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frogman_295
12/22/18 10:06:47 AM
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geeze, does this piece of shit ever close his yapper.
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kingdrake2
12/22/18 10:11:41 AM
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nope. there's no off button and he happens to be the worst president on the republican side. i thought bush was bad in 2000 but he was the lesser evil.
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Antifar
12/22/18 10:12:34 AM
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Please do not use Trump as rehabilitation for George W Bush
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kingdrake2
12/22/18 10:13:39 AM
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Antifar posted...
Please do not use Trump as rehabilitation for George W Bush


i'll try not to because i respect you. but i have zero respect to that dick on the ps4 board (won't have his name spoken on here) he's a greenhorn.
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Sunhawk
12/22/18 10:15:42 AM
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I don't understand. What does this partial shutdown actually involve? The British press have barely covered it all (although, I assure you, we've got several of our own serious problems).

But, Bush was definitely better than Trump so far. I mean, Bush was stupid, but he cared about the US, and he did things profesionally, and could stick to an opinion for at least 24 hours. Trump is just dreadful. Probably the worst American president ever.

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andel
12/22/18 10:18:00 AM
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bush was awful and responsible for the reprehensible and evil Iraqi war but i honestly believe he was just dumb and easily manipulated by people like cheney and not willfully evil like trump
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SpudForce
12/22/18 11:40:20 AM
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I actually somewhat miss Bush, his administration actually started to improve once he started to sideline Cheney and the other ass clowns in his administration.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/22/18 12:15:45 PM
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SpudForce posted...
I actually somewhat miss Bush, his administration actually started to improve once he started to sideline Cheney and the other ass clowns in his administration.


My thoughts are a sort of combination of this and what andel said in the post prior.
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Dark_twisted
12/22/18 12:59:28 PM
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Just two weeks ago he'd say he would take full responsibility for a government shutdown.

What a flip-flopper.
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Herugrim
12/22/18 1:00:36 PM
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andel posted...
bush was awful and responsible for the reprehensible and evil Iraqi war but i honestly believe he was just dumb and easily manipulated by people like cheney and not willfully evil like trump

Yeah, Osama Bin-Laden and Saddam Hussein did nothing wrong, they and their followers were just peaceful spiritualists. They didn't murder thousands of innocent people, in their own countries and abroad. What a blow to modern civilization.Godnorgosh posted...
Ehh, Bush can fuck off. People like to caricature him as a puppet manipulated by Cheney, and while there may be some truth to that, he nevertheless signed the Patriot Act into law, opposed pro-LGBT legislation, supported "teach the controversy" bullshit, opposed embryonic stem cell research, disregarded the scientific consensus on global warming and suppressed evidence of it, slashed taxes to benefit the wealthy... The list goes on.

At some point if you are repeatedly "manipulated" into doing heinous things or supporting harmful policies, you become partially responsible for them.

That Trump is as shitty as he is is a reflection of Trump, not a vindication of Bush.

Yeah, republicans are evil. Not like they would cut welfare in half while signing more bailout bills for big businesses. Not like people on disability would lose their healthcare just to get it back when Trump was elected. Not like a democrat could be a racist that calls minorities who commit crimes "super criminals" and lump them in a basket with everyone they don't like.

For the reference I'm independent. I don't like Republicans, but Democrats are as manipulative and as stupid as they come.
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UnholyMudcrab
12/22/18 1:02:21 PM
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Have there been any opinion polls released? I can't imagine the public is going to side with Trump on this one
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spudger
12/22/18 1:20:04 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Have there been any opinion polls released? I can't imagine the public is going to side with Trump on this one
Certainly none the WH want
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Space_Man
12/22/18 1:20:51 PM
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Wait didn't he say he'd take the blame for the shut down? Why's he blaming the democrats
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VictimComplex
12/22/18 1:21:15 PM
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Space_Man posted...
Wait didn't he say he'd take the blame for the shut down? Why's he blaming the democrats

Because he's a fucking moron
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catboy0_0
12/22/18 1:23:00 PM
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andel posted...
bush was awful and responsible for the reprehensible and evil Iraqi war but i honestly believe he was just dumb and easily manipulated by people like cheney and not willfully evil like trump

that's weird, because it seemed like the opposite to me at first. Trump is just doing too many awful things that it doesn't matter if he's a puppet at this point, he's still evil
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Heineken14
12/22/18 1:24:31 PM
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I am for one shocked that a dumbass serial liar has turned around and lied about something like a dumbass!
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itachi15243
12/22/18 1:25:29 PM
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Space_Man posted...
Wait didn't he say he'd take the blame for the shut down? Why's he blaming the democrats


He learned that it's not a good thing to shut the government down, even if it's for Christmas.

So he blamed someone else the day after a weeks worth of credit taking.
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Heineken14
12/22/18 1:26:59 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
Space_Man posted...
Wait didn't he say he'd take the blame for the shut down? Why's he blaming the democrats


He learned that it's not a good thing to shut the government down, even if it's for Christmas.

So he blamed someone else the day after a weeks worth of credit taking.


Obviously not, since this is his second shutdown.
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UnholyMudcrab
12/22/18 1:28:35 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Space_Man posted...
Wait didn't he say he'd take the blame for the shut down? Why's he blaming the democrats


He learned that it's not a good thing to shut the government down, even if it's for Christmas.

So he blamed someone else the day after a weeks worth of credit taking.


Obviously not, since this is his second shutdown.

It's actually the third
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itachi15243
12/22/18 1:29:22 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Space_Man posted...
Wait didn't he say he'd take the blame for the shut down? Why's he blaming the democrats


He learned that it's not a good thing to shut the government down, even if it's for Christmas.

So he blamed someone else the day after a weeks worth of credit taking.


Obviously not, since this is his second shutdown.


Trump just has a forgetful memory. Unless reviewed by a doctor of his choice.
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AdviceMan
12/22/18 1:29:56 PM
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@Antifar @Godnorgosh

On a philosophical level, is there a difference between causing bad outcomes because you think they are good outcomes, and causing bad outcomes because you don't care if they are bad outcomes or not?
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Libpwner
12/22/18 1:30:26 PM
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Sounds fair. They literaly forgot to include wall funding in the budget, and forgot to return to DC to approve the new senate bill. We all know that liberalism is a mental disease, but do Democrats really have to take it out on the rest of the country during christmas? I guess so.
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creativerealms
12/22/18 1:32:03 PM
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Now if only proof existed that he says the shutdown is his and he is proud of it.
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catboy0_0
12/22/18 1:32:08 PM
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AdviceMan posted...
On a philosophical level, is there a difference between causing bad outcomes because you think they are good outcomes, and causing bad outcomes because you don't care if they are bad outcomes or not?

you didn't ask me, but at some point you have to take responsibility and reflect if you are causing bad outcomes, but the short answer is yes, there is a difference
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creativerealms
12/22/18 1:32:49 PM
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KLibpwner posted...
Sounds fair. They literaly forgot to include wall funding in the budget, and forgot to return to DC to approve the new senate bill. We all know that liberalism is a mental disease, but do Democrats really have to take it out on the rest of the country during christmas? I guess so.

They didn't forget. Everyone knows the wall is a terrible idea.
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UnholyMudcrab
12/22/18 1:34:03 PM
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creativerealms posted...
KLibpwner posted...
Sounds fair. They literaly forgot to include wall funding in the budget, and forgot to return to DC to approve the new senate bill. We all know that liberalism is a mental disease, but do Democrats really have to take it out on the rest of the country during christmas? I guess so.

They didn't forget. Everyone knows the wall is a terrible idea.

Look at the username
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AdviceMan
12/22/18 1:34:29 PM
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Yeah, I was just wondering. The fact that Bush was a terribad president is true no matter what Trump does. But he is compared almost fondly to Trump, because he doesn't, at least seem, to be a willfully bad president, where Trump seems to be amoral. Not trying to vindicate him, but I can see why comparing them side by side would lead to this reaction from the public.
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creativerealms
12/22/18 1:36:47 PM
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W. Bush was an idiot but he didn't think he was the smartest man in the world. Trump is an idiot and thinks he's the smartest man in the world.
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Space_Man
12/22/18 1:38:00 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
Heineken14 posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Space_Man posted...
Wait didn't he say he'd take the blame for the shut down? Why's he blaming the democrats


He learned that it's not a good thing to shut the government down, even if it's for Christmas.

So he blamed someone else the day after a weeks worth of credit taking.


Obviously not, since this is his second shutdown.


Trump just has a forgetful memory. Unless reviewed by a doctor of his choice.

Trumps memory is perfect, believe me. His memory is so good he even remembers things he didn't experience
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catboy0_0
12/22/18 1:38:12 PM
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AdviceMan posted...
Yeah, I was just wondering. The fact that Bush was a terribad president is true no matter what Trump does. But he is compared almost fondly to Trump, because he doesn't, at least seem, to be a willfully bad president, where Trump seems to be amoral. Not trying to vindicate him, but I can see why comparing them side by side would lead to this reaction from the public.

it could also be propaganda was stronger back then, and people didn't have access to the internet with more perspectives. you saw what TV/newspapers wanted you to see.
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AdviceMan
12/22/18 1:41:07 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
AdviceMan posted...
Yeah, I was just wondering. The fact that Bush was a terribad president is true no matter what Trump does. But he is compared almost fondly to Trump, because he doesn't, at least seem, to be a willfully bad president, where Trump seems to be amoral. Not trying to vindicate him, but I can see why comparing them side by side would lead to this reaction from the public.

it could also be propaganda was stronger back then, and people didn't have access to the internet with more perspectives. you saw what TV/newspapers wanted you to see.


That's why I used the words "seem". Charisma can go a long way, and W Bush, for all of his flaws, does have Charisma. I also knew MUCH less about politics back then.
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catboy0_0
12/22/18 1:42:29 PM
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I kind of feel bad for old people, they lived in a time where certain things were considered okay and are dealing with a younger generation that hates them for it.
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Heineken14
12/22/18 1:42:47 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Heineken14 posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Space_Man posted...
Wait didn't he say he'd take the blame for the shut down? Why's he blaming the democrats


He learned that it's not a good thing to shut the government down, even if it's for Christmas.

So he blamed someone else the day after a weeks worth of credit taking.


Obviously not, since this is his second shutdown.

It's actually the third


Yeah, didn't remember if that "second" one officially counted as a shutdown. Wasn't it only a few hours?
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Funkydog
12/22/18 1:43:26 PM
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I thought he was proud of this being called a Trump Shutdown? He really needs to make his mind up.
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Kim Kusanagi
12/22/18 5:12:08 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/22/18 5:22:48 PM
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Kim Kusanagi posted...
USER INFO: LIBPWNER

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He got modded for that it would appear.
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