Current Events > New GOP bill proposes 15-year sentence for people engaging in antifa behavior

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I don't need a mask to tell Nazis that they're scum. Never have, never will.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

"Antifa is just against fascism!!!!!"

*posts Twitter pic of Antifa meeting where literal Communist regalia is hung up on the walls*

Communism is fascism and has methods that would make some of the worst people in history happy in their graves.
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The Catgirl Fondler posted...

My only qualm is that it doesn't target Neo-Nazi/KKK as well.

I have no love for the alt-right or ctrl-left, but I hate it even more when the rules aren't being fair. Take them both to task or leave them both alone, no playing favorites.

How does it not apply to them?
If they wear a mask, they'll be punished just the same.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

There's self-declared communist CEmen who literally defend the Red Guard. That should tell you guys everything you need to know about why some people here literally defend Antifa.

Why do you lie about this shit all the time? Your boy Trump loves commie Russians anyway so there's no way in which it looks good.
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It won't pass, but it would be hilarious lol.
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asagi_mode_gone posted...

Charlottesville had a group that was openly wielding rifles, chanting racial slurs and calling for ethnic cleansing, at least one person among them fired into a crowd and another purposely drove a car in to a group of protestors. Yet no legislation has been made to prevent or restrict such assemblies in the future.

hmmmmmm
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

"Antifa is just against fascism!!!!!"

*posts Twitter pic of Antifa meeting where literal Communist regalia is hung up on the walls*

I mean, communism is on the opposite end of the political spectrum from fascism, so I imagine communists would be anti-fascist.
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So I guess no more "Let's see what _____________ is up to..." topics.
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Milkman5 posted...

SJW

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will not pass. it is already against the law to riot
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They have nothing to worry about if they stop being terrorists.
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Mal_Fet posted...

Because you can arrest the whole group for assisting violent assholes by hiding them in a sea of lookalikes.

Seems pretty obvious

But how can you arrest them all if they're all masked? Won't they just run and never be identified? And how can you arrest everyone for the actions of some? The fuck is that fascist shit?
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i'm fine with this if we can lock up all the neo nazis and klansmen too
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mario2000 posted...

i'm fine with this if we can lock up all the neo nazis and klansmen too

That's a scary amount of government overreach that you're fine with.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

There's self-declared communist CEmen who literally defend the Red Guard. That should tell you guys everything you need to know about why some people here literally defend Antifa.

Why do you lie about this shit all the time? Your boy Trump loves commie Russians anyway so there's no way in which it looks good.

I have posted proof about it recently. It's not a lie
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Mal_Fet posted...

Antifa is a literal domestic terrorist group, soooooo who cares

I've never seen anyone miss a point so hard before.
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mario2000 posted...

i'm fine with this if we can lock up all the neo nazis and klansmen too

Well this law would also target klansmen because the only things outlined in the bill are 1. wearing a mask and 2. Being in a group that is committing assault

You guys don't care about that though.
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probably because the KKK don't fucking weird the hoods and masks like they used to and everyone knows that

they don't have to, they can proudly walk around and march, carry nazi flags and chant for minority genocide and people like you will be here to defend them and say they aren't nazis
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Metro2 posted...

So? Eighty years ago, Mitsubishi made airplanes. Whats your point? Its become a group of anarchistic, violent cowards who are scared to show their faces.

Oh, btw? There are no fascists in office. Antifa is just violent disrupters who try to scare people into not speaking publicly for candidates that antifa doesnt like. Thats domestic terrorism. No two ways about it.

What do you have to say about that?
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metralo posted...

probably because the KKK don't fucking weird the hoods and masks like they used to and everyone knows that

I'm pretty sure they still wear the hoods

And if they don't, then it's super easy to identify and arrest them if their face is exposed, is it not?
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They need to swap the 5 and the 1 for sentencing.
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Fuck yea!
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That is a good thing. Being against a disgusting ideology does not stop one's own ideology from being disgusting. And half the time, you can't tell if they want to fight people who hold actual nazi beliefs or some guy they just label as a nazi because they have the mindset of a group of five year olds yelling about cooties.

"How do we fight these antifascists?"

"Fascism, of course!"

Yeah I'll totally be fine with riots if this shit passes. Antifa wear masks for a reason since alt righters love to dox people and cops love gassing protestors.
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They literally see a Donald Trump hat or shirt and physically assault people. Fact.

If the people taking up for then were correct, then they would only assault people who dressed as Nazis. Saying that people who disagree with you politically are Nazis is both unintelligent and bigoted.

I agree with the poster who said that a 51 year sentence would be better. Domestic terrorism should carry a much more harsh punishment than 15 years (which really means about two).
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

"How do we fight these antifascists?"

If Antifa are actually anti-fascist then why do they keep assaulting people who aren't fascists
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spikethedevil posted...

I agree only if neo nazi groups and the KKK face the same sentencing.

This.

But under Trump's America's it's unlikely. It's a springtime for White nationalism right now.
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metralo posted...

probably because the KKK don't fucking weird the hoods and masks like they used to and everyone knows that

they don't have to, they can proudly walk around and march, carry nazi flags and chant for minority genocide and people like you will be here to defend them and say they aren't nazis

CHURCH
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Mal_Fet posted...

Blue_Dream87 posted...

"How do we fight these antifascists?"

If Antifa are actually anti-fascist then why do they keep assaulting people who aren't fascists

Prolly a bunch who are just assholes, but I'm sure the ones just protesting neo nazi rallies are there to fight fascism.

Bad eggs simply happen when something isnt organized. Had the same shit with BLM. Those types should (and do) get prosecuted for their assaults, but protesting fascist ideologies shouldn't be punished with ridiculous sentences.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

spikethedevil posted...

I agree only if neo nazi groups and the KKK face the same sentencing.

This.

But under Trump's America's it's unlikely. It's a springtime for White nationalism right now.

Not that I agree with anything the neo nazis or KKK stand for, but, other than the one prime example of Charlottesville, how often is either group in the news for starting physical violence? Both groups should be socially reviled for sure, but the problem with antifa is the indiscriminate violence bolstered by masked anonymity. Nobody wants to make their gatherings illegal because they are a bunch of morons like the other two groups.

hockeybub89 posted...

mario2000 posted...

i'm fine with this if we can lock up all the neo nazis and klansmen too

That's a scary amount of government overreach that you're fine with.

It's fine, we need an America without extreme hatred from any side.
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metralo posted...

probably because the KKK don't fucking weird the hoods and masks like they used to and everyone knows that

they don't have to, they can proudly walk around and march, carry nazi flags and chant for minority genocide and people like you will be here to defend them and say they aren't nazis

You guys are the ones who literally try to label ANYTHING that goes against your narrative as offensive or hate speech.

Guess what? Its not. Your party had WAY too much control. The GOP Rinos allowed obama to do EVERYTHING he wanted. Now, you guys are spitting mad that we not only won the White House, but people are acting surprised that we also got to pick the new Supreme Court justices.

Those picks will protect our rights from a future radical democrat. Now, when they get one in power (Im thinking 2028?), they will have a proper system of checks and balances to make sure they dont start with that anti gun crap and the monitoring/censoring.
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Pretty sure this was just to make it Nationwide, although I do think the law is oddly worded for it anyhow.

Laws preventing the KKK from rioting like in Alabama were already being used to unmask and punish Antifa

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/antifa-thugs-unmasked-in-alabama/

Regardless groups like Antifa need to get tossed they aren't helping anyone, I don't get how people defend them.

(And I know that site isn't great, but they just came up with the story I wanted when I posted it)
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Metro2 posted...

Kek

Rotfrontkampferbund actually fought them in the street(and got whooped) while antifa did nothing

hockeybub89 posted...

mario2000 posted...

i'm fine with this if we can lock up all the neo nazis and klansmen too

That's a scary amount of government overreach that you're fine with.

oh alright i guess we can lock up antifa but let the actual violent racist thugs run free

that makes sense
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I think a mental examination would suffice
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Mal_Fet posted...

Antifa is a literal domestic terrorist group, soooooo who cares

Terrorism isn't inherently a negative thing

Taken without the connotations that the West have branded it with, it is simply violence used for political purposes

This is often a tool of oppression, but it is also a tool to fight against oppression
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QueenCarly posted...

Terrorism isn't inherently a negative thing

Quote of the month
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SageHarpuia posted...

QueenCarly posted...

Terrorism isn't inherently a negative thing

Quote of the month

are you saying this ironically or unironically because after Dear Leader pardoning terrorists i honestly don't know
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Liberals defending domestic terrorists now.

Trump is so going to win again.

until antifa start expanding violent and fear-inducing behavior toward the general public rather than in counter-protest-gone-wrong situations, it's rather silly to call them terrorists

... unless you believe that any and all violence and property damage in a riot is terrorism, which is even sillier. call it what it is, rather than using a loaded word like "terrorist". they're not ISIS

btw, in case the previous 150 posts weren't enough, this law is dumb because violence and property damage are already illegal (unless given the okay by the government LOL)

so today is "Antifa are dangerous terrorists" day

meaning tomorrow is gonna be "Antifa are a bunch of limp-wristed soyboys" day
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southcoast09 posted...

The GOP Rinos allowed obama to do EVERYTHING he wanted.

Not even you believe this.
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treewojima posted...

until antifa start expanding violent and fear-inducing behavior toward the general public rather than in counter-protest-gone-wrong situations, it's rather silly to call them terrorists

... unless you believe that any and all violence and property damage in a riot is terrorism, which is even sillier. call it what it is, rather than using a loaded word like "terrorist". they're not ISIS

btw, in case the previous 150 posts weren't enough, this law is dumb because violence and property damage are already illegal (unless given the okay by the government LOL)

Starting to believe "terrorist" is the rights equivalent to the extreme lefts "racist". They're not subtle in using language to make one side seem less sympathetic.

Call them rioters, criminals, idiots, whatever. But terrorist? This is exactly why people complain when others don't label school shooters and such terrorists. Still remember that abortion clinic bomber where people tried to deny he was a racist. Totally wasn't because he was fighting for their values.
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

treewojima posted...

until antifa start expanding violent and fear-inducing behavior toward the general public rather than in counter-protest-gone-wrong situations, it's rather silly to call them terrorists

... unless you believe that any and all violence and property damage in a riot is terrorism, which is even sillier. call it what it is, rather than using a loaded word like "terrorist". they're not ISIS

btw, in case the previous 150 posts weren't enough, this law is dumb because violence and property damage are already illegal (unless given the okay by the government LOL)

Starting to believe "terrorist" is the rights equivalent to the extreme lefts "racist". They're not subtle in using language to make one side seem less sympathetic.

Call them rioters, criminals, idiots, whatever. But terrorist? This is exactly why people complain when others don't label school shooters and such terrorists. Still remember that abortion clinic bomber where people tried to deny he was a racist. Totally wasn't because he was fighting for their values.

Its acts of violence or intimidation to push a political goal.

Words have meanings. If Antifa doesnt like being called terrorists then they should not use acts of violence or intimidation to push a political goal.
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Nomadic View posted...

Blue_Dream87 posted...

treewojima posted...

until antifa start expanding violent and fear-inducing behavior toward the general public rather than in counter-protest-gone-wrong situations, it's rather silly to call them terrorists

... unless you believe that any and all violence and property damage in a riot is terrorism, which is even sillier. call it what it is, rather than using a loaded word like "terrorist". they're not ISIS

btw, in case the previous 150 posts weren't enough, this law is dumb because violence and property damage are already illegal (unless given the okay by the government LOL)

Starting to believe "terrorist" is the rights equivalent to the extreme lefts "racist". They're not subtle in using language to make one side seem less sympathetic.

Call them rioters, criminals, idiots, whatever. But terrorist? This is exactly why people complain when others don't label school shooters and such terrorists. Still remember that abortion clinic bomber where people tried to deny he was a racist. Totally wasn't because he was fighting for their values.

Its acts of violence or intimidation to push a political goal.

Words have meanings. If Antifa doesnt like being called terrorists then they should not use acts of violence or intimidation to push a political goal.

I'd argue it's less to push a political goal and more countering another political/cultural group with, let's be honest, despicable political goal that the government ignores. So they need to take up arms to fill in and fight that ideology and make sure it doesn't grow. At least that's what they fight for, some will step out of line

Do they target politicians? Are they harming innocents? Do they wish to pass legislation and use violence as a way to fuel that? No, they're fighting against another civilian class, as well as practicing their right to protest, just as the Nazis are allowed. The ones who cross the line should face punishment, but to outright punish the whole group for the actions of few? I'm sorry but I don't believe that's something we as a country should value.
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