Current Events > the majority of Republicans approve of the way trump handled Helsinki summit

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https://www.axios.com/republicans-poll-donald-trump-press-conference-putin-5776322f-a483-4e21-b50c-028799b08367.html

CULT

and by majority i mean 79 percent

well yeah a majority of republicans are fascist lunatics so

What about Trump draws the idiots to him?

Yikes
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deplorable traitors who think they are patriots
lol
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Of course, they are the TOP after all.
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Should be noted less people are identifying as Republicans since Trump won. Not nearly enough to make this number acceptable, but it puts it in perspective a little.
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BLAKUboy posted...

Should be noted less people are identifying as Republicans since Trump won. Not nearly enough to make this number acceptable, but it puts it in perspective a little.

Yeah; among the sort of Republicans who would be outraged by this, some have left the party
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Idiots accept idiocy. Woah, man, this is the Internet. Keep it believable.
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BLAKUboy posted...

Should be noted less people are identifying as Republicans since Trump won. Not nearly enough to make this number acceptable, but it puts it in perspective a little.

less people identified as republican after gwbs disaster of a presidency.

that doesnt really matter imo.

the 1/3 independent support is what truly astounds me

that republicans are generally either morons or single-issue voters (ie libertarians) willing to make a deal with the idiot devil to achieve their policy goals is no surprise to me
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Darkman124 posted...

the 1/3 independent support is what truly astounds me

that republicans are generally either morons or single-issue voters (ie libertarians) willing to make a deal with the idiot devil to achieve their policy goals is no surprise to me

Eh, 1/3 independent support isn't too surprising. Plenty of indies are Republicans-in-all-but-name.
Most of the rest are low-information types that don't pay much attention.

Darkman124 posted...

the 1/3 independent support is what truly astounds me

that republicans are generally either morons or single-issue voters (ie libertarians) willing to make a deal with the idiot devil to achieve their policy goals is no surprise to me

This. I'm guessing a lot of alt-right/anti-establishment (surprises me any of them could support Trump but there seems to be) identified as independent because that's the only thing that makes a lick of sense to me here.
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Darkman124 posted...

the 1/3 independent support is what truly astounds me

that republicans are generally either morons or single-issue voters (ie libertarians) willing to make a deal with the idiot devil to achieve their policy goals is no surprise to me

2016 was not an easy election for conservatives. You either had to side with someone who would advance your causes but was a dangerously unqualified idiot....or side with a qualified, competent politician who would most likely make numerous choices you disagreed with.

Thankfully I live in Chicago, so my vote doesn't count for a damn thing.
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trump could molest a 7 year old girl on live TV and the majority of republicans would approve of the way he bad touched her
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SideshowBob311 posted...

Darkman124 posted...

the 1/3 independent support is what truly astounds me

that republicans are generally either morons or single-issue voters (ie libertarians) willing to make a deal with the idiot devil to achieve their policy goals is no surprise to me

2016 was not an easy election for conservatives. You either had to side with someone who would advance your causes but was a dangerously unqualified idiot....or side with a qualified, competent politician who would most likely make numerous choices you disagreed with.

Thankfully I live in Chicago, so my vote doesn't count for a damn thing.

Do you personally feel like the "right" choice was made?

Aye posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

Darkman124 posted...

the 1/3 independent support is what truly astounds me

that republicans are generally either morons or single-issue voters (ie libertarians) willing to make a deal with the idiot devil to achieve their policy goals is no surprise to me

2016 was not an easy election for conservatives. You either had to side with someone who would advance your causes but was a dangerously unqualified idiot....or side with a qualified, competent politician who would most likely make numerous choices you disagreed with.

Thankfully I live in Chicago, so my vote doesn't count for a damn thing.

Do you personally feel like the "right" choice was made?

I honestly don't know. While he's clearly a screeching halfwit that I wouldn't trust to run a 7-11, let alone a major world power....he'll be gone in two more years and we'll have a solidly conservative supreme court for several decades. Damaged foreign relations can be pretty easily repaired by the next administration, tariffs can be repealed or scaled down to acceptable levels. I think as long as America can escape the Trump administration without any long-term damage, then yeah I'm happy with the choice.
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SideshowBob311 posted...

he'll be gone in two more years

or in 6

SideshowBob311 posted...

2016 was not an easy election for conservatives. You either had to side with someone who would advance your causes but was a dangerously unqualified idiot....or side with a qualified, competent politician who would most likely make numerous choices you disagreed with.

Thankfully I live in Chicago, so my vote doesn't count for a damn thing.

I agree with this mindset, but I should point out that trump's voting base was more or less the traditional republican base, so it seems the choice wasn't all that hard for most.
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SideshowBob311 posted...

Aye posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

Darkman124 posted...

the 1/3 independent support is what truly astounds me

that republicans are generally either morons or single-issue voters (ie libertarians) willing to make a deal with the idiot devil to achieve their policy goals is no surprise to me

2016 was not an easy election for conservatives. You either had to side with someone who would advance your causes but was a dangerously unqualified idiot....or side with a qualified, competent politician who would most likely make numerous choices you disagreed with.

Thankfully I live in Chicago, so my vote doesn't count for a damn thing.

Do you personally feel like the "right" choice was made?

I honestly don't know. While he's clearly a screeching halfwit that I wouldn't trust to run a 7-11, let alone a major world power....he'll be gone in two more years and we'll have a solidly conservative supreme court for several decades. Damaged foreign relations can be pretty easily repaired by the next administration, tariffs can be repealed or scaled down to acceptable levels. I think as long as America can escape the Trump administration without any long-term damage, then yeah I'm happy with the choice.

The problem is that there's no reason to believe this couldn't happen again. The weakness and instability of our democracy has been exposed. The extent of the decay is bad, and reversing it will take a lot of bold policy. It's perfectly believable to me that the Democrats could end up successfully quashing their progressive/socialist wing and delivering essentially a repeat of Clinton/Obama presidencies where the Republicans quickly recapture the House and Senate and we basically end right back here.
It really can't be emphasized enough how damaging the fact that you can no longer trust American diplomacy beyond a particular president's term.

SideshowBob311 posted...

I honestly don't know. While he's clearly a screeching halfwit that I wouldn't trust to run a 7-11, let alone a major world power....he'll be gone in two more years and we'll have a solidly conservative supreme court for several decades. Damaged foreign relations can be pretty easily repaired by the next administration, tariffs can be repealed or scaled down to acceptable levels. I think as long as America can escape the Trump administration without any long-term damage, then yeah I'm happy with the choice.

a republican majority in the supreme court isnt a good thing
you need balance so one side doesnt dominate or else you could have things like repealing gay marriage or overturning roe vs wade

and damaged foreign relations are not something so easily fixed
trump has done damage to your country that will take decades to fix if it even can be fixed
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I want to know why Republicans would not side with Hitler if this was 1940s Germany. Don't give a shit about the well-being of the citizens. Wants to go to war with the world. Believes only America matters. Supports dictators over our allies. Supports the notion of punishing people based on beliefs against who they are. Supports encampment.

Seriously, why wouldn't a Republican who still sides with Trump side with Hitler? Honest question at this point.
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yusiko posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

I honestly don't know. While he's clearly a screeching halfwit that I wouldn't trust to run a 7-11, let alone a major world power....he'll be gone in two more years and we'll have a solidly conservative supreme court for several decades. Damaged foreign relations can be pretty easily repaired by the next administration, tariffs can be repealed or scaled down to acceptable levels. I think as long as America can escape the Trump administration without any long-term damage, then yeah I'm happy with the choice.

a republican majority in the supreme court isnt a good thing
you need balance so one side doesnt dominate or else you could have things like repealing gay marriage or overturning roe vs wade

and damaged foreign relations are not something so easily fixed
trump has done damage to your country that will take decades to fix if it even can be fixed

I think the bigger ticket items like Roe v. Wade and gay marriage are safe because Roberts and potentially Kavanaugh have a strong enough respect for the law to not let their personal feelings cloud judgment.

As for foreign relations....I think they're going to be easier to fix than most people would imagine. As long as Trump doesn't get us stuck in long term treaties/pacts/etc, I think it will be business as usual once we have a competent leader again.
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the EU needs to read up on offensive realism and get real about America.

shockthemonkey posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

yusiko posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

I honestly don't know. While he's clearly a screeching halfwit that I wouldn't trust to run a 7-11, let alone a major world power....he'll be gone in two more years and we'll have a solidly conservative supreme court for several decades. Damaged foreign relations can be pretty easily repaired by the next administration, tariffs can be repealed or scaled down to acceptable levels. I think as long as America can escape the Trump administration without any long-term damage, then yeah I'm happy with the choice.

a republican majority in the supreme court isnt a good thing
you need balance so one side doesnt dominate or else you could have things like repealing gay marriage or overturning roe vs wade

and damaged foreign relations are not something so easily fixed
trump has done damage to your country that will take decades to fix if it even can be fixed

I think the bigger ticket items like Roe v. Wade and gay marriage are safe because Roberts and potentially Kavanaugh have a strong enough respect for the law to not let their personal feelings cloud judgment.

As for foreign relations....I think they're going to be easier to fix than most people would imagine. As long as Trump doesn't get us stuck in long term treaties/pacts/etc, I think it will be business as usual once we have a competent leader again.

Why would anyone on the planet make a deal with the US if there is a strong chance its going to be dismantled in less than a decade?

The same can be said about pretty much any country. 10+ years of ideological continuity in government is unheard of. Well, other than Russia, and only lately.
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How dare people have an opinion

SideshowBob311 posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

yusiko posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

I honestly don't know. While he's clearly a screeching halfwit that I wouldn't trust to run a 7-11, let alone a major world power....he'll be gone in two more years and we'll have a solidly conservative supreme court for several decades. Damaged foreign relations can be pretty easily repaired by the next administration, tariffs can be repealed or scaled down to acceptable levels. I think as long as America can escape the Trump administration without any long-term damage, then yeah I'm happy with the choice.

a republican majority in the supreme court isnt a good thing
you need balance so one side doesnt dominate or else you could have things like repealing gay marriage or overturning roe vs wade

and damaged foreign relations are not something so easily fixed
trump has done damage to your country that will take decades to fix if it even can be fixed

I think the bigger ticket items like Roe v. Wade and gay marriage are safe because Roberts and potentially Kavanaugh have a strong enough respect for the law to not let their personal feelings cloud judgment.

As for foreign relations....I think they're going to be easier to fix than most people would imagine. As long as Trump doesn't get us stuck in long term treaties/pacts/etc, I think it will be business as usual once we have a competent leader again.

Why would anyone on the planet make a deal with the US if there is a strong chance its going to be dismantled in less than a decade?

The same can be said about pretty much any country. 10+ years of ideological continuity in government is unheard of. Well, other than Russia, and only lately.

There's a big difference between what you're trying to say and what he meant.

Canada under the Liberals is not the same as under the Conservatives, but they haven't gone ahead and dismantled everything the Conservatives did.
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It's like they live in a different reality to the rest of the world. Or are so determined to support their guy, they will do it no matter what and will never do anything that could even hint at suggesting they agree with "the other guy"
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I don't agree with how Trump handled his meeting with Putin, but I think people are making too big a deal of this. Even with this setback, Trump is still the best president we've had in a long time IMO.
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Ask Trump supporters the same thing just replace Obama with Trump and see what happens
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This topic is just one giant flame. Needs to be locked.
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MedzXVIII posted...

Ask Trump supporters the same thing just replace Obama with Trump and see what happens

I mean, this could be said about both parties though.

SSJosHBK_Blue posted...

MedzXVIII posted...

Ask Trump supporters the same thing just replace Obama with Trump and see what happens

I mean, this could be said about both parties though.

True
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