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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 4:19:50 PM #102: |
Parentheses don't have to be solved first.
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polopili 12/11/18 4:21:27 PM #103: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
polopili posted...When you stick a number in front of a parentheses like that without an operand, you're supposed to treat it first after the inside of parentheses. You're supposed to make the parentheses disappear before doing the divison. 62(1+2) 62(3) 3(3) 9 makes you do the divisions while the parentheses are still there. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 4:23:13 PM #104: |
It literally doesn't matter what order you do the parentheses in so long as you treat everything inside uniform.
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polopili 12/11/18 4:25:15 PM #105: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
It literally doesn't matter what order you do the parentheses in so long as you treat everything inside uniform. Wrong. You're supposed to make them disappear, that what ''treating parentheses first'' means. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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markconigliaro 12/11/18 4:26:34 PM #106: |
polopili posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...polopili posted...When you stick a number in front of a parentheses like that without an operand, you're supposed to treat it first after the inside of parentheses. 62(1+2) 62*3 3*3 9 There, parenthesis are gone. x(y) is the exact same as x*y. It's just notation. Parenthesis in the order of operations says do whatever is INSIDE the parenthesis, when all that's inside the parenthesis is a single number 3, the parenthesis operation is done, time to move on. The 2 is not inside the parenthesis so you do that in the multiplication step. --- I am a juggler/prop manipulator/fire performer, here's my channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/markconigliaro ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 4:33:24 PM #107: |
polopili posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...It literally doesn't matter what order you do the parentheses in so long as you treat everything inside uniform. Do the math, you'll see I'm right. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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polopili 12/11/18 4:38:10 PM #108: |
markconigliaro posted...
polopili posted...Tyranthraxus posted...polopili posted...When you stick a number in front of a parentheses like that without an operand, you're supposed to treat it first after the inside of parentheses. This part is meant to be interpreted that it multiplies the parentheses, otherwise why not add a * in front? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/11/18 4:41:53 PM #109: |
polopili posted...
This part is meant to be interpreted that it multiplies the parentheses, otherwise why not add a * in front? It's shorthand. 3(3) and 3*3 are equivalent statements. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/11/18 4:42:13 PM #110: |
Great topic.
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markconigliaro 12/11/18 4:45:00 PM #111: |
polopili posted...
This part is meant to be interpreted that it multiplies the parentheses, otherwise why not add a * in front? Sure 62*(1+2) 62*3 3*3 9 These are just different ways to write the same thing. There is no interpreting anything, they're all exactly the same. As for why not add an *, because it does literally nothing but make the equation longer. Like I can write (1+4)+(5+2), but why? That's unnecessary padding to the equation, just write 1+4+5+2, same thing. --- I am a juggler/prop manipulator/fire performer, here's my channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/markconigliaro ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The-Apostle 12/11/18 4:59:52 PM #112: |
I got 9 just by looking at the problem. >_>
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UnholyMudcrab 12/11/18 5:00:39 PM #113: |
Alright, 100+ posts. You guys really can't help yourselves at all.
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Kineth 12/11/18 5:02:39 PM #114: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
polopili posted...This part is meant to be interpreted that it multiplies the parentheses, otherwise why not add a * in front? Yeah, well the quantity is 1/3 if you're gonna treat it as a separate number at that point, especially considering the original number you're trying to orphan it from is 1/2 and not simply 2. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 5:08:03 PM #115: |
Kineth posted...
well the quantity is 1/3 if you're gonna treat it as a separate number at that point This is the problem with the question posed. The division symbol doesn't inherently state whether order of operations applies, which means it could be 1/3 or it could be 3. So TC would need to clarify. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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polopili 12/11/18 5:30:06 PM #116: |
Although there are no conventions for a badly written formula like that, it is not commonly simply shorthand to *. Putting a number in front of a parentheses or a variable means you should treat it like multiplicative constant. Once you start doing more complex math, it is absolutely needed to avoid putting parentheses and brackets everywhere.
Let's say we replace 3 inside the parentheses with an x variable. You say 32x would result in (3x)/2 since not putting a * sign is the same as *? Just like a/bc does not result in (a/b)c. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 5:33:04 PM #117: |
polopili posted...
Just like a/bc does not result in (a/b)c. a/bc isn't necessarily a/(bc) --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/11/18 5:43:51 PM #118: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
Kineth posted...well the quantity is 1/3 if you're gonna treat it as a separate number at that point Rewrite all division as multiplication of reciprocal, rewrite all subtraction as addition of the negated value and you will always arrive at the right answer --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 5:45:44 PM #119: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...Kineth posted...well the quantity is 1/3 if you're gonna treat it as a separate number at that point You can make an argument for 9 or 1 being right. 9 would likely be accepted by majority, but this equation wouldn't fly in actual mathematics. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/11/18 5:55:00 PM #120: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...P4wn4g3 posted...Kineth posted...well the quantity is 1/3 if you're gonna treat it as a separate number at that point You are straight wrong. It's a valid algebraic equation and has only one answer -- 9 --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 5:56:25 PM #121: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...Tyranthraxus posted...P4wn4g3 posted...Kineth posted...well the quantity is 1/3 if you're gonna treat it as a separate number at that point Refer to Anteater's earlier points about the usage of the division symbol. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/11/18 5:57:36 PM #122: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...P4wn4g3 posted...Tyranthraxus posted...P4wn4g3 posted...Kineth posted...well the quantity is 1/3 if you're gonna treat it as a separate number at that point Refer to Wolfram Alpha --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 5:59:33 PM #123: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...Tyranthraxus posted...P4wn4g3 posted...Tyranthraxus posted...P4wn4g3 posted...Kineth posted...well the quantity is 1/3 if you're gonna treat it as a separate number at that point As I said, it would be the more widely accepted answer. It's what I argued earlier after all. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The-Apostle 12/11/18 6:00:12 PM #124: |
Anything other than 9 would be wrong on a test.
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Medussa 12/11/18 6:07:43 PM #125: |
The-Apostle posted...
Anything other than 9 would be wrong on a test. this would never appear on a test, because it's not real syntax. it's been engineered to get the exact argument this thread had provided. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/11/18 6:10:21 PM #126: |
Medussa posted...
The-Apostle posted...Anything other than 9 would be wrong on a test. It absolutely would appear on a test if it was testing your understanding of OOO --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 6:12:04 PM #127: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Medussa posted...The-Apostle posted...Anything other than 9 would be wrong on a test. No, division would be represented with / on a test. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yoshifan1 12/11/18 6:18:56 PM #128: |
62(1+2)= 9
Syntactically, it is identical to 6 / 2 x (1 + 2). Only operations within the parenthesis are part of the group. When multiply a number against a group in parenthesis, the multiplication sign can be omitted as it is implied. For example, 6 x 3, 6(3), 3(6), and (6)(3) are all the same syntactically. Then when all groups are solved the next step is exponents, left to right, then multiplication and division left to right with the two operations having the same priority, and finally addition and subtraction left to right with again the two operations having the same priority. --- Sandwiches are made with bread. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kinny100 12/11/18 6:20:01 PM #129: |
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KobeSystem 12/11/18 6:20:26 PM #130: |
KobeSystem posted...
Anyone who thinks it's not 9 should probably be wearing a waterproof wristwatch calculator at all times --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 12/11/18 6:22:40 PM #131: |
yoshifan1 posted...
Syntactically, it is identical to 6 / 2 x (1 + 2). Only if you take that as your convention. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/11/18 6:23:05 PM #132: |
I can see how people would accidentally get 1. I don't see how they're getting 7.
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mobile_jukester 12/11/18 6:24:16 PM #133: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
I can see how people would accidentally get 1. I don't see how they're getting 7. Youre on CE, bro. --- Let's go Red Sox! jukester ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 6:32:19 PM #134: |
Kinny100 posted...
7 people First solve this --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/11/18 6:35:05 PM #135: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
Kinny100 posted...7 people An equation with three variables has infinite solutions. You require 1 unique equation per variable to arrive at a single solution. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 6:37:41 PM #136: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
require 1 unique equation per variable to arrive at a single solution. there's a real answer to this. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Life Sympathy 12/11/18 6:37:55 PM #137: |
Uncaught TypeError: 2 is not a function at <anonymous>:1:4
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Medussa 12/11/18 6:38:56 PM #138: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...Kinny100 posted...7 people since it limits the variables to positive integers, it might have a unique solution (or be another troll question and not have one at all). but I don't think it can be solved mathematically, only brute-forced. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ohnoitschris 12/11/18 6:40:09 PM #139: |
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 6:40:21 PM #140: |
Medussa posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...P4wn4g3 posted...Kinny100 posted...7 people It can be. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 12/11/18 6:41:23 PM #141: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
It can be. i'll take your word for it. because if it'll take what I think it'll take, I don't wanna. that's nasty. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Squall28 12/11/18 6:44:01 PM #142: |
This damn topic is why America sucks at math. Order of operations is an arbitrary rule to keep people on the same page. That's it.
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 6:45:25 PM #143: |
Squall28 posted...
This damn topic is why America sucks at math. Order of operations is an arbitrary rule to keep people on the same page. That's it. technically all of math is arbitrary rules to keep people on the same page. that's the exact idea behind it. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kinny100 12/11/18 6:48:44 PM #144: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
Kinny100 posted...7 people go f yourself troll. this is a phd level problem. if we're limited to +integers, the answers are: apple = 15447680210874616 6441951315019919837485664325669565431700026 634898253202035277999 banana = 368751317941299998271 9781156522547482549297996897197099628313 7471637224634055579 pineapple = 43736126779286972 5786125260237139015281653755816161361862143799 3378423467772036 https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-find-the-positive-integer-solutions-to-frac-x-y+z-+-frac-y-z+x-+-frac-z-x+y-4/answer/Alon-Amit https://plus.google.com/+johncbaez999/posts/Pr8LgYYxvbM --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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zachflash 12/11/18 6:51:10 PM #145: |
I got 1. Would love to ask my math teachers in the past this question, since it's been so long, lol.
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P4wn4g3 12/11/18 6:51:28 PM #146: |
Kinny100 posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...Kinny100 posted...7 people y so salty --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kinny100 12/11/18 6:52:06 PM #147: |
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Anteaterking 12/11/18 6:52:50 PM #148: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
An equation with three variables has infinite solutions. You require 1 unique equation per variable to arrive at a single solution. Domain --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarqueeSeries 12/11/18 7:27:17 PM #149: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
(1+2) is not in the denominator by any indicated operator in this equation. I'm not sure why you are putting it there. Yeah it is. 2(1+3) is all one term, and it's the denominator --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FL81 12/11/18 7:39:53 PM #150: |
I'm actually having difficulty trying to figure out how anyone could possibly arrive at 7 as an answer here
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A_Good_Boy 12/11/18 7:44:04 PM #151: |
zachflash posted...
I got 1. Would love to ask my math teachers in the past this question, since it's been so long, lol. You didn't even copy the original problem down correctly ffs --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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