Current Events > PSA: if you happen to administer narcan to an ODing person, leave right after.

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Ulyanyx
09/21/18 7:29:08 AM
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Bok_Choi posted...
Heroin is a really shitty drug, the opiates in general are fucking everything up

Stay safe out here CE

These certain people want poor America to be drugged up and poor


"these certain people" only start showing you how bad things like this are to detract from something else.

opiate usage has always been terrible for many reasons, yet only recently is it covered so much in media...

These certain people don't care if America is drugged up and poor, but will definitely use it to draw your attention to something other than what goes on.
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gamestunner
09/21/18 7:29:33 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
gamestunner posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
That's a ridiculous mentality. Most people that drink do not harm anyone. There's no reason to punish someone for a victimless "crime".


Have no problem with people drinking. I do have a problem with people drinking and driving.

Oh sure it's a victim less crime, until they have an accident right? Tell that to all the moms and dads that lost their kids due to douchebag people.

You're ridiculous for condoning it.

People also have accidents frequently if they drive while sleepy or under normal conditions. Driving is a risky activity in general.


Right, so causing an accident while drunk is a ok then right?
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Bok_Choi
09/21/18 7:32:36 AM
#53:


Ulyanyx posted...
"these certain people" only start showing you how bad things like this are to detract from something else.

opiate usage has always been terrible for many reasons, yet only recently is it covered so much in media...

These certain people don't care if America is drugged up and poor, but will definitely use it to draw your attention to something other than what goes on.

That's true too
but I think that's a whole 'nother conversation about news media and taking their bullshit with a grain of salt
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Solar_Crimson
09/21/18 8:22:33 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Bok_Choi posted...
They will probably be pissed that you "ruined their high" (saved their life)

Fuck off, I had a friend die from an overdose because his friend didn't give him narcan.

Imagine trolling with this shit.

He didn't say not to give them narcan. Just to leave right away after doing so because they could get violent.

TheRealDill2000 posted...
That's a ridiculous mentality. Most people that drink do not harm anyone. There's no reason to punish someone for a victimless "crime".

Enough people have injured or killed others while drunk driving that DUI laws are completely justified.
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Bok_Choi
09/21/18 8:42:49 AM
#55:


Solar_Crimson posted...
He didn't say not to give them narcan. Just to leave right away after doing so because they could get violent.

its iclockwork

the fact that he has sympathies for drug addicts is interesting
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catboy0_0
09/21/18 8:43:20 AM
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Bok_Choi posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
He didn't say not to give them narcan. Just to leave right away after doing so because they could get violent.

its iclockwork

the fact that he has sympathies for drug addicts is interesting

what is the point of this post
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Coffeebeanz
09/21/18 8:57:22 AM
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Narcan also can make people vomit, so make sure they don't have a CPAP or BiPAP mask on.
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DrizztLink
09/21/18 8:59:09 AM
#58:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Narcan also can make people vomit, so make sure they don't have a CPAP or BiPAP mask on.

Darth Vader is ODing in my living room please advise
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Coffeebeanz
09/21/18 9:01:29 AM
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DrizztLink posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Narcan also can make people vomit, so make sure they don't have a CPAP or BiPAP mask on.

Darth Vader is ODing in my living room please advise


Let the Narcan flow through him
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gamestunner
09/21/18 9:01:45 AM
#60:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Narcan also can make people vomit, so make sure they don't have a CPAP or BiPAP mask on.


Pretty sure someone oding doesnt have or know wtf those machines are.

"Yeah lemme shoot some of dis in my veins, oh dang it I forgot my CPAP machine!"
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Coffeebeanz
09/21/18 9:03:15 AM
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gamestunner posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Narcan also can make people vomit, so make sure they don't have a CPAP or BiPAP mask on.


Pretty sure someone oding doesnt have or know wtf those machines are.

"Yeah lemme shoot some of dis in my veins, oh dang it I forgot my CPAP machine!"


I only deal with them in the hospital setting, so that's all I see
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Bok_Choi
09/21/18 9:07:32 AM
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gamestunner posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Narcan also can make people vomit, so make sure they don't have a CPAP or BiPAP mask on.


Pretty sure someone oding doesnt have or know wtf those machines are.

"Yeah lemme shoot some of dis in my veins, oh dang it I forgot my CPAP machine!"

its still good advice (that i did not know) that they might vomit after
so keeping their mouths clear is a good thing to know
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gamestunner
09/21/18 9:13:18 AM
#63:


Coffeebeanz posted...
gamestunner posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Narcan also can make people vomit, so make sure they don't have a CPAP or BiPAP mask on.


Pretty sure someone oding doesnt have or know wtf those machines are.

"Yeah lemme shoot some of dis in my veins, oh dang it I forgot my CPAP machine!"


I only deal with them in the hospital setting, so that's all I see


If that's the case, then that should be common knowledge amongst your peers.

But in the real world, if I'm giving a buddy narcan because hes oding, a cpap machine would be the furthest thing from my mind.
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Bok_Choi
09/21/18 9:14:19 AM
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@Coffeebeanz whats the working mechanism of narcan anyway
how does that work
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monkmith
09/21/18 9:51:22 AM
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Bok_Choi posted...
Coffeebeanz whats the working mechanism of narcan anyway
how does that work

in simple terms, there are receptors in the brain called opioid receptors that activate when exposed to opioids. we naturally produce molecules that activate these receptors as needed, but opioids like heroine produce a much stronger/longer lasting effect. narcan acts as a physical block to these receptors, it has a higher affinity to the receptors then heroine and is actually able to remove it from the receptor.
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SageHarpuia
09/21/18 9:54:59 AM
#66:


Bok_Choi posted...
just don't give them narcan

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Coffeebeanz
09/21/18 10:37:27 AM
#67:


Bok_Choi posted...
@Coffeebeanz whats the working mechanism of narcan anyway
how does that work


It's a competitive antagonist for opioid receptors. It essentially binds and inhibits opioid receptors.
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Bok_Choi
09/21/18 10:40:00 AM
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How does it act so quickly tho

BTW thank you both for an easy explanation
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joestarrr
09/21/18 11:24:46 AM
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yeah even though its shitty when people OD, people coming out of a high (thats actually an overdose lmao) can result in extremely violent reactions
not too long ago there was an ER nurse I knew of who got her front teeth kicked in because the patient was coming off a high

stay safe out there~
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Bok_Choi
09/21/18 11:26:37 AM
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so that's two medical professionals cosigning on my PSA thanks
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gamestunner
09/21/18 2:02:46 PM
#71:


Bok_Choi posted...
How does it act so quickly tho

BTW thank you both for an easy explanation


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Bok_Choi
09/21/18 2:29:22 PM
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just looking for an excuse to talk to @Coffeebeanz
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Bok_Choi
09/21/18 2:34:39 PM
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she has not responded thus far
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gamestunner
09/21/18 3:01:27 PM
#75:


Bok_Choi posted...
just looking for an excuse to talk to @Coffeebeanz


Shes busy trying to pay back that 400k student loan for the school she chose to go to.
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Coffeebeanz
09/21/18 3:04:03 PM
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Naloxone. The drug of champions.
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