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FrisbeeDude
08/02/18 5:42:13 PM
#53:


AlephZero posted...
did an ignorated user post


when you're so quick to troll, you cant get the spelling right. we've all been there, myself included lol
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Rimmer_Dall
08/02/18 5:42:33 PM
#54:


FrisbeeDude posted...
The bar for racism is set really low whenever a minority can be accused of it lmao

Am I the only one who thinks FrisbeeDude is an alt-right guy pretending to be a leftist in order to make leftists look bad?
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FrisbeeDude
08/02/18 5:45:02 PM
#55:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
The bar for racism is set really low whenever a minority can be accused of it lmao

Am I the only one who thinks FrisbeeDude is an alt-right guy pretending to be a leftist in order to make leftists look bad?


excellent contribution
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AlephZero
08/02/18 5:45:26 PM
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somebody is having a melty
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Kazi1212
08/02/18 5:46:07 PM
#57:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
The bar for racism is set really low whenever a minority can be accused of it lmao

Am I the only one who thinks FrisbeeDude is an alt-right guy pretending to be a leftist in order to make leftists look bad?


Thats what Ive thought all along, I thought all the regulars thought that
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Southernfatman
08/02/18 5:46:11 PM
#58:


I'm a liberal.

Anti white racism is still racism. She should be fired and people defending or downplaying this are wrong and making all of us on the left look bad.
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FrisbeeDude
08/02/18 5:49:11 PM
#59:


Kazi1212 posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
The bar for racism is set really low whenever a minority can be accused of it lmao

Am I the only one who thinks FrisbeeDude is an alt-right guy pretending to be a leftist in order to make leftists look bad?


Thats what Ive thought all along, I thought all the regulars thought that


why address what I said when you can cry in the corner.
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LedZeppelin
08/02/18 5:49:30 PM
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people like that bitch in the op are disgusting. too many people act like blatant racism is okay as long as its directed towards white people, most especially white men
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Nomadic View
08/02/18 5:51:08 PM
#61:


Kazi1212 posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
The bar for racism is set really low whenever a minority can be accused of it lmao

Am I the only one who thinks FrisbeeDude is an alt-right guy pretending to be a leftist in order to make leftists look bad?


Thats what Ive thought all along, I thought all the regulars thought that


I dont think so or else he would have answered my straight forward question.
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FrisbeeDude
08/02/18 5:52:15 PM
#62:


Nomadic View posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Nomadic View posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
being subjected to constant racial attacks is ok, but responding in kind is unacceptable? I need yall to let us know how we can respond to racists on social media, because yall bitch when we expose them and bitch when we fight fire with fire. If you would just prefer we take it, sack up and say as much


Attack the individual racists that are attacking you rather than just being racist yourself.


We tried that, yall complained and suggested. we try to understand their views(the New York times, ironically enough, even went so far as to write a puff piece about the misunderstood modern day nazi). Even went so far as to highlights those who try to convert Klan members


Are you racist?


nope
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LJRENEGADE
08/02/18 6:12:09 PM
#63:


Its always sad seeing stuff like this. These types of people think they're different from other racists too, but its all the same hateful shit. They just try to justify it and say its different. I just think its sad to see people who actually believe things like this.

FrisbeeDude posted...
The bar for racism is set really low whenever a minority can be accused of it lmao

While I do think people of any race are more likely to be upset at racism directed at their own race, you have to admit what she's saying is definitely racist. Just switch "white people" with anything you relate with. Race, sex, whatever. Its not like she's making harmless racist jokes, she's saying hateful stuff.
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A_Good_Boy
08/02/18 6:21:44 PM
#64:


LedZeppelin posted...
people like that bitch in the op are disgusting. too many people act like blatant racism is okay as long as its directed towards white people, most especially white men

You don't seem to mind flinging racism at other people anyways. Quit the crocodile tears.
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FLUFFYGERM
08/02/18 6:23:39 PM
#65:


Ah yes, another FrisbeeDude meltdown.
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FrisbeeDude
08/02/18 6:26:36 PM
#66:


While I do think people of any race are more likely to be upset at racism directed at their own race, you have to admit what she's saying is definitely racist. Just switch "white people" with anything you relate with. Race, sex, whatever. Its not like she's making harmless racist jokes, she's saying hateful stuff.

https://twitter.com/elonjames/status/1025098736207319040?s=19
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FrisbeeDude
08/02/18 6:27:00 PM
#67:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Ah yes, another FrisbeeDude meltdown.


ah yes, another shitposter
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iPhone_7
08/02/18 6:30:25 PM
#68:


She should have been fired and freed to go somewhere else like Huffington Post or Jezebel
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darkjedilink
08/02/18 6:32:34 PM
#69:


ChainedRedone posted...
Bad move by NYT. What a joke.

Edit: actually I change my mind after looking more into it.

She was constantly harassed and called racial slurs. She decided to "counter-revolutionary", as she puts it, by attacking them for being white. Unprofessional and she should have known better, but that's a far cry from racism that she's being accused of. I'm glad they kept her.

So racism you can claim is retaliatory is okay?
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darkjedilink
08/02/18 6:33:18 PM
#70:


FrisbeeDude posted...
The bar for racism is set really low whenever a minority can be accused of it lmao

pornstar refuses to work with black actors: what's the big deal

black college students would prefer to live with other black college students or set up black student activity groups on campuses (in large part, due to systematic racism at predominantly white institutions: FUCKING RACIST DOUBLE STANDARDS

So, you're saying 'wnna' isn't racist?
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LJRENEGADE
08/02/18 6:40:01 PM
#71:


FrisbeeDude posted...
While I do think people of any race are more likely to be upset at racism directed at their own race, you have to admit what she's saying is definitely racist. Just switch "white people" with anything you relate with. Race, sex, whatever. Its not like she's making harmless racist jokes, she's saying hateful stuff.

https://twitter.com/elonjames/status/1025098736207319040?s=19

Well, that's pretty much what I mean. Justify it and say this hate is different than that hate so people can say they're not bad people and be hypocrites without guilt. At the end of the day, its still hating someone solely for their skin color and that's not right, no matter who it is.

Whenever somebody says something racist or whatever, I don't know why, but I always tend to think about babies. Never and pretty much are incapable of hurting another person and can't even comprehend things like racism or race. And just the thought that these innocent children are part of the group people are targeting when they say racist shit is fucked up. Its not cool to be racist toward anyone, we should treat people like individuals because they are. Eh, but I'm just rambling now.
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LJRENEGADE
08/02/18 6:42:34 PM
#72:


ChainedRedone posted...
Bad move by NYT. What a joke.

Edit: actually I change my mind after looking more into it.

She was constantly harassed and called racial slurs. She decided to "counter-revolutionary", as she puts it, by attacking them for being white. Unprofessional and she should have known better, but that's a far cry from racism that she's being accused of. I'm glad they kept her.

Eh, maybe it makes it a little more understandable why she'd act that way, but it doesn't excuse it or cancel it out. It just makes her just as bad as the people doing it to her.
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darkjedilink
08/02/18 6:43:05 PM
#73:


LJRENEGADE posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
While I do think people of any race are more likely to be upset at racism directed at their own race, you have to admit what she's saying is definitely racist. Just switch "white people" with anything you relate with. Race, sex, whatever. Its not like she's making harmless racist jokes, she's saying hateful stuff.

https://twitter.com/elonjames/status/1025098736207319040?s=19

Well, that's pretty much what I mean. Justify it and say this hate is different than that hate so people can say they're not bad people and be hypocrites without guilt. At the end of the day, its still hating someone solely for their skin color and that's not right, no matter who it is.

Whenever somebody says something racist or whatever, I don't know why, but I always tend to think about babies. Never and pretty much are incapable of hurting another person and can't even comprehend things like racism or race. And just the thought that these innocent children are part of the group people are targeting when they say racist shit is fucked up. Its not cool to be racist toward anyone, we should treat people like individuals because they are. Eh, but I'm just rambling now.

You're arguing with a man who thinks mentioning crime statistics is racist against black people.
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FrisbeeDude
08/02/18 6:45:24 PM
#74:


You're arguing with a man who thinks mentioning crime statistics is racist against black people.

quote me or cry more
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Bishop9800
08/02/18 6:49:53 PM
#75:


darkjedilink posted...
You're arguing with a man who thinks mentioning crime statistics is racist against black people.


Ohh where do we even begin on you, my child?
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Ammonitida
08/02/18 7:10:08 PM
#76:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
ScaredKitty posted...
far right websites are loving this. it's plastered across the front page of all of them. they don't even have to make shit up anymore.

like seriously just fire her and hire some other asian woman. surely they can do better than this.


fuck capitulation to racists. they're trying to defend the scumbags who represent them with this pathetic gotcha campaign.

The irony here. You never fail to deliver.


cool, bro.


Very ironic, bro. And rarely was she responding to racist trolls. In most cases, she was the unprovoked racist troll. She lied about the motive of her tweets and and so did the NYT. The latter is even more shitty.
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FLUFFYGERM
08/02/18 9:18:21 PM
#77:


Didn't FrisbeeDude argue that Roseanne should be fired for her tweet?

Yet here is a woman who works for mass media who would literally kill white people if she could get away with it, tweeting a shit storm of horrendous things. And he doesn't see anything wrong with it.

Wtf?
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FLUFFYGERM
08/02/18 9:20:33 PM
#78:


If the left doesn't denounce the New York Times and this writer, then basically they're conceding that one of their core positions is anti-white racism and bigotry. This widespread normalization of anti-white racism is going to give alt-right groups recruiting material. No one fucking wins.

I look to CE's mature leftists to denounce this with the force of ten thousand exploding suns.
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FLUFFYGERM
08/02/18 9:36:20 PM
#79:


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/16/opinion/white-racism-threats.html

Yet just when I began to unmoor, a braver white America began to speak, to risk, to love. Perhaps for the first time, these white readers took off their masks, even if only for a moment, to hear me. Then again, perhaps they had already known about the difficulties involved in removing their masks, knowing how hard it is to avoid falling back on white innocence. They entered that space of risk and honesty where they dared to tell the truth about their whiteness. Thanks Professor Yancy for your thoughts, one woman wrote. The system is racist. As a white woman, I am responsible to dismantle that system as well as the attitudes in me that growing up in the system created. I am responsible for speaking out when I hear racist comments.

And the disagreeable mirror produced painful disclosures. Beautiful words, thoughtful words, and words that needed to be said. Thank you for holding up a mirror to my inner hate. A shared understanding of the complexity of white racism was staring back at me. Thank you. I am a white liberal/ardent backer of civil rights, but as you say, also a racist. Godspeed, and thank you for helping to keep me honest. Or I have been living this past year with the growing understanding that my white privilege is toxic. Or I would like to offer you a gift in return: A commitment to fully accept the racism (and sexism) that is embedded in me, acknowledge the privilege that comes with having been born a white American, try my best to be educated about the suffering my racism and privilege causes others.

In response to these positive responses, however, some will still insist, Their white history speaks louder than their words. But history, I say, is not fixed. And as human beings we are protean.


TL - "listening" when someone tells you about "whiteness" means accepting and repeating that simply being white means you are racist and that your privilege is toxic and harmful to those around you.

I'm adding the NY Times to my browser's block list. Piece of trash publication.
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pikachupwnage
08/02/18 9:36:45 PM
#80:


FrisbeeDude posted...
While I do think people of any race are more likely to be upset at racism directed at their own race, you have to admit what she's saying is definitely racist. Just switch "white people" with anything you relate with. Race, sex, whatever. Its not like she's making harmless racist jokes, she's saying hateful stuff.

https://twitter.com/elonjames/status/1025098736207319040?s=19


Hate is hate bro. Lack of Historical context wouldnt make Gas all the white people less disgusting a thing to say.

Context matters but hatred is hatred. Lets not pretend like there is any context wherein judging someone solely by their skin color is acceptable.

And even if it was supposedly counter trolling which I kinda have a hard time buying someone would post like that for two years on a public account without actually feeling that way...putting more of this kind of shit out there does not help the situation for yourself or overall. When the toilet clogs dont take a big shit in it.
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pikachupwnage
08/02/18 9:46:26 PM
#82:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/16/opinion/white-racism-threats.html

Yet just when I began to unmoor, a braver white America began to speak, to risk, to love. Perhaps for the first time, these white readers took off their masks, even if only for a moment, to hear me. Then again, perhaps they had already known about the difficulties involved in removing their masks, knowing how hard it is to avoid falling back on white innocence. They entered that space of risk and honesty where they dared to tell the truth about their whiteness. Thanks Professor Yancy for your thoughts, one woman wrote. The system is racist. As a white woman, I am responsible to dismantle that system as well as the attitudes in me that growing up in the system created. I am responsible for speaking out when I hear racist comments.

And the disagreeable mirror produced painful disclosures. Beautiful words, thoughtful words, and words that needed to be said. Thank you for holding up a mirror to my inner hate. A shared understanding of the complexity of white racism was staring back at me. Thank you. I am a white liberal/ardent backer of civil rights, but as you say, also a racist. Godspeed, and thank you for helping to keep me honest. Or I have been living this past year with the growing understanding that my white privilege is toxic. Or I would like to offer you a gift in return: A commitment to fully accept the racism (and sexism) that is embedded in me, acknowledge the privilege that comes with having been born a white American, try my best to be educated about the suffering my racism and privilege causes others.

In response to these positive responses, however, some will still insist, Their white history speaks louder than their words. But history, I say, is not fixed. And as human beings we are protean.


TL - "listening" when someone tells you about "whiteness" means accepting and repeating that simply being white means you are racist and that your privilege is toxic and harmful to those around you.

I'm adding the NY Times to my browser's block list. Piece of trash publication.


From the previous article...

As you reap comfort from being white, we suffer for being black and people of color. But your comfort is linked to our pain and suffering. Just as my comfort in being male is linked to the suffering of women, which makes me sexist, so, too, you are racist. That is the gift that I want you to accept, to embrace. It is a form of knowledge that is taboo. Imagine the impact that the acceptance of this gift might have on you and the world.

I take deep objection to the fact that he is saying being a man or white person is inherently racist/sexist here. Because he certainly isnt saying here that its all about personal actions and thoughts.

Privledge=/=racism. Related concepts but not Inherently the same.

Also the pretentious talk about how the article is a gift is really damn off putting and arrogant. Make your damn point without the self aggrandizing fluff.
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FLUFFYGERM
08/02/18 9:47:23 PM
#83:


pikachupwnage posted...
From the previous article...

As you reap comfort from being white, we suffer for being black and people of color. But your comfort is linked to our pain and suffering. Just as my comfort in being male is linked to the suffering of women, which makes me sexist, so, too, you are racist. That is the gift that I want you to accept, to embrace. It is a form of knowledge that is taboo. Imagine the impact that the acceptance of this gift might have on you and the world.

I take deep objection to the fact that he is saying being a man or white person is inherently racist/sexist here. Because he certainly isnt saying here that its all about personal actions and thoughts.

Privledge=/=racism. Related concepts but not Inherently the same.

Also the pretentious talk about how the article is a gift is really damn off putting and arrogant. Make your damn point without the self aggrandizing fluff.


His entire position is basically a catastrophic moral failure. It's a sick and demented lunacy.
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Zodd3224
08/02/18 10:24:31 PM
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Its sad that neither side can see racism when its not towards their race, smh... looking forward to the day everyone is mulatto like me
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knuxnole
08/02/18 10:29:04 PM
#85:


Nasty

Anyone who hates whites are trash
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/02/18 11:07:49 PM
#86:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Didn't FrisbeeDude argue that Roseanne should be fired for her tweet?

Yet here is a woman who works for mass media who would literally kill white people if she could get away with it, tweeting a shit storm of horrendous things. And he doesn't see anything wrong with it.

Wtf?


This is exaggerated hyperbole, but you're not entirely wrong, so stay tuned for my response to your next post...
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FLUFFYGERM
08/02/18 11:08:13 PM
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Note that I don't give a fuck what you think about anything, ImTheMaheteGuy. Even when you agree with me.
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Sephiroth1288
08/02/18 11:13:52 PM
#88:


Bumjuice001 posted...
While this is highly unprofessional and racist, you do have to understand how these opinions are formed. Racism towards white people usually stems from some sort of oppression. It wasnt that long ago when Asians were viewed as subhumans in this country.

So if someone was abused by a black person at some point, it's then ok to support genociding black people. Gotcha.
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08/02/18 11:14:53 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/02/18 11:16:27 PM
#90:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
If the left doesn't denounce the New York Times and this writer, then basically they're conceding that one of their core positions is anti-white racism and bigotry. This widespread normalization of anti-white racism is going to give alt-right groups recruiting material. No one fucking wins.

I look to CE's mature leftists to denounce this with the force of ten thousand exploding suns.


I agree the bolded section 100%. This woman has an agenda and she has overshot with it, and her cause will suffer for it. It is likely that she wants to beat the alt-right at their own game, but she is trying too hard and alienating people in the process. One just does not say these things.

She's so blatant in her hysteria that she begs the question of whether or not she is actually a rabid trump supporter spewing off-the-left-end-of-the-chart rhetoric to get the exact sort of response I'm offering now. It doesn't matter though. It is toxic if not carcinogenic in nature.

Dedicated troll or dedicated real life monster... she's no better or worse either way imo peddling stuff like this.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/02/18 11:18:10 PM
#91:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Note that I don't give a fuck what you think about anything, ImTheMaheteGuy. Even when you agree with me.


Well that's not mutual, captain emotion :/
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HiddenLurker
08/02/18 11:40:38 PM
#93:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Nomadic View posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Nomadic View posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
being subjected to constant racial attacks is ok, but responding in kind is unacceptable? I need yall to let us know how we can respond to racists on social media, because yall bitch when we expose them and bitch when we fight fire with fire. If you would just prefer we take it, sack up and say as much


Attack the individual racists that are attacking you rather than just being racist yourself.


We tried that, yall complained and suggested. we try to understand their views(the New York times, ironically enough, even went so far as to write a puff piece about the misunderstood modern day nazi). Even went so far as to highlights those who try to convert Klan members


Are you racist?


nope

Actually yeah you are. You got spanked hard on the phony racist tip story and keep acting like it is true even after the waiter got fired for writing the racist note.
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FLUFFYGERM
08/02/18 11:44:02 PM
#94:


HiddenLurker posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Nomadic View posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Nomadic View posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
being subjected to constant racial attacks is ok, but responding in kind is unacceptable? I need yall to let us know how we can respond to racists on social media, because yall bitch when we expose them and bitch when we fight fire with fire. If you would just prefer we take it, sack up and say as much


Attack the individual racists that are attacking you rather than just being racist yourself.


We tried that, yall complained and suggested. we try to understand their views(the New York times, ironically enough, even went so far as to write a puff piece about the misunderstood modern day nazi). Even went so far as to highlights those who try to convert Klan members


Are you racist?


nope

Actually yeah you are. You got spanked hard on the phony racist tip story and keep acting like it is true even after the waiter got fired for writing the racist note.


lmao I wish I saw that topic. What did he say?
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