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Kelystic
07/11/18 11:56:49 PM
#51:


Milkman5 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Milkman5 posted...
Pick Lyn as your free hero

Everyone does


a new player might not realize why Lyn is so good at face value

how to beat the level 40 Robin?
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Milkman5
07/12/18 12:12:54 AM
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Kelystic posted...
how to beat the level 40 Robin?
@Milkman5


is it a story mode level?
Male Robin with the anti-colorless blue tome?

Your Minerva should be able to kill him.

What's your team?

Tiki, Marth, Lyn and Minerva?
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Frostshock
07/12/18 12:16:59 AM
#53:


Don't bother trying any of the 14 rotating GHB infernal maps yet, you'll need much more specialized teams than you have available and a lot of trial and error.
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pres_madagascar
07/12/18 12:17:13 AM
#54:


Milkman5 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Milkman5 posted...
Pick Lyn as your free hero

Everyone does


a new player might not realize why Lyn is so good at face value

No I mean it has a little blurb above her when you pick that says most people pick her so it's kind of implied she's best by the game itself lol. I still don't fully understand why she's so good but she is my highest damaging hero by far.
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Milkman5
07/12/18 12:31:59 AM
#55:


Oh, are you talking about the female Robin special map?
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Milkman5
07/12/18 12:34:45 AM
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Does your Olivia have dance?

I'll try to beat the map with just Lyn, Minerva, Olivia and some other unit you have
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Kelystic
07/12/18 12:52:14 AM
#57:


tankiest unit currently is lvl40 ike and it got one shotted by a random mage acconpanying robin
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Milkman5
07/12/18 1:05:38 AM
#58:


pres_madagascar posted...

No I mean it has a little blurb above her when you pick that says most people pick her so it's kind of implied she's best by the game itself lol. I still don't fully understand why she's so good but she is my highest damaging hero by far.


does it really say that? Do you have a screen cap anywhere? I got her when they first gave her for free and it didn't have a message
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Milkman5
07/12/18 1:06:27 AM
#59:


Kelystic posted...
tankiest unit currently is lvl40 ike and it got one shotted by a random mage acconpanying robin


I tried the map with some of the units you have and I don't think you'll be able to beat it atm. Wait for it to come back next week (these cycle every day iirc)
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Milkman5
07/12/18 1:07:23 AM
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That map is actually really hard. I don't think I can beat it with just units the game gives you
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Kelystic
07/12/18 1:07:46 AM
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i'll post my updated roster later. help me assemble a strong team.
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pres_madagascar
07/12/18 1:42:13 AM
#62:


Milkman5 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...

No I mean it has a little blurb above her when you pick that says most people pick her so it's kind of implied she's best by the game itself lol. I still don't fully understand why she's so good but she is my highest damaging hero by far.


does it really say that? Do you have a screen cap anywhere? I got her when they first gave her for free and it didn't have a message

It was like a text bubble above her head saying "most players choose this option". I already linked my account so I can't make a new one to see right now.
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Kineth
07/12/18 4:04:06 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
I still don't fully understand why she's so good but she is my highest damaging hero by far.


She's good because she has access to Cavalry buffs, has 3 movement and is ranged. If nothing else, she's a great unit to build a Rider/Horse Emblem team around.
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DoctorVader
07/12/18 4:26:05 AM
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I just decided to try this game again since launch with all the recent hype.

Are my pulls good? Should I go with the 5 stars as my first team? Haven't pulled the free summon for the 4 Heroes, so I have one remaining and I'm thinking Lyn because of everyone saying so.

Or should I reroll?
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marthsheretoo
07/12/18 4:36:47 AM
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You can reroll if you want. IMO, those are solid summons and should serve you well. I'd be happy with those if I was starting out.

But they aren't S+-tier monsters either.
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Kineth
07/12/18 5:55:05 AM
#66:


marthsheretoo posted...
You can reroll if you want. IMO, those are solid summons and should serve you well. I'd be happy with those if I was starting out.

But they aren't S+-tier monsters either.


This p much. Also, might want to let us know what their IVs are.

https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/fire-emblem-heroes-iv-calculator
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Milkman5
07/12/18 6:56:26 AM
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@DoctorVader
Your three 5 stars are pretty good.

Azura is a dancer and every single dancer/singer in the game is great. Plus she comes sapphire lance so she can take out some red units when she has too.

Sigurd is very durable and well rounded. Great attack, Great Defense, ok speed, low resistance, but his weapon is really good and offsets his low resistance.
Mages deal half damage to him on their first attack, meaning despite having low resistance, he can tank some magic units.

Linde is good, although Lyn is better than Linde and they serve similar roles.
Linde is great offensively for cavalry teams.
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Milkman5
07/12/18 6:59:32 AM
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Just for reference, the units I started with were absolute dogshit comparatively.

For maybe a month of two, the only 5 stars I had were Roy and Sheena and Roy was absolute garbage before he got his refine. Sheena was pretty horrible as well before inheritance/refines and even then.
(She's ok now on Armor Emblem teams)

Eventually I just used my feathers to build a team out of my 4 stars instead. I pulled a 4 star +Atk Effie and a 4 star +Atk Reinhardt near the beginning of the game. (they are both top tier units, especially at the time)
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Milkman5
07/12/18 7:14:56 AM
#69:


pres_madagascar posted...
I still don't fully understand why she's so good but she is my highest damaging hero by far.


Forgetting Brave Bow+ shenanigans for a second, her default kit is incredible.

Sacae's Blessing is exclusive to Brave Lyn and makes it so no Axe/Sword/Lance unit can counter-attack. Meaning she completely ignores all physical melee units with Distant Counter as an A skill or have Distance Counter in their weapon. Hector, Ike, Fjorm, Xander, Ryoma and so on... are popular characters who come with the ability without inheritance and everyone and their momma has Distant Counter in the Arena.

To understand why it is such a good skill, consider this.

This is the description for another B skill called Windsweep.

If unit initiates combat, unit cannot make a follow-up attack. If unit's Spd foe's Spd and foe uses sword, lance, axe, bow, or dagger, foe cannot counterattack.

Windsweep is almost identical to Sacae's blessing, except Sacae doesn't have a speed requirement and Sacae still allows Lyn to make a follow-up attack.

Her weapon Mulagir, is a prf weapon, has 14 Mt (tied with the highest of any bow), grants her an extra +3 Speed (which is great for Lyn), and ignores magic buffs (which isn't that important tbh because most are squishy anyway except for Dragons which hard-counter Lyn regardless)

Her A skill, Swift Sparrow 2 is also really good for Lyn. She greatly benefits from both speed and attack and she should only be used on offense. SS2 gives her +4 Atk and Spd when she attacks an enemy.

Then you have to take in consideration she is a ranged cavalry unit, meaning she can move 3 spaces, attack from 5 spaces away, and utilize the Hone Cavalry buff (which grants +6 atk and spd to a cavalry unit)

Hone Cavalry is very common skill and a neutral default kit Lyn will have 48 Spd and 57 Attack with buffs when she attacks the enemy, and can only be countered by other ranged units and dragons.

With all that hype shit out of the way, Reinhardt is still better imo...
But Lyn is basically like a colorless Reinhardt (almost. With Brave Bow+ she's more like him)
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Milkman5
07/12/18 7:18:22 AM
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The other three brave units are good units, but nothing special.
Brave Ike is really great as a fodder unit as Steady Breathy is one of the best A skills in the meta-game.

But new players shouldn't care about Steady breath Foddering. It's better to have the best units you can at the beginning and worry about sacking 5 star units later. When you get duplicates.
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Milkman5
07/12/18 7:26:28 AM
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Infantry Melee units in general are extremely underwhelming. Because they have bad range, worse buffs, and with Armors getting Armor March and Boots, Infantry are basically just Armors with low stats and no buffs. Not to mention Armors have access to godlike skills.

I personally have three Brave Ikes and one Brave Lucina and I never use them. Brave Lucina is especially disappointing.

Her prf weapon sucks. It's a support weapon. And her skills are atrocious. She only has ok Def, has bad Res. Good attack and speed, but she isn't fast enough to double sword units, which is the only time you will ever be using her. Is to fight sword units. Her applications are extremely limited.

Brave Ike can be a good lance baiter.

The fact that they didn't give Brave Ike built in Distant Counter when all his alts got it is a real shame...
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Kelystic
07/12/18 8:50:17 PM
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pres_madagascar
07/13/18 12:07:15 AM
#73:


Milkman5 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
I still don't fully understand why she's so good but she is my highest damaging hero by far.


Forgetting Brave Bow+ shenanigans for a second, her default kit is incredible.

Sacae's Blessing is exclusive to Brave Lyn and makes it so no Axe/Sword/Lance unit can counter-attack. Meaning she completely ignores all physical melee units with Distant Counter as an A skill or have Distance Counter in their weapon. Hector, Ike, Fjorm, Xander, Ryoma and so on... are popular characters who come with the ability without inheritance and everyone and their momma has Distant Counter in the Arena.

To understand why it is such a good skill, consider this.

This is the description for another B skill called Windsweep.

If unit initiates combat, unit cannot make a follow-up attack. If unit's Spd foe's Spd and foe uses sword, lance, axe, bow, or dagger, foe cannot counterattack.

Windsweep is almost identical to Sacae's blessing, except Sacae doesn't have a speed requirement and Sacae still allows Lyn to make a follow-up attack.

Her weapon Mulagir, is a prf weapon, has 14 Mt (tied with the highest of any bow), grants her an extra +3 Speed (which is great for Lyn), and ignores magic buffs (which isn't that important tbh because most are squishy anyway except for Dragons which hard-counter Lyn regardless)

Her A skill, Swift Sparrow 2 is also really good for Lyn. She greatly benefits from both speed and attack and she should only be used on offense. SS2 gives her +4 Atk and Spd when she attacks an enemy.

Then you have to take in consideration she is a ranged cavalry unit, meaning she can move 3 spaces, attack from 5 spaces away, and utilize the Hone Cavalry buff (which grants +6 atk and spd to a cavalry unit)

Hone Cavalry is very common skill and a neutral default kit Lyn will have 48 Spd and 57 Attack with buffs when she attacks the enemy, and can only be countered by other ranged units and dragons.

With all that hype shit out of the way, Reinhardt is still better imo...
But Lyn is basically like a colorless Reinhardt (almost. With Brave Bow+ she's more like him)

Once my reinhardt is 5 star instead of 4, I will wash the soil with the blood of my bikini clad enemies.
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DoctorVader
07/13/18 12:45:51 AM
#74:


Thanks for info @Milkman5, @Kineth and @marthsheretoo.

I played a little and they seem like pretty good units. I ran out of stamina, but the game definitely seems very smooth. I'm gonna check the IVs when I get a chance later.

I'm also gonna use another phone to reroll and if it is good, I'll go with that or stick with this.

So my question right now was, what are these "monster" units I should be looking out for?

Sorry for the slight highjack TC.
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marthsheretoo
07/13/18 12:53:04 AM
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Check the ingame calendar. See the "heroes with fighter skills" banner that's coming? 2 of those heroes are total powerhouses.

Reinhardt is great for clearing content and can be pulled as a 3-4 star unit so is easy to find. Doesn't score high in arena but don't worry bout that yet.

Legendary Hector is great but you can't pull him right now.

Myrrh, Ayra, and Zelgius are all great too, but rare because no banner.

Good long term project is to promote Nowis to 5* and merge them to +10. With refined lightning breath she eats enemies and shits victories especially with steady breath.

This is all for way later but it doesn't hurt to start now.
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marthsheretoo
07/13/18 1:01:26 AM
#76:


Oh and Summer Tiki, a limited time summon for this month, is super strong (though you need to give her distant counter to bring her to her full potential, which is not a common skill)

This tier list is pretty good, actually.
https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/inheritance-tier-list
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Milkman5
07/15/18 1:20:54 AM
#77:


I was warned. Ill give suggestions on team building in a bit
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Kelystic
07/15/18 1:26:00 AM
#78:


also can u explain how merge works and how the stats carry over
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Kelystic
07/15/18 1:26:14 AM
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also i got beach takumi
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Kineth
07/15/18 3:57:07 AM
#80:


Kelystic posted...
also can u explain how merge works and how the stats carry over


I'll try and compress this. When you merge a unit with the same star rating, the unit gets an additional 2 points in stats and +1 to their level (aka lvl 40 +1, not lvl 41). At 10 merges, a unit will have +4 to all of their stats (+2 * 10 = 20). It starts out by adding a point to your two highest stats, when the unit was level 1, the next merge will add a point to your next 2 highest stats and so forth.

As an fyi, if you promote a unit, all the merges they had will disappear. As another note, if you merge a unit with merges to another unit of the same star rating, the merges will carry over.

Hope that explained enough.
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Milkman5
07/15/18 8:17:45 AM
#81:


You merged your Oscars >_>
Oscar has lancebreaker 3 at 4 star

Merging trashes on unit, and if they are the same rarity, raises the the stat cap for two stats by 1. It cycles by highest stat so every merge will add different stats. You can do this ten times for a maximum of +4 in all stats.

Basically never, ever do this. Unless the character is either absolute garbage or if both units are 5 stars.
Merges don't carry over to 5 star, or the next star level, so if you plan to ever promote them, you are basically throwing away the character for almost nothing.

And if you are merging 5 stars, make sure the unit with the good IVs, aka the good stats, is NOT the one being deleted.

For example, you have a +Atk Reinhardt at 4 star if I remember correctly. Eventually, you might have him at 5 star and another 5 star reinhardt. You should make sure to merge the other Reinhardt INTO the +Atk one.

My recommendation is just to never ever merge until you are experienced with the game
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Milkman5
07/15/18 8:18:44 AM
#82:


Also there's a Tempest Trial going on atm and it has a bunch of seals and a free 5 star as a reward.

Make you sure you play through that game mode and earn all the seal/character rewards.

Masked Marth is good and can only be obtained this way.
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Kelystic
07/15/18 1:15:31 PM
#83:


Finally got Summer Camilla (+speed -hp).

Summer Takumi is (+attack -res)
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Milkman5
07/15/18 2:04:01 PM
#84:


Wow.
Those are amazing IVs. Maybe perfect.

You basically already have a great flier team in Tiki, Camilla and Takumi. Now you just need to build them and learn how to play them.

Camilla comes with Hone fliers even.
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LordFarquad1312
07/15/18 2:06:07 PM
#85:


Kineth posted...
As another note, if you merge a unit with merges to another unit of the same star rating, the merges will carry over.

Hold on here. If I merge a +4 unit into a base unit, that base unit becomes +5?
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Milkman5
07/15/18 2:09:57 PM
#86:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Kineth posted...
As another note, if you merge a unit with merges to another unit of the same star rating, the merges will carry over.

Hold on here. If I merge a +4 unit into a base unit, that base unit becomes +5?


Yes, so you dont need to worry about having good IVs before merging. You can get a better one later and merge into it
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Milkman5
07/15/18 3:32:39 PM
#87:


As soon as possible, promote your 4 star Reinhardt to 5 star (20,000 feathers)
[whichever Reinhardt is plus Atk. I'm pretty sure your 4 star was if I remember correctly]

Promote your three star Gunter to four star. (3,000 feathers)
Have Lyn Inherit from Gunter Hone Cavalry.

You have quite a few mobility fodder units. Selena, Barst and Stahl. At some point you'll want to have your Flying units inherit Selena and Barst's reposition, but maybe wait a bit to see which ones you like the most since you have limited fodder.

Have Olivia inherit Wings of Mercy 3 from Cain

If you have a Wings of Mercy 3 Olivia, it will make your team considerably more effective.

If you ran a 4 star Olivia, and your Summer Takumi, Camilla and Tiki, you would be able to beat the Tempest Trials on Lunatic easily.
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Milkman5
07/15/18 3:36:50 PM
#88:


In my mind you have these workable teams.

Takumi, Tiki, Camilla, Olivia (probably your best team)

Reinhardt, Lyn, Tiki/Ike, Olivia (second best)

Takumi, Tiki, Camilla, Minerva (flying team, for beating quests)

You might be able to build an ok Calavry team for quests.
Seth might be usable at 4 star. He has high Def and the ruby sword so he can counter axe users.

idk, you have some great fodder, but I'm not sure it's worth using on units you may never use when you pull something better, but... Laslow has Axebreaker 3 and that would work well on him
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Kelystic
07/15/18 7:33:16 PM
#89:


I'll work on those. Thanks.

Grinding the trials now.
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Kelystic
07/17/18 3:13:47 AM
#90:


Anything OP from the current Focus: New Power banner?
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Milkman5
07/17/18 3:28:57 AM
#91:


Kelystic posted...
Anything OP from the current Focus: New Power banner?


No. Use your free pull on a blue orb.

Nephenee is great, otherwise the banner is not worth pulling on
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Kelystic
07/17/18 3:32:54 AM
#92:


Milkman5 posted...
Kelystic posted...
Anything OP from the current Focus: New Power banner?


No. Use your free pull on a blue orb.

Nephenee is great, otherwise the banner is not worth pulling on


i got 4 star tsubaki
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Milkman5
07/17/18 3:33:49 AM
#93:


Kelystic posted...

i got 4 star tsubaki

Well, that's Quick Riposte 2 fodder at least
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Kineth
07/17/18 4:23:17 AM
#94:


Kelystic posted...
Anything OP from the current Focus: New Power banner?


Nephenee is p good. Also, if nothing else, she's Wrath fodder. Katarina is Swift Sparrow and Rauorowl fodder too.

Titania's refine is sorta garbage so unless you're lacking in green cavalry, I wouldn't really worry about her.
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