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_Goggalor_
07/14/18 4:00:20 PM
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For or against the death penalty? - Results (4 votes)
For
50% (2 votes)
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Against
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Well? I'm all for it.
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hockeybub89
07/14/18 4:00:42 PM
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TheRealDill2000
07/14/18 4:02:06 PM
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gandalfl0
07/14/18 4:02:19 PM
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Why would you want the government to be allowed to kill you
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alt_no_1_loves
07/14/18 4:03:12 PM
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Vehemently against.
gandalfl0 posted...
Why would you want the government to be allowed to kill you

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_Goggalor_
07/14/18 4:03:42 PM
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gandalfl0 posted...
Why would you want the government to be allowed to kill you


I'm not a child killer or a PoS rapist so I don't have anything to worry about. We only execute scum.
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tamashiini
07/14/18 4:11:13 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I'm all against it.


TheRealDill2000 posted...
Eye for an eye and everyone goes blind.


gandalfl0 posted...
Why would you want the government to be allowed to kill you

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Xatrion
07/14/18 4:13:10 PM
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In theory, for.

In current practice, very much against.
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thecoolgu
07/14/18 4:15:03 PM
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I'm against it, give them a life sentence instead. Build more prisons to make room.

If someone does something bad enough that their life deserves to end for it, don't give them a quick painless death. Punish them. Have them think looooong and hard about what they did in a cold, sad environment for the rest of their life, and preferably, for eternity.

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Zikten
07/14/18 4:15:09 PM
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against. too many people have been later proven innocent. and the justice system is known to be full of corruption and/or incompetence

once you kill them, you can never take it back. and most of the western world doesn't do it anymore. I think America and Japan are the only 2 First World nations that still have the death penalty
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Zikten
07/14/18 4:15:41 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
We only execute scum.

look at my post above. in history we know we have executed innocent people before
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/14/18 4:16:12 PM
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I am for it in very certain circumstances.

A mass killer who confesses to their crime and shows no mental illness? Yup

A child predator who confesses to their crime and shows no mental illness? Yup

Basically, people who confess and show no signs of mental illness which would "explain" their behavior. If you are an unrepentant horrifying human being, we don't need to have you around.
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CasualGuy
07/14/18 4:18:30 PM
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The prison system in no way rehabilitates criminals. In fact, it makes a lot of them even worse.

So I'm for it.
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C_Pain
07/14/18 4:19:11 PM
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gandalfl0 posted...
Why would you want the government to be allowed to kill you

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tennisdude818
07/14/18 4:22:18 PM
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I think Im for it in theory, but not in the inefficient way the state actually does it. It costs more to execute someone than to lock them up for life.

If you are a child rapist/murderer I dont want to pay for your food and shelter. Id rather pay for a bullet.
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Ilishe
07/14/18 4:23:58 PM
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Very much against.

There's worse fates than death. Much worse.
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tennisdude818
07/14/18 4:26:55 PM
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gandalfl0 posted...
Why would you want the government to be allowed to kill you


It has the power to lock you up for the rest of your life. Im as libertarian as they come but if this post is an appeal to libertarianism I dont get it. Even in a Rothbardian free society, dirtbags might get executed.
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kingdrake2
07/14/18 4:28:08 PM
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only in favor if the criminal takes a life.
price to be payed for the piper.

they're just lucky it's done in a humane method.
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Vicious_Dios
07/14/18 4:28:58 PM
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Hard for.
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tennisdude818
07/14/18 4:29:32 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
only in favor if the criminal takes a life.
price to be payed for the piper.

they're just lucky it's done in a humane method.


People who mess with kids deserve it as well IMHO.
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vocedelmorte
07/14/18 4:31:37 PM
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I only against it because mistakes happens and i don't want innocent people to get executed
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LinksLiege
07/14/18 4:35:38 PM
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100% against.
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Sativa_Rose
07/14/18 4:36:59 PM
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Against. I support life in prison without parole, and even that is becoming a bit controversial in left wing circles these days. I've heard people call for the abolition of life without parole because it's (in their minds) cruel and unusual punishment.

Sorry, but mass murderers like the white supremacist Dylann Roof should never be allowed to walk free again.
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SailorGoon
07/14/18 4:38:24 PM
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I'm like @Awesome
I'm all for the sexual assault penalty.
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Cosmic_Diabetic
07/14/18 4:46:07 PM
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CasualGuy posted...
The prison system in no way rehabilitates criminals.


Except for the thousands of men and women who have, you know, been rehabilitated from going to prison....
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Ryvell
07/14/18 4:47:13 PM
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Way too many examples of people in death row being found not guilty when new evidence came to light for me to be comfortable with the death penalty.
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luigi13579
07/14/18 4:48:45 PM
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I'm against it personally. We hardly trust the government to fill in potholes, and the death penalty is obviously a much bigger responsibility than that. It's irreversible, unlike prison (although obviously being locked up wrongfully is terrible too). As Zikten said, we know (to a reasonable degree of certainty) that innocent people have been executed.

Maybe we could only do it in cases where it's certain that the person in question committed a heinous crime, but I think that's harder than it seems to do in practice and still wouldn't be totally fool-proof / abuse-proof.

What's the evidence on it being a deterrent? I think I looked into that once, but I don't recall finding any unbiased, quality research.

Also, I've always wondered if the death penalty might even contribute to crime (e.g. vigilantism). It normalizes violence, vengeance, dehumanization, etc. (although a few things do to be fair). Some say video games (and other media) cause violence, but what exactly does the death penalty say to people? One is fictional and one is real. Maybe I'm going a bit far with that, but it's an interesting thing to think about.
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Caelthus
07/14/18 4:52:38 PM
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thecoolgu posted...
I'm against it, give them a life sentence instead. Build more prisons to make room.

If someone does something bad enough that their life deserves to end for it, don't give them a quick painless death. Punish them. Have them think looooong and hard about what they did in a cold, sad environment for the rest of their life, and preferably, for eternity.

Edit: a word

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Uncle_Drew
07/14/18 4:54:53 PM
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For
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Axiom
07/14/18 4:55:36 PM
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I'm not against it but I do recognize the benefits of abolishing it and would have no problem if it happened. There's really no good logical argument for it
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
07/14/18 4:57:05 PM
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Some people like rapists, child molesters, and certain spree killers need to be executed.
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hollow_shrine
07/14/18 4:59:17 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I'm all against it.

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Paragon21XX
07/14/18 5:11:54 PM
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Zikten posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
We only execute scum.

look at my post above. in history we know we have executed innocent people before

Oh, you mean the ones sentenced and executed before modern forensics became a thing? How many "innocents" have been sentenced to death because of forensic evidence pointing to their guilt?
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CircleOfManias
07/14/18 5:12:10 PM
#34:


_Goggalor_ posted...

I'm not a child killer or a PoS rapist so I don't have anything to worry about. We only execute scum.


About 5% of people that are executed are innocent.
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nemu
07/14/18 5:12:43 PM
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I'm for it if there is definitive proof of the crime, and the crime is horrible enough.
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happibivouac
07/14/18 5:13:22 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
gandalfl0 posted...
Why would you want the government to be allowed to kill you


I'm not a child killer or a PoS rapist so I don't have anything to worry about. We only execute scum.

To be fair if you're a child killer or rapist, you'll likely get killed in prison anyway.

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Some people like rapists, child molesters, and certain spree killers need to be executed.

What certain spree killers should be excluded? They still murdered.
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TheCyborgNinja
07/14/18 5:14:17 PM
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For. I think three strikes you're dead is fair. You're not going to change and society shouldn't continue to tolerate your existence or pay your room and board.
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Renault
07/14/18 5:14:49 PM
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googler beats his family members and he's calling other people scum lmao
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Foppe
07/14/18 5:14:57 PM
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Another downside is that some seems to wait forever to be executed.
We got people that got out 30 years later just because they were proved innocent, and in some cases the trial that put them behind bars in the first place was a joke.
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1NfamousACE_2
07/14/18 5:16:08 PM
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Prison is meant to rehabilitate, correct?

How can you rehabilitate someone who won't ever be released?

Premeditated murder deserves the death penalty.
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Peter_Giffyndor
07/14/18 5:19:58 PM
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For, if guilt is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt and especially if the accused fully admits to their crimes.

Like people that kill their own parents, dark shit like that.
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Freddie_Mercury
07/14/18 5:21:17 PM
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Foppe posted...
Another downside is that some seems to wait forever to be executed.


dot dot dot
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DemonBuffet
07/14/18 5:21:51 PM
#43:


Peter_Giffyndor posted...
For, if guilt is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt and especially if the accused fully admits to their crimes.

Like people that kill their own parents, dark shit like that.


That.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/14/18 5:23:29 PM
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Informed person: "I'm against it"

Uninformed person:

_Goggalor_ posted...
I'm not a child killer or a PoS rapist so I don't have anything to worry about. We only execute scum.
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Zikten
07/14/18 5:30:43 PM
#45:


CasualGuy posted...
The prison system in no way rehabilitates criminals. In fact, it makes a lot of them even worse.

So I'm for it.

wtf

that's a very screwed up thing to think

"prison makes people worse so when we send people to prison let's just kill them"
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southcoast09
07/14/18 5:32:36 PM
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Im for the death penalty. Many people make a rush decision and say theyre mostly against it.

The death penalty isnt exactly used for any crime but murder and treason, so if you support the death penalty to any degree, you should vote that you support it. Its only used in serious situations.

I do think that lethal injection is inhumane, however. I think that the firing squad or the guillotine is a better choice.
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Zikten
07/14/18 5:32:56 PM
#47:


Paragon21XX posted...
Oh, you mean the ones sentenced and executed before modern forensics became a thing? How many "innocents" have been sentenced to death because of forensic evidence pointing to their guilt?

it still happens today or there wouldn't be a thing called The Innocence Project or tons of documentaries about innocent people in prison or on death row
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_Goggalor_
07/14/18 5:34:08 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Informed person: "I'm against it"

Uninformed person:

_Goggalor_ posted...
I'm not a child killer or a PoS rapist so I don't have anything to worry about. We only execute scum.


How about no. Disagree all you want, but I know what I'm talking about. I know all the supposed downsides. It's still worth it.
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DarkTransient
07/14/18 5:34:19 PM
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For it, subject to a fair trial, and for serious offences and/or repeat offenders only.

However, I attach no conditions regarding how the penalty is carried out, beyond that it should be done as cheaply as possible.
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Zikten
07/14/18 5:34:34 PM
#50:


southcoast09 posted...
Im for the death penalty. Many people make a rush decision and say theyre mostly against it.

The death penalty isnt exactly used for any crime but murder and treason, so if you support the death penalty to any degree, you should vote that you support it. Its only used in serious situations.

except that sometimes we get it wrong. I agree that murderers should deserve to die and face what they did to someone else. but the problem is we aren't perfect. if even one innocent person is executed than fuck it, ban the death penalty
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