Current Events > Black man confronted at his own pool by police (#42554)

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https://twitter.com/MuslimIQ/status/1017195310165254144
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Usual suspects will be here soon

Isolated incident!
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Do we have all of the facts yet?
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So now twitter is the latest reliable source of information in displaying the exact and strict facts regarding an event ? Shouldn't we perhaps wait for a proper media to relate the info ?
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DarthWendy posted...

So now twitter is the latest reliable source of information in displaying the exact and strict facts regarding an event ? Shouldn't we perhaps wait for a proper media to relate the info ?

It's a tweet sharing the video of a video blog/journalism page
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

It's a tweet sharing the video of a video blog/journalism page

I highly edited video that conveniently doesn't show any of the "claims" the "victim" made against the officer.

iClockwork posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

It's a tweet sharing the video of a video blog/journalism page

A highly edited video that conveniently doesn't show any of the "claims" the "victim" made against the officer.

Yes it does.
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Usual suspects right on cue

Didn't even watch the video no doubt about that
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ledbowman posted...

Yes it does.

Could you show the part in the video where the cop said he, "jumped the fence" like was claimed.

pinky0926 posted...

Didn't even watch the video no doubt about that

Yup watched all 2:12 of it. All I saw was a man holding out a random key and becoming increasingly irate instead of speaking with the officer and lady civilly.

iClockwork posted...

ledbowman posted...

Yes it does.

Could you show the part in the video where the cop said he, "jumped the fence" like was claimed.

pinky0926 posted...

Didn't even watch the video no doubt about that

Yup watched all 2:12 of it. All I saw was a man holding out a random key and becoming increasingly irate instead of speaking with the officer and lady civilly.

I would not be calm if a stranger told me to get off the property I pay rent at either.

But I'm glad to see you tone policing this conversation instead of actually addressing the issue at hand. Clearly the problem here is that he's upset and not that he's being treated wrongfully.
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pinky0926 posted...

I would not be calm if a stranger told me to get off the property I pay rent at either.

You're so hotheaded you wouldn't be able to have a mature conversation and diffuse the situation?

You might need to work a little bit on yourself.

pinky0926 posted...

tone policing this conversation instead of actually addressing the issue at hand

The only issue is that this man is causing a scene and escalating a conversation into a confrontation.

iClockwork posted...

You're so hotheaded you wouldn't be able to have a mature conversation and diffuse the situation?

You might need to work a little bit on yourself.

Diffuse what situation? Once a cop tells you to do something there's no situation to diffuse. You comply or you get in trouble for resisting arrest.

You actually think you're so charming you could talk your way out of this, lmao

Reminder: when someone else is wrong and is demanding you do something you don't have to do, the onus is not on you to not be angry. That's a perfectly acceptable situation to be angry.
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pinky0926 posted...

You comply or you get in trouble for resisting arrest.

So then why was the man continuing to argue?

pinky0926 posted...

You actually think you're so charming you could talk your way out of this, lmao

I have before many times, yes.

If someone asked me why I was in or around the apartment building i live in, insisted I was trespassing, and tried to call the cops on me I wouldn't get mad, honestly I would just laugh at them. What's the worst they could do, call the cops on me yeah? It's very easy to show proof of residence, there's always some kind of paperwork you have to have signed to live somewhere legally and you're supposed to keep a copy of it. Even if you don't have that anymore, it's easy enough if you've been there for any length of time to grab a piece of mail with your name on it.

Or hell, even easier, if someone tried accosting me like that, I'd just go and check my mail, since you have to have a key for that, given by the people you're renting from.

The woman was being a racist bitch no doubt, but the dude had many easier options in how to deal with the problem instead of getting defensive and belligerent.

Pro tip: If you find yourself being in any kind of confrontation with the police, don't get defensive, that just makes them suspicious. On the flipside, don't get on the offensive either, since that won't end well for you. Just keep level and cooperate. This works for anyone.
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iClockwork posted...

So then why was the man continuing to argue?

Because he didn't want to sit down and shut up because he didn't feel he'd have to.

I have before many times, yes.

You're so slick, I'm in awe.

But nah I lack your cool steely unflappability, I'm sorry. In this situation I'd be fucking raging and would raise hell. Genuinely very fucking angry if someone pulled this on me.

Now let me ask you something: Putting aside how you think he should have handled it, why are you not addressing what the cop/property manager was doing? Why can't you appreciate that is the actual issue here and not however calm the guy should have reacted to how he was being treated?
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pinky0926 posted...

iClockwork posted...

So then why was the man continuing to argue?

Because he didn't want to sit down and shut up because he didn't feel he'd have to.

I have before many times, yes.

You're so slick, I'm in awe.

But nah I'm sorry I lack your cool steely unflappability, I'm sorry. In this situation I'd be fucking raging and would raise hell. Genuinely very fucking angry if someone pulled this on me.

Now let me ask you something: Putting aside how you think he should have handled it, why are you not addressing what the cop/property manager was doing? Why can't you appreciate that is the actual issue here and not however calm the guy should have reacted to how he was being treated?

Because he's trolling.
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Everyone is laughing and making jokes/memes but one of these times a "bad apple" cop who's"having a bad day" or who "fears for his life" is going to show up and somebody is going to end up shot dead. Has Trump addressed this at all?
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AsianFury2020 posted...

Everyone is laughing and making jokes/memes but one of these times a "bad apple" cop who's"having a bad day" or who "fears for his life" is going to show up and somebody is going to end up shot dead. Has Trump addressed this at all?

If/when that happens, it's usually a result of two things. The cop in question having had inadequate training and/or having the wrong kind of mentality to be a cop in the first place, and the suspect/victim/fair next not cooperating fully with the police as they should have to avoid making more problems with yourself.

People forget, the cops aren't your friends, they're not there to listen to you, and they're not there to care about your problems. They're there to deal with whatever situation is going down and finish it, whether someone ends up with a ticket, in cuffs, or dead.

Your friends are the ones that should be keeping you from getting in trouble with the cops.
The ones who will listen to you are friends, family, and your lawyer after you get in trouble with the cops
The ones who are there to care about your problems are your friends and family.
Unless a friend or family member of yours is in fact a police officer, they are not those things. The cops are there to do a job, and for a lot of them that's all it is. The cops who do the job out of a sense of duty or a feeling of obligation to improve their community are few and far between.

They are there to gather facts about what is going on, which in most cases is extremely difficult due to a person's heightened emotions and irrational thinking, and then decide on what the best resolution to that situation is. In those scenarios sometimes yeah, they make the wrong decision, arrest the wrong person, and sometimes shoot the wrong person. I challenge anyone on this board to be able to do the job as well as any average cop. (note: the "average" cop you'll never see on anything bigger than a local newspaper or a small note on the nightly news. They don't do anything ridiculously stupid, or anything incredibly heroic either)

I could go on this rant for ages, but I think I'm going to end it here. I know how it feels to have to make a split second choice in a high stress environment, but I don't expect many others here, if any, to have been in active combat zones before.
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