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tomcatobitrice
11/28/18 6:35:38 PM
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Wauwatosa Police Department stop a car because of color of occupants.
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ViewtifulGrave
11/28/18 6:38:38 PM
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Lol I could see this happening to me, but my grandma is only 80% white.
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11/28/18 6:39:36 PM
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VipaGTS
11/28/18 6:40:42 PM
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what the fuck...look how quickly he pulled his gun...if that dude even twitched his arm a little he would have been done jfc...
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Simon_Petrikov
11/28/18 6:42:57 PM
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Gun drawn or taser?

(Not directly questioning you, Vipa. Your post was edited as I was typing mine)
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King_Hellebuyck
11/28/18 6:43:24 PM
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Racist cops? How unusual!
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Bloodychess
11/28/18 6:43:56 PM
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Damn the floor is already messy in here
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CADE FOSTER
11/28/18 6:44:41 PM
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St0rmFury
11/28/18 6:46:09 PM
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Sigh...
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SquirrelyDan
11/28/18 6:47:21 PM
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Kitt posted...
Pigs gonna oink

They were given false information.
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Lost_All_Senses
11/28/18 6:48:06 PM
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So, the black witness probably doesn't exist right?
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CADE FOSTER
11/28/18 6:49:08 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
So, the black witness probably doesn't exist right?

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SquirrelyDan
11/28/18 6:50:04 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
Cops racial profiling no way

King_Hellebuyck posted...
Racist cops? How unusual!

Did you watch the video?
VipaGTS posted...
what the fuck...look how quickly he pulled his gun...if that dude even twitched his arm a little he would have been done jfc...

This was fucked up, though.
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QwelzaarKane
11/28/18 6:52:25 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
what the fuck...look how quickly he pulled his gun...if that dude even twitched his arm a little he would have been done jfc...


They did nothing wrong here. Read the description and watch the full video.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/28/18 6:53:44 PM
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Also fuck cops who deliberately move someone out of view of the dash cam.
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Malcrasternus
11/28/18 6:54:37 PM
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Doesn't matter to them. They'll just say the report was made up, despite no evidence.

Of course, this also relies on trusting the report fully, and it's not wise to fully trust the police, so there's that to consider.

Also is this another case of an old account being stolen? It's a ?Block with hardly any posts.
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SquirrelyDan
11/28/18 6:58:36 PM
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Malcrasternus posted...
Doesn't matter to them. They'll just say the report was made up, despite no evidence.

Of course, this also relies on trusting the report fully, and it's not wise to fully trust the police, so there's that to consider.

Also is this another case of an old account being stolen? It's a ?Block with hardly any posts.

Ok, did they do anything to hurt him at all? No? Then let's not get all up in arms about it. It lasted a few brief moments and everyone went on with their day.
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Zikten
11/28/18 7:01:28 PM
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I don't understand why they kept him in handcuffs even after they found out. also that kid looks like a total geek. no way is he a robber
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CADE FOSTER
11/28/18 7:02:26 PM
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If this kid had moved wrong they would have shot him he shouldnt have been questioned at all
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Malcrasternus
11/28/18 7:03:13 PM
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SquirrelyDan posted...

Ok, did they do anything to hurt him at all? No? Then let's not get all up in arms about it. It lasted a few brief moments and everyone went on with their day.


Dude straight up had a gun aimed at him. When a civilian does that to another during an altercation, that's aggravated assault since you're introducing a deadly weapon into the situation.
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QwelzaarKane
11/28/18 7:03:51 PM
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SquirrelyDan posted...
Ok, did they do anything to hurt him at all? No? Then let's not get all up in arms about it. It lasted a few brief moments and everyone went on with their day.


The cops weren't even aggressive, really. Like, shitty cops need to be called out but there's nothing to bitch about here as far as the cops are concerned.
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Zikten
11/28/18 7:04:53 PM
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QwelzaarKane posted...
but there's nothing to bitch about here


they should have uncuffed him right away. they found out it was his grandma and then keep him cuffed and interrogate him in the cop car.
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11/28/18 7:05:40 PM
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VipaGTS
11/28/18 7:08:37 PM
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if anything im more upset that he was even accused of this to begin with, not with the cops if they got misinformation....my concern with the cops is how quickly that gun was pulled. good on that dude for remaining calm. every time a civilian is killed by a cop im told "The cop had no choice! they had to be careful! this is what they're trained to do!" so excuse me for thinking that if that dude moved in the wrong way he'd be done....That shit needs to change ASAP...
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ScazarMeltex
11/28/18 7:09:28 PM
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Nope, the criminal justice system has no issue with systemic racism.
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SquirrelyDan
11/28/18 7:09:51 PM
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Malcrasternus posted...
SquirrelyDan posted...

Ok, did they do anything to hurt him at all? No? Then let's not get all up in arms about it. It lasted a few brief moments and everyone went on with their day.


Dude straight up had a gun aimed at him. When a civilian does that to another during an altercation, that's aggravated assault since you're introducing a deadly weapon into the situation.

They thought he was robbing the old ladies. I'd guess that would probably involve a weapon. The cop didn't even yell aggressively while giving him orders. Look, I get it, police harass people of color all the time, but I'm just not seeing it in this video. The female cop was even polite getting his info.
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Coastal_elite
11/28/18 7:11:59 PM
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SquirrelyDan posted...
Kitt posted...
Pigs gonna oink

They were given false information.


Then they apologize and move on.

Instead they questioned the kid trying to see if he'd mess up. "Is she sitting on the passenger side?". What if she was sitting on the back and he is nervous because HE MAY DIE and gets it wrong? BANG BANG BANG.

He got interrogated and he had to repeat himself loud (they were trying to annoy him), with the fear that if he comes off as too loud or aggressive he would get booked anyway. They even asked him random shit and even got his number and DOB, now he is in the system.
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spudger
11/28/18 7:12:42 PM
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fuck
pigs
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QwelzaarKane
11/28/18 7:13:29 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
anything im more upset that he was even accused of this to begin with, not with the cops if they got misinformation....my concern with the cops is how quickly that gun was pulled.


They were responding to a possible armed robbery. It was surprising to see the cop taking his gun out walking in front of the camera because it should have already been out. Being proactive isn't an inherently bad thing just because piece of shit cops use it as an excuse.
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SquirrelyDan
11/28/18 7:14:49 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
if anything im more upset that he was even accused of this to begin with, not with the cops if they got misinformation....my concern with the cops is how quickly that gun was pulled. good on that dude for remaining calm. every time a civilian is killed by a cop im told "The cop had no choice! they had to be careful! this is what they're trained to do!" so excuse me for thinking that if that dude moved in the wrong way he'd be done....That shit needs to change ASAP...

I agree with you 100% on this. I'm usually on the side of the victim in these situations, but I just don't think this is one of thoose actual times where the cops are harassing a black kid. They acted on bad info, but they found out the truth, let him go, and nobody got hurt.
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Coastal_elite
11/28/18 7:15:40 PM
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QwelzaarKane posted...
VipaGTS posted...
what the fuck...look how quickly he pulled his gun...if that dude even twitched his arm a little he would have been done jfc...


They did nothing wrong here. Read the description and watch the full video.


Yeah other than the typical "dance the hanky panky and if you don't dance it right I will put a bunch of holes in you" bullshit.

Just have the guy raise his hands and stay put. Instead they want him to turn around, walk backwards up to a point, etc. He doesn't walk backwards? BANG BANG BANG. He trips and falls? SUDDEN MOVEMENT! BANG BANG BANG!
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spudger
11/28/18 7:16:15 PM
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QwelzaarKane posted...
VipaGTS posted...
anything im more upset that he was even accused of this to begin with, not with the cops if they got misinformation....my concern with the cops is how quickly that gun was pulled.


They were responding to a possible armed robbery. It was surprising to see the cop taking his gun out walking in front of the camera because it should have already been out. Being proactive isn't an inherently bad thing just because piece of shit cops use it as an excuse.

thats what they all say before they become piece of shit cops and murder innocent black ppl
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PonyLivesMatter
11/28/18 7:16:29 PM
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It happens for real all too often though
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King_Hellebuyck
11/28/18 7:17:07 PM
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QwelzaarKane posted...
SquirrelyDan posted...
Ok, did they do anything to hurt him at all? No? Then let's not get all up in arms about it. It lasted a few brief moments and everyone went on with their day.


The cops weren't even aggressive, really. Like, shitty cops need to be called out but there's nothing to bitch about here as far as the cops are concerned.

Moving someone out of sight of the dash cam then pulling a gun on them is absolutely worth criticizing
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SquirrelyDan
11/28/18 7:18:15 PM
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Coastal_elite posted...
SquirrelyDan posted...
Kitt posted...
Pigs gonna oink

They were given false information.


Then they apologize and move on.

Instead they questioned the kid trying to see if he'd mess up. "Is she sitting on the passenger side?". What if she was sitting on the back and he is nervous because HE MAY DIE and gets it wrong? BANG BANG BANG.

He got interrogated and he had to repeat himself loud (they were trying to annoy him), with the fear that if he comes off as too loud or aggressive he would get booked anyway. They even asked him random shit and even got his number and DOB, now he is in the system.

I don't see it the same way you do. You're assuming things based on things that never happened in this case.
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Paper_Okami
11/28/18 7:18:50 PM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
Why are cops trained to fuck with non whites???


Cops and Klan go hand in hand
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SquirrelyDan
11/28/18 7:24:07 PM
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Coastal_elite posted...
QwelzaarKane posted...
VipaGTS posted...
what the fuck...look how quickly he pulled his gun...if that dude even twitched his arm a little he would have been done jfc...


They did nothing wrong here. Read the description and watch the full video.


Yeah other than the typical "dance the hanky panky and if you don't dance it right I will put a bunch of holes in you" bullshit.

Just have the guy raise his hands and stay put. Instead they want him to turn around, walk backwards up to a point, etc. He doesn't walk backwards? BANG BANG BANG. He trips and falls? SUDDEN MOVEMENT! BANG BANG BANG!

He actually didn't do everything perfectly and the cop repeated his instructions until the kid did. The dude even walked the wrong way at one point. Not every white cop is looking to kill a person of color.
King_Hellebuyck posted...
QwelzaarKane posted...
SquirrelyDan posted...
Ok, did they do anything to hurt him at all? No? Then let's not get all up in arms about it. It lasted a few brief moments and everyone went on with their day.


The cops weren't even aggressive, really. Like, shitty cops need to be called out but there's nothing to bitch about here as far as the cops are concerned.

Moving someone out of sight of the dash cam then pulling a gun on them is absolutely worth criticizing

I'm not arguing against criticizing the cops. I'm saying this wasn't an obvious case of racism as some want to claim.
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tomcatobitrice
11/28/18 7:25:38 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
what the fuck...look how quickly he pulled his gun...if that dude even twitched his arm a little he would have been done jfc...

Thats what happens all the time.
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Ving_Rhames
11/28/18 7:27:08 PM
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Malcrasternus
11/28/18 7:31:53 PM
#41:


tomcatobitrice posted...
Exactly.


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Hercik1
11/28/18 7:33:13 PM
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QwelzaarKane posted...
VipaGTS posted...
anything im more upset that he was even accused of this to begin with, not with the cops if they got misinformation....my concern with the cops is how quickly that gun was pulled.


They were responding to a possible armed robbery. It was surprising to see the cop taking his gun out walking in front of the camera because it should have already been out. Being proactive isn't an inherently bad thing just because piece of shit cops use it as an excuse.


At the point the gun was draw the suspect was following orders with his hands raised. What were they being proactive of? Also they never even claimed armed robbery just robbery so way to go adding things to make it sound worse.
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QwelzaarKane
11/28/18 7:34:16 PM
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Coastal_elite posted...
Yeah other than the typical "dance the hanky panky and if you don't dance it right I will put a bunch of holes in you" bullshit.


Except the kid had to be ordered multiples times for singular requests and the cops didn't even get an attitude about it. He was also a potentially armed suspect at that point. I don't know what's so difficult to understand about that part.
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tomcatobitrice
11/28/18 7:36:18 PM
#44:


Malcrasternus posted...
SquirrelyDan posted...

Ok, did they do anything to hurt him at all? No? Then let's not get all up in arms about it. It lasted a few brief moments and everyone went on with their day.


Dude straight up had a gun aimed at him. When a civilian does that to another during an altercation, that's aggravated assault since you're introducing a deadly weapon into the situation.

Exactly.
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QwelzaarKane
11/28/18 7:36:49 PM
#45:


Hercik1 posted...
At the point the gun was draw the suspect was following orders with his hands raised. What were they being proactive of?


He was still possibly armed at that point. Holster the cops gun and what's stopping the kid from going for his gun?
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VipaGTS
11/28/18 7:38:51 PM
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QwelzaarKane posted...
Hercik1 posted...
At the point the gun was draw the suspect was following orders with his hands raised. What were they being proactive of?


He was still possibly armed at that point. Holster the cops gun and what's stopping the kid from going for his gun?

and if the kid had moved incorrectly he'd be full of lead right now, like we've seen countless times...that needs to change...
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Hercik1
11/28/18 7:41:47 PM
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QwelzaarKane posted...
Hercik1 posted...
At the point the gun was draw the suspect was following orders with his hands raised. What were they being proactive of?


He was still possibly armed at that point. Holster the cops gun and what's stopping the kid from going for his gun?


Again why are you assuming he was armed? No one in the video claimed he had a gun or said he did. The witness said two black men were robbing an old lady according to the cop no gun was mentioned.
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QwelzaarKane
11/28/18 7:42:03 PM
#48:


I inherently distrust cops and y'all got me in here defending them. Moving the kid out of view of the dashcam is a valid complaint, but pick a better hill to die on and quit empowering the Blue/All Lives Matter people.

The cops here were less aggressive than any time I've been cuffed and/or put in the back of a car. And I'm white and wasn't considered possibly armed any of those times.
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QwelzaarKane
11/28/18 7:44:16 PM
#49:


Hercik1 posted...
QwelzaarKane posted...
Hercik1 posted...
At the point the gun was draw the suspect was following orders with his hands raised. What were they being proactive of?


He was still possibly armed at that point. Holster the cops gun and what's stopping the kid from going for his gun?


Again why are you assuming he was armed? No one in the video claimed he had a gun or said he did. The witness said two black men were robbing an old lady according to the cop no gun was mentioned.


Where am I assuming he was armed?
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_Rinku_
11/28/18 7:44:28 PM
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QwelzaarKane posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
Yeah other than the typical "dance the hanky panky and if you don't dance it right I will put a bunch of holes in you" bullshit.


Except the kid had to be ordered multiples times for singular requests and the cops didn't even get an attitude about it. He was also a potentially armed suspect at that point. I don't know what's so difficult to understand about that part.

Imagine you're an African-American young man, with two very irate cops shouting difficult orders at you with guns drawn? With the threat of getting gunned down in front of your grandma? You don't think you'd be a little confused or scared?

Get the fuck out of here with your pig apologist shit. The cops are fucking rotten.
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Hercik1
11/28/18 7:46:33 PM
#51:


QwelzaarKane posted...
Hercik1 posted...
QwelzaarKane posted...
Hercik1 posted...
At the point the gun was draw the suspect was following orders with his hands raised. What were they being proactive of?


He was still possibly armed at that point. Holster the cops gun and what's stopping the kid from going for his gun?


Again why are you assuming he was armed? No one in the video claimed he had a gun or said he did. The witness said two black men were robbing an old lady according to the cop no gun was mentioned.


Where am I assuming he was armed?


The bolded part. No one in the video said or claimed he was possibly armed. Yet you keep mentioning it for him and called it an armed robbery in a previous post. Its something you just made up.
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