Poll of the Day > I feel like there's no innocuous, objective way for me as a man to say...

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...I'm fine with women wanting to go topless for completely nonsexual reasons.

I do feel that way but it's like saying that would never, ever convince anyone that I'm being genuine. Kinda sad.
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You just wanna see their boobies.

In a completely nonsexual way.

I can believe that a man would want women to be allowed to be topless in a nonsexual way. Women should be allowed to be topless because men can show their nipples all they want but woman nipples are somehow taboo. Just the nipples, because you can show literally all of the rest of the breast. It's stupid.
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Don't try to be objective and innocuous about it. Acknowledge that you'd enjoy seeing some boobs if female toplessness were normalized, because everybody expects that of you. Trying to suggest that you wouldn't be sexually aroused by a part of the body that's typically considered to be sexually arousing is just going to make you seem disingenuous. Therefore, just acknowledge and accept that. Once that's out of the way, then make a point of calling out the ridiculous double standard, how absurd it is that the nipples have been singled out as being the evil scary bit that should never be shown, and other non-sexual reasons for being okay with toplessness.

Being sexually aroused by an attractive topless person is perfectly normal, for both men and women. If women start going topless as often as men do, men can be expected to enjoy that toplessness sexually. That's not a bad thing. If women can handle being aroused by topless men, men can handle being aroused by topless women, and that shouldn't be cited as a reason for keeping toplessness illegal.

_AdjI_ posted...

Don't try to be objective and innocuous about it. Acknowledge that you'd enjoy seeing some boobs if female toplessness were normalized, because everybody expects that of you. Trying to suggest that you wouldn't be sexually aroused by a part of the body that's typically considered to be sexually arousing is just going to make you seem disingenuous. Therefore, just acknowledge and accept that. Once that's out of the way, then make a point of calling out the ridiculous double standard, how absurd it is that the nipples have been singled out as being the evil scary bit that should never be shown, and other non-sexual reasons for being okay with toplessness.

Being sexually aroused by an attractive topless person is perfectly normal, for both men and women. If women start going topless as often as men do, men can be expected to enjoy that toplessness sexually. That's not a bad thing. If women can handle being aroused by topless men, men can handle being aroused by topless women, and that shouldn't be cited as a reason for keeping toplessness illegal.

Except that genuinely isnt my stance. My desire for women to be topless is simply a matter of equality and, to me, a silly and archaic aversion to the sexual implications of bare breasts.

Nipples are NOTHING. Female nipples are a bit more pronounced than a males, sure, but I never saw the hullabaloo over the notion. Im a lower hemisphere man myself. Thats where all the fun can be had anyway.
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It is legal where I live for women to go topless but I have personally never seen it. I'm not sure who is actually fighting for that right.
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I mean, hell, Im actually confused. The distinguishing feature of a womans figure is the size of their chest, which you dont need to see nipples to appreciate anyway. But that little bit of differently colored flesh-nub at the front is SO IMPORTANT, apparently.
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Dude, if girls like me went topless, you would change your mind... unless youre a chubby chaser.
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I don't want topless men either... but in an appropriate environment like the beach I dont see why not
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Lokarin posted...

I don't want topless men either... but in an appropriate environment like the beach I dont see why not

Pretty much this.

Solid Sonic posted...

...I'm fine with women wanting to go topless for completely nonsexual reasons.

I do feel that way but it's like saying that would never, ever convince anyone that I'm being genuine. Kinda sad.

Move to Europe. You know how the US doesn't care how violent something is but is scared of sex? It's the other way around there-they know that sex is natural and violence is something to be handled less gratuitously. They're not going topless in the streets just yet but if it happens, that's where it'll start.
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Syntheticon posted...

Move to Europe. You know how the US doesn't care how violent something is but is scared of sex? It's the other way around there-they know that sex is natural and violence is something to be handled less gratuitously. They're not going topless in the streets just yet but if it happens, that's where it'll start.

https://imgur.com/DBcUtoo
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Revelation34 posted...

Syntheticon posted...

Move to Europe. You know how the US doesn't care how violent something is but is scared of sex? It's the other way around there-they know that sex is natural and violence is something to be handled less gratuitously. They're not going topless in the streets just yet but if it happens, that's where it'll start.

https://imgur.com/DBcUtoo

But you can't have both-you either have the puritanical mindset where they're afraid of their bodies and sex so the entertainment industry says "well we want to show something shocking, can we blow their face off instead?" and in order to keep their misplaced sense of propriety, they'll agree or they'll be grown ups about something natural and harmless and as a result, not feel the need to act like overexcited teenagers over gore. The two ways of thinking aren't mutually compatible.
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Syntheticon posted...

But you can't have both-you either have the puritanical mindset where they're afraid of their bodies and sex so the entertainment industry says "well we want to show something shocking, can we blow their face off instead?" and in order to keep their misplaced sense of propriety, they'll agree or they'll be grown ups about something natural and harmless and as a result, not feel the need to act like overexcited teenagers over gore. The two ways of thinking aren't mutually compatible.

No the point is you can have both. You can have your extreme violence and sexual content.
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Moonjay posted...

I can believe that a man would want women to be allowed to be topless in a nonsexual way. Women should be allowed to be topless because men can show their nipples all they want but woman nipples are somehow taboo. Just the nipples, because you can show literally all of the rest of the breast. It's stupid.

I'm both nonsexual and incidentally sexual when it comes to that. I do think it's stupid that women are legally required to cover nipples while men arent but I cant say I wont look at a nice set of titties in a sexual way. Thousands of years of evolution unfortunately make that impossible

Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

Dude, if girls like me went topless, you would change your mind... unless youre a chubby chaser.

Yes please
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Revelation34 posted...

Syntheticon posted...

But you can't have both-you either have the puritanical mindset where they're afraid of their bodies and sex so the entertainment industry says "well we want to show something shocking, can we blow their face off instead?" and in order to keep their misplaced sense of propriety, they'll agree or they'll be grown ups about something natural and harmless and as a result, not feel the need to act like overexcited teenagers over gore. The two ways of thinking aren't mutually compatible.

No the point is you can have both. You can have your extreme violence and sexual content.

But not in the mainstream, one will always be more acceptable to the public and therefore whoever is censoring the majority of content.
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Women going topless in public just means men shouldn't be outside, because there's going to be a million charges of sexual harassment because a man she isn't interested looked at her.

Just like with flirting.
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Syntheticon posted...

You know how the US doesn't care how violent something is but is scared of sex?

lol no
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Syntheticon posted...

But not in the mainstream, one will always be more acceptable to the public and therefore whoever is censoring the majority of content.

Then the mainstream is wrong. Censorship is always wrong.
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If you feel there's no good way to say it, then just don't say it. Sometimes people forget that they don't always have to share every opinion they have.

(That being said, I'm fine with you saying this. Still, better to be overcautious than undercautious.)
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

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That is painfully unfunny
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Revelation34 posted...

Syntheticon posted...

But not in the mainstream, one will always be more acceptable to the public and therefore whoever is censoring the majority of content.

Then the mainstream is wrong. Censorship is always wrong.

I never said they were right, just that it's the way it will pan out.
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Solid Sonic posted...

...I'm fine with women wanting to go topless for completely nonsexual reasons.

I do feel that way but it's like saying that would never, ever convince anyone that I'm being genuine. Kinda sad.

Yeah but I agree with you.
Breast arent inherently sexual. People have just fetishized them beyond a healthy limit (people get mad at women who breast feed in public. thats the purpose of the freaking breast. So at that point, yeah its not a healthy fetish).
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Syntheticon posted...

I never said they were right, just that it's the way it will pan out.

Except it isn't. There would only be some complaints mostly from Christians.
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