Current Events > Is socialism good or bad?

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I vote no as I believe the best results from the populace come from giving them incentive to do their bests. Socialism offers little incentive to do great work.
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It's good as hell, imo
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Antifar posted...

It's good as hell, imo

It isn't feasible in the long term. The only country which has a decent socialist program is Norway and that is because of the profits they get from OPEC. Otherwise, it wouldn't feasible there.
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Antifar posted...

It's good as hell, imo

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Godnorgosh posted...

Imagine socialism as equivalent to Pikachu in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJH0VJJV6dA" data-time="

It's OP.

So it barely survives several times where it should have died?
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Something something, other people's money:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c8Gkm8VSLE" data-time="

i think its a seasoning. you don't want a dish of only socialism, capitalism needs to be the base.

right now we are under seasoned.
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It's great if you enjoy spending most of your day waiting in a bread line
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If it was bad then governments with high gdp wouldn't dabble in it.
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It is catastrophically bad for everyone.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/help-we-need-a-boss-here-workers-anguish-as-firms-leave-venezuela-1541586601

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/26/venezuelan-mass-exodus-continues-amid-economic-turmoil

Like a lotta things, it's good in moderation. All the scare mongering is from the 1% hoarding and dumbasses that don't know anything except what cold war propaganda told them.
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Socialism won't drive the human race extinct like capitalism is already close to achieving
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Antifar posted...

It's good as hell, imo

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Rad_Chad posted...

Like a lotta things, it's good in moderation. All the scare mongering is from the 1% hoarding and dumbasses that don't know anything except what cold war propaganda told them.

The tendency towards command economy is undeniable.
Just look at Venezuela, right now, or even France.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Rad_Chad posted...

Like a lotta things, it's good in moderation. All the scare mongering is from the 1% hoarding and dumbasses that don't know anything except what cold war propaganda told them.

The tendency towards command economy is undeniable.
Just look at Venezuela, right now, or even France.

It has that tendency because it is inherent in Marxism. The Communist Manifesto isn't a long read at all and explicitly states what the goals are.

Unchecked capitalism is no better than unchecked anything else, bros. It allllll leads to autocracy
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A mix of socialism and capitalism is ideal. Pure capitalism is shit, pure socialism is shit.

Rad_Chad posted...

Unchecked capitalism is no better than unchecked anything else, bros. It allllll leads to autocracy

We don't have unchecked capitalism. There are regulations in place. And as needed we can remove and add regulations, break up monopolies, etc.

CornBarn posted...

Rad_Chad posted...

Unchecked capitalism is no better than unchecked anything else, bros. It allllll leads to autocracy

We don't have unchecked capitalism. There are regulations in place. And as needed we can remove and add regulations, break up monopolies, etc.

When a visit to the ER for a broken toenail costs 50 million dollars, I don't know what you can call that other than unchecked capitalism.
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frozenshock posted...

CornBarn posted...

Rad_Chad posted...

Unchecked capitalism is no better than unchecked anything else, bros. It allllll leads to autocracy

We don't have unchecked capitalism. There are regulations in place. And as needed we can remove and add regulations, break up monopolies, etc.

When a visit to the ER for a broken toenail costs 50 million dollars, I don't know what you can call that other than unchecked capitalism.

That is called taking advantage of highly available services that are expensive because of high availability, when you should have just gone to an urgent care center or your clinic down the street.

And it's also called no competition because of hospital administrators working together to block competition.

CornBarn posted...

And it's also called no competition because of hospital administrators working together to block competition.

That's literally a big part of unchecked capitalism. A completely free market wouldn't work like the dreamers think it would. Human greed would interfere and cause the big companies to keep down the little guys.

CornBarn posted...

That is called taking advantage of highly available services that are expensive because of high availability, when you should have just gone to an urgent care center or your clinic down the street.

And it's also called no competition because of hospital administrators working together to block competition.

There's no defending this.
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VictimComplex posted...

CornBarn posted...

And it's also called no competition because of hospital administrators working together to block competition.

That's literally a big part of unchecked capitalism. A completely free market wouldn't work like the dreamers think it would. Human greed would interfere and cause the big companies to keep down the little guys.

Most of the big companies from 30 years ago lost their market dominance to new entrants. Competition is definitely a thing and anti-trust laws exist to break up monopolies that stifle competition.