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gatorsPENSbucs
12/27/18 9:56:48 AM
#51:


So if Trump should get in trouble for this then the news outlets showing the pictures should be shut down and everyone there fired? Damn, I'm sure a ton of places have posted these pictures, gonna be a lot of people without jobs.
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Mr_Karate_II
12/27/18 9:58:55 AM
#52:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
So if Trump should get in trouble for this then the news outlets showing the pictures should be shut down and everyone there fired? Damn, I'm sure a ton of places have posted these pictures, gonna be a lot of people without jobs.

Yes they should be fired if they reposted the pictures.
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codey
12/27/18 9:59:11 AM
#53:


I worked alongside operators and trained a few of them while I was in the Air Force. I can assure you this is a big deal.
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dave_is_slick
12/27/18 10:05:05 AM
#54:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
So if Trump should get in trouble for this then the news outlets showing the pictures should be shut down and everyone there fired? Damn, I'm sure a ton of places have posted these pictures, gonna be a lot of people without jobs.

This is why I'll keep calling you cultists the stupidest fucking people on this planet.
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gatorsPENSbucs
12/27/18 10:06:23 AM
#55:


dave_is_slick posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
So if Trump should get in trouble for this then the news outlets showing the pictures should be shut down and everyone there fired? Damn, I'm sure a ton of places have posted these pictures, gonna be a lot of people without jobs.

This is why I'll keep calling you cultists the stupidest fucking people on this planet.

Yikes, what's got you so upset. Didn't get everything you wanted for Christmas?
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ScazarMeltex
12/27/18 10:07:03 AM
#56:


SterlingM posted...
my guess is this isn't a big deal

My guess is that you don't understand the nature of covert spec ops work.
I'm also going to guess that you didn't think the outing of Valerie Plame was a big deal either.
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Philoktetes
12/27/18 10:07:06 AM
#57:


im a trained navy seal with 20 confirmed kills and this honestly isnt a big deal

media does this shit all the time

we have ways of damage control
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dave_is_slick
12/27/18 10:07:37 AM
#58:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
So if Trump should get in trouble for this then the news outlets showing the pictures should be shut down and everyone there fired? Damn, I'm sure a ton of places have posted these pictures, gonna be a lot of people without jobs.

This is why I'll keep calling you cultists the stupidest fucking people on this planet.

Yikes, what's got you so upset. Didn't get everything you wanted for Christmas?

I didn't. Cultists are still fucking idiots so I didn't get my wish.
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gatorsPENSbucs
12/27/18 10:09:26 AM
#59:


I see.

Maybe some anger management classes for next Christmas would be good.
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Noirespanties
12/27/18 10:12:53 AM
#60:


Obama wears a different suit- Douchebag
Trump shows the faces of Black ops soldiers- Sweetman
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dave_is_slick
12/27/18 10:13:05 AM
#61:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I see.

Maybe some anger management classes for next Christmas would be good.

I was thinking general classes for cultists so they can be educated for once in their lives but here you are.
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Tyranthraxus
12/27/18 10:14:26 AM
#62:


Cheney: I'm going to Dox Valerie Plame it's going to be the worst opsec violation in history

Trump: Hold my McDonald's Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese and large fries
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Darkman124
12/27/18 10:16:36 AM
#63:


BalisticWarri0r posted...
Where is the DOD policy indicating that is a requirement?


it would be in the security classification guide relating to classified asset team operations. if the identity (per facial recognition software) of an asset is classified secret by the SCG, then no photos of them can ever be posted in public alongside their operation team identification, as this confirms the identity of an asset, which violates the SCG rules.

it's probably one of the most obvious and straightforward ways you can't combine two pieces of unclassified information to make one piece of classified information. possibly the most directly damaging too. there are much more obscure ways to commit security violations.

you do know this, right? you've held a clearance and received briefings on handling classified information?
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Bio1590
12/27/18 10:17:33 AM
#64:


DifferentialEquation posted...
Detective_pika posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/05/09/obama-put-a-target-on-their-backs-seal-team-6-family-members-say


But Obama!


So stop pretending that you care when it happens under Trump.

This is no different how tear gas was used at the border under Obama or how the ACLU found widespread abuse of illegal immigrants in detention centers during the Obama administration and there wasn't a peep about it from the people are going ballistic every time Trump makes a tweet.

This is bad even for your shit gimmick.
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Bio1590
12/27/18 10:18:38 AM
#65:


BalisticWarri0r posted...
Joke topic.

4 AMP and 3 are in this topic, 1 is from 2 weeks ago
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Darkman124
12/27/18 10:19:17 AM
#66:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
So if Trump should get in trouble for this then the news outlets showing the pictures should be shut down and everyone there fired? Damn, I'm sure a ton of places have posted these pictures, gonna be a lot of people without jobs.


once a spill has happened and cleanup determined to be impossible, only the party responsible for the spill is considered to be at fault

also news media is not obligated to obey SCG classification rules
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GallisOTK
12/27/18 10:20:37 AM
#67:


I've lost track of how many times I've thought "it can't possibly get any stupider than this" about one of Trump's boneheaded mistakes, only for him to 1-up himself with something even stupider.
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DifferentialEquation
12/27/18 10:25:05 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Detective_pika posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/05/09/obama-put-a-target-on-their-backs-seal-team-6-family-members-say


But Obama!


So stop pretending that you care when it happens under Trump.

This is no different how tear gas was used at the border under Obama or how the ACLU found widespread abuse of illegal immigrants in detention centers during the Obama administration and there wasn't a peep about it from the people are going ballistic every time Trump makes a tweet.

This is bad even for your shit gimmick.


What's bad about that post?

https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody

The report is based on over 30,000 pages of documents dated between 2009 and 2014. The documents were obtained by the ACLU Foundation of San Diego & Imperial Counties and the ACLU Foundation of Arizona through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit co-counseled with Cooley LLP. The documents feature numerous cases of shocking violence and abuse against migrant children, many of whom arrived in the United States fleeing violence in their home countries.


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/nov/28/sarah-huckabee-sanders/sarah-sanders-says-obama-tear-gas-border-month/

Where were the all the cries of "omg concentration camps! omg nazi germany!" when this was happening during Obama's tenure?

Oh right. It was more along the lines of "But Obama's so cool and charming and all the late show hosts told me to like him so he can't be doing anything wrong!"
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E32005
12/27/18 10:25:40 AM
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Dampproof
12/27/18 10:28:39 AM
#70:


So back on topic then.

Their post-military opportunities in the clandestine world just went up in smoke. Those videos were long enough for a facial recognition algorithm to match them in the future.

They can also spend the rest of their days never traveling outside the U.S., constantly looking over their shoulders, and worrying about their families being taken and used as leverage against them.

He betrayed the SEAL team by effectively ending their careers.
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Darkman124
12/27/18 10:30:15 AM
#71:


Dampproof posted...
So back on topic then.

Their post-military opportunities in the clandestine world just went up in smoke. Those videos were long enough for a facial recognition algorithm to match them in the future.

They can also spend the rest of their days never traveling outside the U.S., constantly looking over their shoulders, and worrying about their families being taken and used as leverage against them.

He betrayed the SEAL team by effectively ending their careers.


i consider this an accurate evaluation of the damage
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Bio1590
12/27/18 10:30:37 AM
#72:


DifferentialEquation posted...
Bio1590 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Detective_pika posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/05/09/obama-put-a-target-on-their-backs-seal-team-6-family-members-say


But Obama!


So stop pretending that you care when it happens under Trump.

This is no different how tear gas was used at the border under Obama or how the ACLU found widespread abuse of illegal immigrants in detention centers during the Obama administration and there wasn't a peep about it from the people are going ballistic every time Trump makes a tweet.

This is bad even for your shit gimmick.


What's bad about that post?

https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody

The report is based on over 30,000 pages of documents dated between 2009 and 2014. The documents were obtained by the ACLU Foundation of San Diego & Imperial Counties and the ACLU Foundation of Arizona through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit co-counseled with Cooley LLP. The documents feature numerous cases of shocking violence and abuse against migrant children, many of whom arrived in the United States fleeing violence in their home countries.


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/nov/28/sarah-huckabee-sanders/sarah-sanders-says-obama-tear-gas-border-month/

Where were the all the cries of "omg concentration camps! omg nazi germany!" when this was happening during Obama's tenure?

Oh right. It was more along the lines of "But Obama's so cool and charming and all the late show hosts told me to like him so he can't be doing anything wrong!"

This is bad, even for your shit gimmick.

This topic isn't even about the border. You're literally deflecting to Obama's immigration/border policy (which I've never seen anyone on here actively try to defend, only criticize) in a topic about Trump potentially compromising one of the SEAL teams.
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bover_87
12/27/18 10:30:39 AM
#73:


E32005 posted...
Wow DE legit triggered

Sad part is that the satire account is actually less nonsensical than the "serious" cultists.
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ScazarMeltex
12/27/18 10:30:57 AM
#74:


Dampproof posted...
So back on topic then.

Their post-military opportunities in the clandestine world just went up in smoke. Those videos were long enough for a facial recognition algorithm to match them in the future.

They can also spend the rest of their days never traveling outside the U.S., constantly looking over their shoulders, and worrying about their families being taken and used as leverage against them.

He betrayed the SEAL team by effectively ending their careers.

What he did is treasonous, on the same level as Dick Cheney outing Valerie Plame because he was butthurt at her husband.
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The Great Muta 22
12/27/18 10:38:30 AM
#75:


Dampproof posted...
So back on topic then.

Their post-military opportunities in the clandestine world just went up in smoke. Those videos were long enough for a facial recognition algorithm to match them in the future.

They can also spend the rest of their days never traveling outside the U.S., constantly looking over their shoulders, and worrying about their families being taken and used as leverage against them.

He betrayed the SEAL team by effectively ending their careers.


This, basically. This is the type of shit that any other President or government official would have been raked over the coals for, as we've seen happen before. But because Trump is held at such a low standard compared to literally anyone else in his position, his ardent defenders will hand wave this away and pretend that it's a nonissue and that anyone who has a problem with it are just faking their outrage. Because to them Trump can do no wrong ever and everyone is just "too mean" to him.
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ShroomKingJr
12/27/18 10:51:10 AM
#76:


I don't understand how the families are at risk. It's not like the terrorists can enter America illegally and hide out in a Sanctuary City to plan their revenge...
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Darkman124
12/27/18 10:55:40 AM
#77:


ShroomKingJr posted...
I don't understand how the families are at risk. It's not like the terrorists can enter America illegally and hide out in a Sanctuary City to plan their revenge...


because US assets are at risk from state entities as well as non-state entities
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Detective_pika
12/27/18 11:00:27 AM
#78:


Mr_Karate_II posted...
There's no way that he doesn't face repercussions of some sort for this.


Teflon don faces no repercussions for anything
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Squall28
12/27/18 11:00:33 AM
#79:


Wasn't this the plot of a James Bond movie? There's a disc with all the agents infos, and the whole movie was about keeping it away from villains.

Trump just gave it away for free!
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Darkman124
12/27/18 11:01:18 AM
#80:


Squall28 posted...
Trump just gave it away for free!


just because we didnt see the payment doesnt mean it wasnt made

if there was a payment he should be executed
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Marmitecashews
12/27/18 11:02:11 AM
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The Great Muta 22
12/27/18 11:09:01 AM
#82:


ShroomKingJr posted...
I don't understand how the families are at risk. It's not like the terrorists can enter America illegally and hide out in a Sanctuary City to plan their revenge...


Playing buzzword bingo doesn't change what happened here, despite your desperate attempts to deflect.
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Detective_pika
12/27/18 11:09:59 AM
#83:


Philoktetes posted...
im a trained navy seal with 20 confirmed kills and this honestly isnt a big deal

media does this shit all the time

we have ways of damage control


I have investigated into this. Your 20 kills were:

- your chance of getting laid
- your chance of getting good school grades
- your credibility here
- your pet dog (neglect)
- your pet cat (neglect)
- your pet hamster (sat on it accidentally)
- your relationship prospects
- your chance of getting taken seriously here
- your credibility
- your credit history
- your chance to get a decent mortgage
- your gamefaqs reputation
- your off gamefaqs reputation
- your chance to ever break a Pac-Man record
- your chance of becoming a gamefaqs mod
- your chance of becoming a gamefaqs admin
- your chance of becoming a Pokmon gym master at your local bookstore
- your chance of explaining to your room mate what they crusty sock under your bed is for
- Your chance of learning a foreign language
- your chance of having detective pikachu take any cases from you in the future
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vicedungwinsgam
12/27/18 11:10:09 AM
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i care

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Detective_pika
12/27/18 11:12:16 AM
#85:


Darkman124 posted...
Dampproof posted...
So back on topic then.

Their post-military opportunities in the clandestine world just went up in smoke. Those videos were long enough for a facial recognition algorithm to match them in the future.

They can also spend the rest of their days never traveling outside the U.S., constantly looking over their shoulders, and worrying about their families being taken and used as leverage against them.

He betrayed the SEAL team by effectively ending their careers.


i consider this an accurate evaluation of the damage


Serious question: is the average trump voter that racist?

Just reading the consequences that these heroes (SEAL team) will face makes me angry. Yet the support our armed forces people dont give a shit about this apparently simply because a guy who feels about race the way they do did it.
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SterlingM
12/27/18 11:15:40 AM
#86:


Obama supporters were still Obama supporters after he did something like this

Why do you expect Trump supporters to flip now?
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Detective_pika
12/27/18 11:16:37 AM
#87:


Detective_pika posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Dampproof posted...
So back on topic then.

Their post-military opportunities in the clandestine world just went up in smoke. Those videos were long enough for a facial recognition algorithm to match them in the future.

They can also spend the rest of their days never traveling outside the U.S., constantly looking over their shoulders, and worrying about their families being taken and used as leverage against them.

He betrayed the SEAL team by effectively ending their careers.


i consider this an accurate evaluation of the damage


Serious question: is the average trump voter that racist?

Just reading the consequences that these heroes (SEAL team) will face makes me angry. Yet the support our armed forces people dont give a shit about this apparently simply because a guy who feels about race the way they do did it.


I guess this answers my question:

SterlingM posted...
Obama supporters were still Obama supporters after he did something like this

Why do you expect Trump supporters to flip now?
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Markingham
12/27/18 11:18:58 AM
#88:


wasn't a big deal when Obama was loading them up on broken helicopters to get shot down by the rebels the Israeli's armed with our money
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Darkman124
12/27/18 11:21:09 AM
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Detective_pika posted...

Serious question: is the average trump voter that racist?

Just reading the consequences that these heroes (SEAL team) will face makes me angry. Yet the support our armed forces people dont give a s*** about this apparently simply because a guy who feels about race the way they do did it.

mix

you have single issue voters who just want tax cuts/pro-business policy that cringe at his actions but arent going to oppose him (30%+ of all republicans, basically the koch wing of the party)

you have foreign policy hawks, who would hate this (10-15% of republicans, max. dying breed)

and you have the christian conservatives who obviously dont actually care about jesus or they wouldnt have ever backed trump and are using it as a cover for racism, and the actual racists who dont try to hide it

so i guess half-ish.

my best friend is a hawk and strong conservative from fiscal conservative perspective, and he hates trump but begrudgingly voted for him. we can talk about politics in part because we can both see that trump's actions are a mix of insane bullshit and obviously political moves that lack empathy for americans. he will still vote R but supports a primary challenger in 2020. rational viewpoint.
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SterlingM
12/27/18 11:33:06 AM
#91:


dems will never learn

you can't scare anyone to your side anymore, especially since we've seen this before

having a hissy-fit about how this is the worst thing ever just won't cut it
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Anteaterking
12/27/18 11:33:36 AM
#92:


Markingham posted...
wasn't a big deal when Obama was loading them up on broken helicopters to get shot down by the rebels the Israeli's armed with our money


I don't understand the attempt at comparison here.
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TheBiggerWiggle
12/27/18 11:36:43 AM
#93:


We have new users agreeing with the shit posts of rookie users, and other rookie users bringing up Obama.

Looks like Trump fucked up here.
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Kineth
12/27/18 11:37:48 AM
#94:


Goats posted...
How come when Chelsea Manning did it, she was the world's worst villainess, but when Trump does it, it's no big deal yanma?


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MARKINGRAM22
12/27/18 11:38:10 AM
#95:


Dampproof posted...
SterlingM posted...
my guess is this isn't a big deal


isnt a big deal? You do realize this puts those members of Seal Team Five at risk now because their operational effectiveness has now been shot to hell. Their faces will be circulated through every terrorist network available. They can no longer operate covertly because of this compromise. You do know how much bounties for Navy Seal Team members go for?

With social media they can use the identities obtained to even find the families of these Marines.

isn't a big deal? Even most MAGA hats understand the importance of OPSEC and protecting our boys over seas.


Being a SEAL isn't a secret. They have SEAL bars in San Diego, I've talked to them. Their operations are what's secret.
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gatorsPENSbucs
12/27/18 11:38:32 AM
#96:


dave_is_slick posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I see.

Maybe some anger management classes for next Christmas would be good.

I was thinking general classes for cultists so they can be educated for once in their lives but here you are.

You keep saying cultists like it's an insult to me or something. Know who you're talking to before trying to be all high and mighty. And maybe some shit talking classes with those anger management classes would be good for you.
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The Great Muta 22
12/27/18 11:41:17 AM
#97:


SterlingM posted...
dems will never learn

you can't scare anyone to your side anymore, especially since we've seen this before

having a hissy-fit about how this is the worst thing ever just won't cut it


We don't need to scare people to our side to we keep winning elections. Trump is the best recruiting tool for the Dems in a long time
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CyricZ
12/27/18 11:42:33 AM
#98:


Detective_pika posted...
Philoktetes posted...
im a trained navy seal with 20 confirmed kills and this honestly isnt a big deal

media does this shit all the time

we have ways of damage control


I have investigated into this. Your 20 kills were:

- your chance of getting laid
- your chance of getting good school grades
- your credibility here
- your pet dog (neglect)
- your pet cat (neglect)
- your pet hamster (sat on it accidentally)
- your relationship prospects
- your chance of getting taken seriously here
- your credibility
- your credit history
- your chance to get a decent mortgage
- your gamefaqs reputation
- your off gamefaqs reputation
- your chance to ever break a Pac-Man record
- your chance of becoming a gamefaqs mod
- your chance of becoming a gamefaqs admin
- your chance of becoming a Pokmon gym master at your local bookstore
- your chance of explaining to your room mate what they crusty sock under your bed is for
- Your chance of learning a foreign language
- your chance of having detective pikachu take any cases from you in the future

Okay.

Okay.

I had a good smile at this.
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Detective_pika
12/27/18 11:43:05 AM
#99:


Darkman124 posted...
Detective_pika posted...

Serious question: is the average trump voter that racist?

Just reading the consequences that these heroes (SEAL team) will face makes me angry. Yet the support our armed forces people dont give a s*** about this apparently simply because a guy who feels about race the way they do did it.

mix

you have single issue voters who just want tax cuts/pro-business policy that cringe at his actions but arent going to oppose him (30%+ of all republicans, basically the koch wing of the party)

you have foreign policy hawks, who would hate this (10-15% of republicans, max. dying breed)

and you have the christian conservatives who obviously dont actually care about jesus or they wouldnt have ever backed trump and are using it as a cover for racism, and the actual racists who dont try to hide it

so i guess half-ish.

my best friend is a hawk and strong conservative from fiscal conservative perspective, and he hates trump but begrudgingly voted for him. we can talk about politics in part because we can both see that trump's actions are a mix of insane bullshit and obviously political moves that lack empathy for americans. he will still vote R but supports a primary challenger in 2020. rational viewpoint.


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SterlingM
12/27/18 11:45:20 AM
#100:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
SterlingM posted...
dems will never learn

you can't scare anyone to your side anymore, especially since we've seen this before

having a hissy-fit about how this is the worst thing ever just won't cut it


We don't need to scare people to our side to we keep winning elections. Trump is the best recruiting tool for the Dems in a long time

the wall will be built and all the dems can do is cry about trump's taxes and him signing maga hats
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