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King_Hellebuyck
11/04/18 2:14:52 PM
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CornBarn posted...
I can't trust someone who equates not voting (D) with ushering in fascism. That's clearly not a developed perspective to hold.

We get it, youre trolling
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RoboLaserGandhi
11/04/18 2:16:47 PM
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The Democrats would be such an unbelievably easy option if they just stopped trying to fight fire with fire. All you have to do is be sane. It's that easy, but the Democrats are staunchly committed to snatching defeat from the clutches of victory.
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Antifar
11/04/18 2:17:49 PM
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Democrats have largely campaigned this year on healthcare. The Republican president has spent the past month trying to gin up fears of immigrants.
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Bio1590
11/04/18 2:18:53 PM
#54:


CornBarn posted...
I can't trust someone who equates not voting (D) with ushering in fascism. That's clearly not a developed perspective to hold.

But it's the correct one.

And again

Bio1590 posted...
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NinjaWarrior455
11/04/18 2:19:21 PM
#55:


RoboLaserGandhi posted...
The Democrats would be such an unbelievably easy option if they just stopped trying to fight fire with fire. All you have to do is be sane. It's that easy, but the Democrats are staunchly committed to snatching defeat from the clutches of victory.

Why? They were sane in 2016 and the American people still voted for the insane option in Trump. You can't tell Dems to act like the bigger person when their opponents whined for nearly a decade and got rewarded with all three branches of government.
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Broseph_Stalin
11/04/18 2:19:48 PM
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0 days since conservative projection
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Antifar
11/04/18 2:21:16 PM
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CornBarn
11/04/18 2:21:30 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
The Democrats would be such an unbelievably easy option if they just stopped trying to fight fire with fire. All you have to do is be sane. It's that easy, but the Democrats are staunchly committed to snatching defeat from the clutches of victory.

Why? They were sane in 2016 and the American people still voted for the insane option in Trump. You can't tell Dems to act like the bigger person when their opponents whined for nearly a decade and got rewarded with all three branches of government.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYNVH0U3cs" data-time="
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rikasa
11/04/18 2:23:14 PM
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I cried on election night too
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Sayoria
11/04/18 2:25:26 PM
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Government NEEDS checks and balances. We no longer have that and that is dangerous. This independent is voting straight across the board democrat and yes on all three of my state's ballot questions.
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Kombucha
11/04/18 2:25:27 PM
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CornBarn posted...
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
The Democrats would be such an unbelievably easy option if they just stopped trying to fight fire with fire. All you have to do is be sane. It's that easy, but the Democrats are staunchly committed to snatching defeat from the clutches of victory.

Why? They were sane in 2016 and the American people still voted for the insane option in Trump. You can't tell Dems to act like the bigger person when their opponents whined for nearly a decade and got rewarded with all three branches of government.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYNVH0U3cs" data-time="


This is going to be a tame reaction compared to what you will see done when Trump is finally voted out if the recent terrorist attacks by people on the far right have been any good indication. Holy shit.
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CornBarn
11/04/18 2:26:34 PM
#62:


Antifar posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/01/indicted-congressman-falsely-ties-opponent-terrorism/

https://apnews.com/38d8f8265454455d982f835e1be61e6d

Identity politics


Definitely a problem that has spilled out from the (D) playbook of always making similar attacks on "old white Christian men" who are called the root of all evil.

I don't want to vote (R), I'm just at a loss for why I should vote for (D). We need a viable 3rd option that isn't some libertarian who would celebrate after getting .1% of the votes.
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Bio1590
11/04/18 2:30:18 PM
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Kineth
11/04/18 2:31:11 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
*shits in topic*

Whoops redundant

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Antifar
11/04/18 2:31:17 PM
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Doom_Art
11/04/18 2:31:19 PM
#66:


CornBarn posted...
I don't want to vote (R)

Then don't lol
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thronedfire2
11/04/18 2:31:58 PM
#67:


Bio1590 posted...
Wait is this Prodclod lmfao


that would make sense

gotta dip deep to find his accounts that haven't been banned yet
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Sayoria
11/04/18 2:32:19 PM
#68:


CornBarn posted...
Antifar posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/01/indicted-congressman-falsely-ties-opponent-terrorism/

https://apnews.com/38d8f8265454455d982f835e1be61e6d

Identity politics


Definitely a problem that has spilled out from the (D) playbook of always making similar attacks on "old white Christian men" who are called the root of all evil.

I don't want to vote (R), I'm just at a loss for why I should vote for (D). We need a viable 3rd option that isn't some libertarian who would celebrate after getting .1% of the votes.


Checks and balances. You want a leader who can do whatever he wants without being checked? I sure as fuck don't, and I wanted a (moderate) Republican to win in 2016. Trump is dangerous to allow having free reign of all government branches.
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Intro2Logic
11/04/18 2:32:31 PM
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I think there are a lot of people who will be voting Republican because of identity politics. But that says more about them than the Democrats.
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rikasa
11/04/18 2:32:39 PM
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You know who had a shot at being the "viable 3rd option" for the first time in decades and threw it all away to join the Democrats? Bernie Sanders. He didn't want to do it. No one else is even close and won't be for years so stop crying about it.
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FursonaNonGrata
11/04/18 2:34:01 PM
#73:


Antifar posted...
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1058761659412606976


Theres a heinously bad radio ad playing here in Maine thats a kid saying something like Bye Mom and Dad, Im moving out of the state. Dont worry, a Syrian refugee will take my place when Im gone. and then goes on to discuss a strong border and keeping jobs in Maine but without actually investing in infrastructure.
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CornBarn
11/04/18 2:34:18 PM
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Sayoria posted...
CornBarn posted...
Antifar posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/01/indicted-congressman-falsely-ties-opponent-terrorism/

https://apnews.com/38d8f8265454455d982f835e1be61e6d

Identity politics


Definitely a problem that has spilled out from the (D) playbook of always making similar attacks on "old white Christian men" who are called the root of all evil.

I don't want to vote (R), I'm just at a loss for why I should vote for (D). We need a viable 3rd option that isn't some libertarian who would celebrate after getting .1% of the votes.


Checks and balances. You want a leader who can do whatever he wants without being checked? I sure as fuck don't, and I wanted a (moderate) Republican to win in 2016. Trump is dangerous to allow having free reign of all government branches.


It'd be okay if it's Bernie Samders. Then we'd know that America's huge revenue engine is working for us instead of for just the top .1% of the top .1%

Oh but wait I forgot about how (D)s screwed him over.
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rikasa
11/04/18 2:34:27 PM
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Who's a recent independent with a bigger following? Gary Johnson?
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CornBarn
11/04/18 2:35:35 PM
#76:


rikasa posted...
You know who had a shot at being the "viable 3rd option" for the first time in decades and threw it all away to join the Democrats? Bernie Sanders. He didn't want to do it. No one else is even close and won't be for years so stop crying about it.


He was banking on getting the nomination fair and square and then using it as a shortcut to power. It was a really smart move that would have worked if things were fair.
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Doom_Art
11/04/18 2:36:19 PM
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It really is quite bizarre still seeing people on the right pretending to care/be outraged over Sanders in the 2016 election
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rikasa
11/04/18 2:36:38 PM
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Lmao @ saying D's screwed over Bernie. You want an independent party and candidate but you want the Democrats to fund it. That makes absolutely no sense. It's just a shortcut people who aren't smart enough to come to an actual opinion use so they don't feel like idiots in a discussion.
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Sayoria
11/04/18 2:37:48 PM
#79:


CornBarn posted...
Sayoria posted...
CornBarn posted...
Antifar posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/01/indicted-congressman-falsely-ties-opponent-terrorism/

https://apnews.com/38d8f8265454455d982f835e1be61e6d

Identity politics


Definitely a problem that has spilled out from the (D) playbook of always making similar attacks on "old white Christian men" who are called the root of all evil.

I don't want to vote (R), I'm just at a loss for why I should vote for (D). We need a viable 3rd option that isn't some libertarian who would celebrate after getting .1% of the votes.


Checks and balances. You want a leader who can do whatever he wants without being checked? I sure as fuck don't, and I wanted a (moderate) Republican to win in 2016. Trump is dangerous to allow having free reign of all government branches.


It'd be okay if it's Bernie Samders. Then we'd know that America's huge revenue engine is working for us instead of for just the top .1% of the top .1%

Oh but wait I forgot about how (D)s screwed him over.


If democrats want a winner for president, Joe Kennedy III or Sherrod Brown would be the best people for the job. Preferably Kennedy, given name recognition.
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Antifar
11/04/18 2:38:52 PM
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What do Kennedy and Brown have to offer, exactly?
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CornBarn
11/04/18 2:39:07 PM
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Sayoria posted...
CornBarn posted...
Sayoria posted...
CornBarn posted...
Antifar posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/01/indicted-congressman-falsely-ties-opponent-terrorism/

https://apnews.com/38d8f8265454455d982f835e1be61e6d

Identity politics


Definitely a problem that has spilled out from the (D) playbook of always making similar attacks on "old white Christian men" who are called the root of all evil.

I don't want to vote (R), I'm just at a loss for why I should vote for (D). We need a viable 3rd option that isn't some libertarian who would celebrate after getting .1% of the votes.


Checks and balances. You want a leader who can do whatever he wants without being checked? I sure as fuck don't, and I wanted a (moderate) Republican to win in 2016. Trump is dangerous to allow having free reign of all government branches.


It'd be okay if it's Bernie Samders. Then we'd know that America's huge revenue engine is working for us instead of for just the top .1% of the top .1%

Oh but wait I forgot about how (D)s screwed him over.


If democrats want a winner for president, Joe Kennedy III or Sherrod Brown would be the best people for the job. Preferably Kennedy, given name recognition.


I want Al Gore to run again. That man was robbed.
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Doom_Art
11/04/18 2:39:13 PM
#82:


Sayoria posted...
If democrats want a winner for president, Joe Kennedy III or Sherrod Brown would be the best people for the job. Preferably Kennedy, given name recognition.

If name recognition made a winning candidate, Jeb! Bush or Hillary Clinton would be President right now
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RoboLaserGandhi
11/04/18 2:39:37 PM
#83:


I would vote D down the ticket no issue if they weren't so caught up on gun control. I just can't bring myself to vote for someone who wants to ban "1000-bullet assault clipazines" and thinks military-pattern firearms are somehow unbelievably more dangerous than your grandpa's Mini-14.
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RoboLaserGandhi
11/04/18 2:41:37 PM
#84:


rikasa posted...
Lmao @ saying D's screwed over Bernie. You want an independent party and candidate but you want the Democrats to fund it. That makes absolutely no sense. It's just a shortcut people who aren't smart enough to come to an actual opinion use so they don't feel like idiots in a discussion.

Trump did something extremely similar and won.
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Sayoria
11/04/18 2:42:33 PM
#85:


Antifar posted...
Joe Kennedy sucks ass


Why? He's a great democrat.

CornBarn posted...


I want Al Gore to run again. That man was robbed.


Ehhhhhhhh.

rikasa posted...
Who's a recent independent with a bigger following? Gary Johnson?


To be honest, Bill Maher, though self-proclaimed liberal, is by far my favorite independent person with a platform. That man is so straightminded, I love the guy.
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Antifar
11/04/18 2:42:47 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
rikasa posted...
Lmao @ saying D's screwed over Bernie. You want an independent party and candidate but you want the Democrats to fund it. That makes absolutely no sense. It's just a shortcut people who aren't smart enough to come to an actual opinion use so they don't feel like idiots in a discussion.

Trump did something extremely similar and won.

Trump also had more votes than his opponents
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Sayoria
11/04/18 2:43:11 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Sayoria posted...
If democrats want a winner for president, Joe Kennedy III or Sherrod Brown would be the best people for the job. Preferably Kennedy, given name recognition.

If name recognition made a winning candidate, Jeb! Bush or Hillary Clinton would be President right now


The Kennedy name still has value though.
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Antifar
11/04/18 2:44:15 PM
#88:


Sayoria posted...

The Kennedy name still has value though.

To who?
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FursonaNonGrata
11/04/18 2:45:01 PM
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Antifar posted...
Sayoria posted...

The Kennedy name still has value though.

To who?


Trust fund democrats in MA lol
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Doom_Art
11/04/18 2:46:01 PM
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Sayoria posted...
The Kennedy name still has value though.

Far less value than Bush and Clinton, and their names were more of a hindrance than anything
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Sayoria
11/04/18 2:46:03 PM
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Antifar posted...
Sayoria posted...

The Kennedy name still has value though.

To who?


To politics. People liked JFK. People like Joe. I think he could do well.
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RoboLaserGandhi
11/04/18 2:46:47 PM
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There's a significant number of voting-age people these days who don't even know if Kennedy was Democrat or Republican and just remember he was assassinated.
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Sayoria
11/04/18 2:47:18 PM
#94:


Doom_Art posted...
Sayoria posted...
The Kennedy name still has value though.

Far less value than Bush and Clinton, and their names were more of a hindrance than anything

People are sick and tired of Bushes and Clintons. Not Kennedys.
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Doom_Art
11/04/18 2:47:19 PM
#95:


Sayoria posted...
People liked JFK

Yeah, people half a century ago.

Now Ted Kennedy was a popular senator for many years, but even then you'd have a hard time getting people excited about a family member of his by invoking his last name
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rikasa
11/04/18 2:47:37 PM
#96:


RoboLaserGandhi posted...
rikasa posted...
Lmao @ saying D's screwed over Bernie. You want an independent party and candidate but you want the Democrats to fund it. That makes absolutely no sense. It's just a shortcut people who aren't smart enough to come to an actual opinion use so they don't feel like idiots in a discussion.

Trump did something extremely similar and won.

Sure, in which case you'll just examine each party year-to-year and accept that it's OK to use the name/funds and have a cause of your own. Which is how I see it. Instead of crying big crocodile tears at the polls about how there's not enough parties to pick from.
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Bio1590
11/04/18 2:47:52 PM
#97:


shockthemonkey posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Wait is this Prodclod lmfao

He hasnt yelled about commies yet so it seems doubtful

Yeah but given he closed one of his accounts this could just be him trying to hide who he is at first again so he can "reinvent" himself again (then end up as the same joke poster).
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Antifar
11/04/18 2:49:19 PM
#98:


Sayoria posted...
People liked JFK

Anybody old enough to remember JFK is in their sixties and probably consuming a steady diet of Fox News. They're more likely to associate the name with Ted and his car crash.
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Sayoria
11/04/18 2:50:10 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Sayoria posted...
People liked JFK

Yeah, people half a century ago.

Now Ted Kennedy was a popular senator for many years, but even then you'd have a hard time getting people excited about a family member of his by invoking his last name


Senator is one thing. Get a Kennedy to rise again on a National, presidential level, and things would change.
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Antifar
11/04/18 2:51:02 PM
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At any rate, suggesting Democrats elect people based on nothing but their perceived "electability" is both circular logic and exactly what happened in 2016
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