Poll of the Day > Husker du is the best punk band ever. fight me i dont care

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cause you cant prove me wrong.

Nofx and op ivy for me

I like those bands. Operation Ivy is classic and nofx is fun to jam to sometimes. i love free jukebox night at the bar because I use that as an excuse to play "the decline" because nobody expects the decline.

seventeen minutes later /spongebob

Though that reminds me, I went to this bar I have played the decline at before, and it wasnt on the list when i would search Nofx or the decline last time i was out. it must have been removed somehow

Now what I should have done is attempted to find the closing track of my favorite album of all time, Zen Arcade by Husker Du. Its a repetitive 14 minute instrumental!

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i like less than jake because ive met some of them

i never got super in to them but i saw them live once. was cool. people were skankin hard as fuck for em

LaggnFragnLarry posted...

i like less than jake because ive met some of them

If were including ska bands then reel big fish and streetlight too.

Ska and punk are my shit

RBF was the second band I ever fell in love with, after the offspring. they still jam today and first 4 albums or so are classics.

Streetlight is a classic band as well however while their first album is an all-time classic I never got much into anything else. even the keasbey night remake. I like it, but I prefer the original.

My favorite ska band overall might be The Mighty Mighty Bosstones though.

Husker du is great, but DEVO is the best punk band ever.
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never really got into the new wave side of things, though the devo songs i recall(hits like whip it and such) are pretty good.

argonautweakend posted...

My favorite ska band overall might be The Mighty Mighty Bosstones though.

Hey, you're pretty alright, TC.

ROYAL OIL
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argonautweakend posted...

RBF was the second band I ever fell in love with, after the offspring. they still jam today and first 4 albums or so are classics.

Streetlight is a classic band as well however while their first album is an all-time classic I never got much into anything else. even the keasbey night remake. I like it, but I prefer the original.

Streetlight only has four albums and theyre all absolutely incredible. There is really no other band like them. Their most recent album the hands that thieve is easily my favorite. Not really that recent though, came out almost six years ago now.

argonautweakend posted...

My favorite ska band overall might be The Mighty Mighty Bosstones though.

I like some mighty mighty bosstones songs, but theyre not even in my top five for ska bands. I love the planet smashers, suburban legends, mustard plug, buck-o-nine, no doubt, and save Ferris all more than them. And as previously stated reel big fish, streetlight, and less than jake.

The Offspring
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And the aquabats. Cant believe they slipped my mind.

The fact that there's this many people who listen to ska on here makes me giddy.

The Toasters are pretty good if you've never scoped em out.
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argonautweakend posted...

never really got into the new wave side of things, though the devo songs i recall(hits like whip it and such) are pretty good.

Devo was pretty subversive and had the diy mentality. Also they would often bait their audiences into getting pissed off at them by playing the same bit of music for extended periods of time. They were punk that was outside of the public perception of what punk is. Whip It basically cemented them as a new wave novelty act though.
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husker du's

husker don'ts

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Anyway, as for ska what kind era do people prefer around here? I always liked Two-Tone, but third wave is fine.
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

Anyway, as for ska what kind era do people prefer around here? I always liked Two-Tone, but third wave is fine.

Third wave, but I love two tone too.

yeah i dont know what it is i just never have been able to enjoy other streetlight albums nearly as much as their first.

and that makes sense about divo maybe i should check em out. rugrats soundtrack was tight though. But no, that really sounds interesting. reminds me of a story i heard about the band The replacements.

They were at I think a country venue, so they had country fans and punk fans. They would play country covers at first so the punk crowd that gathered by the stage would be pissed off and be replaced by country music fans, and as soon as they got to the front and were enjoying it they would play punk again.

ive listened to most of that list there mike cole and one thing i noticed is ive never listened to suburban legends or buck oh nine(sounds like the price of a can of skoal in 1992) but i totally should since ive heard of them.

i listen to a decent bit of ska but i am lacking. the only band in that list i routinely listen to is save ferris but its been a while so i should revisit the others.

There used to be a user on CE around...the mid 00s or so called SKAISAWESOME and well, he seriously loved ska. But not so much 3rd wave as it was the original sound and two tone.

he was in college, he hosted a radio show and i got him to play "american jesus" by bad religion and "the decline" by nofx one time it was cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFNJqgcAq4g" data-time="

My favorite buck o nine song

Suburban legends used to play at Disneyland so they do a shit ton of Ska Disney covers and theyre all awesome.

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Thats from their newest album

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And thats the duck tales theme song

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And listen to this streetlight song.. give them another chance because theyre p4p the best ska band there is

those songs were pretty good. and i dont mind that streetlight manifesto song i just dont like it as much as stuff on their first album is all.

Husker Du is pretty cool

but NoMeansNo get stops spot in punk for me. only good thing to come out of this stupid 'city' i live in
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theyre pretty good

got me some new powerviolence to listen to at some point. "'87-'93" by No Comment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkro7Vkdo2I" data-time="&start=452

37 tracks in 50 minutes. these songs are too damn long.

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Man I never got into punk, though I love hardcore punk and all the subgenres. Is there any punk band/album/song(s) you would recommend for someone to get them in the door? I found some pretty cool bands watching hate5six on youtube but they are mostly hardcore with some punk here and there.
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Not sure what youre asking for. I would have just recd some hardcore(bad brains, minor threat etc) punk but...i think you already know of hardcore. Its hard to just rec some punk because like metal theres a hundred styles.

I prefer Husker Don't

You dont remember?

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argonautweakend posted...

Not sure what youre asking for. I would have just recd some hardcore(bad brains, minor threat etc) punk but...i think you already know of hardcore. Its hard to just rec some punk because like metal theres a hundred styles.

Surely there is such a thing as straight up punk rock. That's what I meant.
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Mead posted...

The Offspring

Yeah, boi
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not really. but i will rec a bunch of albums later of different styles

Well, im going to conjure up a list of albums I'd recommend from various punk styles here. I could go on and on but Im trying to limit this to the really good stuff. I'm going to go in alphabetical order by band name(then album year of release if multiple albums) because thats how im sorting the list in my music player program thingy.

American Football/self titled/1999/emo/Urbana, IL



Emo might not be what you think it is. It started in the mid-1980s with the band Rites of Spring, because their songs fit under the hardcore punk banner, but at times they slowed it down, the lyrics were more introspective, and the vocals were more impassioned than heard before, though the lead singer of this band has said he doesnt agree his music is somehow more emotional than other types of punk at the time, but it does sound like it with the vocal delivery that sounds like Guy Piciotto(im:https://imgur.com/zi0ol4y) is broken and this is his release.

This album is different from Rites of Spring in many ways. The production is perfect. It sounds organic, but it doesn't sound overproduced. Sonically though, it's a treat for your ears, and it isn't really like other bands of the past that had more of an emotional hardcore sound, so the temp isn't super fast. It has elements of precise musicianship not found in most punk subgenres.

Now, this album comes from a mid-late 00s revival of sorts of Emo. I cannot use the word twinkly to describe this band or album even though I want to, because in doing so would conjure up memories of the "end" of the lifespan of emo. Yes, bands exist today in this same format, but once it started getting popular in the late 90s, the meaning of the term changed. It no longer was a punk subgenre started by accident in the mid 80s in Washington, D.C. and instead it had become related with MTV. As far as I see it, the term got more widely used, then people used it to describe any form of sad rock, such as on GameFAQs in the early-mid 00's, when somebody would complain on a PotD or CE forum they'd be met with a chorus of "CRAWLIN' IN MY SKIN" from the Linkin Park song. It was the BAWW of another generation. This is important to point out.

This is not a typical album in the sense it has a lot of drawn out instrumental parts. Songs "Honesty", "For Sure", "The One with the Wurlitzer", and "Stay Home" are all spacious and largely instrumental and fairly lengthy cuts. But I have to again recall the production. Not too overproduced. Just right. So listening to this is an audio treat.

Bad Brains/self titled/1982/hardcore/Washington, D.C.



This album is a result of when a group of Rastafarian musicians set out to be a jazz fusion band, got turned on hardcore at some point early on, and then added some authentic reggae jams into the mix. This features some of the fastest songs ever heard at this point in 1982 in the hardcore genre. 16 songs blaze by in 34 minutes. If you are a speed junkie like I am, this is a good album to get acquainted with. One of my favorite tracks is "Pay to Cum," where lead vocalist H.R.(im:https://imgur.com/pvS87Vi), lets out 21 words in 3 seconds. So it's filled with hardcore classics such as the aforementioned "Pay to Cum," but also "Banned in D.C.", Sailin' On" and "Right Brigade"

The album then takes a somewhat unexpected twist. Toward the end of the album it features several slow reggae tracks, such as "I Luv I Jah" and "Babylon Calling". This album literally has a hot and cold side, but it doesnt feel out of place for some reason. These songs are also on the long side, so the average song length on the album is heavily inflated. Which means the hardcore on here is fast as heck.

"My lovely sister, judge me by my clothes, yeah. Only to learn her mistake, not everyone is alike." from the song "I Luv I Jah" It fits. Not everyone is alike.

This is an insanely good album. The reggae might not be for everybody, I suppose, but it really adds character and depth to what would have been an otherwise fastastic hardcore album as it is.

Bad Religion/Suffer/1988/hardcore/Los Angeles, C.A.



Group of Los Angeles 20-somethings get into fistfight with a Merriam-Webster's anthology.

That's one reason to like this album. The band members behind this album read lot of science fiction and thus, knew a lot of words.

Imagine, an album that never slows down, never relents in its attack, with such eloquently placed lyrics as

"I am just an atom in an ectoplasmic sea
Without direction or a reason to exist
The anechoic nebula rotating in my brain
Is persuading me, contritely, to persist"

Off the song 'Delirium of Disorder," which is probably the fastest song on here. Oh man. This album does zoom by with 15 tracks in 26 minutes. the longest being two minutes and fort-four seconds.

So, this is an intelligent album talking about the perils of 1980s america and Los Angeles at large. Its got hard hitting lyrics to match the breakneck speed.

This album, along with a few others of the time were the catalyst for the early-mid 90s punk explosion with Green Day, The Offspring, Rancid, etc.

This is a fantastic album, from a band who's previous work, 1983's Into the Unknown sounded like arena rock and actually had a synth. It has some serious anthems on here, such as on "1,000 More Fools", Greg Graffin(im:https://imgur.com/a/ojXhHwU) plainly states:

"Brother, you'd better get down on your knees and pay
1000 more fools are being born every fucking day"

And yeah, like if you hate people, this is awesome. I know I do. This band has been around for 30 years; another essential album that covers a lot of albums and a lot of ground from the late 80s-mid 00s, the bands peak is the All Ages anthology.

I dont think every album will have a football manager counterpart, and indeed I am not actually choosing albums based on that, just to be clear. Im just having fun

I was never a punk expert but I always did love me some Bad Religion, Anti-Flag, AFI, Rancid, Authority Zero. How do you all feel about that song Shes Kersosene by The Inturrupters? Reminds me of The Distillers and is sounds pretty damn good I think.
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That song is pretty good.

Charles Bronson/Youth Attack!/1997/powerviolence/DeKalb, IL



I'm posting this here because I want to highlight a lesser known subgenre. This comes from the subgenre "powerviolence." Powerviolence is a genre of punk that takes other elements of punk(speed, screaming, song length) and refines them to their most extreme, so in this song you have really short, really angry sounding songs.

"Alright man this is it, you gotta be hard, no mercy. We goin' in like professionals, like Charles Bronson. We don't stop 'til the screaming starts, you dig?" - intro to the first track "Marriage Can Suck It"

This album features 20 songs that blaze by in 12 minutes. The vocals aren't completely unintelligible, as you can make out some of them but it isn't easy to do. The drumming is ferocious with bursts that are almost like blast beats. People do like these individual elements of punk rock, so there is a following for this type of music, since powerviolence is just stuff they already like, yet more extreme.

This album has an average song length of around 40 seconds, and with the number of pre-song audio clips, this album also doesnt seem to take itself so seriously. In one, a guy calls up a record store, only to find out they don't have any Charles Bronson records and the record store guy didnt know that band. But when he asked if they had any One Life Cru records(I think a more obscure band), and the guy knew exactly who that was and that they did have them, he was elated. The overall tone of Youth Attack!" is actually youthful, despite the rage. Song titles include "Marriage Can Suck It", "xdumbfucksx", "Fuck Technology, I'll Keep My Pocket Change", "The Only Time I Think About Romance Is When I Wonder Why I Don't Think About It"

This isn't an album that is going to throw any tricks into the mix in terms of production. Its going to sound lo-fi and gritty. It is what it is. It doesn't sound completely one dimensional in this regard, though, but it really just is fast, quick songs that never relent. In fact the only time the album slows down is when they have audio clips from movies and shows. This album also contains a cover of the Husker Du song, "Punch Drunk"

Rather than get this album a far, far better value would be Complete Discocrappy which includes every song this band has ever recorded(117 tracks in 86 minutes), though the song quality varies heavily and you might end up liking this albums tracks the most.

In closing, "That was a little too Chuck Bronson for me, Scully" - audio clip from "Close Encounters of the Nerd Kind"

Eh I'm going to say black flag is the best punk band. Close second would be dead kennedys.

Hell I prefer husker dus alternative stuff to the punk stuff. Same with the melvins.

Early blaxk flag is good. I like both sides to husker du.

Ill keep doing album writeups ive got about 10-15 more

The Descendents/Milo Goes To College/1982/pop punk/Manhattan Beach, CA



Here it is folks, the band for the losers, and this is their album. I don't mean losers in any negative sense, kind of like how Patrick Stickles of Titus Andronicus calls himself a loser and gets us all to chant along with him, looking at ourselves in the process.

This is one of, if not the first pop punk bands to exist. You have pop scented punk from bands like The Ramones and a lot of UK bands. They all had poppy songs, and had songs about being a teenager(The Teenage Kicks, for one), and love. But to the first point, bands like Blink-182 took more of their influence from this band than any of those others(drummer Travis Barker has a Milo tattoo) and lyrically they seemed to sing from a position of power. The Ramones wrote songs about not caring about history class, The Decendents have a track on a later album called "Mass Nerder," wherein they state they are going to kick your ass(by getting better grades in class!). Lead Vocalist Milo Aukerman (im:https://imgur.com/yl7mnBh) is currently a chemist. Bands like a Green Day or Blink-182 would have taken their, at times, immature songwriting influences from this band(Another album features a song with fart clips from band members), but all the same they know how to have heart when they need to.

So, unlike most punk of the time, this album gets fairly deep on an emotional level. In one track they talk about saving a girl from a negative life of constantly partying and drugs...in another song Milo sings "I don't want to have sex with you! I want to be your friend, I want to be with you. I want you to marry me.", another track plays out the trope of nice guy/stop fucking him/he's an asshole/get with me all the while on the track "Catalina," they band cries out from their broken down boat off the coast of the island "Got all the fish I need on the deck of this boat" in reference to a woman. It makes a nice listening experience because of how organic it sounds. The love songs sound natural, like they're truly speaking about themselves and their experiences. Tracks like "Parents", with the line "Parents! Why don't you shut up!" just bring a lot of youthful energy to the table, even if it sounds, well, childish. These guys were teens in 1982.

All of this is accompanied by fast, but not blazing hardcore that gets very melodic at times. That really lets the character shine through.

There is a song on here called "I'm not a loser," wherein Milo Aukerman decries the lifestyle of the popular kid: fucking girls, doing drugs, cruising down the street in mommy's car, turning it back around on those people by saying "Yeah, i'm not a loser!" Growing up in high school, I was one of these guys. I dont really care now because I enjoy life just fine and everything, but this was an anthem for me around the age of 15. Perhaps this album might seem childish these days as we're all adults, but it really is one heck of a polaroid moment.

X/Los Angeles/1980/various styles/Los Angeles, CA



A band like X managed to take an awful show review in an LA newspaper and spin it into having Ray Manzarek of The Doors produce and play keyboards on this album, giving a welcome twist to what would have just been a very americana-esque piece rooted in punk ferociousness.

I don't know if I could think of a better album title for this than Los Angeles, because, maybe perhaps the facts it is the title, I can't stop getting a mental image of what a place LA must have been in 1980. In contrast to some of the songs, such as "Johnny Hit and Run Paulene" about the sexual assault of a woman that really evokes some of the dangers of this high type of living, the fun rockabily style of the songs also makes me think of LA.

Los Angeles has several things going for it you didn't see much of at this stage of punk. A female Vocalist(Exene Cervenka). The aforementioned rockabily(I...I think I am using this term correctly) sound. The keyboard player for The Doors, with copious amounts of keyboards to make the album a fun listen. That's why I find it hard to classify this album, though it is definitely rooted in punk. But that's okay. I love my genre labels but really, I can't think of one specifically for this. Its got too much different stuff going on. It even has a cover of The Doors song "Soul Kitchen"

Ray Manzarek produced this album, but its got a real natural feel to it. His keyboard playing is a little whacky. At times it feels like its not necessary, but in tracks like "The Worlds a Mess..." it completes it. The story I referenced earlier is true. Ray was reading a review of a show of this band, and the journalist called it disparaging names such as I think audible garbage, trash, stuff like it. Ray said he had to see what the hell this could possibly be, fell in love, and produced and played on their first few albums, though he did not write any songs.

Whereas bands like Bad Religion gave you a look at Los Angeles through more of a political lens, this is that same story told by the art kids.

I'm going on a 4 day vacation here so I wont be able to update or at the least I am not typing a review on a tablet so ill post the albums I am going to review when I get back.

Catch 22 - Keasby Nights
Fugazi - The Argument
Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Minor Threat - Complete Discography
Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary
Rites of Spring - End on End
The Gaslight Anthem - The '59 Sound
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - Ska-Core, The Devil and More/Where'd You Go
The Replacements - Tim

Now I decided to keep it abridged. I could be here forever if I wanted to writeup every album I think is classic