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DeadSite
07/02/18 1:17:10 AM
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Best hero
Best villain
Best gameplay
Best story
Best supporting cast

Quite easily the best Final Fantasy game ever
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Bad_Mojo
07/02/18 1:19:02 AM
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This is the third FFT topic this week. People know it's the best, they just can't admit it
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Kisai
07/02/18 1:20:43 AM
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I'll admit FFT is awesome, but FFVII's right over there.
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Tyranthraxus
07/02/18 1:22:04 AM
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DeadSite posted...
Best gameplay

The gameplay is fucking garbage.

But yeah to all the others.
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MwarriorHiei
07/02/18 1:22:18 AM
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how can fft have the best story if i dont even remember what happens
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Touch
07/02/18 1:22:27 AM
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Kisai posted...
I'll admit FFT is awesome, but FFVII's right over there.

Lol @ overhyped ff7
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 1:22:31 AM
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FFT > FFVII
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pauIie
07/02/18 1:32:39 AM
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Lathissamus
07/02/18 1:33:42 AM
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FFT is great but it had a plethora of issues.

Also, FF9 exists so...
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Blue_Inigo
07/02/18 1:36:29 AM
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If FF4 isnt your favorite, dont even talk to me
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squarion
07/02/18 1:38:37 AM
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FF9
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Kisai
07/02/18 1:44:11 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
FFT is great but it had a plethora of issues.

Also, FF9 exists so...

squarion posted...
FF9

FFIX is like two sides to a coin. There's a wonderful, beautiful side of a casual playthrough, enjoying the story. And then there's the dark, horrible, terrible side of trying to 100% the game.
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Tyranthraxus
07/02/18 1:45:29 AM
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Kisai posted...
Lathissamus posted...
FFT is great but it had a plethora of issues.

Also, FF9 exists so...

squarion posted...
FF9

FFIX is like two sides to a coin. There's a wonderful, beautiful side of a casual playthrough, enjoying the story. And then there's the dark, horrible, terrible side of trying to 100% the game.

The only thing that sucks is Excalibur 2 because you have to basically skip everything and can't actually enjoy the game.
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southcoast09
07/02/18 1:45:36 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
If FF4 isnt your favorite, dont even talk to me

Easily the most overrated in the series
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Kisai
07/02/18 1:47:08 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Kisai posted...
Lathissamus posted...
FFT is great but it had a plethora of issues.

Also, FF9 exists so...

squarion posted...
FF9

FFIX is like two sides to a coin. There's a wonderful, beautiful side of a casual playthrough, enjoying the story. And then there's the dark, horrible, terrible side of trying to 100% the game.

The only thing that sucks is Excalibur 2 because you have to basically skip everything and can't actually enjoy the game.

Yeah, like I said, on one side you have a casual playthrough enjoying the story, but on the other hand, there's Exclalibur II, and if you don't want to miss other missable items, events, mini-games, etc. it becomes a fucking nightmare to even think about.
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Panthera
07/02/18 1:56:04 AM
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FFT is awesome, I'm kind of torn between it and XII for my favourite in the series. Both are among my favourite games.
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Bad_Mojo
07/02/18 1:59:19 AM
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Panthera posted...
FFT is awesome, I'm kind of torn between it and XII for my favourite in the series. Both are among my favourite games.


And both are in same world...

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OmegaShinkai
07/02/18 2:01:23 AM
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southcoast09 posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
If FF4 isnt your favorite, dont even talk to me

Easily the most overrated in the series

No, that would be the game that got a sequel movie, a prequel OVA, two prequel games, a sequel game to the movie, and has a remake split up into multiple games.
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Shotgunnova
07/02/18 2:03:25 AM
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Howl
07/02/18 2:04:31 AM
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Kisai posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Kisai posted...
Lathissamus posted...
FFT is great but it had a plethora of issues.

Also, FF9 exists so...

squarion posted...
FF9

FFIX is like two sides to a coin. There's a wonderful, beautiful side of a casual playthrough, enjoying the story. And then there's the dark, horrible, terrible side of trying to 100% the game.

The only thing that sucks is Excalibur 2 because you have to basically skip everything and can't actually enjoy the game.

Yeah, like I said, on one side you have a casual playthrough enjoying the story, but on the other hand, there's Exclalibur II, and if you don't want to miss other missable items, events, mini-games, etc. it becomes a fucking nightmare to even think about.


I'm pretty sure that game is legitimately impossible to 100% without using save state manipulation of some sort tbh.
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Kisai
07/02/18 2:07:21 AM
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Howl posted...
Kisai posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Kisai posted...
Lathissamus posted...
FFT is great but it had a plethora of issues.

Also, FF9 exists so...

squarion posted...
FF9

FFIX is like two sides to a coin. There's a wonderful, beautiful side of a casual playthrough, enjoying the story. And then there's the dark, horrible, terrible side of trying to 100% the game.

The only thing that sucks is Excalibur 2 because you have to basically skip everything and can't actually enjoy the game.

Yeah, like I said, on one side you have a casual playthrough enjoying the story, but on the other hand, there's Exclalibur II, and if you don't want to miss other missable items, events, mini-games, etc. it becomes a fucking nightmare to even think about.


I'm pretty sure that game is legitimately impossible to 100% without using save state manipulation of some sort tbh.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps/197338-final-fantasy-ix/faqs/41181
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Howl
07/02/18 2:13:47 AM
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Kisai posted...
Howl posted...
Kisai posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Kisai posted...
Lathissamus posted...
FFT is great but it had a plethora of issues.

Also, FF9 exists so...

squarion posted...
FF9

FFIX is like two sides to a coin. There's a wonderful, beautiful side of a casual playthrough, enjoying the story. And then there's the dark, horrible, terrible side of trying to 100% the game.

The only thing that sucks is Excalibur 2 because you have to basically skip everything and can't actually enjoy the game.

Yeah, like I said, on one side you have a casual playthrough enjoying the story, but on the other hand, there's Exclalibur II, and if you don't want to miss other missable items, events, mini-games, etc. it becomes a fucking nightmare to even think about.


I'm pretty sure that game is legitimately impossible to 100% without using save state manipulation of some sort tbh.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps/197338-final-fantasy-ix/faqs/41181


That guide explicitly states that it's not a 100% guide, it's a guide to get all non-arbitrary amounts of items while still getting Excalibur 2.
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QueenCarly
07/02/18 2:16:47 AM
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Its great, but

its not as good as 6
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Lathissamus
07/02/18 2:25:48 AM
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Shotgunnova posted...
Gafgarion 4 Lyfe

how dare you
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gunplagirl
07/02/18 2:32:19 AM
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It isn't even the best ps1 ff game

It isn't even necessarily the best tactics game
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BlameAnesthesia
07/02/18 2:36:00 AM
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DeadSite posted...
Best supporting cast


9 begs to differ. Every supporting character exhibited some major virtue that, taken too far, was maladaptive. And their journey was discovering this and rising above it. Rarely are so many of the characters so richly fleshed out.
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Kineth
07/02/18 2:40:37 AM
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Kisai posted...
I'll admit FFT is awesome, but FFVII's right over there.


You had so many options and you went with the nostalgia wet dream.
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Touch
07/02/18 8:01:44 AM
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Delita did nothing wrong
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SavenForever
07/02/18 8:07:00 AM
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I liked it, but the literal best FF came out right before it.

DeadSite posted...
Best hero - Ramza was cool. He's up there as one of my favorite antagonists for sure.
Best villain Vormav? LOL no, he was the worst villain in the game itself. The story took a nosedive when he and the church became the main focus
Best gameplay Very fun battle system for sure.
Best story Fantastic story until the church becomes the main focus. I didn't care as much about that compared to the political stuff
Best supporting cast Yeah.....going to have to disagree there. I really didn't like how they became generic NPCs once their role in the story was done.

Quite easily the best Final Fantasy game ever

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DeadSite
07/02/18 8:39:47 AM
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SavenForever posted...
I liked it, but the literal best FF came out right before it.

DeadSite posted...
Best hero - Ramza was cool. He's up there as one of my favorite antagonists for sure.
Best villain Vormav? LOL no, he was the worst villain in the game itself. The story took a nosedive when he and the church became the main focus
Best gameplay Very fun battle system for sure.
Best story Fantastic story until the church becomes the main focus. I didn't care as much about that compared to the political stuff
Best supporting cast Yeah.....going to have to disagree there. I really didn't like how they became generic NPCs once their role in the story was done.

Quite easily the best Final Fantasy game ever

Wat
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SavenForever
07/02/18 9:01:16 AM
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DeadSite posted...
SavenForever posted...
I liked it, but the literal best FF came out right before it.

DeadSite posted...
Best hero - Ramza was cool. He's up there as one of my favorite antagonists for sure.
Best villain Vormav? LOL no, he was the worst villain in the game itself. The story took a nosedive when he and the church became the main focus
Best gameplay Very fun battle system for sure.
Best story Fantastic story until the church becomes the main focus. I didn't care as much about that compared to the political stuff
Best supporting cast Yeah.....going to have to disagree there. I really didn't like how they became generic NPCs once their role in the story was done.

Quite easily the best Final Fantasy game ever

Wat


I said everything I needed to say in that post above.
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DeadSite
07/02/18 10:05:50 AM
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SavenForever posted...
DeadSite posted...
SavenForever posted...
I liked it, but the literal best FF came out right before it.

DeadSite posted...
Best hero - Ramza was cool. He's up there as one of my favorite antagonists for sure.
Best villain Vormav? LOL no, he was the worst villain in the game itself. The story took a nosedive when he and the church became the main focus
Best gameplay Very fun battle system for sure.
Best story Fantastic story until the church becomes the main focus. I didn't care as much about that compared to the political stuff
Best supporting cast Yeah.....going to have to disagree there. I really didn't like how they became generic NPCs once their role in the story was done.

Quite easily the best Final Fantasy game ever

Wat


I said everything I needed to say in that post above.

Delita is the villain fam
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frozenshock
07/02/18 10:07:46 AM
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The thing with FFT is... the game itself appears much longer than it is because the battles are long. But the story itself is actually quite short.

I just wish we had a longer version of it. Go more in depth into Glabados and everything.
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Tyranthraxus
07/02/18 10:14:25 AM
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DeadSite posted...
Delita is the villain fam

Delita is the antagonist, not the villain.
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DoomSwell
07/02/18 10:20:03 AM
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You're not wrong but... I don't like to count spinoffs as the best in a series.

As far as numbers go, its gotta be 9, nothing substantially flawed like the rest.
Though 10 is fine in that regard too but... less lovable.
I have a soft spot for Three (not 6) as well, its more likable than 5 but it still has jobs.

Tyranthraxus posted...
DeadSite posted...
Delita is the villain fam

Delita is the antagonist, not the villain.

WOKE AF, for anyone who ever wondered the difference.
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DeadSite
07/02/18 10:27:56 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
DeadSite posted...
Delita is the villain fam

Delita is the antagonist, not the villain.

He is both.
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Zodd3224
07/02/18 10:32:36 AM
#37:


DeadSite posted...
Best hero
Best villain
Best gameplay
Best story
Best supporting cast

Quite easily the best Final Fantasy game ever


It is overall the best FF, I agree. However:

- Zidane is the best hero.
- Sephiroth is the best villain.
- FF5 is probably tied in terms of gameplay.
- FF7 story is close, but Tactics is better.
- FF9, FF4, FF6 have the best casts.
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SavenForever
07/02/18 11:47:10 AM
#38:


Tyranthraxus posted...
DeadSite posted...
Delita is the villain fam

Delita is the antagonist, not the villain.


Yeah. You could also make the argument that he a protagonist too, but went about it like an anti-hero.
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QueenCarly
07/02/18 11:50:24 AM
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Zodd3224 posted...
- Sephiroth is the best villain.


Sephiroth is an awful villain.
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DeadSite
07/02/18 11:55:09 AM
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Zodd3224 posted...
- Sephiroth is the best villain.

Fucking lmao

SavenForever posted...
Yeah. You could also make the argument that he a protagonist too, but went about it like an anti-hero

You could, but his means are still malice and spiteful, and thus evil.

I do agree it's difficult to argue he is necessarily evil but his means ultimately make him irredeemable, which is the point of the ending
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Zodd3224
07/02/18 12:05:02 PM
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QueenCarly posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
- Sephiroth is the best villain.


Sephiroth is an awful villain.


Easily the best in the series. Name me a better one.
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DeadSite
07/02/18 12:06:18 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
QueenCarly posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
- Sephiroth is the best villain.


Sephiroth is an awful villain.


Easily the best in the series. Name me a better one.

Delita
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Zodd3224
07/02/18 12:07:48 PM
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DeadSite posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
QueenCarly posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
- Sephiroth is the best villain.


Sephiroth is an awful villain.


Easily the best in the series. Name me a better one.

Delita


He is a better character for sure.

But he isnt the villain in FFT.
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DeadSite
07/02/18 12:10:05 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
DeadSite posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
QueenCarly posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
- Sephiroth is the best villain.


Sephiroth is an awful villain.


Easily the best in the series. Name me a better one.

Delita


He is a better character for sure.

But he isnt the villain in FFT.

Copout. He's clearly the one orchestrating everything
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Touch
07/02/18 12:11:31 PM
#45:


The main villain is pretty much St. Ajora. It's just that he's hidden behind the story and all his Zodiac Braves are doing his work while he just kinda pops up in the end.
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Zodd3224
07/02/18 12:12:41 PM
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DeadSite posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
DeadSite posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
QueenCarly posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
- Sephiroth is the best villain.


Sephiroth is an awful villain.


Easily the best in the series. Name me a better one.

Delita


He is a better character for sure.

But he isnt the villain in FFT.

Copout. He's clearly the one orchestrating everything


He is The People's Champ.

And okay, if you want to say Delita is best villain. If Sephiroth is awful, what does that make the other FF villains?
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frozenshock
07/02/18 12:13:28 PM
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DeadSite posted...
Copout. He's clearly the one orchestrating everything


Really? I always saw Delita as being kind of like Seifer in FF8

Just a cretin who thought he was smarter and more powerful than he actually was
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QueenCarly
07/02/18 12:14:06 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
QueenCarly posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
- Sephiroth is the best villain.


Sephiroth is an awful villain.


Easily the best in the series. Name me a better one.


Kuja is significantly better. Kefka is better. If you're going to talk about FF7 then Jenova is better than Sephiroth anyways.

Sephiroth was nothing more than a tool of Jenova.
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Zeeak4444
07/02/18 12:15:02 PM
#49:


Zodd3224 posted...
QueenCarly posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
- Sephiroth is the best villain.


Sephiroth is an awful villain.


Easily the best in the series. Name me a better one.


Kafka and Genesis.

FFT is my favorite though and I agree with you he's not the villain by any stretch of the imagination.

Edit: Kuja/Garland too.
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Tyranthraxus
07/02/18 12:16:08 PM
#50:


DeadSite posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
DeadSite posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
QueenCarly posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
- Sephiroth is the best villain.


Sephiroth is an awful villain.


Easily the best in the series. Name me a better one.

Delita


He is a better character for sure.

But he isnt the villain in FFT.

Copout. He's clearly the one orchestrating everything

No he isn't. He orchestrated some political shit but the church and Altima are the real villains and he wasn't in control of them at all.
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