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Nomadic View
07/11/18 7:35:59 AM
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Alphamon
07/11/18 7:41:06 AM
#103:


Nomadic View posted...
Good

not a surprise you agree with this
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Master_Bass
07/11/18 7:46:07 AM
#104:


Think of the fascists!
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Mal_Fet
07/11/18 7:48:09 AM
#105:


Anyone who actually thinks Antifa is only a danger to fascists hasn't been paying attention for the last decade.
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Doom_Art
07/11/18 7:49:28 AM
#107:


This seems fairly redundant tbh

This stuff is already a crime
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bover_87
07/11/18 8:16:18 AM
#108:


Let's be honest--this will never pass the Senate, even though Trump would happily sign it. It's 100% pandering, which seems to be working quite well given the responses of the usual suspects here.
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Darkman124
07/11/18 8:17:41 AM
#109:


doesnt matter

wont pass

will get filibustered
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The Great Muta 22
07/11/18 8:31:30 AM
#110:


Mal_Fet posted...
Anyone who actually thinks Antifa is only a danger to fascists hasn't been paying attention for the last decade.


The last decade? Really Mal?

Lmao okay, sure.

Be honest, how pissy were you that every single person arrested for protesting on the inauguration had their charges dropped? Were you more or less pissed at that or the people who pulled down the Robert E Lee statue also didn't get charged?
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The Great Muta 22
07/11/18 8:34:54 AM
#111:


frozenshock posted...
How long until it becomes a crime to be a member of the democratic party?


Not too long. Make no mistake, these fucks would easily get behind supporting something that kicks liberals out of the country.
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Mal_Fet
07/11/18 8:38:14 AM
#112:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Be honest, how pissy were you that every single person arrested for protesting on the inauguration had their charges dropped?

Actually 27(ish) plead guilty to various charges.
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The Great Muta 22
07/11/18 9:02:24 AM
#113:


Mal_Fet posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Be honest, how pissy were you that every single person arrested for protesting on the inauguration had their charges dropped?

Actually 27(ish) plead guilty to various charges.


21, and there's been no jury verdicts despite their pleas and the more time passes the more people are let free. Remember when it was initially like 230 people and you were celebrating here?

Turns out you can't just mass arrest people and charge them all the same based off "evidence" from shit sources like Project Vertias
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Bloodychess
07/11/18 9:26:15 AM
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asagi_mode_gone posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Antifa is a literal domestic terrorist group, soooooo who cares

And MLK Jr. was considered a terrorist but the KKK isn't a terrorist organization, so maybe don't listen to a fascist state and how they define terrorism?

Dont lump violent goons like antifa into MLKs legacy.

Both antifa and the KKK hide their faces for a reason
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VTBM
07/11/18 9:48:29 AM
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Sayoria
07/11/18 9:49:56 AM
#116:


Telling us how to behave, even if not breaking the law. Are we fascist yet?
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FLUFFYGERM
07/11/18 9:57:17 AM
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Correction for some people in this topic: Antifa is not an anti fascist group. It's a domestic terrorism group that seeks to usher in revolutionary violence a la communism.
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0TiamaT0
07/11/18 9:57:23 AM
#118:


ANTIFA dont even have respect for their own kind - trying to block traffic in Berkeley of all places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD1gwliqvG0" data-time="


Who saves the day and keeps the traffic going? Trump supporters, the so-called nazi fascists.
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asagi_mode_gone
07/11/18 10:02:35 AM
#119:


Charlottesville had a group that was openly wielding rifles, chanting racial slurs and calling for ethnic cleansing, at least one person among them fired into a crowd and another purposely drove a car in to a group of protestors. Yet no legislation has been made to prevent or restrict such assemblies in the future.

There's a reason they are going after antifa and not the racists.

Bloodychess posted...
asagi_mode_gone posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Antifa is a literal domestic terrorist group, soooooo who cares

And MLK Jr. was considered a terrorist but the KKK isn't a terrorist organization, so maybe don't listen to a fascist state and how they define terrorism?

Dont lump violent goons like antifa into MLKs legacy.

Both antifa and the KKK hide their faces for a reason


The KKK doesn't get tear gas fired on them. Know who did get tear gassed though? MLK Jr.
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asagi_mode_gone
07/11/18 10:03:46 AM
#120:


0TiamaT0 posted...
ANTIFA dont even have respect for their own kind - trying to block traffic in Berkeley of all places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD1gwliqvG0" data-time="


Who saves the day and keeps the traffic going? Trump supporters, the so-called nazi fascists.


You're ignoring the part where the University in Berkeley was letting a known racist with zero university affiliation speak and that it brought groups of armed out of state people there.
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asagi_mode_gone
07/11/18 10:09:02 AM
#121:


__Blight__ posted...
They are f***ing terrorists. Good.

Ah yes all 1 person that was a literal Nazi who got killed back in what, 1994? Or do you mean the blocked intersections and dozen or so windows and trash cans they've taken down over the years?
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NinjaWarrior455
07/11/18 10:10:39 AM
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I wonder why...
the GOP...
is targeting antifa...
and not other groups..
Hmmmm

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XplodnPnguins92
07/11/18 10:11:03 AM
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this is the most fair, next that ive fair, nextd. prison is the perfect place for cowards hiding behind masks that start riots, damage public property, etc.
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asagi_mode_gone
07/11/18 10:13:14 AM
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XplodnPnguins92 posted...
this is the most fair, next that ive fair, nextd. prison is the perfect place for cowards hiding behind masks that start riots, damage public property, etc.

Last time we had a big antifa presence in portland, the group that the police cited as starting the riot was the racist group that was led by a man who isn't even an Oregon citizen.
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asagi_mode_gone
07/11/18 10:13:32 AM
#125:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
I wonder why...
the GOP...
is targeting antifa...
and not other groups..
Hmmmm

Some of those that burn crosses
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P4wn4g3
07/11/18 10:13:46 AM
#126:


Well now we know just how extreme republicans in power are. Turns out they are actually neo nazi lunatics. I doubt any Democrats are Antifa members, it would be too much like taking a stance.
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asagi_mode_gone
07/11/18 10:16:15 AM
#128:


P4wn4g3 posted...
Well now we know just how extreme republicans in power are. Turns out they are actually neo nazi lunatics. I doubt any Democrats are Antifar members, it would be too much like taking a stance.

Look at how many neo Nazis are running on the ballot this year. If the republican party actually cared to distance themselves from those people they could have propped up a candidate of their own, some random person from amongst their state gop office employment roster or whatnot. They didn't run anyone against the neo Nazi.
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On_The_Edge
07/11/18 10:17:44 AM
#129:


Imagine defending antifa... you guys are a joke
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Villain
07/11/18 10:18:31 AM
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Americans killed by the Alt Right/Nazis in 2017:

Heather Heyer
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-heather-heyer-profile/index.html

Taliesin Namkai Meche
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/max_stabbing_victim_attended_r_1.html#incart_big-photo

Ricky Best
http://taskandpurpose.com/ricky-best-one-2-men-killed-portland-stabbing-army-veteran/

Richard Collins III
https://www.thenation.com/article/lynching-university-maryland-campus/

Timothy Caughman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Timothy_Caughman

Srinivas Kuchibhotla
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Olathe,_Kansas_shooting

Casey Marquez & Francisco Fernandez
https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-mexico-school-shooter-had-secret-life-on-pro-trump-white-supremacy-sites

Charles Davis
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/23/alt-righter-seattle4truth-charged-killing-father-over-conspiracy-theories

Officer Zackari Parrish
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/01/us/colorado-shooting-suspect-military-record/index.html

Buckley Kuhn-Fricker & Scott Fricker
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/teen-charged-with-killing-girlfriends-parents-they-had-worried-he-was-a-neo-nazi/2017/12/23/e2102894-e761-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.32ba34f2ae29

Ibrahima Barry, Mamadou Tanou Barry, Khaled Belkacemi, Aboubaker Thabti, Abdelkrim Hassane, and Azzedine Soufiane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City_mosque_shooting
These victims are Canadian but the killer follows the ideology of the alt right

Americans killed by Antifa in 2017:

Americans killed by the Alt Right/Nazis in 2018:

Blaze Bernstein
https://www.haaretz.com/blaze-bernstein-murder-suspect-displayed-hate-on-social-media-1.5751372

The 17 Victims of the Stoneman Douglas High School Shooting:
Alyssa Alhadeff, Scott Beigel, Martin Duque, Nicholas Dworet, Aaron Feis, Jaime Guttenberg,
Chris Hixon, Luke Hoyer, Cara Loughran, Gina Montalto, Joaquin Oliver, Alaina Petty,
Meadow Pollack, Helena Ramsay, Alex Schachter, Carmen Schentrup, and Peter Wang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting

The 10 Victims of the Santa Fe High School Shooting:
Jared Conard Black, Shana Fisher, Christian Riley Garcia, Aaron Kyle McLeod, Glenda Anne Perkins,
Angelique Ramirez, Sabika Sheikh, Christopher Stone, Cynthia Tisdale, and Kimberly Vaughan
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/18/612286146/shooting-reported-at-high-school-near-houston

Sherell L. Lewis Jr
https://nypost.com/2018/05/31/motorist-brags-about-running-over-some-n-r-on-snapchat/

The 5 Victims of the Annapolis Capital Shooting
Gerald Fischman, Rob Hiaasen, John McNamara, Rebecca Smith, and Wendi Winters
https://bluestatedaily.com/accused-annapolis-shooter-jarrod-ramos-was-inspired-by-the-alt-right-report/

Americans killed by Antifa in 2018:
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DarkTransient
07/11/18 10:19:21 AM
#132:


The extreme vagueness of oppresses and intimidates raises concerns that anyone who simply shows up at a protest in a mask could be put away for a very long time if the bill becomes law.


This is an actual problem. It needs to be more defined. Perhaps "assaults, or makes threats of violence towards" would be better.

But aside from that, there is no problem with this. Antifa need to be shut the fuck down.
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DarkTransient
07/11/18 10:20:57 AM
#133:


Villain posted...


Your list has two fatal flaws - firstly, that you declare anyone as being "alt-right" just because a random source claims they are. And more importantly, that you can only claim a blank record for Antifa because of the attitude of claiming those who commit murder "aren't really part of the movement". Which I'm sure the alt-right also claim about any of theirs who commit it.
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DifferentialEquation
07/11/18 10:22:45 AM
#134:


Tag
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AcFan87
07/11/18 10:22:47 AM
#135:


Imagine thinking this is a bad thing. Those people deserve to be locked up.
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P4wn4g3
07/11/18 10:22:57 AM
#136:


Spooking posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
Imagine defending antifa... you guys are a joke

We may have an antifa or two posting here on GameFAQs that are shaking in their boots.

Lol at the idea that anyone on GameFAQs is involved in activism.
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davyheinz
07/11/18 10:24:10 AM
#138:


Antifa makes the best bagels. Theyre amazing. Its ridiculous that people want to end such an outstanding business.
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The Great Muta 22
07/11/18 10:25:43 AM
#139:


DarkTransient posted...
The extreme vagueness of oppresses and intimidates raises concerns that anyone who simply shows up at a protest in a mask could be put away for a very long time if the bill becomes law.


This is an actual problem. It needs to be more defined. Perhaps "assaults, or makes threats of violence towards" would be better.

But aside from that, there is no problem with this. Antifa need to be shut the fuck down.


Lmao how you think you're going to shut down an idea?
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asagi_mode_gone
07/11/18 10:26:05 AM
#140:


AcFan87 posted...
Imagine thinking this is a bad thing. Those people deserve to be locked up.


Do you want those Nazi groups locked up as well since they actively speak about how they want to kill minorities? Often while in groups with members openly carrying guns?
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ledbowman
07/11/18 10:27:25 AM
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How many attempted murder charges is Fields looking at? 30?
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FLUFFYGERM
07/11/18 10:31:57 AM
#142:


There's self-declared communist CEmen who literally defend the Red Guard. That should tell you guys everything you need to know about why some people here literally defend Antifa.
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Villain
07/11/18 10:35:20 AM
#143:


DarkTransient posted...
firstly, that you declare anyone as being "alt-right" just because a random source claims they are.


Wrong, these are admitted white nationalists, or admitted to have been influenced by said groupd

DarkTransient posted...
And more importantly, that you can only claim a blank record for Antifa because of the attitude of claiming those who commit murder "aren't really part of the movement"


Yet we don't have anyone we can remotely link to antifa

DarkTransient posted...
Which I'm sure the alt-right also claim about any of theirs who commit it.


The alt right has not denounced any of these acts. Hell, they blame Heather Hayer's death on her weight and heart.
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DarkTransient
07/11/18 10:38:35 AM
#144:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
DarkTransient posted...
The extreme vagueness of oppresses and intimidates raises concerns that anyone who simply shows up at a protest in a mask could be put away for a very long time if the bill becomes law.


This is an actual problem. It needs to be more defined. Perhaps "assaults, or makes threats of violence towards" would be better.

But aside from that, there is no problem with this. Antifa need to be shut the fuck down.


Lmao how you think you're going to shut down an idea?


You'd be surprised how quickly people abandon stupid ideas once they realise that going through with those ideas can actually get them in real trouble.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 10:41:22 AM
#145:


I'm fine with this.
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creativerealms
07/11/18 10:42:03 AM
#146:


Good. Antifa are anarchists who often cause damage for the sake of it. Arrest them all.
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The Great Muta 22
07/11/18 10:44:30 AM
#147:


DarkTransient posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
DarkTransient posted...
The extreme vagueness of oppresses and intimidates raises concerns that anyone who simply shows up at a protest in a mask could be put away for a very long time if the bill becomes law.


This is an actual problem. It needs to be more defined. Perhaps "assaults, or makes threats of violence towards" would be better.

But aside from that, there is no problem with this. Antifa need to be shut the fuck down.


Lmao how you think you're going to shut down an idea?


You'd be surprised how quickly people abandon stupid ideas once they realise that going through with those ideas can actually get them in real trouble.


So are you advocating punishing those who simply support an idea but don't break the law?
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treewojima
07/11/18 10:58:15 AM
#148:


Modern antifa is a loosely organized collective of various anti-fascist and anarchist groups that share various degrees of ideological alignment. There is no central leadership or formal structure.

It's like demanding that the entirety of BLM or the alt-right be held legally accountable for the actions of individuals who declare themselves as members.
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PanzerElite
07/11/18 11:03:47 AM
#149:


MrMallard posted...
Antifa is about cleaning the streets of violent Neo-Nazi scum, people who pose an actual threat. They have one reported fatality compared to hundreds caused by the racist dipshits they oppose.

No it isn't. It's about intimidating anyone they don't like.
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The Catgirl Fondler
07/11/18 11:10:21 AM
#150:


My only qualm is that it doesn't target Neo-Nazi/KKK as well.

I have no love for the alt-right or ctrl-left, but I hate it even more when the rules aren't being fair. Take them both to task or leave them both alone, no playing favorites.
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Hop103
07/11/18 11:55:10 AM
#151:


Can't we just ban the group and get it over with.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/11/18 11:56:54 AM
#152:


"Antifa is just against fascism!!!!!"

*posts Twitter pic of Antifa meeting where literal Communist regalia is hung up on the walls*
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