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Zerocide
12/18/18 10:15:43 AM
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Taken from reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comments/a6w2m7/the_atom_shops_prices_are_slowly_going_up_and/

Most of us agree that the pricing is out of hand in the atom shop. but this santa outfit set just dropped at $20.00. That's $20.00... 1/3 of the full game. Twice as much as most DLCs combined. I don't know how else to express it. Far Harbor took me like 2 months to complete alone, and i'm pretty sure I paid $20.00 for the entire Fallout 4 season pass (all DLCs). This santa outfit will be relevant for less than 2 weeks. COME ON BETHESDA! Fallout76 is already selling for $26.00 at some retailers!

I also mentioned when they listed the Emote pack automatically for "50% off" how shady that is. This set listed at "33% off".... call me crazy but i'd say it's not on sale if it was never full price!

If you ask me, SKINS should be like 400 or 500 ATOMS max.

CAMP decor should be like 200-300 ATOMS

EMOTES and ICONS should be 100-150

i'm thinking the max anything should be for one single item is maybe 700 ATOMS for some unique outfit or something.

When you get into $18 - $20 for an individual cosmetic item that's absurd. I honestly just hope no one buys it and they realize they need to adjust prices. (even though I know the youtubers will buy this stuff every time just so they can post an angry review and get their money back)

And I am fully aware that ATOMs can be earned in game.. but since there is a stall in ATOM collection pretty much after you hit LVL 40 or 50. i'd say it's safe to assume we all correlate ATOMS to currency.

**EDIT** Here is my response to all who say "just don't by it"

-honestly I'm not the type of person who ever spends real money on in game transactions. and I mean ever on any game. so I don't plan to on this either.. I just think that the pricing on these items is borderline offensive. And I can see the line trending upwards if enough people spend Atoms on this the next items will be 2500, then 3000, essentially charging 25 and 30 dollars for skins and chairs. Thus this thread is my opinion that the items are overpriced. And since people can ask Bethesda what they want and suggest community requested changes, I think they should know if we feel the ATOM shop is too expensive.


Bugthesda strikes again, people who continue to defend this company is amazing.
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Irony
12/18/18 10:17:50 AM
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They gotta make money from the people they tricked into buying the game possibly to fund lawyers for the lawsuits. Vyrulisse probably bought 5.
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StucklnMyPants
12/18/18 10:18:26 AM
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Lol Bethesda
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Were_Wyrm
12/18/18 10:18:45 AM
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All will be forgiven when we get Skyrim on smart watches.
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NurseRedHeart
12/18/18 10:20:18 AM
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Sad thing is, people buy these
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Zerocide
12/18/18 10:24:20 AM
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NurseRedHeart posted...
Sad thing is, people buy these

I wouldn't be surprised if they do, people were okay with buying a half assed game for 60 bucks so seeing them support this wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility.
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Muffinz0rz
12/18/18 10:25:59 AM
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Irony posted...
They gotta make money from the people they tricked into buying the game possibly to fund lawyers for the lawsuits. Vyrulisse probably bought 5.

@Vyrulisse , your thoughts?
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Ranting Nord
12/18/18 10:25:59 AM
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Remember horse armor?
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Thompson
12/18/18 10:28:51 AM
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NurseRedHeart posted...
Sad thing is, people buy these

I have a feeling that if the in-game store offered two cubic meters of uncontained air for 1000 atoms, someone would still buy it without a second thought.
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s0nicfan
12/18/18 10:29:04 AM
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RFUrZXc
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Zerocide
12/18/18 10:30:15 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
RFUrZXc

More reason why I have respect for CDPR.
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Vyrulisse
12/18/18 10:30:54 AM
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Irony posted...
They gotta make money from the people they tricked into buying the game possibly to fund lawyers for the lawsuits. Vyrulisse probably bought 5.

If you buy Atoms with real money you deserve to get fleeced.
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s0nicfan
12/18/18 10:31:10 AM
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Zerocide posted...
More reason why I have respect for CDPR.


And BTW, to get enough atoms to afford that armor you have to buy the $20 bundle, so technically you have to pay more to get the armor.
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Ryuko_Chan
12/18/18 10:32:56 AM
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arent atoms really easy to get

its weird to see people clog the boards with obsessive bitching about a game theyve never played
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voldothegr8
12/18/18 10:33:04 AM
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I don't know if I've ever witnessed such a train wreak of a game before. I'd like to say Bethesda has lost tons of good will with gamers this past month but everyone will go back to sniffing their jock when they finally show a 30 second trailer for TESVI.
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Vyrulisse
12/18/18 10:33:09 AM
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Ryuko_Chan posted...
arent atoms really easy to get

its weird to see people clog the boards with obsessive bitching about a game theyve never played

Extremely
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s0nicfan
12/18/18 10:33:49 AM
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Ryuko_Chan posted...
arent atoms really easy to get

its weird to see people clog the boards with obsessive bitching about a game theyve never played


Do you play the game?
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Ryuko_Chan
12/18/18 10:36:26 AM
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no and theres no gotcha moment to be had here, that doesnt contradict anything I said
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Vyrulisse
12/18/18 10:36:49 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Ryuko_Chan posted...
arent atoms really easy to get

its weird to see people clog the boards with obsessive bitching about a game theyve never played


Do you play the game?

I do and confirmed that yes, Atoms are extremely easy to farm.
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s0nicfan
12/18/18 10:38:14 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Ryuko_Chan posted...
arent atoms really easy to get

its weird to see people clog the boards with obsessive bitching about a game theyve never played


Do you play the game?

I do and confirmed that yes, Atoms are extremely easy to farm.


So how many hours do you think you'd have to play to get 1800?
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DevsBro
12/18/18 10:39:40 AM
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This would be acceptable if Bethesda thugs didn't come to your house, break down your door, rip your CC from your hand, credit themselves the total and update your game with the content.
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Vyrulisse
12/18/18 10:40:02 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Ryuko_Chan posted...
arent atoms really easy to get

its weird to see people clog the boards with obsessive bitching about a game theyve never played


Do you play the game?

I do and confirmed that yes, Atoms are extremely easy to farm.


So how many hours do you think you'd have to play to get 1800?

Hmm... I'd have to do the math. I haven't come up with an efficient farming pattern yet because I haven't needed to.

Daily and Weekly Challenges give them once you've exhausted the achievement rewards (I still have a lot of those). I've seen daily/weekly challenges give up to +40.
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s0nicfan
12/18/18 10:46:47 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Ryuko_Chan posted...
arent atoms really easy to get

its weird to see people clog the boards with obsessive bitching about a game theyve never played


Do you play the game?

I do and confirmed that yes, Atoms are extremely easy to farm.


So how many hours do you think you'd have to play to get 1800?

Hmm... I'd have to do the math. I haven't come up with an efficient farming pattern yet because I haven't needed to.

Daily and Weekly Challenges give them once you've exhausted the achievement rewards (I still have a lot of those). I've seen daily/weekly challenges give up to +40.


So if they give up to 40+, lets assume 40 on average. That's 45 challenges. How long does it take on average to complete one?
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Vyrulisse
12/18/18 10:49:01 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Ryuko_Chan posted...
arent atoms really easy to get

its weird to see people clog the boards with obsessive bitching about a game theyve never played


Do you play the game?

I do and confirmed that yes, Atoms are extremely easy to farm.


So how many hours do you think you'd have to play to get 1800?

Hmm... I'd have to do the math. I haven't come up with an efficient farming pattern yet because I haven't needed to.

Daily and Weekly Challenges give them once you've exhausted the achievement rewards (I still have a lot of those). I've seen daily/weekly challenges give up to +40.


So if they give up to 40+, lets assume 40 on average. That's 45 challenges. How long does it take on average to complete one?

A few minutes for some, others are more involved. They mostly revolve around events or killing enemies with certain weaponry. It's very easy just rather unengaging.
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gunplagirl
12/18/18 10:49:29 AM
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The easy daily ones are like... What, kill 76 enemies, kill 75/150 enemies of X type (ghouls, humanoids, robots) and iirc the 75 are 10 each and the 150 are weekly but like 20 each?
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s0nicfan
12/18/18 10:51:02 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Ryuko_Chan posted...
arent atoms really easy to get

its weird to see people clog the boards with obsessive bitching about a game theyve never played


Do you play the game?

I do and confirmed that yes, Atoms are extremely easy to farm.


So how many hours do you think you'd have to play to get 1800?

Hmm... I'd have to do the math. I haven't come up with an efficient farming pattern yet because I haven't needed to.

Daily and Weekly Challenges give them once you've exhausted the achievement rewards (I still have a lot of those). I've seen daily/weekly challenges give up to +40.


So if they give up to 40+, lets assume 40 on average. That's 45 challenges. How long does it take on average to complete one?

A few minutes for some, others are more involved. They mostly revolve around events or killing enemies with certain weaponry. It's very easy just rather unengaging.


So you can farm up the atoms with something like 10-20 hours of easy, unengaging challenges that you don't do because they're boring to buy a simple paint job for your armor... and that's supposed to be some kind of compelling counter-argument to "in-game items cost too much"?
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Vyrulisse
12/18/18 10:58:07 AM
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Yes because once you reach the point of needing to farm them that's all you'll have left to do anyway before new content next year. So if you continue to play the game you'll be doing them anyway.

Most of the stuff in the store never seems to leave so there's no rush. If you're impulsive and can't control yourself (which is what these companies count on) then that's a you problem.
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s0nicfan
12/18/18 10:59:38 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Yes because once you reach the point of needing to farm them that's all you'll have left to do anyway before new content next year. So if you continue to play the game you'll be doing them anyway.

Most of the stuff in the store never seems to leave so there's no rush. If you're impulsive and can't control yourself (which is what these companies count on) then that's a you problem.


So your argument is that the items don't cost too much because farming them up is meant to hold you over between actual content drops?
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Jaded_Dragon
12/18/18 11:00:11 AM
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Oh shit!

For a second I thought someone was forcing me to buy DLC I didn't want. Whew!
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Deadpool_18
12/18/18 11:00:57 AM
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Ive defended Bethesda in the past but I just cant now.
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Vyrulisse
12/18/18 11:01:48 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Yes because once you reach the point of needing to farm them that's all you'll have left to do anyway before new content next year. So if you continue to play the game you'll be doing them anyway.

Most of the stuff in the store never seems to leave so there's no rush. If you're impulsive and can't control yourself (which is what these companies count on) then that's a you problem.


So your argument is that the items don't cost too much because farming them up is meant to hold you over between actual content drops?

I'm saying they don't cost too much because with a little bit of effort and patience you can easily earn them for free just by playing the game. The grind isn't terrible and a lot of the challenges do fit into "normal" gameplay so it adds up naturally for the most part.

Like I said, if you're a little Veruca Salt then that's a you problem and deserve to get fleeced.
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s0nicfan
12/18/18 11:03:31 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Yes because once you reach the point of needing to farm them that's all you'll have left to do anyway before new content next year. So if you continue to play the game you'll be doing them anyway.

Most of the stuff in the store never seems to leave so there's no rush. If you're impulsive and can't control yourself (which is what these companies count on) then that's a you problem.


So your argument is that the items don't cost too much because farming them up is meant to hold you over between actual content drops?

I'm saying they don't cost too much because with a little bit of effort and patience you can easily earn them for free just by playing the game. The grind isn't terrible and a lot of the challenges do fit into "normal" gameplay so it adds up naturally for the most part.

Like I said, if you're a little Veruca Salt then that's a you problem and deserve to get fleeced.


and by a little bit of effort and patience you realize we're talking about 10-20 hours of what you admittedly call boring content, right?
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Cookie Bag
12/18/18 11:03:36 AM
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This is all around shitty but people acting like bethesda is holding a gun to your head to get their completely optional and extremely overpriced DLC are delusional lmao
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Deadpool_18
12/18/18 11:07:41 AM
#34:


Cookie Bag posted...
This is all around shitty but people acting like bethesda is holding a gun to your head to get their completely optional and extremely overpriced DLC are delusional lmao


I dont buy DLC unless it adds something to the story, like Old World Blues or Lookout Point. I havent bought the game yet, but this and the bag fiasco are putting me off.
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Agnostic420
12/18/18 11:13:29 AM
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If there is a game award for the biggest flop of the year, fallout 76 should win.

Its probably the most disappointing game Ive ever looked forward to. The beta bored me to absolute tears.
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NibeIungsnarf
12/18/18 11:15:08 AM
#36:


Cookie Bag posted...
This is all around shitty but people acting like bethesda is holding a gun to your head to get their completely optional and extremely overpriced DLC are delusional lmao

Is anyone saying that?

My impression is "look at Bethesda being a complete piece of shit" rather than "Bethesda is making us pay for a santa outfit!"
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s0nicfan
12/18/18 11:16:27 AM
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Agnostic420 posted...
If there is a game award for the biggest flop of the year, fallout 76 should win.

Its probably the most disappointing game Ive ever looked forward to. The beta bored me to absolute tears.


Star Citizens wins the awards this year and every year until the company collapses, but FO76 certainly gets a nomination.
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Zerocide
12/18/18 11:18:26 AM
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Agnostic420 posted...
If there is a game award for the biggest flop of the year, fallout 76 should win.

Its probably the most disappointing game Ive ever looked forward to. The beta bored me to absolute tears.

A flop worthy enough to surpass Superman 64 and Sonic 06.
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BigSLM1993
12/18/18 11:21:48 AM
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Doesn't the amt of Atoms you receive slow down as you level up?
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kingdrake2
12/18/18 11:25:10 AM
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the only thing we don't ever spend money on is cosmetic, trophy related DLC we would (long as it isn't too expensive).
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PhazonReborn
12/18/18 11:28:49 AM
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Bethesda is really doubling down on this trainwreck aren't they?
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AlabamaLove
12/18/18 11:34:05 AM
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Bethesda is done for me until I see starfield/elder scrolls gameplay
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Andrew21044
12/18/18 11:37:49 AM
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PhazonReborn posted...
Bethesda is really doubling down on this trainwreck aren't they?


It's the irradiated water they're drinking.
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Zerocide
12/18/18 11:41:28 AM
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AlabamaLove posted...
Bethesda is done for me until I see starfield/elder scrolls gameplay

The gameplay is gonna have to be a 10/10 for me to even be interested in them again.
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LightHawKnight
12/18/18 11:56:11 AM
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Are they trying to compete with EA in being the shittiest company?
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Zerocide
12/18/18 12:00:19 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Are they trying to compete with EA in being the shittiest company?

Looks that way.
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NibeIungsnarf
12/18/18 12:05:59 PM
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I might be giving EA too much credit, but I feel like they would not falsely advertise their collector's editions and tell people to eat shit when called out on it.
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s0nicfan
12/18/18 12:07:49 PM
#48:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
I might be giving EA too much credit, but I feel like they would not falsely advertise their collector's editions and tell people to eat shit when called out on it.


Although EA is also a pioneer of the "collector's edition that doesn't come with the actual game" bundles

https://www.ign.com/articles/2016/08/08/130-battlefield-1-collectors-edition-doesnt-come-with-the-game
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Zerocide
12/18/18 12:13:07 PM
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Bethesda went from AAA developer (mainly leeching off of NV success that Obsidian developed), to shit tier. Amazing!

This generation has really showed their flaws.
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