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A_Good_Boy
12/05/18 4:26:54 PM
#152:


StartedWithPS1 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
I was gonna feel sorry for him


You should.

Why should i?
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Trickfinger
12/05/18 4:29:22 PM
#153:


StartedWithPS1 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
I was gonna feel sorry for him


You should.

not
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averagejoel
12/05/18 4:31:19 PM
#154:


AltOmega posted...
Why should people who have no part of the internet politics community be subject to the same rules that those people make up?

you can't just divorce phrases like that from their context

A good analog that works in the reverse direction is the person who interrupted Bernie in that interview a some years ago; they were wearing a white t-shirt that said something to the effect of "sipping on white tears" while treating Mr. Sanders as someone whose opinion didn't matter because of his skin color. Never mind that Bernie was a huge supporter of the civil rights movement several decades ago when he lived through it.

I don't see how this is at all an analog

or, for that matter, an analogue

AltOmega posted...
At heart, this whole "white person who doesn't want to objectified and treated differently because of their skin color" thing is just another us vs them tactic that wannabe politicians on the internet use to divide people. I'm not a fan of it and you shouldn't be either.

I don't have any sympathy to spare for people who develop a persecution complex through consumption of fascist propaganda. miss me with that shit

edit: also, unless you address my previous points, I will assume that you concede them too
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AltOmega
12/05/18 4:33:47 PM
#155:


averagejoel posted...
I don't have any sympathy to spare for people who develop a persecution complex through consumption of fascist propaganda. miss me with that shit

Please stop using buzzwords and accusing others of "conceding" points to you because you can't critically read.
If you're not willing to have a reasonable discussion, then I'm not going to try.

Rimmer_Dall posted...
https://champlaincrossover.org/830/editorials/why-its-not-okay-to-be-white/

>_>

The issue I have with people like this (the same issue I had with a lot of political groups in college as well) is that they already have this sense of being a victim going on. Maybe I went to college too earlier for this but I never encountered people being bullied because there were "diverse" i.e. non-white and not straight; nor can I remember any public incidents of such mistreatment. That doesn't mean those things don't happen (because the world is a messed up place) but it also doesn't warrant the fear of having your rights removed at any moment, as the author of that article says.
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Collat
12/05/18 4:38:30 PM
#156:


The response to 'It's OK to be white' should simply be No shit.
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averagejoel
12/05/18 4:39:20 PM
#157:


AltOmega posted...
Please stop using buzzwords and accusing others of "conceding" points to you because you can't critically read.

I did not accuse you of conceding anything and did not use any buzzwords

AltOmega posted...
If you're not willing to have a reasonable discussion, then I'm not going to try.

I am willing to try to have a reasonable discussion. you are the one who has been unreasonable
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AltOmega
12/05/18 4:39:40 PM
#158:


@averagejoel
Facism is nothing but a buzzword in today's world and is the equivalent of Godwin's Law.
And yes, you did accuse me of not addressing your points (which was incorrect) and used that as a suggestion of conceding. Need I explain to you that the "use" of others is by definition unethical and thus unreasonable?

Collat posted...
The response to 'It's OK to be white' should simply be No shit.

Why not a response of "its okay to be any skin color"?
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StartedWithPS1
12/05/18 4:43:50 PM
#159:


Trickfinger posted...
StartedWithPS1 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
I was gonna feel sorry for him


You should.

not


Racist.
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Collat
12/05/18 4:45:56 PM
#161:


AltOmega posted...
Collat posted...
The response to 'It's OK to be white' should simply be No shit.

Why not a response of "its okay to be any skin color"?
The 'No shit' movement does not exclude any race or imply that any are invalid.

There are no shitty races. Just shitty people.
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averagejoel
12/05/18 4:48:00 PM
#162:


AltOmega posted...
Facism is nothing but a buzzword in today's world and is the equivalent of Godwin's Law.

objectively, 100% incorrect.

And yes, you did accuse me of not addressing your points (which was incorrect) and used that as a suggestion of conceding. Need I explain to you that the "use" of others is by definition unethical and thus unreasonable?

those are certainly all words.
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A_Good_Boy
12/05/18 4:59:08 PM
#163:


StartedWithPS1 posted...
Trickfinger posted...
StartedWithPS1 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
I was gonna feel sorry for him


You should.

not


Racist.

Yes, Patrick Little is a racist. Glad you finally learned how to read.
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/05/18 5:10:30 PM
#164:


@Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
"No one says it's not okay to be white!"
*attacks everyone that says, it is okay to be white*

Patrick Little is a scumbag but he shouldn't be victimized for exercising his 1st amendment rights.


what does being White mean to you? why is it okay? why do you feel some people may feel that it's not okay?

some White guy from Portland might have nuance in his views of Whiteness that differs from some White guy in Arizona, Florida and Great Britain. you have it in your sig and ran with your tail between your legs when I asked you directly last time.

are you unable to shed light on even your own views of Whiteness without feeling compelled to flee like a Chansey in the Safari Zone?
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Funbazooka
12/05/18 5:14:20 PM
#165:


Collat posted...
The response to 'It's OK to be white' should simply be No shit.

Yep.
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Duck-Butter
12/05/18 5:33:50 PM
#166:


white people are so tiresome with this crap
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EliteC
12/05/18 5:38:44 PM
#167:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
@Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
"No one says it's not okay to be white!"
*attacks everyone that says, it is okay to be white*

Patrick Little is a scumbag but he shouldn't be victimized for exercising his 1st amendment rights.


what does being White mean to you? why is it okay? why do you feel some people may feel that it's not okay?

some White guy from Portland might have nuance in his views of Whiteness that differs from some White guy in Arizona, Florida and Great Britain. you have it in your sig and ran with your tail between your legs when I asked you directly last time.

are you unable to shed light on even your own views of Whiteness without feeling compelled to flee like a Chansey in the Safari Zone?


Hahahahaha
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kayoticdreamz
12/05/18 5:50:09 PM
#168:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
"Trust us, it's sooo okay to be white that we'll attack you for suggesting that it's okay."

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
"No one says it's not okay to be white!"
*attacks everyone that says, it is okay to be white*


Yep, attacks like this basically prove the point white nationalists are making. The guy is literally walking downtown with duct tape over his mouth in a suite with a harmless sign and gets attacked.

The point from the alt right that "whites are under constant attack" is proven.

If this was a BLM sign, this attack would not happen. The white race is clearly committing suicide here as a white guy attacked him.
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apocalyptic_4
12/05/18 6:50:26 PM
#170:


kayoticdreamz posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
"Trust us, it's sooo okay to be white that we'll attack you for suggesting that it's okay."

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
"No one says it's not okay to be white!"
*attacks everyone that says, it is okay to be white*


Yep, attacks like this basically prove the point white nationalists are making. The guy is literally walking downtown with duct tape over his mouth in a suite with a harmless sign and gets attacked.

The point from the alt right that "whites are under constant attack" is proven.

If this was a BLM sign, this attack would not happen. The white race is clearly committing suicide here as a white guy attacked him.


This proves that guy and whoever supports that ridiculous victim complex is a idiot
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LightningAce11
12/05/18 6:52:02 PM
#171:


What annoys me is people like him kicking up a stink because for once in their life, something didn't go the way they want or they haven't been included in something. And that makes them feel the worst they have possibly ever felt.
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toyota
12/05/18 6:52:55 PM
#172:


Still not asking for it
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A_Good_Boy
12/05/18 6:53:28 PM
#173:


toyota posted...
Still not asking for it

Prove it
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toyota
12/05/18 6:55:03 PM
#174:


A_Good_Boy posted...
toyota posted...
Still not asking for it

Prove it


so you are saying he was asking for it? so if a chick wears revealing clothing you are saying she is asking for it when she gets cat called or worse?

smdfh
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/05/18 6:55:41 PM
#175:


toyota posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
toyota posted...
Still not asking for it

Prove it


so you are saying he was asking for it? so if a chick wears revealing clothing you are saying she is asking for it when she gets cat called or worse?

smdfh


you didn't prove it
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A_Good_Boy
12/05/18 6:55:47 PM
#176:


toyota posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
toyota posted...
Still not asking for it

Prove it


so you are saying he was asking for it? so if a chick wears revealing clothing you are saying she is asking for it when she gets cat called or worse?

smdfh

Swing and a miss there sport. You've got 2 more chances.
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averagejoel
12/05/18 7:31:57 PM
#177:


toyota posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
toyota posted...
Still not asking for it

Prove it


so you are saying he was asking for it? so if a chick wears revealing clothing you are saying she is asking for it when she gets cat called or worse?

smdfh

don't equate being a woman to being a nazi
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OctoPop
12/05/18 7:53:53 PM
#178:


Fair. Next. This "it's okay to be white" is a blatant dog whistle for peckerwoods disguised as a harmless quote
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Dragonblade01
12/05/18 8:22:21 PM
#179:


Look, if someone ever tells you that it's not ok to be white, then fuck them. But making a fuss about it like this is ignorant at absolute best.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/05/18 8:47:16 PM
#180:


averagejoel posted...
toyota posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
toyota posted...
Still not asking for it

Prove it


so you are saying he was asking for it? so if a chick wears revealing clothing you are saying she is asking for it when she gets cat called or worse?

smdfh

don't equate being a woman to being a nazi

Are you trying to say women can't be Nazis? That's kind of sexist, don't you think?
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DarkBuster22904
12/05/18 9:12:58 PM
#181:


The primal part of me says "play stupid games, win stupid prizes." Every bit of what this guy is and stands for revolts me, and admittedly it feels good to see petty crap like this happen to hin.

But the more sensible part of me acknowledges that this is objectively a bad move. Dumping coffee on him does nothing. Fuck, it does less than nothing, because the fact is, it DOES make the the left look bad. We can scream "he deserves it" till we're hoarse, but the fact is, responses like this have spiked in frequency in the last 5 years and... it's done nothing to "teach the alt right s lesson." The reality is, responses like this ARE making things worse, ARE making shitbags like this sympathetic figures, and ARE alienating the center, at a time when the center NEEDS to be won. You CANT give people like this a shred of ammo, because every bit you give will sure as shit be used against you. And it will work, whatever delusions of "these shitbags don't matter" you chant to yourself

We can tell that the people who dont cheer at this dont matter, but... they do. Come voting day, they do. It's a numbers game, and the reality is that doing shit like this doesnt make the left look good. It doesnt generate the numbers.

There comes a point where we have to recognize that what we want and what we feel isnt what makes us win. And no amount of self righteousness will ever, EVER change that.
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metralo
12/05/18 9:14:17 PM
#182:


OctoPop posted...
Fair. Next. This "it's okay to be white" is a blatant dog whistle for peckerwoods disguised as a harmless quote


yup.

wish they beat this dumb fuck into a coma.
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metralo
12/05/18 9:15:33 PM
#183:


DarkBuster22904 posted...
it DOES make the the left look bad.


conservatives -*literally white supremicists and nazis*

left - "hey fuck you guys"

centrists - "wow FUCK the left!"
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Dragonblade01
12/05/18 9:16:07 PM
#184:


metralo posted...
OctoPop posted...
Fair. Next. This "it's okay to be white" is a blatant dog whistle for peckerwoods disguised as a harmless quote


yup.

wish they beat this dumb fuck into a coma.

Well don't you sound stable.
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FartyMcFartface
12/05/18 9:16:36 PM
#185:


Coastal_elite posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
As I always say, Anarchys descent from menlightened centrist to straight up altright white nationalist has been equally fascinating and disturbing to watch


most centrists are simply far right people trying to masquerade as moderates


This is just a lie leftists tell themself when they encounter a centrist and can't use their usual "everyone who disagrees with me is an alt-rightist" resort.
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SauI_Goodman
12/05/18 9:16:57 PM
#186:


Both sides come off dumb. btw one day the person holding the sign is going to shoot/stab the other and claim self defense. And that'll be the end of that.
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DarkBuster22904
12/05/18 9:18:07 PM
#187:


metralo posted...
DarkBuster22904 posted...
it DOES make the the left look bad.


conservatives -*literally white supremicists and nazis*

left - "hey fuck you guys"

centrists - "wow FUCK the left!"

I have.never once accused anybody of being intelligent.

People are dumb. And the fact is, they WILL respond exactly like you described. All I'm saying is we should stop pretending people who legit think like that dont matter. Because it bites you in the ass.

I'm interested in winning, and to win, you need the center, stupid or not.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/05/18 9:18:40 PM
#188:


DarkBuster22904 posted...

Well I was about to say don't expect a well reasoned response that addresses your concerns and instead expect a glib troll to strawman and provide a dog shit analogy. . . but then metralo decided to post and I'm too late.
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metralo
12/05/18 9:20:36 PM
#189:


Dragonblade01 posted...
metralo posted...
OctoPop posted...
Fair. Next. This "it's okay to be white" is a blatant dog whistle for peckerwoods disguised as a harmless quote


yup.

wish they beat this dumb fuck into a coma.

Well don't you sound stable.


much more stable than someone who wants to create a white ethnostate, yup!

im glad people like you didnt exist in ww2 though :)
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metralo
12/05/18 9:21:13 PM
#190:


DarkBuster22904 posted...
metralo posted...
DarkBuster22904 posted...
it DOES make the the left look bad.


conservatives -*literally white supremicists and nazis*

left - "hey fuck you guys"

centrists - "wow FUCK the left!"

I have.never once accused anybody of being intelligent.

People are dumb. And the fact is, they WILL respond exactly like you described. All I'm saying is we should stop pretending people who legit think like that dont matter. Because it bites you in the ass.

I'm interested in winning, and to win, you need the center, stupid or not.


alright buddy, good luck with that. watch the alt right continue to grow because of you acting holier than thou.
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DarkBuster22904
12/05/18 9:22:49 PM
#191:


metralo posted...
DarkBuster22904 posted...
metralo posted...
DarkBuster22904 posted...
it DOES make the the left look bad.


conservatives -*literally white supremicists and nazis*

left - "hey fuck you guys"

centrists - "wow FUCK the left!"

I have.never once accused anybody of being intelligent.

People are dumb. And the fact is, they WILL respond exactly like you described. All I'm saying is we should stop pretending people who legit think like that dont matter. Because it bites you in the ass.

I'm interested in winning, and to win, you need the center, stupid or not.


alright buddy, good luck with that. watch the alt right continue to grow because of you acting holier than thou.

Agree to disagree, then. We tried your way in 2016. We lost.
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metralo
12/05/18 9:24:16 PM
#192:


fair enough. yknow what you're right

im sorry nazis. we are too mean to you. :( its all our fault
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/05/18 9:25:26 PM
#193:


metralo posted...
tch the alt right continue to grow because of you acting holier than thou.


They grow because people like you send them into their arms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AhGYo9TExU" data-time="

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Dragonblade01
12/05/18 9:25:28 PM
#194:


metralo posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
metralo posted...
OctoPop posted...
Fair. Next. This "it's okay to be white" is a blatant dog whistle for peckerwoods disguised as a harmless quote


yup.

wish they beat this dumb fuck into a coma.

Well don't you sound stable.


much more stable than someone who wants to create a white ethnostate, yup!

im glad people like you didnt exist in ww2 though :)

You wish dumbasses holding signs were beaten into a coma, so I'd say that's still up for debate.

And you wouldn't want someone who opposes nazis around during WW2? What a weird thing to say.
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refmon
12/05/18 9:27:41 PM
#195:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
"No one says it's not okay to be white!"
*attacks everyone that says, it is okay to be white*

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DarkBuster22904
12/05/18 9:28:14 PM
#196:


Surely you can recognize that it's a far cry from "maybe we shouldnt physically assault people in the streets" to "let's cowtow and be nice to the nazis"

It is, in fact, possible to publically, visibly, and viscerally condemn something without making yourself look bad by being the first person to bring it to blows.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/05/18 9:32:34 PM
#197:


DarkBuster22904 posted...
Surely you can recognize that it's a far cry from "maybe we shouldnt physically assault people in the streets" to "let's cowtow and be nice to the nazis"


This and every other topic on this type of violence show that no, they can't. 100% of the time you say, "violence is not acceptable" they'll respond with something like, "Oh? Your suppose smile and suck their dick?!"

It's been the same shit for 2 years now.
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FartyMcFartface
12/05/18 9:37:10 PM
#198:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
DarkBuster22904 posted...
Surely you can recognize that it's a far cry from "maybe we shouldnt physically assault people in the streets" to "let's cowtow and be nice to the nazis"


This and every other topic on this type of violence show that no, they can't. 100% of the time you say, "violence is not acceptable" they'll respond with something like, "Oh? Your suppose smile and suck their dick?!"

It's been the same shit for 2 years now.


When you subscribe to an extreme agenda that would no way stand up to scrutiny if properly debated, the only way you can possibly hope to grow it is by equating the slightest questioning with the polar opposite, so those who follow it or are being indoctrinated into it are never pushed to consider how valid the agenda may actually be.

It's how the far-left works. It's how the alt-right works. It's how conspiracy nut movements work. Even libertarianism, generally one of the least obnoxious not-very-well-thought-out movements, shows mild signs of it.
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TheMikh
12/05/18 9:37:38 PM
#199:


The progenitors of the "It's OK to be white" sign made it clear it was supposed to be posted anonymously, with nothing attached. The agenda was to rile up the "deconstruct whiteness" types and nothing more, but I suppose it was ripe for just that.

Patrick Little's reparations plan was amusing but he and other Neo Nazis really need to **** off.
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A_Good_Boy
12/05/18 10:01:43 PM
#200:


FartyMcFartface posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
As I always say, Anarchys descent from menlightened centrist to straight up altright white nationalist has been equally fascinating and disturbing to watch


most centrists are simply far right people trying to masquerade as moderates


This is just a lie leftists tell themself when they encounter a centrist and can't use their usual "everyone who disagrees with me is an alt-rightist" resort.

This is quite the odd hot take when you've got a video of a self avowed neo-nazi right in your fucking face. If anything centrists are stupid as shit if they can't identify tiki torch wielding, sieg heiling motherfuckers as nazis.
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Coastal_elite
12/05/18 10:17:24 PM
#201:


A_Good_Boy posted...
FartyMcFartface posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
As I always say, Anarchys descent from menlightened centrist to straight up altright white nationalist has been equally fascinating and disturbing to watch


most centrists are simply far right people trying to masquerade as moderates


This is just a lie leftists tell themself when they encounter a centrist and can't use their usual "everyone who disagrees with me is an alt-rightist" resort.

This is quite the odd hot take when you've got a video of a self avowed neo-nazi right in your fucking face. If anything centrists are stupid as shit if they can't identify tiki torch wielding, sieg heiling motherfuckers as nazis.


*claps*
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metralo
12/05/18 10:18:37 PM
#202:


centrists like to try to act like hitler wasn't a bad person either, just misunderstood and we need to show respect for the dead.

centrists are just as bad as the alt right.
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C_Pain
12/05/18 10:19:12 PM
#203:


why do people think its okay to assault people for saying offensive things
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