Current Events > What are your honest thoughts on incels?

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I think they've brainwashed themselves in the worst way possible. It's like if you took all the worst lies to convince yourself of and decided to torture yourself with it by making it your reality. In a way they are just cucking themselves pretty hard.
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Incels only exist on the Internet kinda like SJWs.
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I feel bad for them
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I'd have more sympathy if their problems weren't all self-inflicted.
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fuck them

Imagine being this pressed over some pussy.
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Reis posted...

fuck them

Blue_Dream87 posted...

I'd have more sympathy if their problems weren't all self-inflicted.

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Incels are people that refuse to play by the "rules" that society has dictated for dating. These "rules" are not fair to everyone. Instead of accepting that, and making small changes to better succeed, they create a false narrative (the Chad myth) as a scapegoat, and instead of putting in any actual work, they blame everything on everyone else. Because it's easier to "invent" a problem and point to that as the cause of their perceived deficit, than to self-assess and fix themselves.

This then becomes self-fulfilling prophecy. They expect failure, so they don't even try. When they do try, anything other than an instant result is complete failure.

By the current standard, I was considered a "Chad" during my active years. I went home alone ALOT. I got rejected at least 10 times for every girl I bedded. Probably more. I didn't break down crying when a girl said no, because there were 3.5 billion others to ask. She said no, that hurt, but the world isn't ending.

If I'm busy crying about someone turning me down, the next girl will see a crying little bitch, snot running down my face, whining about some shit that don't matter any way. Who the fuck is going to want that?

Incels, you create your own celibacy. You cry into your echo chambers, blame everyone else, and do nothing to fix yourself. No one is entitled to anything. Work for it. Just like the rest of us.
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I'd feel bad for them if it weren't for the virulent women-hating and apparent exploitability by various fringe groups.

It's like hate for hire. All you have to tell them is that they're putting some random woman in her place, and they'll throw themselves into whatever project you set in front of them.
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Just as bad as the soyboy betas tbqh.

Not a fan of the rampant misogyny and entitlement.
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I see
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Huh
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Reis posted...

fuck them

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I have sympathy for them.

Fact: men display themselves, women choose. Sexual marketplace is heavily biased in favor of women (the same way an employer wields power over applicants). Distribution of sex tells us that the top 20% of men are fucking 80% of women. Male ratings dictate that:

9-10/10: They fuck whoever they want
7-8/10: They get lucky often
5-6/10: Rarely have sex, women will settle with them after they hit 30 and their looks fade
Every man below 5/10: Unfuckable

You can sit the average woman in a chair in front of a monitor, flash the face of a man that goes away after 0.1 seconds, and the woman would have already decided if they would fuck him or not based on his chin, his proportions, physical markers that say "high T levels." Imagine you're a 5'4" manlet with a weak chin, you're insecure because of your appearance, your entire life is a brutal feedback loop of failing and failing because you've failed countless times before. It's absolutely fucking brutal and there's nothing you can do about it, especially true in this modern age where women can pull out their phone and swipe right on attractive men that are ready to fuck at the drop of a hat.

Society beats us over the head that strong, good men always get the girl, what happens when you can't attract any? When you're always rejected? You feel isolated, dejected, resentful. I don't fucking blame them.

And let me make this perfectly clear for anyone that will trying to counter argue against my claims: none of what I said was sexist, it is the true and current state of sexual dynamics today. I don't blame women for how they act, I don't even think it's evil or wrong, it's merely brutal in the way that life itself is and is brutal.

Some men are left behind through no fault of their own. Have some fucking sympathy.

I have no sympathy for them. Being delusional is one thing. Everyone probably deludes themselves to some degree at some point in their life. But using your delusions to fuel your animosity towards others(women) is despicable.
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i see ugly guys with beautiful women all day every single day. yall are creating your own problems.
get some confidence, be a friendly and interesting person, and girls will respond to a persons vibe and energy much more than their looks.
from my experience, men are much more shallow than women are.
quit being a whiny bitch and get laid
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SSJCAT posted...

i see ugly guys with beautiful women all day every single day. yall are creating your own problems.
get some confidence, be a friendly and interesting person, and girls will respond to a persons vibe and energy much more than their looks.
from my experience, men are much more shallow than women are.
quit being a whiny bitch and get laid

That's easy for sone people to do, sure. But others have tried and failed their whole lives, gotten nothing but rejection. How are those guys supposed to be confident?
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I don't really think about them until people mention them on the internet. I feel like a lot of them are okay people you just don't hear about them as much because they aren't as vocal about women hating.
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KogaSteelfang posted...

SSJCAT posted...

i see ugly guys with beautiful women all day every single day. yall are creating your own problems.
get some confidence, be a friendly and interesting person, and girls will respond to a persons vibe and energy much more than their looks.
from my experience, men are much more shallow than women are.
quit being a whiny bitch and get laid

That's easy for sone people to do, sure. But others have tried and failed their whole lives, gotten nothing but rejection. How are those guys supposed to be confident?

i would say it is your vibe that is turning people away. no one wants to be with a moper who just thinks why try when it always just leads to rejection. i mean you have to see that it is your attitude alone that keeps you from succeeding, not the women.
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KogaSteelfang posted...

SSJCAT posted...

i see ugly guys with beautiful women all day every single day. yall are creating your own problems.
get some confidence, be a friendly and interesting person, and girls will respond to a persons vibe and energy much more than their looks.
from my experience, men are much more shallow than women are.
quit being a whiny bitch and get laid

That's easy for sone people to do, sure. But others have tried and failed their whole lives, gotten nothing but rejection. How are those guys supposed to be confident?

Keep trying. Lots of incels get rejected a few times then give up. Even the hottest guys get rejected. Just keep trying. 10000 rejections and 1 success is still a success.
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SSJCAT posted...

KogaSteelfang posted...

SSJCAT posted...

i see ugly guys with beautiful women all day every single day. yall are creating your own problems.
get some confidence, be a friendly and interesting person, and girls will respond to a persons vibe and energy much more than their looks.
from my experience, men are much more shallow than women are.
quit being a whiny bitch and get laid

That's easy for sone people to do, sure. But others have tried and failed their whole lives, gotten nothing but rejection. How are those guys supposed to be confident?

i would say it is your vibe that is turning people away. no one wants to be with a moper who just thinks why try when it always just leads to rejection. i mean you have to see that it is your attitude alone that keeps you from succeeding, not the women.

I don't have this attitude in real life, the only place I have that I can talk about this stuff is here. So you guys get all the pent up frustrations that have been building up over the decades.

Also, I don't blame anyone but myself. But it still doesn't change the fact that even when I do try, it fails. I'm just not worth the effort, and they seem to know that. Then I see like 20 posts on here everyday about how easy it is for everyone else, or people like me being mocked/insulted. It's just incredibly frustrating.
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

KogaSteelfang posted...

SSJCAT posted...

i see ugly guys with beautiful women all day every single day. yall are creating your own problems.
get some confidence, be a friendly and interesting person, and girls will respond to a persons vibe and energy much more than their looks.
from my experience, men are much more shallow than women are.
quit being a whiny bitch and get laid

That's easy for sone people to do, sure. But others have tried and failed their whole lives, gotten nothing but rejection. How are those guys supposed to be confident?

Keep trying. Lots of incels get rejected a few times then give up. Even the hottest guys get rejected. Just keep trying. 10000 rejections and 1 success is still a success.

That's what I said before, that if I could just manage to find one person willing to be with me for who I am, that I could start improving my opinion of myself. But apparently that's selfish, and uncaring about that partner, and unhealthy to put my self esteem on someone else. Was told as long as I believe someone else could fix me, I don't deserve a chance. And honestly, I guess I don't.
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KogaSteelfang posted...

SSJCAT posted...

KogaSteelfang posted...

SSJCAT posted...

i see ugly guys with beautiful women all day every single day. yall are creating your own problems.
get some confidence, be a friendly and interesting person, and girls will respond to a persons vibe and energy much more than their looks.
from my experience, men are much more shallow than women are.
quit being a whiny bitch and get laid

That's easy for sone people to do, sure. But others have tried and failed their whole lives, gotten nothing but rejection. How are those guys supposed to be confident?

i would say it is your vibe that is turning people away. no one wants to be with a moper who just thinks why try when it always just leads to rejection. i mean you have to see that it is your attitude alone that keeps you from succeeding, not the women.

I don't have this attitude in real life, the only place I have that I can talk about this stuff is here. So you guys get all the pent up frustrations that have been building up over the decades.

Also, I don't blame anyone but myself. But it still doesn't change the fact that even when I do try, it fails. I'm just not worth the effort, and they seem to know that. Then I see like 20 posts on here everyday about how easy it is for everyone else, or people like me being mocked/insulted. It's just incredibly frustrating.

quit bringing yourself down man, shit.

you need to make some friends and find some things that make you happy.

if you ever wanna chat feel free to pm me. i know i might have seemed abrasive to you but i speak from love.
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Just for clarification: I don't consider everyone that is involuntarily celibate to be an incel. Incels are a loosely affiliated subculture of men that hold certain views as a result of their involuntary celibacy.
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I still don't even know what Incel truly is.
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SSJCAT posted...

i see ugly guys with beautiful women all day every single day. yall are creating your own problems.
get some confidence, be a friendly and interesting person, and girls will respond to a persons vibe and energy much more than their looks.
from my experience, men are much more shallow than women are.
quit being a whiny bitch and get laid

That is basically the bootstraps perspective. Stop whining about your problems, improve yourself, other people have done it so you can too. I dont have a problem with that. And its not because I dont recognize that life isnt fair and never will be, but more that it isnt anyone specifics fault and youre better off helping yourself, instead of waiting for someone else (e.g. the government) to do it for you. Just keep in mind that there are a lot of members here who absolutely loathe the bootstraps perspective. Theyd better not be applying it to this incel situation or it would make them a bunch of double standard jackasses.
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The only incels are people that physically can't have sex.

All of these guys that claim to be incels are volcels, because everything about how they act is voluntary. They choose to be shitheads, and they choose to make up and believe this "Chad" bullshit.
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hollow_shrine posted...

I'd feel bad for them if it weren't for the virulent women-hating and apparent exploitability by various fringe groups.

It's like hate for hire. All you have to tell them is that they're putting some random woman in her place, and they'll throw themselves into whatever project you set in front of them.

I feel similarly about militant feminists who thrive on angry anti-male echo chambers. They're often in the same boat in which their dating/relationship luck is in the crapper and they blame the opposite sex for not "manning up" or conforming to biased demands. If you go to any of their typical online haunts, you will see similar gender-discriminatory comments and tirades. It's just against boys and men instead.

In a sense, many angry radfems are basically the female equivalent of the male "incel".
They're just more inclined to doxxing and hate speech than rushing to threats of assault (outside of protests).

Both sides just seem like bitter after effects of widening divisive lines between the modern sexes thanks to pretentious politics and lack of mutual empathy.
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Veggeta X posted...

Incels only exist on the Internet kinda like SJWs.

I've seen my fair share IRL
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_PrincessZelda posted...

"Incels" are just extremely arrogant people whose arrogance & self-absorption has led to them believing everyone else is less than them, which has caused their mentally unstable brains to believe everyone else is against them, when it's really just themselves that are to blame. Their bitterness & overall negative attitude drives people away & further puts them deeper into that "woe is me everyone sucks but me" mindset.

how do we stop them from thinking that way though? obviously social rejection, mocking, and isolation has failed and they are even further entrenched in their beliefs
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Literally do anything else that would improve your lot in life. Anything. That's how even awful people end up with stuff they want. I'm aware that some people are stuck in situations where they cannot get any sort of help, but that's much rarer than people who don't look for options.
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