PM #100: |
TC will still deny he's Sillyknees. I guess the shame of being spanked by Proudclad, of all people is too great for him.
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averagejoel 12/27/18 1:55:14 PM #102: |
ChainedRedone posted...
TC will still deny he's Sillyknees. I guess the shame of being spanked by Proudclad, of all people is too great for him. tc is pretty clearly not sillyknees also no one has ever been spanked by proudclad --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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