D: If you're physically capable of working and don't, you don't deserve aid

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PIITB415 12/24/18 12:29:08 PM #1:	C --- https://imgur.com/VawbBVM https://imgur.com/6Si4h <cite>PIITB415 posted [p:914644708] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>C</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
roos1046 Reborn 12/24/18 12:29:53 PM #2:	C --- When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself. https://imgur.com/FoV5u <cite>roos1046 Reborn posted [p:914644750] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>C</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PIITB415 12/24/18 12:30:42 PM #4:	CirocObama posted... Case by case scenario. No. We aren't all Snowflake's --- https://imgur.com/VawbBVM https://imgur.com/6Si4h <cite>PIITB415 posted [p:914644784] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>CirocObama posted...</cite> <quote>Case by case scenario.</quote> No. We aren't all Snowflake's</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mareen 12/24/18 12:41:20 PM #6:	Not necessarily. Someone with a severe mental disability can be physically capable of working, yet still need aid. --- Awz od fiis <cite>Mareen posted [p:914645230] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>Not necessarily. Someone with a severe mental disability can be physically capable of working, yet still need aid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 12/24/18 12:42:30 PM #7:	Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not. --- Come check out my community board for NEET discussions: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1467-neet-discussions <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:914645285] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sexypwnstar 12/24/18 12:45:38 PM #9:	You want Alzheimer's patients to work a construction job? --- https://imgur.com/Su4g5 https://imgur.com/21DiJ <cite>Sexypwnstar posted [p:914645430] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>You want Alzheimer's patients to work a construction job?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gguirao 12/24/18 12:47:23 PM #11:	D. It's not that simple. It doesn't matter how able-bodied you are if no one is hiring or they just don't hire you. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:914645501] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>D. It's not that simple. It doesn't matter how able-bodied you are if no one is hiring or they just don't hire you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 12/24/18 12:47:39 PM #12:	Hard C. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:914645519] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>Hard C.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpudForce 12/24/18 12:49:20 PM #13:	CirocObama posted... Case by case scenario. --- And when he gets to Heaven, to St. Peter he will tell, one more soldier reporting sir, I have served my time in hell. <cite>SpudForce posted [p:914645594] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>CirocObama posted...</cite> <quote>Case by case scenario.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 12/24/18 12:50:42 PM #14:	PIITB415 posted... CirocObama posted... Case by case scenario. No. We aren't all Snowflake's Yes we are. Everyone is different. We are not all drone who act and think the same. I know it's hard to treat every single person as different but that is the case. --- Sarcasm is my basic function. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:914645660] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>PIITB415 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CirocObama posted...</cite> <quote>Case by case scenario.</quote> No. We aren't all Snowflake's</quote> Yes we are. Everyone is different. We are not all drone who act and think the same. I know it's hard to treat every single person as different but that is the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeuralLaxative 12/24/18 12:51:20 PM #15:	Nothing brings me more joy than shutting down plebs trying to get their minor condition to qualify for long time disability --- https://imgur.com/rPJnWhf <cite>NeuralLaxative posted [p:914645684] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>Nothing brings me more joy than shutting down plebs trying to get their minor condition to qualify for long time disability</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpudForce 12/24/18 12:54:16 PM #17:	RoadsterUFO posted... gguirao posted... D. It's not that simple. It doesn't matter how able-bodied you are if no one is hiring or they just don't hire you. Employment isnt a zero-sum game, there will always be jobs and someone hiring. If youre able bodied and not getting hired youre not trying hard enough. It says a lot about an invidiuals sorry ass work ethic if theyre unemployed in the United States when the low/no-skilled immigrant with broken English (or zero English) can find employment over them. This may have been true a decade or two ago, but this is the era of increasing automation especially in the low skilled sector. What you're saying is increasingly no longer the truth with each passing year as businesses find ways to automate. --- And when he gets to Heaven, to St. Peter he will tell, one more soldier reporting sir, I have served my time in hell. <cite>SpudForce posted [p:914645811] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gguirao posted...</cite> <quote>D. It's not that simple. It doesn't matter how able-bodied you are if no one is hiring or they just don't hire you.</quote> Employment isnt a zero-sum game, there will always be jobs and someone hiring. If youre able bodied and not getting hired youre not trying hard enough. It says a lot about an invidiuals sorry ass work ethic if theyre unemployed in the United States when the low/no-skilled immigrant with broken English (or zero English) can find employment over them.</quote> This may have been true a decade or two ago, but this is the era of increasing automation especially in the low skilled sector. What you're saying is increasingly no longer the truth with each passing year as businesses find ways to automate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragon239 12/24/18 1:29:02 PM #19:	RoadsterUFO posted... The only true rights are property rights How's that? --- https://imgur.com/nkZgO <cite>Dragon239 posted [p:914647291] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>The only true rights are property rights</quote> How's that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FabIemaster 12/24/18 1:32:10 PM #21:	C --- http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s259/Fable_Master/0927001527.jpg <cite>FabIemaster posted [p:914647425] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>C</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ambience 12/24/18 2:50:33 PM #24:	RoadsterUFO posted... REMercsChamp posted... Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not. No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights. We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself. --- A Beach in Winter <cite>Ambience posted [p:914650890] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not.</quote> No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights.</quote> We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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REMercsChamp 12/24/18 2:54:59 PM #26:	Ambience posted... RoadsterUFO posted... REMercsChamp posted... Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not. No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights. We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself. Even if they're more fortunate I think we should still be helping these guys out. Like people who were born into good families but chose not to work or get an education even into their 30s and now find themselves down on their luck. We should be giving these guys funds as well. --- Come check out my community board for NEET discussions: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1467-neet-discussions <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:914651088] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not.</quote> No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights.</quote> We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself.</quote> Even if they're more fortunate I think we should still be helping these guys out. Like people who were born into good families but chose not to work or get an education even into their 30s and now find themselves down on their luck. We should be giving these guys funds as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthGravid 12/24/18 2:55:56 PM #27:	gguirao posted... D. It's not that simple. It doesn't matter how able-bodied you are if no one is hiring or they just don't hire you. Sometimes the jobs aren't there. To get creative and make your own job takes money and time too. As long as effort is shown, I think help is ok, and yes, I do give money to help others on a regular basis. --- 'Hey look at me, I'm Mr. So-And-So Dick! I've got such-and-such for a penis.'" - Werner Herzog <cite>DarthGravid posted [p:914651132] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>gguirao posted...</cite> <quote>D. It's not that simple. It doesn't matter how able-bodied you are if no one is hiring or they just don't hire you.</quote> Sometimes the jobs aren't there. To get creative and make your own job takes money and time too. As long as effort is shown, I think help is ok, and yes, I do give money to help others on a regular basis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 12/24/18 2:57:12 PM #28:	Hard C. I know a few people who choose not to go back to work and pretend to stay injured to collect checks. --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:914651193] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>Hard C. I know a few people who choose not to go back to work and pretend to stay injured to collect checks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ambience 12/24/18 2:58:12 PM #29:	REMercsChamp posted... Ambience posted... RoadsterUFO posted... REMercsChamp posted... Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not. No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights. We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself. Even if they're more fortunate I think we should still be helping these guys out. Like people who were born into good families but chose not to work or get an education even into their 30s and now find themselves down on their luck. We should be giving these guys funds as well. No, see a line should be drawn at people who choose to be in a position to need aid. But people who can't help it? Part of living as a community is helping each other out. Everyone works together. These people who are physically/mentally disabled aren't completely unable to do work either. There definitely are jobs that can accommodate them. --- A Beach in Winter <cite>Ambience posted [p:914651238] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not.</quote> No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights.</quote> We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself.</quote> Even if they're more fortunate I think we should still be helping these guys out. Like people who were born into good families but chose not to work or get an education even into their 30s and now find themselves down on their luck. We should be giving these guys funds as well.</quote> No, see a line should be drawn at people who choose to be in a position to need aid. But people who can't help it? Part of living as a community is helping each other out. Everyone works together. These people who are physically/mentally disabled aren't completely unable to do work either. There definitely are jobs that can accommodate them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 12/24/18 2:58:34 PM #30:	PIITB415 posted... CirocObama posted... Case by case scenario. No. We aren't all Snowflake's No, he's right. Some people may have legit mental difficulties that prevent them from holding a job despite otherwise being physically capable of doing so. I agree that people like NEETs should get off their asses and get a job, though. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:914651245] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>PIITB415 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CirocObama posted...</cite> <quote>Case by case scenario.</quote> No. We aren't all Snowflake's</quote> No, he's right. Some people may have legit mental difficulties that prevent them from holding a job despite otherwise being physically capable of doing so. I agree that people like NEETs should get off their asses and get a job, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mareen 12/24/18 3:00:25 PM #31:	RoadsterUFO posted... Mareen posted... Not necessarily. Someone with a severe mental disability can be physically capable of working, yet still need aid. How is that my problem or anyone elses? Youre not charitable or noble for forcing others to subsidize an individual. So it's okay for someone who can't help themselves to die off then? --- Awz od fiis <cite>Mareen posted [p:914651328] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mareen posted...</cite> <quote>Not necessarily. Someone with a severe mental disability can be physically capable of working, yet still need aid.</quote> How is that my problem or anyone elses? Youre not charitable or noble for forcing others to subsidize an individual.</quote> So it's okay for someone who can't help themselves to die off then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 12/24/18 3:03:20 PM #32:	Ambience posted... REMercsChamp posted... Ambience posted... RoadsterUFO posted... REMercsChamp posted... Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not. No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights. We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself. Even if they're more fortunate I think we should still be helping these guys out. Like people who were born into good families but chose not to work or get an education even into their 30s and now find themselves down on their luck. We should be giving these guys funds as well. No, see a line should be drawn at people who choose to be in a position to need aid. But people who can't help it? Part of living as a community is helping each other out. Everyone works together. These people who are physically/mentally disabled aren't completely unable to do work either. There definitely are jobs that can accommodate them. The fucked up thing is that it's NOT people helping each other but every man for himself trying to step over people. This is why we need to expand this to people who choose not to work and want to just sit around and play video games or whatever. If we exclude them then we're just as bad as we are now. We aren't making progress. --- Come check out my community board for NEET discussions: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1467-neet-discussions <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:914651458] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not.</quote> No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights.</quote> We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself.</quote> Even if they're more fortunate I think we should still be helping these guys out. Like people who were born into good families but chose not to work or get an education even into their 30s and now find themselves down on their luck. We should be giving these guys funds as well.</quote> No, see a line should be drawn at people who choose to be in a position to need aid. But people who can't help it? Part of living as a community is helping each other out. Everyone works together. These people who are physically/mentally disabled aren't completely unable to do work either. There definitely are jobs that can accommodate them.</quote> The fucked up thing is that it's NOT people helping each other but every man for himself trying to step over people. This is why we need to expand this to people who choose not to work and want to just sit around and play video games or whatever. If we exclude them then we're just as bad as we are now. We aren't making progress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wronganswerfool 12/24/18 3:04:38 PM #33:	These people are completely unaware that mental disabilities are a thing. That's a yike I'm guessing TC voted for Trump <cite>wronganswerfool posted [p:914651518] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>These people are completely unaware that mental disabilities are a thing. That's a yike I'm guessing TC voted for Trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inferno Dive Dragoon 12/24/18 3:08:36 PM #35:	D Being physically able isn't enough to get hired for a lot of jobs, what will actually kill you is a lack of work experience/education/skills/connections, and that's assuming there's any jobs in your area. Case in point; There's nothing physically wrong with me, but I've never been hired for anything in my nearly 20 years of job searching. I've been dismissed as unqualified/undesired for literally everything, even Wal-Mart during the holiday season won't take me. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! <cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted [p:914651696] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote>D Being physically able isn't enough to get hired for a lot of jobs, what will actually kill you is a lack of work experience/education/skills/connections, and that's assuming there's any jobs in your area. Case in point; There's nothing physically wrong with me, but I've never been hired for anything in my nearly 20 years of job searching. I've been dismissed as unqualified/undesired for literally everything, even Wal-Mart during the holiday season won't take me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ambience 12/24/18 3:09:41 PM #36:	REMercsChamp posted... Ambience posted... REMercsChamp posted... Ambience posted... RoadsterUFO posted... REMercsChamp posted... Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not. No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights. We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself. Even if they're more fortunate I think we should still be helping these guys out. Like people who were born into good families but chose not to work or get an education even into their 30s and now find themselves down on their luck. We should be giving these guys funds as well. No, see a line should be drawn at people who choose to be in a position to need aid. But people who can't help it? Part of living as a community is helping each other out. Everyone works together. These people who are physically/mentally disabled aren't completely unable to do work either. There definitely are jobs that can accommodate them. The fucked up thing is that it's NOT people helping each other but every man for himself trying to step over people. This is why we need to expand this to people who choose not to work and want to just sit around and play video games or whatever. If we exclude them then we're just as bad as we are now. We aren't making progress. C'mon man, don't troll this. No man is an island, we're all in it together. Business wouldn't survive without customers, none of us on here would be very happy if we had to completely fend for ourselves. Since the first man made a fire and shared it with his buddy we've all been working together for the good of the community. Some members of the community can't contribute as much, and rightly, they won't live in luxury or have as much as their superiors. But no one who puts in effort should be allowed to get dragged behind. --- A Beach in Winter <cite>Ambience posted [p:914651749] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not.</quote> No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights.</quote> We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself.</quote> Even if they're more fortunate I think we should still be helping these guys out. Like people who were born into good families but chose not to work or get an education even into their 30s and now find themselves down on their luck. We should be giving these guys funds as well.</quote> No, see a line should be drawn at people who choose to be in a position to need aid. But people who can't help it? Part of living as a community is helping each other out. Everyone works together. These people who are physically/mentally disabled aren't completely unable to do work either. There definitely are jobs that can accommodate them.</quote> The fucked up thing is that it's NOT people helping each other but every man for himself trying to step over people. This is why we need to expand this to people who choose not to work and want to just sit around and play video games or whatever. If we exclude them then we're just as bad as we are now. We aren't making progress.</quote> C'mon man, don't troll this. No man is an island, we're all in it together. Business wouldn't survive without customers, none of us on here would be very happy if we had to completely fend for ourselves. Since the first man made a fire and shared it with his buddy we've all been working together for the good of the community. Some members of the community can't contribute as much, and rightly, they won't live in luxury or have as much as their superiors. But no one who puts in effort should be allowed to get dragged behind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/24/18 3:11:09 PM #37:	RoadsterUFO posted... It says a lot about an invidiuals sorry ass work ethic if theyre unemployed in the United States when the low/no-skilled immigrant with broken English (or zero English) can find employment over them. Illegal labor can evade the mandated wage floor. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:914651821] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote> It says a lot about an invidiuals sorry ass work ethic if theyre unemployed in the United States when the low/no-skilled immigrant with broken English (or zero English) can find employment over them.</quote> Illegal labor can evade the mandated wage floor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 12/24/18 3:11:38 PM #38:	Ambience posted... REMercsChamp posted... Ambience posted... REMercsChamp posted... Ambience posted... RoadsterUFO posted... REMercsChamp posted... Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not. No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights. We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself. Even if they're more fortunate I think we should still be helping these guys out. Like people who were born into good families but chose not to work or get an education even into their 30s and now find themselves down on their luck. We should be giving these guys funds as well. No, see a line should be drawn at people who choose to be in a position to need aid. But people who can't help it? Part of living as a community is helping each other out. Everyone works together. These people who are physically/mentally disabled aren't completely unable to do work either. There definitely are jobs that can accommodate them. The fucked up thing is that it's NOT people helping each other but every man for himself trying to step over people. This is why we need to expand this to people who choose not to work and want to just sit around and play video games or whatever. If we exclude them then we're just as bad as we are now. We aren't making progress. C'mon man, don't troll this. No man is an island, we're all in it together. Business wouldn't survive without customers, none of us on here would be very happy if we had to completely fend for ourselves. Since the first man made a fire and shared it with his buddy we've all been working together for the good of the community. Some members of the community can't contribute as much, and rightly, they won't live in luxury or have as much as their superiors. But no one who puts in effort should be allowed to get dragged behind. Why can't you see the truth --- Come check out my community board for NEET discussions: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1467-neet-discussions <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:914651845] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>Completely disagree I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not.</quote> No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights.</quote> We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself.</quote> Even if they're more fortunate I think we should still be helping these guys out. Like people who were born into good families but chose not to work or get an education even into their 30s and now find themselves down on their luck. We should be giving these guys funds as well.</quote> No, see a line should be drawn at people who choose to be in a position to need aid. But people who can't help it? Part of living as a community is helping each other out. Everyone works together. These people who are physically/mentally disabled aren't completely unable to do work either. There definitely are jobs that can accommodate them.</quote> The fucked up thing is that it's NOT people helping each other but every man for himself trying to step over people. This is why we need to expand this to people who choose not to work and want to just sit around and play video games or whatever. If we exclude them then we're just as bad as we are now. We aren't making progress.</quote> C'mon man, don't troll this. No man is an island, we're all in it together. Business wouldn't survive without customers, none of us on here would be very happy if we had to completely fend for ourselves. Since the first man made a fire and shared it with his buddy we've all been working together for the good of the community. Some members of the community can't contribute as much, and rightly, they won't live in luxury or have as much as their superiors. But no one who puts in effort should be allowed to get dragged behind.</quote> Why can't you see the truth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PIITB415 12/24/18 3:42:40 PM #39:	RoadsterUFO posted... Mareen posted... RoadsterUFO posted... Mareen posted... Not necessarily. Someone with a severe mental disability can be physically capable of working, yet still need aid. How is that my problem or anyone elses? Youre not charitable or noble for forcing others to subsidize an individual. So it's okay for someone who can't help themselves to die off then? Death comes to all. --- https://imgur.com/VawbBVM https://imgur.com/6Si4h <cite>PIITB415 posted [p:914653151] in C/D: If yo... [t:77330624]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mareen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mareen posted...</cite> <quote>Not necessarily. Someone with a severe mental disability can be physically capable of working, yet still need aid.</quote> How is that my problem or anyone elses? Youre not charitable or noble for forcing others to subsidize an individual.</quote> So it's okay for someone who can't help themselves to die off then?</quote> Death comes to all.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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