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Heineken14 08/20/18 3:00:29 PM #152: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
ChainedRedone posted...wtf we love bill Maher now Lol, the right wing projection on this guy. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 08/20/18 3:00:31 PM #153: |
Also do you agree it was good that Dennis Prager videos were banned\restricted?
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Nomadic View 08/20/18 3:00:57 PM #154: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...CableZL posted...HypnoCoosh posted...CableZL posted...Either theyre a platform which allows people to express themselves. Or theyre a publisher that picks and dictates what is released. If theyre the latter then they are subjected to legal liability that their users post. Ill break down the rule of law for this case: If a plaintiff is a public official or is running for public office, he or she can recover damages for defamation only by proving with clear and convincing evidence the falsity of the defamatory statements and the presence of actual malice in the speaker. But Im not sure how that is being applied here. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 08/20/18 3:02:03 PM #155: |
That it's basically down to 4 companies when not that long ago we had many many options??
Verizon T-Mobile Comcast AT&T That's it. --- "No it doesn't. Abortion has never killed a single baby." - Russian Rocket ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/20/18 3:02:37 PM #156: |
If a website is hugely popular, then they definitely wouldn't want incendiary jackasses that break their ToS on their site.
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FrisbeeDude 08/20/18 3:03:07 PM #157: |
People deciding to use one thing is not the same as that thing being the only option to use.
If that were the case, people would still be using myspace --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 08/20/18 3:03:50 PM #158: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
Also do you agree it was good that Dennis Prager videos were banned\restricted? I do, because that means I don't have to deal with shit posters spamming them as a "ACTUALLY" style response. And Dennis Prager is objectively a piece of shit anyway, so it's no wonder you identify with him --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 08/20/18 3:11:06 PM #159: |
If Alex Jones gets banned by an ISP from using the Internet or hosting content then I might say that's infringement on his rights, but last I understood he still has a website.
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CableZL 08/20/18 3:13:43 PM #160: |
Caution999 posted...
That it's basically down to 4 companies when not that long ago we had many many options?? You're heading towards another false equivalence. You're trying to equate monopolistic company acquisitions with a company acquiring other companies that serve different purposes. What you're referring to is stuff like AT&T having a monopoly back in the day and being forced to break up because people didn't have other options for phone service. Google buying Youtube didn't cause anyone to not have another option for video hosting and/or live streaming. Amazon buying Twitch didn't cause anyone to not have another option for video hosting and/or livestreaming. Facebook only controls its own social media platform. Twitter only controls its own social media platform. Spotify only controls its own streaming platform. Vimeo only controls its own streaming platform. Myspace only controls its own social media platform. This used to be the most popular option until Facebook opened up their access to more people and became the most popular option. Google only controls the entities it owns and its own platforms. - Examples: Google search, Youtube, Google Maps, Google Fiber, etc. A phone company buying up all of the companies that offer phone service in the area causes people to only be able to buy phone service from one company. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 08/20/18 3:21:04 PM #161: |
I suppose my issue is more of what the casual person gets to see. Like, how a casual person might think CNN is unbiased.
Just like a casual person would think "ah, google search: They're not restricting my results at all!" But yeah - we shall see what the future holds, here. My thing is that I don't like a small handful of companies being in control of everything. --- "No it doesn't. Abortion has never killed a single baby." - Russian Rocket ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 08/20/18 3:22:16 PM #162: |
It's amazing how many people don't understand that Facebook/Twitter are platforms with rules to abide by.
Break the rules lose acess to the platform. You can still make your own platform on the internet to share your thoughts. Alex hasn't lost his infowars site. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 08/20/18 3:22:37 PM #163: |
Caution999 posted...
CNN *drinks* --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 08/20/18 3:25:40 PM #164: |
Caution999 posted...
I suppose my issue is more of what the casual person gets to see. Like, how a casual person might think CNN is unbiased. "Don't be a sucker" --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/20/18 3:27:21 PM #165: |
Caution999 posted...
I suppose my issue is more of what the casual person gets to see. Like, how a casual person might think CNN is unbiased. "What the casual person thinks" isn't what defines what a monopoly is, so that's not really relevant. "What the casual person is actually able to do" would be more relevant. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 08/20/18 3:27:54 PM #166: |
CableZL posted...
Caution999 posted...I suppose my issue is more of what the casual person gets to see. Like, how a casual person might think CNN is unbiased. True :o --- "No it doesn't. Abortion has never killed a single baby." - Russian Rocket ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 08/20/18 3:31:09 PM #167: |
High fives all around.
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VipaGTS 08/20/18 3:45:54 PM #168: |
Caution999 posted...
I suppose my issue is more of what the casual person gets to see. Like, how a casual person might think CNN is unbiased. Coming from someone who believes every word Trump says without question at all lol. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balnazarr 08/20/18 3:51:37 PM #169: |
You're defending a man who claims Sandy Hook was an inside job and regularly insults the victims. But, that's ok harassment is free speech. I forget you have a right to be racist in this country and people will defend you.
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MC_BatCommander 08/20/18 4:01:33 PM #170: |
Balnazarr posted...
You're defending a man who claims Sandy Hook was an inside job and regularly insults the victims. But, that's ok harassment is free speech. I forget you have a right to be racist in this country and people will defend you. Guarantee you if Jones was an insane liberal none of them would be coming to his defense --- The Legend is True! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 08/20/18 4:03:17 PM #171: |
MC_BatCommander posted...
Balnazarr posted...You're defending a man who claims Sandy Hook was an inside job and regularly insults the victims. But, that's ok harassment is free speech. I forget you have a right to be racist in this country and people will defend you. Oh, absolutely. They'd be using him as an example of what all the left believes and his bannings proving that normal people are siding against liberal ideas. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 08/20/18 4:04:52 PM #172: |
It's funny you'd try that tactic in a topic with liberals criticizing Bill Maher, a man who would advertise himself as liberal.
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Krojen 08/20/18 4:09:43 PM #173: |
There is not a monopoly here. All competing platforms independently came to the same conclusion overnight that suddenly, after many years of spewing crazy ToS breaking shit, Alex Jones was breaking terms of service. Don't like it? You're free to use Baidu instead. There's healthy competition in this space for sure.
As someone that believes Jones should've collected harsh ToS strikes years ago, I wonder what the tipping point was. They were fine with him doxing Sandy Hook parents. I'm more concerned with the platforms subtly tweaking monetization and algorithms more in favor of big corporate channels every day. It's not how these platforms started or why they got popular. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 08/20/18 4:11:37 PM #174: |
Krojen posted...
As someone that believes Jones should've collected harsh ToS strikes years ago, I wonder what the tipping point was. Profit. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/20/18 4:28:32 PM #176: |
Balnazarr posted...
You're defending a man who claims Sandy Hook was an inside job and regularly insults the victims. But, that's ok harassment is free speech. I forget you have a right to be racist in this country and people will defend you. People won't defend racism, they will defend your right to free thought. Wrongthink is scary --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/20/18 4:31:55 PM #177: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Balnazarr posted...You're defending a man who claims Sandy Hook was an inside job and regularly insults the victims. But, that's ok harassment is free speech. I forget you have a right to be racist in this country and people will defend you. And the right to free thought includes telling nutcases to fuck off and not associating with them. Otherwise, it's not free thought, just free to spew crazy bullshit without opposition. "Wrongthink" exists every day in every social interaction. It's only scary if the government starts defining it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 08/20/18 4:36:24 PM #178: |
so I went to go see the new Mission Impossible movie and see that while I was gone, conservatives are still willfully ignorant about everything being discussed. why is that?
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P4wn4g3 08/20/18 4:40:24 PM #179: |
Phantom_Nook posted...
so I went to go see the new Mission Impossible movie and see that while I was gone, conservatives are still willfully ignorant about everything being discussed. why is that? Did Tom Cruise manage to run away from his thoughts --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThanksUglyGod 08/20/18 4:44:53 PM #180: |
Phantom_Nook posted...
so I went to go see the new Mission Impossible movie and see that while I was gone, conservatives are still willfully ignorant about everything being discussed. why is that? It's hard to hear when your ears are filled with sand ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RealBroShiiii 08/20/18 4:48:53 PM #181: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
Krojen posted...As someone that believes Jones should've collected harsh ToS strikes years ago, I wonder what the tipping point was. Exactly, liberals think this is some moral victory. It's actually capitalism at work. --- Used to be Crips and Bloods didn't get along, But now we're all a family so we wrote this song, Nanana Crips and Bloods, Nanana Hope and Love ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 08/20/18 4:55:08 PM #182: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
Phantom_Nook posted... Not fast enough. That's why he needed the helicopter. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/20/18 5:11:41 PM #183: |
hockeybub89 posted...
"I do it, therefore everyones does!" No that's on you buddy --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fight_The_Power 08/21/18 12:03:48 AM #184: |
Lol, unfair still thinks anyone gives a shit about his braindead thoughts
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UnfairRepresent 08/21/18 1:28:36 AM #185: |
Fight_The_Power posted...
Lol, unfair still thinks anyone gives a shit about his braindead thoughts Clearly you do since you are arguing for wrongthink --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cerealbox760 08/21/18 1:43:14 AM #186: |
This is very tricky. I dont know if Alex Jones should be immune to the TOS like many conservatives are suggesting. Imagine if Trump gets banned off twitter for violating the terms of service. Should he be immune as well?
At the same time, these are big platforms that hold enormous leverage. Especially with the youth because Fox News and CNN is for old people. If you are a liberal, you would support free speech no matter what. Oh how the tables have turned. Fake liberals everywhere. Banning the entire Alex Jones network is a stretch. banning his more inflammatory videos would've been fair instead of purging him completely. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 08/21/18 1:55:22 AM #187: |
cerealbox760 posted...
Imagine if Trump gets banned off twitter for violating the terms of service. Should he be immune as well? Speaking of Trump and Twitter... Donald Trump cannot block anyone on Twitter, court rules https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/23/trump-twitter-block-ruling-court-public-forum-account A district court in New York has ruled that Donald Trump cannot block people on Twitter, because it violates their first amendment rights to participate in a public forum. The case was brought forward by the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University, representing seven plaintiffs who have been blocked by the president. In ruling against Trump, the court pointed to past White House assurances that the presidents Twitter account is an official political channel. In her 75-page opinion, the United States district judge Naomi Reice Buchwald wrote: The president presents the @realDonaldTrump account as being a presidential account as opposed to a personal account and, more importantly, uses the account to take actions that can be taken only by the president as president. Earlier this week Trump attempted to order a DoJ investigation into election surveillance with a tweet that began I hereby demand. Judge Buchwald suggested that Trump could have simply ignored the replies that upset him, rather than blocking the users involved. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 08/21/18 1:57:10 AM #188: |
Cable doing the Lord's work in this topic.
Anyone going on about companies being monopolies or trying to make this a "freedom of speech" issue is just parroting talking points they heard. If your goal was just to ban conservatives from your social media platform, there are better targets to go after than Alex Jones. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/21/18 5:24:18 AM #189: |
Anteaterking posted...
If your goal was just to ban conservatives from your social media platform, there are better targets to go after than Alex Jones. you don't hit the best targets you hit the targets you can take You don't start an invasion of the US by sending footsoliders to Washington. If this is solely about Alex Jones why are people who ate merely talking about him getting punished also? Hilarious example: H3H3's Ethan got a stream taken down and a strike against his channel for talking about Alex Jones.... in a live stream where he was passionately defending YouTube's actions Meanwhile Logan Paul does worse than Jones ever did and no one cares This is undeniably a political move based on what money social media sites can make. it has nothing to do with terms of service --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 08/21/18 9:17:38 AM #190: |
Anteaterking posted...
If your goal was just to ban conservatives from your social media platform, there are better targets to go after than Alex Jones. Here is a long list of conservative pundits on social media (Youtube/Twitter/Facebook) that were deleted or censored as of 2018. According to Joe Adamic Amethyst AmericanEveryman animal farm Anti-School aplaintruth Arthur Koestler ashtonbirdie Back to the Constitution Barry Soetoro Blackstone Brave New World Charles Walton Charlton Colin Flaherty Darkness at Noon David Seaman Destroying the Illusion Dr. Jerome Corsi Dr. of Common Sense Dustin Nemos Edgy Sphinx Eric Dubay Factions of Freedom FAKE NEWS REPORT Free Radio Revolution Revived FromDeath2Life Gematrianator HowISeeTheWorld InTruthbyGrace Jake Morphonios Jay Myers Jim Marrs Joanne Steen Johnny Supertramp JYW420 Kalika from For the People Kearn Kearsy Kevin K Johnston Kinningan Lawarewolf Liberty Columnist Mag Bitter Truth Matrix Breakout Max Malone McFly McSimonius mgtow is freedom Mlordandgod Murdoch Murdoch Operation Hal Peekay Peekay Boston Psyched Substance Redd Dog Truth Richie Allen Show Ron Johnson Russian Vids The Black Child The Kepler Telescope Channel The Ochelli Effect The Paulstaul Service Titus Frost TruthmediaRevolution Urban Moving Victurus Libertas VL WAP tech Health Ranger Jay Dyer Activist Mommy MLKJ's Niece Conservative Author Pro Life Activist SGTReport Peter Van Buren Kimberley Strassel Caitlin Johnstone RichieFromBoston AMTV Anthony Cumia Right Wing News The Deplorable Choir Craig Sawyer James O'Keefe Defango Rufio Panman Gabe Zolna Isaac Green CrowdSource the Truth Stefan Molyneux --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 08/21/18 9:23:41 AM #191: |
No one cares about the list you keep spamming you kooky conspiracy truther, especially when you're ignoring other channels that got nixed that aren't conservative
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Bio1590 08/21/18 9:48:26 AM #192: |
Funbazooka posted...
cerealbox760 posted...Imagine if Trump gets banned off twitter for violating the terms of service. Should he be immune as well? Weird, it's almost like Trump is a Government figure and the White House has stated that Trump's tweets are official Government statements from the White House --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 08/21/18 10:21:58 AM #193: |
Bio1590 posted...
Funbazooka posted...cerealbox760 posted...Imagine if Trump gets banned off twitter for violating the terms of service. Should he be immune as well? Yeah I'd say Trump out himself in that situation. Though I'd argue the Supreme Court can't call Twitter a government platform by any stretch of the imagination as well. I suppose it was Trump that did that, but either way. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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