Current Events > Trump on Khashoggi's death: 'Maybe the world should be held accountable'

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-on-thanksgiving-defends-saudi-crown-prince-after-khashoggi-muder-2018-11/

After speaking with troops, President Trump spent part of his Thanksgiving morning defending Saudi Arabia following the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

Mr. Trump doubled down on his Tuesday statement that he sides with the Saudis, saying the Saudi crown prince and his father both "vehemently" deny a role in his death. The CIA, Mr. Trump said Thursday, never "concluded" that the Saudi royals were responsible in the death, although CBS News has confirmed that CIA intelligence points to Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordering the murder. Mr. Trump has refused to listen to audio of the killing.

Asked who should be held responsible for Khashoggi's death, the president said Thursday, "Maybe the world should be held accountable because the world is a vicious place."

"So I hate the crime and I hate what is done and I hate the cover-up," Mr. Trump also said. "And I will tell you this, the crown prince hates it more than I do."

The president has long couched his defense of the Saudis in economic terms, saying the financial relationship between the two nations is indispensable.

"Do people really want me to give up hundreds of thousands of jobs and frankly, if we went by this standard, we wouldn't have anybody as an ally," Mr. Trump said Thursday.

Earlier in the week, the president announced there would be no further punishment for the Saudis after Khashoggi's death, a statement that sent shockwaves across Washington and was described by critics as akin to propaganda for the Saudis.

"It could very well be that the crown prince had knowledge of this tragic event," the president said in the statement. "Maybe he did and maybe he didn't!" Mr. Trump said in his exclamation mark-laced written remarks.

What the actual literal fuck?
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It's amazing how quickly the right has embraced moral relativism
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Yea, maybe the world should be held accountable. He's right.
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glitteringfairy posted...

Yea, maybe the world should be held accountable. He's right.

Go on..
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But there's a "special place in hell" for Justin Trudeau. Like wtf ia wrong with him.
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1:50
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how long before he says khashoggi deserved to die for speaking out about glorious saudi arabia?
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I'm sure there are plenty of people who share varying degrees of culpability for the murder of Khashoggi, but maybe we should start with the guys who were caught passing around the bone saw, and the guy who bought it for them.
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But think of all the new American jobs it will create!
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humans are the true monsters
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Foppe posted...

But think of all the new American jobs it will create!

we'll corner the market in killing and cutting up reporters dear leader hates!!!
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Bio1590 posted...

and frankly, if we went by this standard, we wouldn't have anybody as an ally," Mr. Trump said Thursday.

As disgusting as the whole sentiment is

He's not exactly wrong.
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frozenshock posted...

But there's a "special place in hell" for Justin Trudeau. Like wtf ia wrong with him.

A lot.
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Bio1590 posted...

the crown prince hates it more than I do.

I'm not sure if this is bull shit or the truth. For one, Trump is probably indifferent as fuck, but there's no way the crown prince actually cares that he died. Just cares that they were caught.
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Does he really think that something can happen in an absolute monarchy without the ruler knowing about it?

Smashingpmkns posted...

Bio1590 posted...

the crown prince hates it more than I do.

I'm not sure if this is bull shit or the truth. For one, Trump is probably indifferent as fuck, but there's no way the crown prince actually cares that he died. Just cares that they were caught.

Of course he doesn't care, he's the one that ordered it.

The world is bigly responsible for Saudi Arabia committing atrocities.

I agree. Their leaders should have been turned into smoldering craters long before this.
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The world is a vampire...
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america literally worse than north korea
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Trump will blame the manufacturers of bonesaws next.
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I wish they'd just stop asking his opinion on this, he's been led too far down this path by Kushner and MBS to reverse course. Just listen to and only report what the Intelligence Agencies are saying.
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wackyteen posted...

Bio1590 posted...

and frankly, if we went by this standard, we wouldn't have anybody as an ally," Mr. Trump said Thursday.

As disgusting as the whole sentiment is

He's not exactly wrong.

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Antifar posted...

It's amazing how quickly the right has embraced moral relativism

its pathetic really.

all the nazi/trump jokes aside; if that dude was a literal nazi they would find a way to rationalize.

its insane watching this happen in real time. in my lifetime.
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Bio1590 posted...

I wish they'd just stop asking his opinion on this, he's been led too far down this path by Kushner and MBS to reverse course. Just listen to and only report what the Intelligence Agencies are saying.

This is a good point. They don't understand that most of the time Trump is defending himself and not the opinion. Or they do understand and exploit it for clicks n views.
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rikasa posted...

Bio1590 posted...

I wish they'd just stop asking his opinion on this, he's been led too far down this path by Kushner and MBS to reverse course. Just listen to and only report what the Intelligence Agencies are saying.

This is a good point. They don't understand that most of the time Trump is defending himself and not the opinion. Or they do understand and exploit it for clicks n views.

yes, its the medias responsibility to sift through his box of bullshit for the turd nugget of coherence....
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glitteringfairy posted...

Yea, maybe the world should be held accountable. He's right.

You don't even try anymore.
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wackyteen posted...

As disgusting as the whole sentiment is

He's not exactly wrong.

If we draw the line at "killing journalists", which other allies do we have to forego?
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https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/middle-east/north-africa/saudi-arabia

I wonder if he realizes that Saudi Arabia is only the 20th largest consumer of US exports. Or that Canada and Mexico are the two countries we should be bending over backwards to placate solely on basis of value as trade partners.

Incidentally, we have a trade surplus with Canada according to the US government itself, so chalk those tariffs up to more Trump delusion if not outright deliberate lies.
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Trump is every wife I read on Quora who tearfully admits she's only with her husband "for the kids" but at least trump admits it's about the money.
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Serious Cat posted...

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/middle-east/north-africa/saudi-arabia

I wonder if he realizes that Saudi Arabia is only the 20th largest consumer of US exports. Or that Canada and Mexico are the two countries we should be bending over backwards to placate solely on basis of value as trade partners.

Incidentally, we have a trade surplus with Canada according to the US government itself, so chalk those tariffs up to more Trump delusion if not outright deliberate lies.

Nope, but he realizes Saudi Arabia is the biggest funder of terrorism!

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/is-iran-really-the-worlds-leading-state-sponsor-of-terror

In his 2015 book, Time to Get Tough, which was published ahead of the presidential election, Trump wrote: Then look at Saudi Arabia. It is the worlds biggest funder of terrorism. Saudi Arabia funnels our petrodollars our very own money to fund the terrorists that seek to destroy our people, while the Saudis rely on us to protect them.

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Heineken14 posted...

Serious Cat posted...

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/middle-east/north-africa/saudi-arabia

I wonder if he realizes that Saudi Arabia is only the 20th largest consumer of US exports. Or that Canada and Mexico are the two countries we should be bending over backwards to placate solely on basis of value as trade partners.

Incidentally, we have a trade surplus with Canada according to the US government itself, so chalk those tariffs up to more Trump delusion if not outright deliberate lies.

Nope, but he realizes Saudi Arabia is the biggest funder of terrorism!

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/is-iran-really-the-worlds-leading-state-sponsor-of-terror

In his 2015 book, Time to Get Tough, which was published ahead of the presidential election, Trump wrote: Then look at Saudi Arabia. It is the worlds biggest funder of terrorism. Saudi Arabia funnels our petrodollars our very own money to fund the terrorists that seek to destroy our people, while the Saudis rely on us to protect them.

silly boy, that was before they helped him build some hotels.
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I mean he's right, the people who killed Kashoggi accidentally bone sawed his body parts after all.
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dave_is_slick posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Yea, maybe the world should be held accountable. He's right.

You don't even try anymore.

He never did.
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fuck the Saudis
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Why would anyone expect Trump to give a fuck?
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Why would anyone expect Trump to give a fuck?

I don't expect Trump to care, but I do expect the President of the United States to stand up for truth, justice and the american way.
He is standing up for nothing but himself.
He is standing up for lies, for injustice, but maybe that is how you stand up for the american way, these days.
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Mister_Spyker posted...

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Why would anyone expect Trump to give a fuck?

I don't expect Trump to care, but I do expect the President of the United States to stand up for truth, justice and the american way.
He is standing up for nothing but himself.
He is standing up for lies, for injustice, but maybe that is how you stand up for the american way, these days.

I mean, he somehow became President.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Mister_Spyker posted...

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Why would anyone expect Trump to give a fuck?

I don't expect Trump to care, but I do expect the President of the United States to stand up for truth, justice and the american way.
He is standing up for nothing but himself.
He is standing up for lies, for injustice, but maybe that is how you stand up for the american way, these days.

I mean, he somehow became President.

"Land" voted for him in.
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PostCrisisJ2 posted...

humans are the true monsters

Not all of them. Trump certainly is though.
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Evil people aren't born, they are created
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Remember when Obama and Clinton were too pro Saudi Arabia?
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...

https://qz.com/1425852/a-saudi-prince-helped-save-trump-from-bankruptcy-twice/

A helpful burst of cash from a Saudi prince eased some tension with his creditors. Alwaleed bin Talal bought Trump?s yacht for somewhere between $18 million and $20 million (reports vary). It wasn?t a great bit of business for Trump?he had bought it from the Sultan of Brunei three years earlier for a reported $29 million.

In 1995, Trump was still in deep trouble?and Alwaleed swooped in again. The prince, who calls himself the ?Warren Buffett of Saudi Arabia,? took over Trump?s 51% stake in his beloved New York Plaza hotel. As a result, Trump?s creditors forgave $125 million of his debt.

Alwaleed, who was one of several royals to be detained by Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman in 2017, is deemed the world?s 74th richest man by Bloomberg, and owns stakes in companies like Apple, Snapchat, Twitter and Citigroup.

hmmmm...

I heard about some of this. Glad to see it posted and sourced. I would have been too lazy tbh :/
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How is he completely unable to just shut the fuck up or say something else stupid to drop a smokescreen like he usually does? This is actually looking like it's going to stick for a change, which is rare with Trump.
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glitteringfairy posted...

Yea, maybe the world should be held accountable. He's right.

How exactly do you hold the world accoubtable?