Current Events > It's ridiculous how careful you have to be with satire/sarcasm online

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A good rule of thumb is "could this be construed as me being completely serious?"

If the answer is "Yes", don't post it. Or least try to make it a bit more obvious. For example instead of saying "Yeah, Donald Trump is great" you could say "Oh yeah, Donald Trump is GREAT >_>"

See?
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Emojis and Emoticons are key.
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It takes some wit to use sarcasm. As you can see, some CEmen arent the best at thinking
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well of course

you don't have the same visual or auditory clues that hint at sarcasm when you read plain text, it's not ridiculous at all
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I don't give a shit. If someone doesn't know I'm being sarcastic, it's on them not me.
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Yeah, it's truly absurd that people will take what you type at face value. What a world it is we live in.
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Blue_Inigo posted...

It takes some wit to use sarcasm. As you can see, some CEmen arent the best at thinking

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In response to fenderbender's topic? Yeah, "undetected sarcasm" wasn't the problem.
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During the 2016 election I made a joke about Trump to one of my friends.

She was raging about Trump, and I was just like, "He's gonna make America great again!"

She took it seriously and screeched at me for like 5 mins. I didn't bother correcting her or saying anything. Just let her rage over it. She still doesn't know otherwise, years later.
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C_Pain posted...

I don't give a shit. If someone doesn't know I'm being sarcastic, it's on them not me.

P much that. I just make a mental note to think less of that user and keep doing my thing.
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C_Pain posted...

I don't give a shit. If someone doesn't know I'm being sarcastic, it's on them not me.

I just double down on it and become that thing that I said for the rest of my life.
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I don't mind being misunderstood. I just want responses that humor me. The freedom of not really caring what people think of you. If you do then just hide behind alts like most do. If I get to the point where absolutely no one likes me for my weird moods and antics, Ill just burn the bridge :3

I can't help my sarcasm. It's a defense mechanism that stops me from taking dumb people serious.
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A lot of what I post is sarcastic or satire and people are usually able to tell that. You dont need to be that careful
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So much snowflakism and sensitive bum bums.

Thanks progressivism

fenderbender321 posted...

It's ridiculous to know that my post wouldn't have been modded if I had just stuck a simple ">_>" or a "/s" at the bottom of my post.

Imagine being on this site for at least like 5 years and still not understanding how the ToU is enforced.

Also imagine having to be careful because you don't know what you can get away with and what crosses the line.
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It is increasingly difficult to notice sarcasm with people having more and more exaggerated opinions.
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YookaLaylee posted...

A lot of what I post is sarcastic or satire and people are usually able to tell that. You dont need to be that careful

It is easier in person when you can show it in your voice tho. Some people are so ready to jump on others that they just perceive everything in whatever way they can get defensive about.
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cringe
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The sad reality is that what many of us would call sarcasm someone legitimately believes. So can be hard to tell the difference.
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Sarcasm isnt a security blanket to say whatever you want consequence free. Something being a joke doesnt just make it ok.

Talk shit, get hit
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

In response to fenderbender's topic? Yeah, "undetected sarcasm" wasn't the problem.

The problem is that people still don't have fenderbender on ignore.
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C_Pain posted...

I don't give a shit. If someone doesn't know I'm being sarcastic, it's on them not me.

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Blue_Inigo posted...

Sarcasm isnt a security blanket to say whatever you want consequence free. Something being a joke doesnt just make it ok.

Talk shit, get hit

So are you cool with those that dish it if they can take it? Im the type to give someone shit and if they flip it on me I laugh harder than I did at my own shit and give them props. I think that builds fun friendships.
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RaulJenkins posted...

well of course

you don't have the same visual or auditory clues that hint at sarcasm when you read plain text, it's not ridiculous at all

This

There's no vocal tone, facial expressions and hand gestures in text so obviously it's going to be harder to express sarcasm

It's quite literally on the person being sarcastic to make it obvious to the receiving party that they know they are being sarcastic. That's how it's always been. You can not care but don't be surprised that people judge you over what you say
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Thanks to Trump supporters, it's literally impossible to tell if something is satire or an actual opinion.
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I mean how have people NOT learned that sarcasm through straight up text is something you need to make obvious? Between internet and texting alone you'd think people by now would learn, yet here we are
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Cant stop the outrage culture from the left these days, sad

Remember when conservatives were the Bible thumpers, telling you what to do, how to think?

What the fuck happened?
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fenderbender321 posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

I mean how have people NOT learned that sarcasm through straight up text is something you need to make obvious? Between internet and texting alone you'd think people by now would learn, yet here we are

I agree with this, too. For example, one way to make it extremely obvious that you're being sarcastic about, oh, let's say you're posting something about building wall on the border. End it by saying "and that's just for the Canadian wall!". That will make it extremely clear to everyone that you're being sarcastic.

This is some next level butt hurt
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fenderbender321 posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

I mean how have people NOT learned that sarcasm through straight up text is something you need to make obvious? Between internet and texting alone you'd think people by now would learn, yet here we are

I agree with this, too. For example, one way to make it extremely obvious that you're being sarcastic about, oh, let's say you're posting something about building wall on the border. End it by saying "and that's just for the Canadian wall!". That will make it extremely clear to everyone that you're being sarcastic.

And yet someone almost certainly does think that.

Need to make it plainly obvious. Regardless though, offensive jokes shouldn't be posted here as the ToS won't allow it.

You should know this by now.
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Fenderbender Meltdown: The Sequel.
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Usually you can tell by context but I still tag my sarcasm because people be dumb, and I'm not subtle about my sarcasm
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fenderbender321 posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

I mean how have people NOT learned that sarcasm through straight up text is something you need to make obvious? Between internet and texting alone you'd think people by now would learn, yet here we are

I agree with this, too. For example, one way to make it extremely obvious that you're being sarcastic about, oh, let's say you're posting something about building wall on the border. End it by saying "and that's just for the Canadian wall!". That will make it extremely clear to everyone that you're being sarcastic.

I saw your post when you made it and no, it wasn't clear enough at all. Because with all the outrageous shit that is said anymore, you need to likewise make it clear as day that you're being sarcastic and not rely on people to pick up on your tone when they can't audibly hear you.

Hence the prevalence of emoji's and shit like /s or jk for like, the last 20 years or so. Come on man, this shit is easy
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College is supposed to be a place where you're exposed to differing beliefs and people who directly disagree with you. It's an important part of developing into a rational, educated person.

Safe spaces, banning speakers and speech limitations all run counter to what college is about.
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DarkRoast posted...

College is supposed to be a place where you're exposed to differing beliefs and people who directly disagree with you. It's an important part of developing into a rational, educated person.

Safe spaces, banning speakers and speech limitations all run counter to what college is about.

It's amazing how you people all parrot the same talking points, yet have the gall to call other people mindless drones with fake outrage.
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I got my one and only moderation (a warning) for what I thought was an obviously sarcastic post. I suppose I should have used an "/sarcasm" or something. That post was so completely over the top I was sure that no one would take it seriously.

Another time, I suggested to someone that they arrange their trash in their own front yard to spell out something to annoy their neighbors, and then burn it so that the message was burned into their grass for months. Obviously sarcasm, no moderation.

I guess it depends on the mod and their mood on a given day.
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fenderbender321 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

It's ridiculous to know that my post wouldn't have been modded if I had just stuck a simple ">_>" or a "/s" at the bottom of my post.

Imagine being on this site for at least like 5 years and still not understanding how the ToU is enforced.

How exactly is it enforced? It says not to post something that's offensive. What exactly is offensive about mocking the idea of a dangerous border wall setup that could possibly hurt people?

And make sure to start out your response like this "Mocking the idea of a dangerous border wall setup that could possibly hurt people is offensive because ____________________________________________"

It doesn't matter that you were mocking it. I was telling you that you are literally incorrect in stating that "/s and I would have been okay." That's false. You would have been moderated anyway. It says it in the ToU and in the dispute section. "Saying it was a joke or sarcasm doesn't make it not a violation" or something to that effect.

That little bit at the end of your post is cute btw. You're not paying for my time, so you're also not telling me what to do or how do it. That's something reserved for employers only.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

DarkRoast posted...

College is supposed to be a place where you're exposed to differing beliefs and people who directly disagree with you. It's an important part of developing into a rational, educated person.

Safe spaces, banning speakers and speech limitations all run counter to what college is about.

It's amazing how you people all parrot the same talking points, yet have the gall to call other people mindless drones with fake outrage.

"You people"?
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Not sure if serious.

DarkRoast posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

DarkRoast posted...

College is supposed to be a place where you're exposed to differing beliefs and people who directly disagree with you. It's an important part of developing into a rational, educated person.

Safe spaces, banning speakers and speech limitations all run counter to what college is about.

It's amazing how you people all parrot the same talking points, yet have the gall to call other people mindless drones with fake outrage.

"You people"?

Look at this fake outrage. Must be an SJW.
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