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gunplagirl
10/23/18 11:44:17 AM
#355:


CyricZ posted...
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^ Just because one country's policies have boarded the crazy train doesn't mean another's should follow suit.

Tell me what's so crazy train about transgender people and their passports.

Remember that one time when the German government revoked all Jewish passports and all replacement ones were required to have a mark indicating that the holder is Jewish?

Trans people, despite years of complaints (and attempted lawsuits that fizzle out without any actual policy change) still get patted down for "anomalies" nearly every time we're in an airport. If we get our gender markers revoked and defaulted, then we'll get flagged not for our genitals but for having breasts. And they'll be checked, in the open, by a tsa agent. Post op ones will definitely be flagged for genitals.
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thelovefist
10/23/18 11:45:25 AM
#356:


gunplagirl posted...
CyricZ posted...
Bat22 posted...
^ Just because one country's policies have boarded the crazy train doesn't mean another's should follow suit.

Tell me what's so crazy train about transgender people and their passports.

Remember that one time when the German government revoked all Jewish passports and all replacement ones were required to have a mark indicating that the holder is Jewish?

Trans people, despite years of complaints (and attempted lawsuits that fizzle out without any actual policy change) still get patted down for "anomalies" nearly every time we're in an airport. If we get our gender markers revoked and defaulted, then we'll get flagged not for our genitals but for having breasts. And they'll be checked, in the open, by a tsa agent. Post op ones will definitely be flagged for genitals.

Imagine equating trans gendered persons' situation in the USA with that of Jews in Nazi Germany. Imagine.
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gunplagirl
10/23/18 11:48:11 AM
#357:


Imagine ignoring all the continued parallels that have been ongoing for years now

Imagine being so hateful of trans people that you literally reject reality but are incapable of substituting your own

Kids in cages somehow isn't alarming to you
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thelovefist
10/23/18 11:49:42 AM
#358:


gunplagirl posted...
Imagine ignoring all the continued parallels that have been ongoing for years now

Imagine being so hateful of trans people that you literally reject reality but are incapable of substituting your own

Kids in cages somehow isn't alarming to you


Which continued parallels? What hate? What am I rejecting? Which kids in cages? What the fuck are you talking about?
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gunplagirl
10/23/18 11:50:15 AM
#359:


Imagine not getting that reference
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thelovefist
10/23/18 11:51:10 AM
#360:


Look at this meltdown.
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gunplagirl
10/23/18 11:56:08 AM
#361:


Imagine being so lacking in awareness or the ability to actually make inferences or creativity so you always repeat the same line despite being the one constantly harassing others for the crime of existing
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Southernfatman
10/23/18 11:59:18 AM
#362:


People in the government are wasting time and tax payer money just to appeal to their bigoted constituents. Just terrible.
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thelovefist
10/23/18 11:59:58 AM
#363:


gunplagirl posted...
Imagine being so lacking in awareness or the ability to actually make inferences or creativity so you always repeat the same line despite being the one constantly harassing others for the crime of existing

What harassment?
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gunplagirl
10/23/18 12:06:05 PM
#364:


Southernfatman posted...
People in the government are wasting time and tax payer money just to appeal to their bigoted constituents. Just terrible.

The people in the government are also bigots. They just have a great opportunity to do so now that the SCOTUS is secured, plenty of judicial appointments were filled with people who have a history of siding against LGBT people, and the fact they hold control of the departments in the federal government that are supposed to protect against these policies but nothing can penalize them if they opt to do the exact opposite.
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BJ-blazkowics
10/23/18 12:10:06 PM
#365:


let me guess: fisty is being transophobic again?
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thelovefist
10/23/18 12:11:07 PM
#366:


BJ-blazkowics posted...
let me guess: fisty is being transophobic again?

Shut the fuck up ROD
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Foppe
10/23/18 12:13:15 PM
#367:


Vote on Trump, they said.
He is LGBT- friendly, they said.
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Spam_n_eggs
10/23/18 12:14:05 PM
#368:


Foppe posted...
Vote on Trump, they said.
He is LGBT- friendly, they said.


But he waved the flag!
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Foppe
10/23/18 12:16:43 PM
#369:


Spam_n_eggs posted...
Foppe posted...
Vote on Trump, they said.
He is LGBT- friendly, they said.


But he waved the flag!

He thought it was a free Happy Meal flag.
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spaghetti_house
10/23/18 12:18:34 PM
#370:


thelovefist posted...
While a harsh policy, it is hard to make a counter argument against this policy since it is based upon evidence and facts.

I feel this post is deserving of more attention.
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gunplagirl
10/23/18 12:21:35 PM
#371:


spaghetti_house posted...
thelovefist posted...
While a harsh policy, it is hard to make a counter argument against this policy since it is based upon evidence and facts.

I feel this post is deserving of more attention.

This is actually a policy that would be completely opposite of the agreed upon scientific and medical communities understanding of sex and gender.

It's like if we went back to earth is the center of the universe beliefs, it's outdated and wasn't ever truly the case.
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TrevorBlack79
10/23/18 12:24:26 PM
#372:


Imagine not having lovefist on ignore.
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spaghetti_house
10/23/18 12:27:11 PM
#373:


gunplagirl posted...
spaghetti_house posted...
thelovefist posted...
While a harsh policy, it is hard to make a counter argument against this policy since it is based upon evidence and facts.

I feel this post is deserving of more attention.

This is actually a policy that would be completely opposite of the agreed upon scientific and medical communities understanding of sex and gender.

It's like if we went back to earth is the center of the universe beliefs, it's outdated and wasn't ever truly the case.

If you're comparing the challenges that trans gendered people face in the USA today to those of the challenges that the Jews faced in Nazi Germany (as you did in post 355) than I would be skeptical that you have a firm grasp of what the "agreed upon scientific and medical communities understanding of sex and gender is". In fact, I would contend that you are unlikely to have a firm grasp on the concept of what a scientific or medical community is.

TrevorBlack79 posted...
Imagine not having lovefist on ignore.

Imagine being you.
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scar the 1
10/23/18 12:28:38 PM
#374:


thelovefist posted...
Imagine equating trans gendered persons' situation in the USA with that of Jews in Nazi Germany. Imagine.

Well in this case the comparison is called for. So eh
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thelovefist
10/23/18 12:28:56 PM
#375:


scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
Imagine equating trans gendered persons' situation in the USA with that of Jews in Nazi Germany. Imagine.

Well in this case the comparison is called for. So eh

Lol get the fuck out of here.
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TrevorBlack79
10/23/18 12:29:01 PM
#376:


spaghetti_house posted...
Imagine being you.


It's pretty awesome.
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scar the 1
10/23/18 12:29:51 PM
#377:


thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
Imagine equating trans gendered persons' situation in the USA with that of Jews in Nazi Germany. Imagine.

Well in this case the comparison is called for. So eh

Lol get the fuck out of here.

You're very convincing.
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thelovefist
10/23/18 12:33:18 PM
#379:


scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
Imagine equating trans gendered persons' situation in the USA with that of Jews in Nazi Germany. Imagine.

Well in this case the comparison is called for. So eh

Lol get the fuck out of here.

You're very convincing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
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scar the 1
10/23/18 12:38:11 PM
#380:


thelovefist posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

From your link:

Germany implemented the persecution in stages. Following Adolf Hitler's rise to power in 1933, the government passed laws to exclude Jews from civil society, most prominently the Nuremberg Laws in 1935.

What Trump is proposing is to pass laws to exclude transgender people from society.
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BJ-blazkowics
10/23/18 12:38:26 PM
#381:


spaghetti_house posted...
thelovefist posted...
While a harsh policy, it is hard to make a counter argument against this policy since it is based upon evidence and facts.

I feel this post is deserving of more attention.


Imagine quoting thelovefist.

Spaghetti, in case you didn't know, fisty is very, very transophobic.

Edit - also, why did you just request to follow me?
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BJ-blazkowics
10/23/18 12:39:04 PM
#382:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Imagine not having lovefist on ignore.


well said!!!

10/10 post
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thelovefist
10/23/18 12:39:06 PM
#383:


scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

From your link:

Germany implemented the persecution in stages. Following Adolf Hitler's rise to power in 1933, the government passed laws to exclude Jews from civil society, most prominently the Nuremberg Laws in 1935.

What Trump is proposing is to pass laws to exclude transgender people from society.

Their citizenships are being revoked are they?

Again, lol get the fuck out of here.
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BJ-blazkowics
10/23/18 12:40:18 PM
#384:


lovefist's meltdown is so bad that even I can see it despite having him on ignore.

Real question: why does he HATE trans so much? It makes me think he had a hangover 2 style encounter with one
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spaghetti_house
10/23/18 12:41:50 PM
#385:


@BJ-blazkowics posted...
spaghetti_house posted...
thelovefist posted...
While a harsh policy, it is hard to make a counter argument against this policy since it is based upon evidence and facts.

I feel this post is deserving of more attention.


Imagine quoting thelovefist.

Spaghetti, in case you didn't know, fisty is very, very transophobic.


Is he? Tell me more.
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spaghetti_house
10/23/18 12:43:48 PM
#386:


@BJ-blazkowics posted...
lovefist's meltdown is so bad that even I can see it despite having him on ignore.

Real question: why does he HATE trans so much? It makes me think he had a hangover 2 style encounter with one

What has he said that makes you think he hates trans gendered people?
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BJ-blazkowics
10/23/18 12:44:15 PM
#387:


spaghetti_house posted...
@BJ-blazkowics posted...
spaghetti_house posted...
thelovefist posted...
While a harsh policy, it is hard to make a counter argument against this policy since it is based upon evidence and facts.

I feel this post is deserving of more attention.


Imagine quoting thelovefist.

Spaghetti, in case you didn't know, fisty is very, very transophobic.


Is he? Tell me more.


Well, look at this topic. Ask several trans posters in CE, he haaaaatttteeessss trans for some reason. Trans CE posters, feel free to chime in.

Rumor has it he was dating a trans CEman called ROD and ROD didn't tell him, until one day he saw ROD's.... excitement. He became obsessed with ROD ever since and calls people ROD randomly.
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spaghetti_house
10/23/18 12:47:07 PM
#388:


@BJ-blazkowics posted...
Rumor has it he was dating a trans CEman called ROD and ROD didn't tell him, until one day he saw ROD's.... excitement. He became obsessed with ROD ever since and calls people ROD randomly.


Wow I didn't know ROD was trans gendered. I know ROD use to complain a lot about the 'alt left'. Do you know anything about that?
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thelovefist
10/23/18 12:51:08 PM
#389:


BJ-blazkowics posted...
Rumor has it he was dating a trans CEman called ROD and ROD didn't tell him, until one day he saw ROD's.... excitement. He became obsessed with ROD ever since and calls people ROD randomly.


lolwut
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scar the 1
10/23/18 1:43:17 PM
#390:


thelovefist posted...
Their citizenships are being revoked are they?

Again, lol get the f*** out of here.

There's a risk of that happening if this line of legislation is entertained, yeah
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thelovefist
10/23/18 2:55:24 PM
#391:


scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
Their citizenships are being revoked are they?

Again, lol get the f*** out of here.

There's a risk of that happening if this line of legislation is entertained, yeah

Slippery slope fallacy. Comparing this to the Nuremberg Laws is laughable hysteria.
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BJ-blazkowics
10/23/18 3:01:55 PM
#392:


let me guess - more transophobic posts from fisty?
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scar the 1
10/23/18 3:05:09 PM
#393:


thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
Their citizenships are being revoked are they?

Again, lol get the f*** out of here.

There's a risk of that happening if this line of legislation is entertained, yeah

Slippery slope fallacy. Comparing this to the Nuremberg Laws is laughable hysteria.

No, it's not a slippery slope fallacy. If what was in the memo is enacted, around 1.4 million US citizens would no longer be federally recognized as citizens. This is an aggressive proposal.
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thelovefist
10/23/18 3:05:52 PM
#394:


Post 392 reported for harassment
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thelovefist
10/23/18 3:08:11 PM
#395:


scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
Their citizenships are being revoked are they?

Again, lol get the f*** out of here.

There's a risk of that happening if this line of legislation is entertained, yeah

Slippery slope fallacy. Comparing this to the Nuremberg Laws is laughable hysteria.

No, it's not a slippery slope fallacy. If what was in the memo is enacted, around 1.4 million US citizens would no longer be federally recognized as citizens. This is an aggressive proposal.

Please cite where it says that their citizenship would be revoked.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/23/18 3:09:58 PM
#396:


thelovefist posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...
Rumor has it he was dating a trans CEman called ROD and ROD didn't tell him, until one day he saw ROD's.... excitement. He became obsessed with ROD ever since and calls people ROD randomly.


lolwut


Notice how this isn't a denial ;)
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thelovefist
10/23/18 3:11:51 PM
#397:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
thelovefist posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...
Rumor has it he was dating a trans CEman called ROD and ROD didn't tell him, until one day he saw ROD's.... excitement. He became obsessed with ROD ever since and calls people ROD randomly.


lolwut


Notice how this isn't a denial ;)

Does that seem like a believable thing to you?
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scar the 1
10/23/18 3:26:38 PM
#398:


thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
Their citizenships are being revoked are they?

Again, lol get the f*** out of here.

There's a risk of that happening if this line of legislation is entertained, yeah

Slippery slope fallacy. Comparing this to the Nuremberg Laws is laughable hysteria.

No, it's not a slippery slope fallacy. If what was in the memo is enacted, around 1.4 million US citizens would no longer be federally recognized as citizens. This is an aggressive proposal.

Please cite where it says that their citizenship would be revoked.

Don't act dense.
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/23/18 3:35:10 PM
#399:


all this name calling.
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thelovefist
10/23/18 3:38:47 PM
#400:


scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
Their citizenships are being revoked are they?

Again, lol get the f*** out of here.

There's a risk of that happening if this line of legislation is entertained, yeah

Slippery slope fallacy. Comparing this to the Nuremberg Laws is laughable hysteria.

No, it's not a slippery slope fallacy. If what was in the memo is enacted, around 1.4 million US citizens would no longer be federally recognized as citizens. This is an aggressive proposal.

Please cite where it says that their citizenship would be revoked.

Don't act dense.

I deny the existence of this. You are saying it does exist but are unable to identify how it is.
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BJ-blazkowics
10/23/18 3:40:10 PM
#401:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
thelovefist posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...
Rumor has it he was dating a trans CEman called ROD and ROD didn't tell him, until one day he saw ROD's.... excitement. He became obsessed with ROD ever since and calls people ROD randomly.


lolwut


Notice how this isn't a denial ;)


yeah it would explain his obsession with that ROD guy.
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scar the 1
10/23/18 3:50:18 PM
#402:


thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
Their citizenships are being revoked are they?

Again, lol get the f*** out of here.

There's a risk of that happening if this line of legislation is entertained, yeah

Slippery slope fallacy. Comparing this to the Nuremberg Laws is laughable hysteria.

No, it's not a slippery slope fallacy. If what was in the memo is enacted, around 1.4 million US citizens would no longer be federally recognized as citizens. This is an aggressive proposal.

Please cite where it says that their citizenship would be revoked.

Don't act dense.

I deny the existence of this. You are saying it does exist but are unable to identify how it is.

Trans people are already having issues renewing their passports. When 1.4 million transgender people suddenly have invalid passports, what do you think will happen? Will the administration suddenly make a 180 and start caring about them again?
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Spam_n_eggs
10/23/18 3:54:03 PM
#403:


scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...
thelovefist posted...
scar the 1 posted...

There's a risk of that happening if this line of legislation is entertained, yeah

Slippery slope fallacy. Comparing this to the Nuremberg Laws is laughable hysteria.

No, it's not a slippery slope fallacy. If what was in the memo is enacted, around 1.4 million US citizens would no longer be federally recognized as citizens. This is an aggressive proposal.

Please cite where it says that their citizenship would be revoked.

Don't act dense.

I deny the existence of this. You are saying it does exist but are unable to identify how it is.

Trans people are already having issues renewing their passports. When 1.4 million transgender people suddenly have invalid passports, what do you think will happen? Will the administration suddenly make a 180 and start caring about them again?


Yeah they would have no way to prove theyre citizens
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GiftedACIII
10/23/18 3:56:29 PM
#404:


Hothfist really dialing up his hoth tactics in this topic. Quoting himself on his alt and using it like it's another person. Pretty unhinged.
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Spam_n_eggs
10/23/18 4:04:19 PM
#405:


GiftedACIII posted...
Hothfist really dialing up his hoth tactics in this topic. Quoting himself on his alt and using it like it's another person. Pretty unhinged.


Who is his alt?
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