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iClockwork
11/21/18 1:46:37 AM
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https://aleteia.org/2018/11/19/bishop-priest-and-more-than-40-others-killed-at-central-african-republic-church-and-refugee-camp/

More than 40 Christians, including a bishop and a priest, were killed in an attack on a Catholic cathedral and nearby refugee camp in the Central African Republic.

Guerrillas on November 15 attacked the Cathedral of Alindao and an adjoining compound where a camp for people displaced by previous violence had been established, America reported. The death toll is expected to rise as U.N. forces sift through the remains of the camp, which witnesses report was completely razed, the magazine said.

We have counted 42 bodies so far, but we are still searching for others, Etienne Godenaha, an Alindao legislator, told Reuters two days after the attack. The camp has been burned to the ground and people fled into the bush and to other [internally displaced persons] camps in the city.


Its amazing that people still try to argue that Christians aren't persecuted and discriminated against in todays world when stories like this come out weekly. This happens every single day and I guarantee 50% of the time it isn't even reported.
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I4NRulez
11/21/18 1:48:35 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Its amazing that people still try to argue that Christians aren't persecuted and discriminated against in todays world when stories like this come out weekly. This happens every single day and I guarantee 50% of the time it isn't even reported.


No one says that at all. People say that Christians in America aren't being persecuted because Starbucks says happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas as they claim
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_Lyonidias
11/21/18 1:49:18 AM
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I4NRulez posted...
iClockwork posted...
Its amazing that people still try to argue that Christians aren't persecuted and discriminated against in todays world when stories like this come out weekly. This happens every single day and I guarantee 50% of the time it isn't even reported.


No one says that at all. People say that Christians in America aren't being persecuted because Starbucks says happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas as they claim


This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.
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LightningAce11
11/21/18 1:49:29 AM
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I4NRulez posted...
iClockwork posted...
Its amazing that people still try to argue that Christians aren't persecuted and discriminated against in todays world when stories like this come out weekly. This happens every single day and I guarantee 50% of the time it isn't even reported.


No one says that at all. People say that Christians in America aren't being persecuted because Starbucks says happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas as they claim

Unfortunately, it has to be all or nothing with right wingers.
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MakoReizei
11/21/18 1:51:40 AM
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_Lyonidias posted...
I4NRulez posted...
iClockwork posted...
Its amazing that people still try to argue that Christians aren't persecuted and discriminated against in todays world when stories like this come out weekly. This happens every single day and I guarantee 50% of the time it isn't even reported.


No one says that at all. People say that Christians in America aren't being persecuted because Starbucks says happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas as they claim


This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.

You could say that about any group that claims they're persecuted in America
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iClockwork
11/21/18 1:53:20 AM
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_Lyonidias posted...
This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.

So your argument is becasue Christians in America have it relatively well(debatable) that the type of behavior in the link against Christians in other parts of the world is ok?

Holy shit what a terrible argument.
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ThyCorndog
11/21/18 1:54:12 AM
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iClockwork posted...
relatively well(debatable)

Lol
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Tmaster148
11/21/18 1:54:32 AM
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iClockwork posted...
_Lyonidias posted...
This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.

So your argument is becasue Christians in America have it relatively well(debatable) that the type of behavior in the link against Christians in other parts of the world is ok?

Holy shit what a terrible argument.


If you were capable of reading you would realize that he wasn't saying that.
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_Lyonidias
11/21/18 1:55:05 AM
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iClockwork posted...
_Lyonidias posted...
This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.

So your argument is becasue Christians in America have it relatively well(debatable) that the type of behavior in the link against Christians in other parts of the world is ok?

Holy shit what a terrible argument.


Where the hell did I say or even imply that lmao

I said that American Christians are lucky to live in a country where they can freely express their beliefs. Not that it dismissed the behavior against Christians in other parts of the world.


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iClockwork
11/21/18 2:27:25 AM
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_Lyonidias posted...
iClockwork posted...
_Lyonidias posted...
This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.

So your argument is becasue Christians in America have it relatively well(debatable) that the type of behavior in the link against Christians in other parts of the world is ok?

Holy shit what a terrible argument.


Where the hell did I say or even imply that lmao

I said that American Christians are lucky to live in a country where they can freely express their beliefs. Not that it dismissed the behavior against Christians in other parts of the world.


I don't know you made a strange non sequitor specifically about American Christians. Not sure how you got there so I was just returning the favor.
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_Lyonidias
11/21/18 2:32:08 AM
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No, you didnt understand what I meant and youre backpedaling.

Anyway, I said in America to piggyback off of what the quoted post was saying. As someone who lives in America, Im pretty sure I know what I am talking about when I say the Christians here arent persecuted, despite their ridiculous claims otherwise.
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eggcorn
11/21/18 2:33:57 AM
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I4NRulez posted...
iClockwork posted...
Its amazing that people still try to argue that Christians aren't persecuted and discriminated against in todays world when stories like this come out weekly. This happens every single day and I guarantee 50% of the time it isn't even reported.


No one says that at all. People say that Christians in America aren't being persecuted because Starbucks says happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas as they claim

No one makes that distinction unless someone brings something like this up.
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iClockwork
11/21/18 2:36:14 AM
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_Lyonidias posted...
No, you didnt understand what I meant and youre backpedaling.

No you tried to completely derail the topic by somehow shoehorning in American Christians when they're not in any way related to the story in the OP.

You're being dishonest and as someone who claimed to have a minor in philosophy its disgusting that you'd be comfortable using such non-sequiturs.
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_Lyonidias
11/21/18 2:37:54 AM
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iClockwork posted...
_Lyonidias posted...
No, you didnt understand what I meant and youre backpedaling.

No you tried to completely derail the topic by somehow shoehorning in American Christians when they're not in any way related to the story in the OP.

You're being dishonest and as someone who claimed to have a minor in philosophy its disgusting that you'd be comfortable using such non-sequiturs.


In your OP you mentioned people arguing that Christians arent persecuted. The cool thing is that they dont say that except in the context of situations like in America, hence it being relevant to the discussion.
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coinstarcad
11/21/18 2:38:23 AM
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Is it illegal for Christians to own a bible in America, or gather for worship? Are they being thrown behind bars for being Christian?
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iClockwork
11/21/18 2:44:42 AM
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_Lyonidias posted...
The cool thing is that they dont say that except in the context of situations like in America, hence it being relevant to the discussion.

It isn't relevant becasue there are groups who claim that Christians aren't discriminated against in any part of the world. Your premise is wrong and the following claims that stem from it are only being made to shift the discussion away from the truth that exposes your shaky beleif system.
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_Lyonidias
11/21/18 2:46:47 AM
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iClockwork posted...
_Lyonidias posted...
The cool thing is that they dont say that except in the context of situations like in America, hence it being relevant to the discussion.

It isn't relevant becasue there are groups who claim that Christians aren't discriminated against in any part of the world. Your premise is wrong and the following claims that stem from it are only being made to shift the discussion away from the truth that exposes your shaky beleif system.


What groups, specifically?
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Dragonblade01
11/21/18 2:49:44 AM
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When most Americans (read: a lot of people here) talk about Christians not being persecuted, they are speaking in response to supposed Christian persecution in America.

To not understand that is to be willfully dense.
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Tmaster148
11/21/18 2:50:25 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
When most Americans (read: a lot of people here) talk about Christians not being persecuted, they are speaking in response to supposed Christian persecution in America.

To not understand that is to be willfully dense.


You have to understand. TC doesn't have a great ability to read.
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Perascamin
11/21/18 2:54:27 AM
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_Lyonidias posted...
I4NRulez posted...
iClockwork posted...
Its amazing that people still try to argue that Christians aren't persecuted and discriminated against in todays world when stories like this come out weekly. This happens every single day and I guarantee 50% of the time it isn't even reported.


No one says that at all. People say that Christians in America aren't being persecuted because Starbucks says happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas as they claim


This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.

Except for the left is the only group of people holding onto that, what was it, 2013?
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iClockwork
11/21/18 2:55:16 AM
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_Lyonidias posted...
What groups, specifically?

Numerous groups and governements in Northern Africa, the Middle East, South Asia, Eastern Asia, and Southeastern Asia all deny that Christians are descriminated against while carrying out some of the worst atrocities against them.

Dragonblade01 posted...
When most Americans (read: a lot of people here) talk about Christians not being persecuted, they are speaking in response to supposed Christian persecution in America.

To not understand that is to be willfully dense.

That isn't the point being talked about in this thread.
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Samurontai
11/21/18 2:55:20 AM
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Dragonblade01
11/21/18 2:58:07 AM
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iClockwork posted...
That isn't the point being talked about in this thread.

You made it the point when you decided to open this topic by calling out "all the people who claim Christians aren't being persecuted."
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teepan95
11/21/18 2:59:30 AM
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Nothing to see here, move along
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Oatcakes
11/21/18 3:21:21 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
iClockwork posted...
_Lyonidias posted...
This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.

So your argument is becasue Christians in America have it relatively well(debatable) that the type of behavior in the link against Christians in other parts of the world is ok?

Holy shit what a terrible argument.


If you were capable of reading you would realize that he wasn't saying that.


When the right don't want to fund schools, they end up hurting their own.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/21/18 4:40:03 AM
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_Lyonidias posted...
I4NRulez posted...
iClockwork posted...
Its amazing that people still try to argue that Christians aren't persecuted and discriminated against in todays world when stories like this come out weekly. This happens every single day and I guarantee 50% of the time it isn't even reported.


No one says that at all. People say that Christians in America aren't being persecuted because Starbucks says happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas as they claim


This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/21/18 4:41:09 AM
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iClockwork posted...
_Lyonidias posted...
This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.

So your argument is becasue Christians in America have it relatively well(debatable) that the type of behavior in the link against Christians in other parts of the world is ok?

Holy shit what a terrible argument.


How did you manage to derive that from what she said lmao?
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teepan95
11/21/18 5:28:05 AM
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iClockwork posted...
_Lyonidias posted...
This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.

So your argument is becasue Christians in America have it relatively well(debatable) that the type of behavior in the link against Christians in other parts of the world is ok?

Holy shit what a terrible argument.

Why is it debatable?
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Ruvan22
11/21/18 6:41:04 PM
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iClockwork posted...
_Lyonidias posted...
The cool thing is that they dont say that except in the context of situations like in America, hence it being relevant to the discussion.

It isn't relevant becasue there are groups who claim that Christians aren't discriminated against in any part of the world. Your premise is wrong and the following claims that stem from it are only being made to shift the discussion away from the truth that exposes your shaky beleif system.


Which group "claim that Christians aren't discriminated against in any part of the world"? You mentioned some governments discriminating, but that's not the same as a group saying "Christians aren't discriminated against anywhere in the world"
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iClockwork
11/22/18 2:04:46 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
You mentioned some governments discriminating, but that's not the same as a group


You really think that...nvm i'll play along.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government
A government is the system or group of people governing an organized community, often a state.
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Roxborough4Ever
11/22/18 2:05:17 AM
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snopes isn't confirming anything, hasn't even popped up on their radar yet.....because of the source, im unsure of this story
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DocDelicious
11/22/18 2:34:45 AM
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Clearly this is part of God's plan.
Turn the other cheek or something.
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knutjob
11/22/18 2:45:38 AM
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Saying Christians are being persecuted in central African Republic is an absurd oversimplification of what is going on there. They've done plenty of bad stuff to Muslims too. Obviously that doesn't justify this incident.
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QtPatootie462
11/22/18 2:46:09 AM
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Its dangerous being a Christian these days
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Ruvan22
11/23/18 2:13:41 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
You mentioned some governments discriminating, but that's not the same as a group


You really think that...nvm i'll play along.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government
A government is the system or group of people governing an organized community, often a state.


Why did you ignore the rest of my post? I'm still waiting for WHICH government made the claim you made...
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hockeybub89
11/23/18 2:17:14 AM
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I don't think that most American Christians that feel persecuted are thinking about Africa when they throw a pity party. African governments are not affecting their lives.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
11/23/18 2:29:56 AM
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iClockwork posted...
_Lyonidias posted...
This. Christians in America have no idea how lucky they are here.

So your argument is becasue Christians in America have it relatively well(debatable) that the type of behavior in the link against Christians in other parts of the world is ok?

Holy shit what a terrible argument.

How in the buggering fuck is it debatable? Virtually the entire political and economic structure of the U.S. is totally dominated by people who at least profess to be Christians (whether they're CINO's is a topic for another time). Between Catholicism and Protestantism, 83% of the country claim Christianity as a religious belief. And yet conservatives want to complain that Christians are persecuted because people want them to treat others equally, or because someone says "Happy holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas".
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