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Error1355
11/26/18 2:54:19 PM
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oh jesus christ

Customer: Can I get an 'eco friendly' wifi router?

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Reis
11/26/18 2:55:02 PM
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smh your customers are out there getting radiated and all you care about is playing your Nintendo switch
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Alpha218
11/26/18 2:55:11 PM
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Did this customer happen to be the 2016 presidential candidate of the Green Party
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SauI_Goodman
11/26/18 2:55:36 PM
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You should have just answered the question with "yes, you can turn off wi-fi." Make the sale, man.
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Ilishe
11/26/18 2:56:55 PM
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Yes, sir, you can. By the by, could I interest you in this bridge I have for sale?
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Bio1590
11/26/18 2:57:29 PM
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Rika_Furude
11/26/18 2:58:26 PM
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Customer is king
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SocialistGamer
11/26/18 2:58:42 PM
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Shouldve responded with you are already radiated.
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ocelot51
11/26/18 3:01:11 PM
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Should have sold them a wireless router with a 5.2ghz band. It has a shorter effective range and therefore irradiates a smaller area. Ecological!
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Error1355
11/26/18 3:06:27 PM
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@Reis posted...
smh your customers are out there getting radiated and all you care about is playing your Nintendo switch

I'm a bad person.

@Alpha218 posted...
Did this customer happen to be the 2016 presidential candidate of the Green Party

It was a church that we supply internet to, or at least something religious. She introduced herself as "Sister [name]".

@Bio1590 posted...
How dumb are your customers

Some of them? 100%.

@Rika_Furude posted...
Customer is king

Go invent an 'eco friendly radiation free vegan' router and sell it to her then.

@SocialistGamer posted...
Shouldve responded with you are already radiated.

I told her that 4G cell phone signal is all over regardless if her router is plugged in or not, and that AM/FM radio waves also go through the air, and that cordless phones also use 2.4/5G just like wifi, so there's probably no difference in terms of total 'radiation' in the home with or without a router. She didn't seem to believe me.
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Error1355
11/26/18 3:08:00 PM
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Customer: When I stood next to the router I felt my body get energized and I felt unwell, then I walked further away and started to feel better. I feel like this router is unsafe.

I told her I can turn off the wifi broadcast for her if she wanted.

She declined as she needs wifi.
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Rexdragon125
11/26/18 3:08:18 PM
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It's non-ionizing radiation, there's nothing to worry about
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Alpha218
11/26/18 3:09:34 PM
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Error1355 posted...
Customer: When I stood next to the router I felt my body get energized and I felt unwell, then I walked further away and started to feel better. I feel like this router is unsafe.

I told her I can turn off the wifi broadcast for her if she wanted.

She declined as she needs wifi.

Just do nothing and tell her you turned off the problem
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VectorChaos
11/26/18 3:10:31 PM
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Error1355 posted...


@Rika_Furude posted...
Customer is king

Go invent an 'eco friendly radiation free vegan' router and sell it to her then.



Dibs.

BRB parting fools from their money
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Kineth
11/26/18 3:12:05 PM
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Shoulda told her to stop eating bananas while surfing the web to reduce the radiation she gets.
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P4wn4g3
11/26/18 3:20:11 PM
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Man, you really get the dipshits. Maybe it was a prank.
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CableZL
11/26/18 3:21:20 PM
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I talked to someone who had similar concerns when I did tech support. No resolution was made.
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spudger
11/26/18 3:22:29 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
How dumb are your customers

Your. XD
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monkmith
11/26/18 3:24:10 PM
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at the end of the call i hope you reminded them to unplug all their appliances to prevent the radon gas...
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Mystery_Mission
11/26/18 3:31:28 PM
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spudger posted...
Bio1590 posted...
How dumb are your customers

Your. XD

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mario2000
11/26/18 3:52:09 PM
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i wonder how many of these people worried about wifi radiation are obese or smokers
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powerman1426
11/26/18 3:57:44 PM
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SuperShake666
11/26/18 4:10:23 PM
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Ban dihydrogen monoxide, everyone it's come in contact with dies.
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Error1355
11/26/18 4:17:36 PM
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She had called in now 4 times since I answered her call asking more questions about her worry on the 'dangerous radiation'.

This is what insanity looks like guys.
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Kineth
11/26/18 4:18:03 PM
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Shoulda gone with the banana in the tail pipe d00d.
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Tappor
11/26/18 4:21:37 PM
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Just tell her that the internet now flows through her freely
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solosnake
11/26/18 4:24:52 PM
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https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/wifi-radiation/
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ohnoitschris
11/26/18 4:29:47 PM
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Can you arrogant lads please explain to people who believe wi-fi harms you the science behind why it's safe rather than acting like jerks about it

Wi-Fi is safe, because it falls here, on the electromagnetic spectrum:

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It's on the 2.4 & 5GHZ spectrums, which is relatively low in the grand scheme of the universe. It's safer than direct sunlight, believe it or not. Have you ever had a sunburn? That's your skin literally getting irradiated by the sun. If Wi-Fi were tuned up to the same strength as you feel while outside on a sunny day, you would start to get sunburns from your router. That's pretty cyberpunk, actually.

How many X-rays have you ever had taken? X-rays aren't particularly safe when exposed for a while, but when an X-ray photo is taken of your body, you're momentarily bombarded with radiation in the 30 petahertz-30 exahertz range. Fuck, that's high. These are all SI units, just like hard drive storage, so imagine the difference between dealing with a file that's anywhere from 2.4gb to 5gb, and compare that to the nightmare size of a 30pb-30eb file. You don't even see "pb" or "eb" commonly used, because they're fucking enormous. A petabyte is one MILLION gigabytes, and an exabyte is one BILLION gigabytes. Fuck.

So, the differences are astronomical. And if you were literally sensitive enough to radiation that you couldn't handle the 2.4ghz and 5ghz frequency bands, you'd have to be placed in a dark bunker where no visible light could penetrate, effectively making you blind. You could listen to a radio, without any lighting at all, and that's it. Even reading a book would require some kind of visible light source, which would be a no-no. What a miserable life.

So, yeah, that's fun science for you. Print this post out and show it to people and I guess erase all my "fucks" if need be
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CableZL
11/26/18 4:31:34 PM
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ohnoitschris posted...
Can you arrogant lads please explain to people who believe wi-fi harms you the science behind why it's safe rather than acting like jerks about it

Wi-Fi is safe, because it falls here, on the electromagnetic spectrum:

9f9Jpdz

It's on the 2.4 & 5GHZ spectrums, which is relatively low in the grand scheme of the universe. It's safer than direct sunlight, believe it or not. Have you ever had a sunburn? That's your skin literally getting irradiated by the sun. If Wi-Fi were tuned up to the same strength as you feel while outside on a sunny day, you would start to get sunburns from your router. That's pretty cyberpunk, actually.

How many X-rays have you ever had taken? X-rays aren't particularly safe when exposed for a while, but when an X-ray photo is taken of your body, you're momentarily bombarded with radiation in the 30 petahertz-30 exahertz range. Fuck, that's high. These are all SI units, just like hard drive storage, so imagine the difference between dealing with a file that's anywhere from 2.4gb to 5gb, and compare that to the nightmare size of a 30pb-30eb file. You don't even see "pb" or "eb" commonly used, because they're fucking enormous. A petabyte is one MILLION gigabytes, and an exabyte is one BILLION gigabytes. Fuck.

So, the differences are astronomical. And if you were literally sensitive enough to radiation that you couldn't handle the 2.4ghz and 5ghz frequency bands, you'd have to be placed in a dark bunker where no visible light could penetrate, effectively making you blind. You could listen to a radio, without any lighting at all, and that's it. Even reading a book would require some kind of visible light source, which would be a no-no. What a miserable life.

So, yeah, that's fun science for you. Print this post out and show it to people and I guess erase all my "fucks" if need be


1) The odds of running into someone who thinks this IRL are slim to none.
2) The odds of running into said person who thinks that and them understanding that chart and explanation are even slimmer, by comparison.
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ohnoitschris
11/26/18 4:39:37 PM
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CableZL posted...
1) The odds of running into someone who thinks this IRL are slim to none.
2) The odds of running into said person who thinks that and them understanding that chart and explanation are even slimmer, by comparison.


My dad was reading stuff about it and questioned it at one point, which rocketed me into a whole fun day of looking up stuff about it and I got to teach him and he understood it and all was well

The key is to make it easy to grasp. Most people don't know that sunburns are literally just your skin getting irradiated, and that's interesting. And since it does deal with the electromagnetic spectrum, it IS possible to get sunburned and irradiated and end up with cancer from a router.. if you managed to make the oscillators inside start vibrating at inconceivably fast speeds. Which would just make the crystal inside shatter and explode, but for a few glorious picoseconds, you'd have a truly radioactive router.

So you're giving your audience the truth there, and confirming their beliefs, but it's an unrealistic scenario. Plus, all your things connected to wi-fi would have to have their receivers upgraded to the same insane speeds, and all you'd end up with is a super dangerous environment, and an abysmal range, due to higher frequencies not being able to travel as far as lower.
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Akagami_Shanks
11/26/18 4:42:22 PM
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tbh there is a rare condition where some people can't be around internet signals. Forgot what it's called but some lady had it medically diagnosed
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Space_Man
11/26/18 4:43:20 PM
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hopefully she never learns that she emits radiation just by existing..
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Rika_Furude
11/26/18 4:44:22 PM
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ohnoitschris posted...
CableZL posted...
1) The odds of running into someone who thinks this IRL are slim to none.
2) The odds of running into said person who thinks that and them understanding that chart and explanation are even slimmer, by comparison.


My dad was reading stuff about it and questioned it at one point, which rocketed me into a whole fun day of looking up stuff about it and I got to teach him and he understood it and all was well

The key is to make it easy to grasp. Most people don't know that sunburns are literally just your skin getting irradiated, and that's interesting. And since it does deal with the electromagnetic spectrum, it IS possible to get sunburned and irradiated and end up with cancer from a router.. if you managed to make the oscillators inside start vibrating at inconceivably fast speeds. Which would just make the crystal inside shatter and explode, but for a few glorious picoseconds, you'd have a truly radioactive router.

So you're giving your audience the truth there, and confirming their beliefs, but it's an unrealistic scenario. Plus, all your things connected to wi-fi would have to have their receivers upgraded to the same insane speeds, and all you'd end up with is a super dangerous environment, and an abysmal range, due to higher frequencies not being able to travel as far as lower.

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Alpha218
11/26/18 4:46:06 PM
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ohnoitschris posted...
CableZL posted...
1) The odds of running into someone who thinks this IRL are slim to none.
2) The odds of running into said person who thinks that and them understanding that chart and explanation are even slimmer, by comparison.


My dad was reading stuff about it and questioned it at one point, which rocketed me into a whole fun day of looking up stuff about it and I got to teach him and he understood it and all was well

The key is to make it easy to grasp. Most people don't know that sunburns are literally just your skin getting irradiated, and that's interesting. And since it does deal with the electromagnetic spectrum, it IS possible to get sunburned and irradiated and end up with cancer from a router.. if you managed to make the oscillators inside start vibrating at inconceivably fast speeds. Which would just make the crystal inside shatter and explode, but for a few glorious picoseconds, you'd have a truly radioactive router.

So you're giving your audience the truth there, and confirming their beliefs, but it's an unrealistic scenario. Plus, all your things connected to wi-fi would have to have their receivers upgraded to the same insane speeds, and all you'd end up with is a super dangerous environment, and an abysmal range, due to higher frequencies not being able to travel as far as lower.

Okay, but your dad is probably a much more reasonable person compared to a woman who calls a telecoms tech support rep 4 times in a day angrily demanding to turn off the wi-fi waves
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Questionmarktarius
11/26/18 4:57:56 PM
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ohnoitschris posted...
So you're giving your audience the truth there, and confirming their beliefs, but it's an unrealistic scenario. Plus, all your things connected to wi-fi would have to have their receivers upgraded to the same insane speeds, and all you'd end up with is a super dangerous environment, and an abysmal range, due to higher frequencies not being able to travel as far as lower.

What would the throughput be on a gamma-range router, though?
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P4wn4g3
11/26/18 6:18:08 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
tbh there is a rare condition where some people can't be around internet signals. Forgot what it's called but some lady had it medically diagnosed

Schizophrenia.
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Error1355
11/27/18 12:42:05 PM
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I can't believe the insanity of some people.
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Kineth
11/27/18 5:12:32 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
tbh there is a rare condition where some people can't be around internet signals. Forgot what it's called but some lady had it medically diagnosed

Schizophrenia.


Wi-Fibrosis.
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Cheater87
11/27/18 5:17:03 PM
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bover_87
11/27/18 5:18:25 PM
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@ohnoitschris the problem with that idea is that most of the people who believe things like this wouldn't understand the science no matter how you explain it, to say nothing of the ones who think science is a sin/fake/etc.
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ohnoitschris
11/27/18 6:40:51 PM
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bover_87 posted...
@ohnoitschris the problem with that idea is that most of the people who believe things like this wouldn't understand the science no matter how you explain it


From what I've seen, a lot of frustrations people have with science and mathematics is that it's just never been explained to them in a solid, tangible way. A lot of people have trouble grasping arbitrary concepts, and their brains just kind of shut off when someone explains a concept poorly. That's why I centralized my explanation around the concept of sunburns, and what they are: the vibration of matter, like photons and air molecules, pushed like a domino effect all the way from the Sun itself, straight into your own skin, at a gentle but very very fast vibration, which burns you. This is happening all the time from all sorts of things around you, but you can withstand all of it. Except for when you get sunburned.

Sunburns are the result of teeny tiny little bits of the sun attacking you incessantly while vibrating like a billion teeny tiny dildos.

Plus, it's pretty cool to think about how you're constantly being bombarded with objects (photons) that are so small, you can't see them without a ridiculous microscope, and even the act of looking at them changes their original state due to needing to throw matter at them just to observe them.

Anyway, run with those concepts and hopefully you'll get an "Ah!" from your audience, and they'll learn a neat cool fact and you'll both be happier with a bit more understanding of the universe around you.

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to say nothing of the ones who think science is a sin/fake/etc.


Ohhh boy. That's one that pisses me off greatly. Science SHOULDN'T be affected by human emotions whatsoever. Far too many people treat science like a religion to never be questioned or even fucking improved upon (just like a religion), as the fundamental core of science itself is that it's our current best understanding of the universe. Belief in magic and miracles is technically science, just very obsolete science that's found to have no use in the modern day. It's interesting to look back upon, though.

People who think science is a sin/fake/etc. are more than likely just taking a side against those who do treat it like it's an unquestionable religion. But that's humanity for you, millions of years of evolving and growing and living in tribes, and we can't just shed our instincts to pick a tribe overnight. Hell, we do it with everything. Android or iPhone? Console or PC? Miles or Kilometers? And the fucking world of sports rivalries, my God. Talk about a fucking thing that matters to absolutely nobody outside of those two towns. Have you ever heard about the bitter rivalry of University of Louisville vs. University of Kentucky college basketball? Of course you haven't, unless you specifically live in Kentucky. But it's everything to a lot of people living there. One person I know has a signed basketball from some athlete on their mantle, like it's the most valuable thing they own. No idea who it is, couldn't care less, but it means the world to them.

Have you even heard about one of the world's biggest rivalries, Argentina vs. Brazil, over Soccer? I only know this because I spend my life reading fucking everything that crosses my path. Never met a single person who knew or cared about that, but I don't know anyone from AR or BR. Except for @KatThePoet, if he counts, if he's still around.

Anyway, yeah, all things science should only ever be questioned and disproved, in order to improve upon what we know. You can do that if you know your shit on a subject, and you can help anyone willing to listen by tirelessly trying to teach them. Maybe you're the one who will finally be able to explain something well enough to someone. Who knows?
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ohnoitschris
11/27/18 6:43:51 PM
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long post hahahhaha adderall rules
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ohnoitschris
11/29/18 4:03:52 AM
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Kinda surprised that big ol' post got no replies
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Wetterdew
11/29/18 4:17:18 AM
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CableZL posted...
1) The odds of running into someone who thinks this IRL are slim to none.

In college I shared an apartment with somebody who feared WiFi like this. He surrounded his bed with faraday cage and claimed wifi signals gave him headaches.
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Kineth
11/29/18 4:31:08 AM
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Wetterdew posted...
CableZL posted...
1) The odds of running into someone who thinks this IRL are slim to none.

In college I shared an apartment with somebody who feared WiFi like this. He surrounded his bed with faraday cage and claimed wifi signals gave him headaches.


I would think that if someone was aware of what a Faraday cage was, they'd have an understanding of wi-fi and how they aren't in any danger.
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a_riot04
11/29/18 5:00:13 AM
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Why would it need a cord if its wireless?
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11/29/18 5:05:21 AM
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