Current Events > Trump should sue the anti-defamation league for slander

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Was watching an interview where their official stance on the shooting was that hate speech and slander aren't free speech.

And also that Trump is a hateful anti-semite.
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And people who know nothing regarding the particulars of defamation law should stop saying people should file defamation claims.
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ThePieReborn posted...

And people who know nothing regarding the particulars of defamation law should stop saying people should file defamation claims.

It was an affirmative statement that was untrue and has hurt his reputation. It absolutely qualifies.
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And public officials require a higher standard of demonstrating actual malice. I've already had this conversation multiple times before and I have very little interest in digging through Westlaw/my posting history to find case citations.
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SageHarpuia posted...

ThePieReborn posted...

And people who know nothing regarding the particulars of defamation law should stop saying people should file defamation claims.

It was an affirmative statement that was untrue and has hurt his reputation. It absolutely qualifies.

His reputation? Hahahaha
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So I didn't have to dig too far.

Let me provide some fun quotes.

New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 272-73 (1964)

Injury to official reputation error affords no more warrant for repressing speech that would otherwise be free than does factual error. . . . This is true even though the utterance contains "half-truths" and "misinformation."

New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 281 (1964) (quoting Coleman v. MacLennan, 98 P. 281 (1908))

(I)t is of the utmost consequence that the people should discuss the character and qualifications of candidates for their suffrages. The importance to the state and to society of such discussions is so vast, and the advantages derived are so great that they more than counterbalance the inconvenience of private persons whose conduct may be involved, and occasional injury to the reputations of individuals must yield to the public welfare, although at times such injury may be great. The public benefit from publicity is so great and the chance of injury to private character so small that such discussion must be privileged.

New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 271 (1964) (citations omitted)

Authoritative interpretations of the First Amendment guarantees have consistently refused to recognize an exception for any test of truthwhether administered by judges, juries, or administrative officialsand especially one that puts the burden of proving truth on the speaker. . . . The constitutional protection does not turn upon the truth, popularity, or social utility of the ideas and beliefs which are offered.

New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 270 (1964)

Thus we consider this case against the background of a profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials.

There's a reason why the birther derelicts are not sitting in third world poverty right now. Think harder, short-pants.

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Then the adl can be dissolved because defamation can't be sued over.
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Literally anything and everything negative anyone has ever said about trump is 100% factually true and accurate.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Literally anything and everything negative anyone has ever said about trump is 100% factually true and accurate.

You're that guy everyone's talking about when they say the media brainwashes people.
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Dissolved for what reason? And how?

I certainly hope you're not one of those small government types.
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SageHarpuia posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Literally anything and everything negative anyone has ever said about trump is 100% factually true and accurate.

You're that guy everyone's talking about when they say the media brainwashes people.

I don't even pay attention to the media.
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Trump is pretty hateful. Not seeing the slander.
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Trump is a mushroom-dicked pussy.

Imagine if one of his supporters ever knew what they were talking about concerning any topic, this included.
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SageHarpuia posted...

Was watching an interview where their official stance on the shooting was that hate speech and slander aren't free speech.

And also that Trump is a hateful anti-semite.

Must defend hate speech!!
~MAGAboys

SageHarpuia posted...

Was watching an interview where their official stance on the shooting was that hate speech and slander aren't free speech.

And also that Trump is a hateful anti-semite.

Also, pro-tip: public figures have a MUCH higher threshold for slander, that is why TMZ gets away with the shit they do

And just like everyone before him, Sage is falling into the same bucket of "conservative posters on CE slowly becoming caricatures of themselves"....it happens to all of them for some reason.
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Trump is one of those kinds of assholes who probably doesn't totally *hate* Jewish people, but thinks they are only useful as his accountants.
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Ok good luck I guess?
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VipaGTS posted...

And just like everyone before him, Sage is falling into the same bucket of "conservative posters on CE slowly becoming caricatures of themselves"....it happens to all of them for some reason.

Heres why. Conservatism in America is mostly driven by bigotry and ignorance.

The maybe 5 percent of Republicans that are pro-market fundementalists are drowned out by the 95 percent of rabid, frothing at the mouth bigots.

SageHarpuia posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Literally anything and everything negative anyone has ever said about trump is 100% factually true and accurate.

You're that guy everyone's talking about when they say the media brainwashes people.

I've found that anyone who uses "literally" to try and make a point is usually not worth talking with honestly.
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Sage believes in young earth creationism. He's just projecting when he talks about brainwashing.

Trump has threatened to sue everyone for defamation a million times and never follows through because he never has a case.
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BarneyBosco posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Literally anything and everything negative anyone has ever said about trump is 100% factually true and accurate.

You're that guy everyone's talking about when they say the media brainwashes people.

I've found that anyone who uses "literally" to try and make a point is usually not worth talking with honestly.

I've found that anyone who uses the words "media" and "brainwashed" concurrently are usually deficient in IQ.
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BarneyBosco posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Literally anything and everything negative anyone has ever said about trump is 100% factually true and accurate.

You're that guy everyone's talking about when they say the media brainwashes people.

I've found that anyone who uses "literally" to try and make a point is usually not worth talking with honestly.

What you think is irrelevant. Sage will literally never stop being obsessed with me.
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I like how the conversation shifted. >_>
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VipaGTS posted...

And just like everyone before him, Sage is falling into the same bucket of "conservative posters on CE slowly becoming caricatures of themselves"....it happens to all of them for some reason.

The mods didn't like it when I made legitimate arguments.
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His most beloved child is Jewish

Trump's a good guy. He brushes his teeth, he ties his shoes, he even has his maids read to his kids...Why can't we all just get along? He's such a nice guy - and I'm sure hugging him provides the same sense of embrace that seeing an old friend would hold.

Just because he's a jerk, racist, and possibly misogynist doesn't mean we shouldn't show him a little love. Ever see the Grinch? Maybe showing that there's love in this world is enough to turn him around.
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Alphamon posted...

Sage believes in young earth creationism. He's just projecting when he talks about brainwashing.

Oof.