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UnfairRepresent
10/21/18 10:15:38 AM
#51:


KStateKing17 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Wtf is "pushing gay marriage so quickly" supposed to mean?

A) the decision was made by the Supreme Court

Answered your own question.

Simple yes or no question:

If the Supreme Court decided to make Abortion federally illegal again next month. Would you deny that they did it quickly?

The fact they're doing it at all is stupid

Agreed but that's not a yes or no.

Stop deflecting.
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Doom_Art
10/21/18 10:16:41 AM
#52:


UnfairRepresent posted...
And you intentionally cowardly ducked the question because you're dishonest.

Nah, I just know that trying to argue or seriously engage with you is a waste of time.

I may as well go have a debate with my wall lol
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UnfairRepresent
10/21/18 10:25:22 AM
#53:


"I have no argument so I will insult you."

Says it all really.
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KStateKing17
10/21/18 10:26:13 AM
#54:


UnfairRepresent posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Wtf is "pushing gay marriage so quickly" supposed to mean?

A) the decision was made by the Supreme Court

Answered your own question.

Simple yes or no question:

If the Supreme Court decided to make Abortion federally illegal again next month. Would you deny that they did it quickly?

The fact they're doing it at all is stupid

Agreed but that's not a yes or no.

Stop deflecting.

I'm deflecting but you brought up abortion in a topic about a gamer's opinion on gay marriage getting him kicked out? Alright
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UnfairRepresent
10/21/18 10:30:14 AM
#55:


KStateKing17 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Wtf is "pushing gay marriage so quickly" supposed to mean?

A) the decision was made by the Supreme Court

Answered your own question.

Simple yes or no question:

If the Supreme Court decided to make Abortion federally illegal again next month. Would you deny that they did it quickly?

The fact they're doing it at all is stupid

Agreed but that's not a yes or no.

Stop deflecting.

I'm deflecting

Yes

but you brought up abortion in a topic about a gamer's opinion on gay marriage getting him kicked out? Alright

No.

It was brought up to someone saying "How is the supreme court making something federally legal "quick" just because several states and over a hundred million people oppose it!?"

And then it becomes relevant, "okay what if the Supreme Court did the same thing to something you oppose. Would you deny that they did it quick?"

And you're too afraid to go "Yeah that's true, they did do it quicky." Because then you concede that Boogie has a point, and you're too dishonest to do that.
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Doom_Art
10/21/18 10:30:46 AM
#56:


UnfairRepresent posted...
"I have no argument so I will insult you."

"I'm upset that I'm not getting my pointless argument fill ITT" - Unfair

Don't you ever get bored of this :P
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SaithSayer
10/21/18 10:32:34 AM
#57:


KStateKing17 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Wtf is "pushing gay marriage so quickly" supposed to mean?

A) the decision was made by the Supreme Court

Answered your own question.

Simple yes or no question:

If the Supreme Court decided to make Abortion federally illegal again next month. Would you deny that they did it quickly?

The fact they're doing it at all is stupid

Agreed but that's not a yes or no.

Stop deflecting.

I'm deflecting but you brought up abortion in a topic about a gamer's opinion on gay marriage getting him kicked out? Alright

Yes you are the hypothetical was just to illustrate a point and you ignored that the issue is about how quickly something was done.
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prettyprincess
10/21/18 10:37:38 AM
#58:


one granted a right not previously available to a group people and the other would be overturning (in a shorter amount of time) a right recently granted so, yes, you can answer those differently in terms of decision timing, which doesnt even factor in the importance of granting vs restricting an individuals rights into the argument
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UnfairRepresent
10/21/18 10:40:22 AM
#59:


prettyprincess posted...
one granted a right not previously available to a group people and the other would be overturning (in a shorter amount of time) a right recently granted so, yes, you can answer those differently in terms of decision timing, which doesnt even factor in the importance of granting vs restricting an individuals rights into the argument


That's utter bullshit and you know it. It would be quick if the Supreme Court made dramatic federal rulings on contenious state issues regardless of what semantics to use to describe the "groups"

This is what I mean, you're just too cowardly and dishonest to answer truthfully because you know the truth concede's Boogie Stance isn't as black and white as you imply it to be.

"It would be less violent if States legalized gay marriage one by one and not federally quickly at once." is not the unreasonable stance you pretend it to be.
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Doom_Art
10/21/18 10:41:50 AM
#60:


Unfair if I mentioned God of War ITT would you completely flip out?
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KStateKing17
10/21/18 10:42:11 AM
#61:


UnfairRepresent posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Wtf is "pushing gay marriage so quickly" supposed to mean?

A) the decision was made by the Supreme Court

Answered your own question.

Simple yes or no question:

If the Supreme Court decided to make Abortion federally illegal again next month. Would you deny that they did it quickly?

The fact they're doing it at all is stupid

Agreed but that's not a yes or no.

Stop deflecting.

I'm deflecting

Yes

but you brought up abortion in a topic about a gamer's opinion on gay marriage getting him kicked out? Alright

No.

It was brought up to someone saying "How is the supreme court making something federally legal "quick" just because several states and over a hundred million people oppose it!?"

And then it becomes relevant, "okay what if the Supreme Court did the same thing to something you oppose. Would you deny that they did it quick?"

And you're too afraid to go "Yeah that's true, they did do it quicky." Because then you concede that Boogie has a point, and you're too dishonest to do that.

What point? There are legit medical reasons why women get abortions. Making that illegal just because of your beliefs potentially jeopardizes the health of many women and there isn't a right time to make it illegal. People are going to be hateful about gay marriage just like some people still hate interracial marriage.

I'm not saying at all he should have been banned just for that, but the idea that it's not the "right time" for two consenting adults to get married because of other people's feelings is dumb.
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prettyprincess
10/21/18 10:42:17 AM
#62:


if you dont understand how time works then just say that
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ScazarMeltex
10/21/18 10:44:13 AM
#63:


UnfairRepresent posted...
prettyprincess posted...
one granted a right not previously available to a group people and the other would be overturning (in a shorter amount of time) a right recently granted so, yes, you can answer those differently in terms of decision timing, which doesnt even factor in the importance of granting vs restricting an individuals rights into the argument


That's utter bullshit and you know it. It would be quick if the Supreme Court made dramatic federal rulings on contenious state issues regardless of what semantics to use to describe the "groups"

This is what I mean, you're just too cowardly and dishonest to answer truthfully because you know the truth concede's Boogie Stance isn't as black and white as you imply it to be.

"It would be less violent if States legalized gay marriage one by one and not federally quickly at once." is not the unreasonable stance you pretend it to be.

It's completely unreasonable because you are still in favor of treating people like subhuman degenerates not deserving the same rights as other human beings because some assholes might get violent over it. You should be attacking the violence rather than denying the rights of other human beings.
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UnfairRepresent
10/21/18 10:47:28 AM
#64:


ScazarMeltex posted...

It's completely unreasonable because you are still in favor of treating people like subhuman degenerates not deserving the same rights as other human beings because some assholes might get violent over it. You should be attacking the violence rather than denying the rights of other human beings.

I agree.

I think ensuring equal rights for everyone is one of the reasons we even have a federal government and I really don't like the idea of cowering before the violent crazies and empowering them.

But that's not the stance people were taking. People were arguing that Boogie is lying when he's saying the decision was quick rather than letting it propser of the course of years.

I'd say me and you are looking it for a prinicpal standpoint.
Boogie is looking at it from a pratical standpoint
And DomArt's ilk are looking at it from an emotional standpoint.

IE:

The prinicpal is worth the blood and lives lost.
The prinicpal is not worth the blood and lives lost.
OMg ur stupid fuck off idiot poopface fat idiot I'm not going to even talk to you because ur dumb!
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Doom_Art
10/21/18 10:48:23 AM
#65:


Wow look at Unfair go lol

I wonder if he gets off to this sort of thing :P
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prettyprincess
10/21/18 10:48:55 AM
#66:


UnfairRepresent posted...
People were arguing that Boogie is lying

no, they said he was wrong about it
you can be honestly incorrect
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UnfairRepresent
10/21/18 10:49:14 AM
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Thank you for demonstrating that point perfectly.
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ScazarMeltex
10/21/18 10:52:26 AM
#68:


UnfairRepresent posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...

It's completely unreasonable because you are still in favor of treating people like subhuman degenerates not deserving the same rights as other human beings because some assholes might get violent over it. You should be attacking the violence rather than denying the rights of other human beings.

I agree.

I think ensuring equal rights for everyone is one of the reasons we even have a federal government and I really don't like the idea of cowering before the violent crazies and empowering them.

But that's not the stance people were taking. People were arguing that Boogie is lying when he's saying the decision was quick rather than letting it prosper of the course of years.

I'd say me and you are looking it for a prinicpal standpoint.
Boogie is looking at it from a pratical standpoint
And DomArt's ilk are looking at it from an emotional standpoint.

IE:

The prinicpal is worth the blood and lives lost.
The prinicpal is not worth the blood and lives lost.
OMg ur stupid fuck off idiot poopface fat idiot I'm not going to even talk to you because ur dumb!


I agree, but I think boogie is simply being disingenuous. The exact same argument could have been over every single major civil rights decision that ever happened in this country.Take for example The civil rights act or The Brown V. Board of Education decision. History has shown that most major changes like that have to be forced on a population for them to be effective.
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UnfairRepresent
10/21/18 10:54:43 AM
#69:


ScazarMeltex posted...

I agree, but I think boogie is simply being disingenuous. The exact same argument could have been over every single major civil rights decision that ever happened in this country. Women voting, blacks voting, The Brown V. Board of Education decision. History has shown that most major changes like that have to be forced on a population for them to be effective.

And Boogie probably would have said the same thing

He's an infamous passive fence sitter, who wants liberal social attitudes but doesn't want to force them or have conflict.

He's the kind of guy Malcolm X wanted people to kill.
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Doom_Art
10/21/18 10:55:20 AM
#70:


@UnfairRepresent

God of War for the PS4 is very good
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LeoRyan
10/21/18 10:58:20 AM
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Burgess
10/21/18 11:00:11 AM
#72:


LeoRyan posted...
The wall just got ten feet higher.


Got a lot heavier too for some reason.
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masticatingman
10/21/18 11:26:26 AM
#73:


Marriage equality is pretty much one of those things the Supreme Court more or less had to go ahead and push through to completion. Matter fact is, the population at large is not really gonna care about whether or not gay/lesbians can get married. Yeah, the LGBT population when you include bisexuals or bicurious folks is fairly significant (especially when looking at women that experiment), but when you get down to actual marriage-thinking gays/lesbians, those numbers drop pretty dramatically. You might be talking about 5% of the adult population at most at that point, if not less. That's enough of a minority position that it can be difficult to get invested in the issue from afar.
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Prestoff
10/21/18 11:31:11 AM
#74:


That's not really a meltdown and I feel that some people got the wrong impression about Boogie. He's not anti-gay, he's pro-gay marriage and has been since he stated his opinion on it years ago. He just believes that it shouldn't be forced and rather have it gain acceptance over time.

Now the only problem I have with his opinion on that is that a lot of the social movements in history has shown that forcing it was the most effective way in getting any changes done. Let's say hypothetically that he's right that some time in the future gay marriage would've been effectively been acceptable in society, but who says that there would be less blood shed and violence during those times vs. modern time when the decision was forced? Throughout those times when gay marriage is illegal, do you really think that there wouldn't be people like antifa using violence to get their way? During that time do you really think that less blood shed would've been spilled for people getting treated as a mental illness, as not even being a full human but a sub human? We can play hypotheticals and prediction games all we want but history speaks for itself. Hell I think the biggest disagreement I have with Boogies statement is that we should not be making decisions based off threats of violence. If our decisions started getting made like that, it would lead to a very bad precedent.
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Shiek120
10/21/18 11:34:08 AM
#75:


I'm torn on Boogie. He was doing videos with that recent girl as his Francis character, "on a date with her" but it was clear he was projecting his wishes and desires to be on a date with her, and saying things he wishes he could actually say

He doesn't appear to be stable and instead of seeking help he just continues to make mistakes, blame his mental health for said mistakes without actually taking any action. Boogie needs to OWN his actions and statements.
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X-Pac_Heat
10/21/18 11:35:51 AM
#76:


Doom_Art posted...
Wtf is "pushing gay marriage so quickly" supposed to mean?

A) the decision was made by the Supreme Court
B) the decision was made over 3 years ago now

I don't really follow Boogie drama but I've seen him do shit like this before. Holds a really stupid/uniformed opinion, hides behind being "moderate", and whines when people call his stupid opinion out.


Not defending Boogies stance or anything

But the argument I have heard others use is that gay marriage literally never made it through voting anywhere. Not even in the leftist utopias of the west coast.

And then the Supreme Court just pushed it through anyways.

That's how it was "pushed through too quickly"
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UnfairRepresent
10/21/18 11:40:54 AM
#77:


X-Pac_Heat posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Wtf is "pushing gay marriage so quickly" supposed to mean?

A) the decision was made by the Supreme Court
B) the decision was made over 3 years ago now

I don't really follow Boogie drama but I've seen him do shit like this before. Holds a really stupid/uniformed opinion, hides behind being "moderate", and whines when people call his stupid opinion out.


Not defending Boogies stance or anything

But the argument I have heard others use is that gay marriage literally never made it through voting anywhere. Not even in the leftist utopias of the west coast.

And then the Supreme Court just pushed it through anyways.

That's how it was "pushed through too quickly"

Doom knows that, he's been intentionally ignoring it the whole topic while insulting people.
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LeoRyan
10/21/18 11:41:31 AM
#78:


UnfairRepresent posted...
X-Pac_Heat posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Wtf is "pushing gay marriage so quickly" supposed to mean?

A) the decision was made by the Supreme Court
B) the decision was made over 3 years ago now

I don't really follow Boogie drama but I've seen him do shit like this before. Holds a really stupid/uniformed opinion, hides behind being "moderate", and whines when people call his stupid opinion out.


Not defending Boogies stance or anything

But the argument I have heard others use is that gay marriage literally never made it through voting anywhere. Not even in the leftist utopias of the west coast.

And then the Supreme Court just pushed it through anyways.

That's how it was "pushed through too quickly"

Doom knows that, he's been intentionally ignoring it the whole topic while insulting people.

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Doom_Art
10/21/18 11:42:18 AM
#79:


UnfairRepresent posted...
he's been intentionally ignoring it the whole topic while insulting people.

That's what you do tho
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Cookie Bag
10/21/18 11:48:39 AM
#81:


>Not having UR on ignore
>arguing with the guy that is known to shitpost and be a contrarian to stir shit

Must be a day that ends in y on CE
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X-Pac_Heat
10/21/18 11:49:48 AM
#82:


Oh Doom is shitposting UR?

My bad, didn't see that lol
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nesplayer
10/21/18 12:09:58 PM
#83:


LGTB and DnD?

I thought only asexuals played DnD
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UnfairRepresent
10/21/18 12:13:43 PM
#84:


nesplayer posted...
LGTB and DnD?

I thought only asexuals played DnD

Remember that belt in Baldur's Gate that swtiches your sex?

I used to always make Imeon wear it as a joke because I didn't like her but the game fucks you over if you don't start with a rogue from early.
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looked
10/21/18 12:24:43 PM
#85:


He may have had a bad take on gay marriage, but he is in favor of it. Yet they have turned on him as if he is some hateful bigot. You really have to ask yourself if these people are worth your support.
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Spam_n_eggs
10/21/18 1:18:08 PM
#86:


@X-Pac_Heat posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Wtf is "pushing gay marriage so quickly" supposed to mean?

A) the decision was made by the Supreme Court
B) the decision was made over 3 years ago now

I don't really follow Boogie drama but I've seen him do shit like this before. Holds a really stupid/uniformed opinion, hides behind being "moderate", and whines when people call his stupid opinion out.


Not defending Boogies stance or anything

But the argument I have heard others use is that gay marriage literally never made it through voting anywhere. Not even in the leftist utopias of the west coast.

And then the Supreme Court just pushed it through anyways.

That's how it was "pushed through too quickly"


Ah yes, nice job of pretending to be a reasonable poster, but the part in bold gave you away.

Since when is a constitutional interpretation subject to ballot voting? You dont understand how things work.

If someone sues the state because they think that cats qualify under the discrimination clause, the lawsuit is tried and then it the losing party wants to, appealed all the way to SCOTUS, who decided whether to pick it or not.

You dont put out a ballot for voting as of whether cats qualify.

But hey, lets play the game. Have any of the sessions DOJ policy changes gone through a ballot? Hmmmm?
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Spam_n_eggs
10/21/18 1:20:04 PM
#87:


LeoRyan posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
X-Pac_Heat posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Wtf is "pushing gay marriage so quickly" supposed to mean?

A) the decision was made by the Supreme Court
B) the decision was made over 3 years ago now

I don't really follow Boogie drama but I've seen him do shit like this before. Holds a really stupid/uniformed opinion, hides behind being "moderate", and whines when people call his stupid opinion out.


Not defending Boogies stance or anything

But the argument I have heard others use is that gay marriage literally never made it through voting anywhere. Not even in the leftist utopias of the west coast.

And then the Supreme Court just pushed it through anyways.

That's how it was "pushed through too quickly"

Doom knows that, he's been intentionally ignoring it the whole topic while insulting people.


Doom is in an intellectual level you two cant even fathom
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FightingGames
10/21/18 1:28:48 PM
#88:


boogie2988 literally did nothing wrong
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CanuckCowboy
10/21/18 1:30:52 PM
#89:


Jaghave posted...
BigSmoke2988 posted...
nje0ECk

2dPr3FS

w9KG8fo

"I can't believe they are treating ME this way after everything I went through for them."

Me Me MEEEEEE!


When did individualism became a bad thing?


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Shinobi120
10/21/18 1:52:38 PM
#90:


I used to respect Boogie until I found out that he was a right-wing, KKK supporting nut.

Screw him.
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Spam_n_eggs
10/21/18 2:01:24 PM
#91:


Shinobi120 posted...
I used to respect Boogie until I found out that he was a right-wing, KKK supporting nut.

Screw him.


He is? For real?

Just like Johntron?

Whats with fatsos with bad facial hair being bigots?
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berlyman101
10/21/18 2:12:19 PM
#92:


Wait, he thinks gay marriage legalization led to violence? News to me
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Anteaterking
10/21/18 2:28:29 PM
#93:


UnfairRepresent posted...
If the Supreme Court decided to make Abortion federally illegal again next month. Would you deny that they did it quickly?


No. What would make it quick?
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Zikten
10/21/18 2:31:18 PM
#94:


boogie is not in the KKK. he just poorly worded something. he isn't anti gay or anti black. the internet just likes to rush to judgement anytime someone makes a mistake
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Xavius
10/21/18 2:42:33 PM
#95:


He's right. Gay Marriage should never have been allowed like this. The majority of people did not want this and it was only done by force. How can anyone defend the LBGT movement for this? Reverse Gay Marriage.
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Tyranthraxus
10/21/18 4:40:25 PM
#96:


Xavius posted...
He's right. Gay Marriage should never have been allowed like this. The majority of people did not want this and it was only done by force. How can anyone defend the LBGT movement for this? Reverse Gay Marriage.

Lmao brilliant post
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Joeydollaz
10/21/18 4:41:54 PM
#97:


He needs to he Francis in real life
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ColdOne666
10/21/18 4:42:54 PM
#98:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Balnazarr posted...

Joke post. When is the right time? 10-15 years? Never? You and Boogie are implying it;'s their fault for wanting to be married and that they should hae waited.

When did Boogie ever imply that it's a gay dude's fault crazy people are crazy?

You're rambling.

Balnazarr posted...
There will never in our lifetimes be a day in which people are fine with LGBT. I ask why should they have to wait?


You say with a straight face despite the fact people have been getting progressively more gay friendly in the west every month for the past 85 years.

You're too young to understand this but the gay rights movement was hated and tiny in the 40s-60s and in the 70s-90s it was growing but still hated by the vast majority of the population.

It was only the advent of modern day internet that turned the tide in the late 90s. When people older than you were growing up, they were doing so in enviroments where the majority of the population opposed equal rights for gays

In your lifetime the majority of the population now supports equal rights for gays.

and youre saying this growth is going to go backwards, not forwards? Based on what?


Waaaaaaaaah
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catboy0_0
10/21/18 4:42:59 PM
#99:


BigSmoke2988 posted...
He said he thought gay marriage shouldn't have been pushed through.

yiiiiikes
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Zikten
10/21/18 4:46:45 PM
#100:


catboy0_0 posted...
yiiiiikes

he meant so fast. he doesnt oppose it. he thinks it happened too fast for our culture. I dont know if i agree with that, but he's not as evil as people are making it sound
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