Current Events > Thank god. they nerfed the approaching challengers in Smash Bros Ultimate

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Conflict posted...

It didn't force me to 'try anyone new'

Good for you? Don't see how you sticking to a rut means that that wasn't their intention.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Conflict posted...

I don't really see how slugging it out for several hours is better, esp when you barely have anyone for the first half

Easy. You actually get the chance to use these fighters instead of rushing towards what you're familiar with.

World of Light actively discourages using multiple characters though. With spirits and the skill mode modifying your characters abilities, switching around means learning wacky new parameters for every character that don't exist in any mode, meaning the smoothest experience is to just stick to whoever you're already using because you're already adjusted to them not controlling normally.
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Conflict posted...

Because that's literally what anyone else will do. The moment you unlock someone you're familiar with, you're going to use them for the rest of the game. I'm not exactly seeing how it would accomplish otherwise

74 character and y'all ignore them? How is that fun? It's not.

Panthera posted...

World of Light actively discourages using multiple characters though. With spirits and the skill mode modifying your characters abilities, switching around means learning wacky new parameters for every character that don't exist in any mode, meaning the smoothest experience is to just stick to whoever you're already using because you're already adjusted to them not controlling normally.

GOOD! For something like Smash if it's not switching up then it gets boring!
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I switch between characters in WOL so there's variety personally. Also so it's interesting when I actually unlock more teammates.
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dave_is_slick posted...

GOOD! For something like Smash if it's not switching up then it gets boring!

So why is it good that the mode is designed to discourage switching it up? Especially since anything you learn in WoL doesn't transfer over to playing the actual game
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Panthera posted...

Especially since anything you learn in WoL doesn't transfer over to playing the actual game

Twice you've said that, twice I have no clue what you're talking about.
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I think the idea is to use spirits that compliment certain fighters.

Of course you could ignore that but you're potentially making it harder for yourself depending on the challenge.
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Darmik posted...

I think the idea is to use spirits that compliment certain fighters.

Of course you could ignore that but you're potentially making it harder for yourself depending on the challenge.

But then by doing that, wouldn't the skills you use to even stay in the fight carry over?
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dave_is_slick posted...

Darmik posted...

I think the idea is to use spirits that compliment certain fighters.

Of course you could ignore that but you're potentially making it harder for yourself depending on the challenge.

But then by doing that, wouldn't the skills you use to even stay in the fight carry over?

Oh nah I don't mean that. I mean against people saying the game encourages you to only use one character.

At the very least I think it encourages you to use different types of fighters thanks to the spirit types.
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Not everyone wants to learn 100 characters. I'm just going to try 3-4 of the cute girl characters and stick with one.
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relevant:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BrWUO_GnWqT/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=sjgkm7m4jfrh
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dave_is_slick posted...

Panthera posted...

Especially since anything you learn in WoL doesn't transfer over to playing the actual game

Twice you've said that, twice I have no clue what you're talking about.

Spirits and skills give you all kinds of odd properties like boosted jump height, extra jumps, super armor smash attacks, extra damage/knockback, knockback resistance...it's basically its own entirely separate thing. WoL is actually awful for getting used to a new character because you don't actually learn how they play in the rest of the game.
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Zero_Destroyer posted...

they're not stat boosted

you're just really bad at the game

False.
They do more damage and take less damage.

Actually tested this. Used a move that did 17% in normal play, was 15% in an unlock battle. Noticed their moves did a bit more damage than normal battles as well.

My friend, who is way, way better at the game than me, also noticed the handicap.
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Weezy_Tha_Don posted...

relevant:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BrWUO_GnWqT/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=sjgkm7m4jfrh

i love those guys

Personally I liked the struggle of unlocking characters. I don't think I tried more than 1-2 per char except for some reason, Wolf. Wolf gave me so much trouble for some reason lol, but the stage and match up is pretty bad for Shulk, who I used for most of the unlocks.

And yes the stats do feel boosted
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HylianFox posted...

wimps, I beat them all when they were still hard

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What was there to nerf? They fought like level 5s. Online would eat you up.
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Only the last 5 or so were remotely challenging IMO.

Mr. Game and Watch was a fucking bitch to get, second to last character I unlocked, and I had to fight him 3 different times cause the first 2 he one hit K.O.'d me by getting a 9 on his "random" attack IMMEDIATELY.

That was fucking garbage.
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Hmmm...
I was "upset" when Megaman and Palutena beat me like 3 or 4 times but I only had to rematch half of them like once.

I was scorned at the time, but looking back, is it bad to be challenged for once?
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M-Watcher posted...

Zero_Destroyer posted...

they're not stat boosted

you're just really bad at the game

False.
They do more damage and take less damage.

Actually tested this. Used a move that did 17% in normal play, was 15% in an unlock battle. Noticed their moves did a bit more damage than normal battles as well.

My friend, who is way, way better at the game than me, also noticed the handicap.

what moves

some moves differing damage depending on whether or not there's a full/short hop involved, for example
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rikasa posted...

why is it bad to lose a few times?

Because that would hurt little timmy's feelings and we cannot do that.

Seriously watch some younger kids play games, a good chunk of them cannot stand losing and will give up after 1 or 2 tries.

GasMonkey posted...

shitty patch notes. what was adjusted.

Welcome to Smash Bros Patch Notes. Strap in, they can only get more vague from here.
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A few of the challengers took 2 or 3 tries but theres no way they should have been made easier to beat imo.

At least I get the personal satisfaction of knowing I unlocked them all in hard mode.

Damn. I don't even have the game yet. Sucks that I won't get to experience it unpatched.
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im sorry im not a pro level gamer like the people who thought they were easy

i was too busy having sex with my girlfriend to train like you all. my bad.
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Conflict posted...

Maybe instead of masturbating you should get better

porque no los dos?
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_BlueMonk posted...

im sorry im not a pro level gamer like the people who thought they were easy

i was too busy having sex with my girlfriend to train like you all. my bad.

No you weren't

I got all of them before the nerf but there's no way little kids could beat them

_BlueMonk posted...

im sorry im not a pro level gamer like the people who thought they were easy

I hadn't played a smash game since 64. I'm as green as it gets.