Current Events > Lol today is the third time out of 4 I hurt myself deadlifting

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why does everyone love this excercise so much
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What is it?
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Then stop?
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If you hurt yourself four times, how could the most recent injury be your third?
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Payzmaykr posted...

If you hurt yourself four times, how could the most recent injury be your third?

There was one time when I didnt.

It honestly never makes sense to me.

I can RDL 225x8 with 0 back pain.
I can squat clean below parallel at 255
I can front squat clean 205

But yet any time I try to deadlift more 275 my back rounds, my legs have trouble driving it off the ground, and a single bad rep basically makes it hard to bend over for days.
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Bump
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Record a video of yourself and ask people what youre doing wrong?

Or you know.. go down in weight
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AsucaHayashi posted...

Record a video of yourself and ask people what youre doing wrong?

Or you know.. go down in weight

My second reset on deads now for form, I usually add 10 lbs every week, but I only do them every other Saturday so I add 20 lbs each time.
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Don't add so much
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Vermander posted...

There was one time when I didnt.

You worded that very poorly
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Sada_Pop posted...

Don't add so much

Yeah I may switch to intermediate progression now. The problen is I see all these dudes DLing/squatting 400+ lbs and feel weak.
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Sounds like you have weak hamstring and glutes

Your squat doesnt do as much as you think it works for glutes/hams.
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Thought topic said deeding instead of deadlifting. Im leaving with my disappointment.
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Keep your back tight and work on your glutes/hams.
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Stop adding weight of you can't even handle your current weight with proper form ffs. Stop trying to show off to other dudes at the gym cause nobody there gives a shit about you anyways, they're all focused on themselves and not trying to hurt themselves because they wanted to show off.
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Stop ego lifting. Worry about yourself and not others
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Riosiogo posted...

Sounds like you have weak hamstring and glutes

Your squat doesnt do as much as you think it works for glutes/hams.

Idk, initially I had trouble pushing 315 off the ground which is all quad work.

To me it just doesnt make sense to have an RDL anywhere near my full DL. My squat would effect my pushoff.

After I lowered it to about 255 it wasnt too bad, my form seemed much better as long as I didnt lose focus.

I guess with me its just the fact I have been lifting a year and cant DL 315. Makes me feel like I am doing some very wrong.
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AssultTank posted...

Vermander posted...

Sada_Pop posted...

Don't add so much

Yeah I may switch to intermediate progression now. The problen is I see all these dudes DLing/squatting 400+ lbs and feel weak.

They didn't just magically start out at 400 pounds... They started with much lower weights...

Don't push yourself past what you can do safely just to not feel weak because then you are going to stay weak.

That and he'll just keep hurting himself
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Remember I am not just throwing weight up I dont think I can handle. If I handled 295 last time, why would I hurt myself with 315.

I think what bothers me is the inconsistency. Save for my bench I have basically dropped weight on every excercise in my routine to work on form, and its made me realize I am a lot weaker than I think.
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AssultTank posted...

Inconsistency tells me that you haven't properly developed the muscles in order to handle the weight you're using. Lifting for a year doesn't mean much if you're not doing it properly. Besides, it takes a long time to build strength past a certain point, and that point varies. I remember when I first started rock climbing, I wasn't able to handle a 5.6, within about 3 months I was up to 5.9, but going to 5.10 took another 6 months, and 5.11 took another year. Then I got hurt at work and was never able to climb again. :(

But the progression at the end was slow and hard. Just going from 5.10a to 5.10b, which is a smaller progression than 5.9 to 5.10 took almost as long as the jump from 5.9 to 5.10.

I seem to be consistently able to DL over 245 with good/decent form. There are stupid things sometimes like days Ill stall on pendlay rows, and days Ill power through them like nothing.
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Do some core work
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AlabamaLove posted...

Do some core work

Any suggestions? I do weight crunches, RDLs, hanging leg raises, and planks at the end of my routIne.
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I dont even bother with it anymore. Rack Pulls, Squats, and Romanian Deadlifts on the other hand...
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Vermander posted...

Remember I am not just throwing weight up I dont think I can handle. If I handled 295 last time, why would I hurt myself with 315.

I think what bothers me is the inconsistency. Save for my bench I have basically dropped weight on every excercise in my routine to work on form, and its made me realize I am a lot weaker than I think.

Your form may just be bad.
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If youre able to clear weight from the floor then your quads are okay. The problem lies with your core and all of your posterior muscles. Training your form wont do any good if you still lack development of those muscles.
But, TBQH you really dont need to train on deadlifts regularly. Squats, RDL, rack pulls, heavy shrugs, forearm and grip work, etc. are what you need to focus on. Do deadlifts once or twice a month to practice it.
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Start doing those farmer's walks bro. You'll never be able to deadlift 315 until you're able to crush a basketball with your barehands.
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Also, it took me 3.5 years to hit 500 lbs. just to give you some perspective.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Start doing those farmer's walks bro. You'll never be able to deadlift 315 until you're able to crush a basketball with your barehands.

I do farmers walks twice a week. Currently use 85 lb dumbbells
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Yeah that's form
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@Pow_Pow_Punishment
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Have you tried a variant like sumo DLs yet? Depending on your body proportions you might be more suited to that vs. conventional
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Ummm try deadlifting more than once every other week.
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InYourWalls1 posted...

Have you tried a variant like sumo DLs yet? Depending on your body proportions you might be more suited to that vs. conventional

I have really long legs so I find the lift-off with my chest out very awkward. Especially when I throw my straps on for heavier sets.
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I tried deadlifting lower weight in a "pyramid rep" scheme and it destroyed my hams
All at 135
1, rest for a few seconds
2, rest
3, rest
all the way to 10 and then back down to 1

took about 10 minutes in all
felt like i was on death's door
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Trap bar?
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It's funny, I used to get hurt deadlifting when I had up to 3 years or so of lifting experience under my belt. Past that point I have never hurt myself deadlifting, about 11 years later. It can take some time to build posterior chain resilience. Now if my back rounds on a max effort attempt I feel safer than I did being green with "better" form.

If you're able to, I highly recommend buying a bunch of rubber patio paver tiles from Home Depot, deadlifting heavy off of those for high reps with the bar at about knee height, and gradually removing one per week until you come to the floor. That will build a strong body.
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