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BlingBling22947
10/31/18 7:28:22 PM
#1:


out. Now it's legally his.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46039642

Welp.
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spudger
10/31/18 7:30:06 PM
#2:


who doesnt check on their property for 20 years?

fair;next
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TiamatLover
10/31/18 7:30:23 PM
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If it's abandoned like that, fair enough tbh.
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thronedfire2
10/31/18 7:31:22 PM
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ehh..idk how he can be considered a squatter if he was renting it out.

if one of his tenants had just refused to move out would it become their house?
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BlingBling22947
11/01/18 6:31:05 PM
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theyd need to make improvements on the property, thats a key part of adverse possession
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BlingBling22947
11/02/18 6:12:52 PM
#6:


PROTIP: Always maintain your properties!
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AlephZero
11/02/18 6:14:11 PM
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'I decided to take possession'

can i use that in my shoplifting defense
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Tyranthraxus
11/02/18 6:14:59 PM
#9:


thronedfire2 posted...
ehh..idk how he can be considered a squatter if he was renting it out.

if one of his tenants had just refused to move out would it become their house?

It has to do with whose paying the bills or taxes. Because the tenant is paying rent and not paying most bills directly or taxes, then no.
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BlingBling22947
11/02/18 6:16:22 PM
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I like how they wanted the house back after it was repaired lmao.
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nemu
11/02/18 6:18:19 PM
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That's such a stupid law. It would be one thing if the person died and had literally no family, but they should be able to look up to see there were relatives during the application process. For anything like that, he should need to show something like certified letters going out to the owners on a yearly basis stating his intentions and then he gets it if they do not contest it.
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DarkBuster22904
11/02/18 6:18:24 PM
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1.1 million dollars?

Dont get me wrong, it's a nice enough looking place, but... yeesh
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BlingBling22947
11/02/18 6:24:15 PM
#13:


they did this in NY back in the day . . .
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BlingBling22947
11/03/18 6:19:49 PM
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dont let America see this
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K181
11/03/18 6:23:08 PM
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Adverse possession is a thing in America, too. My parents took care of an empty lot next door to their house for well over a decade that just never sold as it was an obvious mistake leftover from when the plots were laid out as it was like a third the size of other lots in their neighborhood, and after years of that they legally gained possession of it as well.
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Damn_Underscore
11/03/18 6:24:35 PM
#16:


fair next
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marc55
11/03/18 7:52:07 PM
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how could he lease the house to anyone without owning it ?

He said he went to the property in late 1998 and determined that it was unoccupied and uninhabitable.

what?

That tenant leased the home until her death in April 1998.

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KainWind
11/03/18 7:55:32 PM
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So they could have just showed up in 2008 and decided they wanted the house back and there's nothing the guy who took it could do about it?
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Antifar
11/03/18 7:56:05 PM
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God bless
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Butterfiles
11/03/18 7:58:59 PM
#20:


whatta champ
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NibeIungsnarf
11/03/18 8:00:48 PM
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Mr Gertos was granted ownership under a law recognising squatters' rights


Why should squatters have any rights?.
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bevan306
11/03/18 8:02:53 PM
#22:


the only scandal here is australia's ridiculous property prices
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Intro2Logic
11/03/18 8:04:52 PM
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For the people who oppose this: what are your thoughts on pirating old games?
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NibeIungsnarf
11/03/18 8:05:55 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
For the people who oppose this: what are your thoughts on pirating old games?

How is it different than pirating new games?

Also in this analogy the game was new when he pirated it and then nobody noticed until he said he owned it.
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Damn_Underscore
11/03/18 8:14:03 PM
#25:


bevan306 posted...
the only scandal here is australia's ridiculous property prices


There are only a few spots in Australia that are even habitable
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bevan306
11/03/18 8:17:52 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
bevan306 posted...
the only scandal here is australia's ridiculous property prices


There are only a few spots in Australia that are even habitable

yeah and our population is about 10 people
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uwnim
11/03/18 8:19:28 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Mr Gertos was granted ownership under a law recognising squatters' rights


Why should squatters have any rights?.

Because if a property is abandoned it causes issues. If someone puts in the effort to put the place into, and maintain, a good condition it benefits the area and they should be rewarded for it.
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marc55
11/04/18 12:26:53 AM
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uwnim posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Mr Gertos was granted ownership under a law recognising squatters' rights


Why should squatters have any rights?.

Because if a property is abandoned it causes issues. If someone puts in the effort to put the place into, and maintain, a good condition it benefits the area and they should be rewarded for it.

it seems he didnt even try to talk to the owners back then in 1998
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BlingBling22947
11/05/18 7:34:34 PM
#29:


I've always loved the concept of squatting.

"Bitch I been here long enough its mine now".
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KiwiTerraRizing
11/05/18 7:35:40 PM
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Thats the common law, applies here too
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pikachupwnage
11/05/18 7:42:04 PM
#31:


marc55 posted...
how could he lease the house to anyone without owning it ?

He said he went to the property in late 1998 and determined that it was unoccupied and uninhabitable.

what?

That tenant leased the home until her death in April 1998.


Its quite possible that the tenant poorly maintained the place.

That or existing problems got worse/new ones cropped up in the abscence of a resident.

For example a cockroach problem could become far worse with no one trying to control it.
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BlingBling22947
11/06/18 7:33:27 PM
#32:


It's a goal of mine to acquire a house this way.

in Arizona you can have squatters rights after staying in a property for only 2 years
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Dash_Harber
11/06/18 7:34:44 PM
#33:


Taking a page from the treatment of First Nations people, huh?
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marc55
11/07/18 10:08:55 AM
#34:


i find it really odd he could rent a place without owning it first

isnt that illegal ?
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kingdrake2
11/07/18 10:34:05 AM
#35:


marc55 posted...
i find it really odd he could rent a place without owning it first

isnt that illegal ?


different laws in Australia but in the states have to own the home first.
even then each state has different laws for squatting. if tried something like it in oregon would get a trespassing charge.
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marc55
11/07/18 2:37:07 PM
#36:


kingdrake2 posted...
marc55 posted...
i find it really odd he could rent a place without owning it first

isnt that illegal ?


different laws in Australia but in the states have to own the home first.
even then each state has different laws for squatting. if tried something like it in oregon would get a trespassing charge.

i remember something like what you say was posted here a long time ago
a family left their home to take care of a sick relative and came back to find someone living at their home claiming pretty much what this guy said that the house was abandoned

in this one the original owners should at least get all the money he made during all the years before the court gave him the house

because breaking into someone property (abandoned or not) and renting it has to be illegal!
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Nomadic View
11/07/18 2:40:41 PM
#37:


BlingBling22947 posted...
dont let America see this


Adverse possession has been a thing in America forever.
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Nomadic View
11/07/18 2:43:47 PM
#39:


AlisLandale posted...
AlephZero posted...
'I decided to take possession'

can i use that in my shoplifting defense


Just dont get caught for 20 years apparently >_>


One of the elements of adverse possession is you have to be open and hostile about the property. In this context hostile means that youre using it in a way that demonstrates you own it and do not have intentions of allowing other people access.

Adverse possession on a chattel is pretty rare, but for real estate this element is proven by putting up a fence or a no trespass sign.
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