Current Events > How come in Marvel, people who want unequal rights/mutant registry are bad guys?

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I get that it is a paper thin allegory for racial or sexual discrimination. But that doesn't fly when you think about it. Black people can't melt you with their mind, Lesbians don't control the weather.

I was watching one of the movies the other day, don't ask me which one because they are all the same but Picard was drugged into being like 4 seconds away from literally murdering every single human on Earth

Open question: If Lesbians could and once were 4 seconds away from murdering all 7 billion non lesbian people on Earth, would you still consider people who were deeply concerned about that "Bad Guys"? For wanting like a registry or safeguards put in place?

They really don't seem that unreasonable because literal supernatural powers exist.

Imagine if Islamic Extremeists could control the minds of all world leaders? Or if the KKK could literally manipulate the weather? Or if Dawkins could manipulate metal with his mind?

The world would be fucked.

If Hamas just mind-controlled every world leader, made them make Palestine it's own nation and then commit suicide along with the entire UN and Will Smith, would you really be outraged by someone going "Erm... Maybe we should do something about people who can literally control people's minds? Like a registry or lock them up or something?"

The Allegory only works if Superpowers don't exist and then it;s a story about superpowers I dont get it.
Senator Kelly did nothing wrong.
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Black people can melt you with their mind

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On_The_Edge posted...

Black people can melt you with their mind

I don't get why the general public seems to have more of a problem with mutants than non-mutants superheroes like Spiderman and Captain America

don't they exist in the same world?
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Trayvon posted...

I don't get why the general public seems to have more of a problem with mutants than non-mutants superheroes like Spiderman and Captain America

don't they exist in the same world?

Capn' I get because he's a WW2 vet and American hero.

Spiderman yeah tho.
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Trayvon posted...

I don't get why the general public seems to have more of a problem with mutants than non-mutants superheroes like Spiderman and Captain America

don't they exist in the same world?

I don't think it's about the powers exactly. I think it's about the fear of being erased and replaced by homo-superior.

When we look at Cap, we see a hero we created with super science. He is a human creation.

When we look at mutants, we see the future of humanity. And it doesn't look like us anymore
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The same reason Skylar was the bad guy vs the guy making meth

They'll ruin the fun if they have their way
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*calls for greater gun control*
*says your neighbor shouldn't have to let the government know he has nuclear laser vision*

The vast majority of mutant abilities aren't dangerous and mutant abilities don't manifest until puberty. So the only way a registry would work would be by the government demanding people to self-identify upon their abilities manifesting. That or they go around and start invading people's lives to find out if they are mutants. People who for the most part are no more dangerous than you or me. It's a pretty terrible violation of our rights.

Factor in that this the same government who thought a reasonable mutant control system was 20 foot tall giant robots and it's not hard to see why them having a list isn't ideal.

And while mutant terrorists like Magneto and Mystique are bad. Assigning their actions to all mutants is just straight racist.
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Factor in that this the same government who thought a reasonable mutant control system was 20 foot tall giant robots and it's not hard to see why them having a list isn't ideal.

Yeah that's dumb

Gheb posted...

The vast majority of mutant abilities aren't dangerous and mutant abilities don't manifest until puberty. So the only way a registry would work would be by the government demanding people to self-identify upon their abilities manifesting. That or they go around and start invading people's lives to find out if they are mutants. People who for the most part are no more dangerous than you or me. It's a pretty terrible violation of our rights.

But it's not being a "Bad Guy" to take those lengths when the danger is so significant.

Again going back to Hamas, if you found out tomorrow that the leaders of Hamas could control minds or control the weather, would you be opposed to government intervention into relevant people's lives to contain that situation?

And even if you were, would you say people who weren't are "Bad Guys"?

What if your daughter or sister was mind controlled into being a sex slave for some creepy guy who can control minds? And then he made her commit suicide when he got bored with her?

nd while mutant terrorists like Magneto and Mystique are bad. Assigning their actions to all mutants is just straight racist.

But it's so not.

"Black people shouldn't use the front of the bus because they are inferior" is racist.

"Hey the guys who could potentially literally kill all humans on Earth should probably have a registry..." is reasonable.

IT's not comparable because the reason for the action is not driven by hatred or bias. It's driven by rational fear. Black people and Lesbians are not comparable to people who can control minds and control the weather.

Yeah it sucks for Little Billy who can make cars explode with his mind that despite not doing anything he is getting tarnished by the same brush as Big Susie who just murdered the entire population of Thailand but it's reasonable that he is.

It's not the same as Little Billy getting tarnished because he is black and Big Susie is also black and she murdered a guy. Because being black is not a superpower. People are not endangered because a guy is black.

I'm sorry but all humans on Earth being 4 seconds from being wiped out in the biggest possible genocide in history trumps any counter-argument
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It's more because they are not only jealous, afraid of being slowly replaced my mutants and/or don't agree with the line evolution, but because like 90% of mutations aren't anything dangerous, and the very small few that are, aren't always evil all the time.

What about the guy who can fly as his power? Why should he not have the same rights along with other non destructive or lesser mutant powers? What about those who do have potentially dangerous powers but haven't even done anything wrong yet, or ever will? Why not just treat everyone as an equal, while creating a back up plan to use against those specific ones who do abuse powers that they may have in the future?
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Mutants can't really do those things. Those are just your mutantophobic lies, you filthy conservative.
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itachi15243 posted...

It's more because they are not only jealous, afraid of being slowly replaced my mutants and/or don't agree with the line evolution, but because like 90% of mutations aren't anything dangerous, and the very small few that are, aren't always evil all the time.

And that sucks for those dudes who have to be checked out but they still gotta be checked out.

What about the guy who can fly as his power? Why should he not have the same rights along with other non destructive or lesser mutant powers?

Arguably not.

He definately should not be allowed to play football or basketball for example.

But more to the point, yeah. He's gotta be registered for his or her own good as much as non mutants

What about those who do have potentially dangerous powers but haven't even done anything wrong yet, or ever will? Why not just treat everyone as an equal,

Because that led us to being T Minus 4 seconds away from the genocide of the entire human race.

while creating a back up plan to use against those specific ones who do abuse powers that they may have in the future?

What "back up plan" can you have for what "Specific ones" you don't even know about
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Going back to your Magneto example. He was a well-known mutant terrorists with well-documented powers. He still got very close to killing all humans anyway. The government was still useless.

And is there any reason to believe that if the government had a list of people and their powers, they wouldn't abuse it?

Oh and let's say as part of the registration process they run into someone like Franklin Richards or Jean Grey. Someone with some serious power. What is the government going to do about it?
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Gheb posted...

Going back to your Magneto example. He was a well-known mutant terrorists with well-documented powers. He still got very close to killing all humans anyway. The government was still useless.

Because no safeguards or registration was in place

That's the entire point.

I'm sure Neto has like 8 different origin stories but in the movies the Nazi's recruited him as a child to be a weapon. That was literally their plan. And you're saying that's cool?

And is there any reason to believe that if the government had a list of people and their powers, they wouldn't abuse it?

Well considering this government made giant pink 30 foot robots they almost certainly would but that doesn't make the people calling for it bad people.

Oh and let's say as part of the registration process they run into someone like Franklin Richards or Jean Grey. Someone with some serious power. What is the government going to do about it?

Probably kill, lock up or labotomize them.

But someone like Jean Grey should be intelligent enough to comprehend "Hey you literally have the power to kill everyone so you can't be walking the streets.

I mean I comprehend that and I never was mentored by Picard.

Ever played Harvester? The cult classic comedy/horror live action PC Adventure Game from the 90s?

There's a character in that game who is a crazy war veteran with no legs who hates communists and thinks everyone is one. His job is that he guards the nuclear missile silos and keeps an open big red button on his belt which drags across the ground that if pressed launches nuclear missiles that will kill everyone.

Would you be cool with that guy walking....well crawling the streets? Because that's pretty much what Jean Gray, Prof X, Magneto, Storm and the other 70+ X Men Rogues Gallery characters of equal power are.

Sure it's not "Fair" but neither is being born allergic to your own skin. In a universe where super powers exist, it's a reasonable option
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The Nazi didn't turn Magneto into a weapon. That's not my point though. Even when the government had full knowledge of Magneto and what he could do (they had a specially made cell for him) they couldn't stop him. So what good is the government having this info?

And you are essentially advocating that the government abduct/lobotomize/kill mutants who have never committed a crime and that those same mutants should just be okay with it. Well shit, if they weren't a terrorist before you have certainly given them some motivation to become one.
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1. Registry's not doing anything but labeling the weaker ones who now can't escape from discrimination.

2. "Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither" or w/e. AKA it's taking away people's rights/freedoms.

3. This leads down the slippery slope of superpowered registries.

4. The gov't is not the greater good. Them with control of all mutant powers is 10000000x worse than individual people having them.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

But it's not being a "Bad Guy" to take those lengths when the danger is so significant.

Again going back to Hamas, if you found out tomorrow that the leaders of Hamas could control minds or control the weather, would you be opposed to government intervention into relevant people's lives to contain that situation?

And even if you were, would you say people who weren't are "Bad Guys"?

What if your daughter or sister was mind controlled into being a sex slave for some creepy guy who can control minds? And then he made her commit suicide when he got bored with her?

Mutants didn't randomly appear everywhere with insane powers in X men.

The first known mutant was apocalypse 5 thousand of years ago, although, there was the occasional mutant a few times throughout history up to 17,000 years ago, 12,000 years before apocalypse. Originally he just gray with blue lips with the ability to come back from death/regeneration or something like that. After that he gained most of power through alien tech and a special virus iirc.

Mutants weren't really common, not many being born until the 20th century due to environment and pollution causing a rise until the few notable ones in 1920. Mutants were used and made into weapons in WWII. The birth of mutants sped up noticably after the atomic bombs. Around the beginning of the 21st century racism and etc began to spread with a notable amount of mutants possessing noticable power being born. Such mutants ended up bargaining for and getting their own nation by around 2010, and grew into tens of millions with humans being fearful of mutants becoming the dominant species

That's basically it before weird plot Events made mutants the majority on Earth, then set them back to around two hundred so I'm ignoring that one.

Anyways, assuming things went normal in our life with less or no racism, we'd have a few to a dozen million mutants spread out amongst us all. We'd know mind control can be blocked by now using electromagnets, and most likely have a mutant special forces unit by now given the US military might. we'd probably have a system in place to block mind control in all politicians in place along with a way to report and deal with cases where there's a fear of mind control along with readily available options to help and prevent it in civilians with consumer ready products.

Back to the mutant special forces/government, I think you can imagine how things would go if other countries knew the consequences of attacking (they wouldn't) and if they did they would be dealt with.
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Trayvon posted...

I don't get why the general public seems to have more of a problem with mutants than non-mutants superheroes like Spiderman and Captain America

don't they exist in the same world?

Bigotry is like that in the real world too. People draw fairly arbitrary lines on who they hate and don't. Look at Rwanda. I bet most people outside of Africa couldn't tell you who was a Tutsi and who was a Hutu, yet that led to a genocide

UnfairRepresent posted...

Black people can melt you with their mind

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Knowledge_King posted...

1. Registry's not doing anything but labeling the weaker ones who now can't escape from discrimination.

And that sucks but it's nesssicary and they are going to suffer discrimination regardless.

I don't think Lesbians should ever be outed against their will but that's because we live in a reality where lesbians dont control the weather.

If they did, then yes they should be outed before one gets into an argument and sets a Hurricane on San Francisco

2. "Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither" or w/e. AKA it's taking away people's rights/freedoms.

Because you butchered the quote.


Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

Stopping the genocide of the human race isn't "A little temporary safety" is absolute.

3. This leads down the slippery slope of superpowered registries.

Slipperly slope falacy

4. The gov't is not the greater good. Them with control of all mutant powers is 10000000x worse than individual people having them.

I'm not sure I agree.

Again I got repeat, Picard nearly killed everyone. Neato nearly killed Nixon.

And if we count Logan as canon (which I hope we don't because it was a meh movie) in response to the Mutants being dangerous as "individuals" they poisoned the high-fructose corn syrup foods of the entire world to cull all mutants.

And in comics Old Man Logan was even worse.

A far worse fate than government oversight.

On top of that, I don't see why "Well the government might be corrupt!" makes people who want to stop the potential mutant armageddon the bad guys.

How would you feel if your son could potentially kill 7 billion people and nearly did?
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You still think the government abducting or killing American citizens who have committed no crimes is an appropriate solution to the mutant problem.
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KarmaMuffin posted...

Trayvon posted...

I don't get why the general public seems to have more of a problem with mutants than non-mutants superheroes like Spiderman and Captain America

don't they exist in the same world?

Bigotry is like that in the real world too. People draw fairly arbitrary lines on who they hate and don't. Look at Rwanda. I bet most people outside of Africa couldn't tell you who was a Tutsi and who was a Hutu, yet that led to a genocide

There's a cool scene in the underrated movie Hotel Rwanda where 2 girls are sitting next to each other at a bar, one is Tutsi and one is Hutu and the journalist just goes "They could be sisters!"

The entire notion of "We have to check your ID To see if we have to brutally murder you for being one of them or letting you g for being one of us because otherwise we can't tell." would be hilarious in a dark comedy way if it wasn't so horrific.

Reminds me of that story of Christopher Hitchens in Ireland where he stopped at a Red Traffic light and a masked man with a gun pulled him out of the car, put the gun to his head and said "ARe you Protestant or Catholic!?"

And he went "I'm an atheist!"

And the gunman went "...... er....Well are you a Catholic atheist or a Protestant atheist!?"

Also kinda funny because he was a Jewish Atheist.
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Gheb posted...

You still think the government abducting or killing American citizens who have committed no crimes is an appropriate solution to the mutant problem.

If said mutants are capable of wiping out all life on Earth in a matter of seconds and can be influenced via drugs.

Yes, I don't think that's unreasonable.

Sure capping them in the head is fucked up but Christ we've done worse things than that to people just because they were fucking up countries, let alone the entire human race.

Going "Hey wanna come to this secure facility because you are a walking comet?" is not unreasonable and an adult should understand that.

I would if I was a walking comet.
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GOOMFalse posted...

The same reason Skylar was the bad guy vs the guy making meth

They'll ruin the fun if they have their way

Lol well put
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Yeah, I'm not so nice. If I had omega or alpha level mutant abilities and the government asked me to go to a mutant detention center despite me never having broken the law. I'd tell them to piss off and I'd be entirely in my right to do so. If they want to push the issue they better be ready for me to defend myself from a tyrannical government action. I'll do what I can to not seriously hurt any of them though.

That would be my adult response. If they came at me while I was an emotional, hormonal teenager (which is more likely given that's when powers manifest) then we are probably looking at very messy scenario.
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same concept as people who are experts of karate or judo or any similar physical art in which the hands or feet are used as deadly weapons being required to register with the department of revenue and taxation

Gheb posted...

Yeah, I'm not so nice. If I had omega or alpha level mutant abilities and the government asked me to go to a mutant detention center despite me never having broken the law. I'd tell them to piss off

Ok so now we have you, someone who is capable of wiping out the planet saying fuck you to the government.

And you're not concerned about that?

And you're a liberal.

Imagine a radical Muslim with the same power.

Imagine someone mentally ill with the same power.

See those Youtube videos of guys kicking people's cars? Imagine if one of them could suddenly make it rain shards of glass across the entire nation?
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I will never be on board with locking up people who have committed no crime just because they could be a danger based on circumstances beyond their control. It's a gross violation of civil and human rights and cannot be justified in mind.
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Gheb posted...

I will never be on board with locking up people who have committed no crime just because they could be a danger based on circumstances beyond their control.

Then you're incredibly naive.

Hell your argument says we should ban quarantine.
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You do realize that quarantine rules are pretty strictly defined specifically to prevent civil rights abuses, right?

They are also done during active danger. That's not what you are proposing. You are calling for the neutralization of a group of people who could be a danger but have yet to do so. You can't even call it thought crime because the victims don't even need to have had dangerous thoughts to be neutralized.

Also when does someone hit neutralization threshold. Obviously you consider omega level powers to be above it, but what about someone like Shadowcat. She couldn't harm many people, but the nature of her power makes her a huge intelligence risk to the government. Should she be neutralized? I just want to know when your human rights stop mattering.
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Gheb posted...

You do realize that quarantine rules are pretty strictly defined specifically to prevent civil rights abuses, right?

They are also done during active danger. That's not what you are proposing. You are calling for the neutralization of a group of people who could be a danger but have yet to do so. You can't even call it thought crime because the victims don't even need to have had dangerous thoughts to be neutralized.

Also when does someone hit neutralization threshold. Obviously you consider omega level powers to be above it, but what about someone like Shadowcat. She couldn't harm many people, but the nature of her power makes her a huge intelligence risk to the government. Should she be neutralized? I just want to know when your human rights stop mattering.

Then what about people like Jean Grey when she goes all "Dark Phoenix" on you!!
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The problem is that the vast majority of mutants are non-violent and even cooperative, until society shuns, ridicules and even actively tries to kill them, pushing them over the edge.
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You know what would be a good way to ensure she does? Trying to abduct her as an innocent teenager.

All we would be doing is giving mutants reasons to fear and attack people. If doing nothing wrong is still cause for being detained, why would any mutant ever want to work with people?
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smoliske posted...

same concept as people who are experts of karate or judo or any similar physical art in which the hands or feet are used as deadly weapons being required to register with the department of revenue and taxation

and he was never seen again

Also, keep in mind that there ARE a lot of stereotypes about black people and other races that lead people to come to the conclusion that they are more "dangerous". And people, for years, thought "gayness" was a disease that you could catch from other people and hurt the human population.
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Gheb posted...

You do realize that quarantine rules are pretty strictly defined specifically to prevent civil rights abuses, right?

They are also done during active danger,

In the world of the X-men everyone is constantly in active danger. Due to the super-powered mutants.

Sure Toad is no threat but any of the dudes who can control minds or minerals or weather or whatever the fuck Pheonix can do...

You are calling for the neutralization of a group of people who could be a danger but have yet to do so. You can't even call it thought crime because the victims don't even need to have had dangerous thoughts to be neutralized.

Being able to kill people with your thoughts brings a whole new meaning to "thought crime" so I hope you appreciate that irony.

Also when does someone hit neutralization threshold. Obviously you consider omega level powers to be above it, but what about someone like Shadowcat. She couldn't harm many people, but the nature of her power makes her a huge intelligence risk to the government. Should she be neutralized? I just want to know when your human rights stop mattering.

Guess it depends on the canon and the power. But something along the lines of registration, monastery life, power inhibitting drugs, lobotomization

If you have the option to remove powers they are removed, if not then you get taken to a facility. If you refuse then you are neutralized.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The problem is that the vast majority of mutants are non-violent and even cooperative, until society shuns, ridicules and even actively tries to kill them, pushing them over the edge.

Even more reason to respond to the threat.

Picard was the most cooperative and friendly mutant of them all (arguably) and he was drugged into nearly killing everyone.

And what would happen if Hamas had a leader who could do the same thing?

If you want to go "They are mature and non violent and want to co-operate" then they would understand why safeguards are needed and support them.

Or at least not feel that people who do are "evil"

Again you're comparing Storm to a Lesbian in terms of discrimination and then ignoring that Lesbians can't control the weather.

Gheb posted...

You know what would be a good way to ensure she does? Trying to abduct her as an innocent teenager.

All we would be doing is giving mutants reasons to fear and attack people. If doing nothing wrong is still cause for being detained, why would any mutant ever want to work with people?

Mutants are always going to have a reason to fear and attack people.

Neto was a free man and he tried to murder Nixon.
Picard was a free man and he was seconds away from commiting genocide against the entire human race. Then later he accidentially killed all his friends including a bunch of kids.
Jean Gray is mentally ill and would have killed everyone sooner or later.
Unchecked Mutants being free leads to the poisoning of Mutants that wipes them out.

How did you feel when your girlfriend dumped you? Or if you can't relate to that, how did you feel when you were driving to work and someone stole your parking space?

Or some ass steals your wallet and runs off.

Now what do you think will happen if you had the power to summon volcanoes?

What's Susie going to do when Derrick breaks up with her and then later she sees Derrick making out with Heather in the park?

Suddenly his dick is being attacked by swarms of wasps.

People are always going to get emotional or angry in life. The point is the literal superpowers
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Also, keep in mind that there ARE a lot of stereotypes about black people and other races that lead people to come to the conclusion that they are more "dangerous". And people, for years, thought "gayness" was a disease that you could catch from other people and hurt the human population.

But gays and black people and gay black people can't make a tornado appear in your underpants.

Why aren't you following that? Super powers don't exist.

LeBron James isn't good at Basketball because he has mutant flight skills due to being black
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A gun can kill hundreds of people and yet people are adamantly against a gun registry

smoliske posted...

smoliske posted...

same concept as people who are experts of karate or judo or any similar physical art in which the hands or feet are used as deadly weapons being required to register with the department of revenue and taxation

and he was never seen again

You know that the "martial artists must register as deadly weapons" thing is a myth and in no way factual, right?
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Gheb posted...

smoliske posted...

smoliske posted...

same concept as people who are experts of karate or judo or any similar physical art in which the hands or feet are used as deadly weapons being required to register with the department of revenue and taxation

and he was never seen again

You know that the "martial artists must register as deadly weapons" thing is a myth and in no way factual, right?

I literally quoted a law

UnfairRepresent posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Also, keep in mind that there ARE a lot of stereotypes about black people and other races that lead people to come to the conclusion that they are more "dangerous". And people, for years, thought "gayness" was a disease that you could catch from other people and hurt the human population.

But gays and black people and gay black people can't make a tornado appear in your underpants.

Why aren't you following that? Super powers don't exist.

LeBron James isn't good at Basketball because he has mutant flight skills due to being black

It doesn't matter. The analogy still fits.

People legitimately thought black people are naturally physically stronger and more athletic and specifically kept them down out of fear of losing any potential uprising.

Also keep in mind that there's maybe 6 or 7 mutants that actually have power on the scale you're talking about. Not every mutant is an Omega-level mutant capable of farting and destroying half the world's population.
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smoliske posted...

Gheb posted...

smoliske posted...

smoliske posted...

same concept as people who are experts of karate or judo or any similar physical art in which the hands or feet are used as deadly weapons being required to register with the department of revenue and taxation

and he was never seen again

You know that the "martial artists must register as deadly weapons" thing is a myth and in no way factual, right?

I literally quoted a law

Which law. Is it federal or state (if so, which state?)
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Also keep in mind that there's maybe 6 or 7 mutants that actually have power on the scale you're talking about. Not every mutant is an Omega-level mutant capable of farting and destroying half the world's population.

https://www.cbr.com/omega-mutants-powerful-thanos/
Only 15 or so according to this article.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

That's a lot of words to say "I support the detention, forced neural surgery, or murder of innocent people based on their genetic make-up."
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Gheb posted...

smoliske posted...

Gheb posted...

smoliske posted...

smoliske posted...

same concept as people who are experts of karate or judo or any similar physical art in which the hands or feet are used as deadly weapons being required to register with the department of revenue and taxation

and he was never seen again

You know that the "martial artists must register as deadly weapons" thing is a myth and in no way factual, right?

I literally quoted a law

Which law. Is it federal or state (if so, which state?)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/03/31/these-hands-and-feet-are-registered-as-deadly-weapons-in-guam/

Darklit_Minuet posted...

A gun can kill hundreds of people and yet people are adamantly against a gun registry

If someone had a gun that they couldn't remove from their body that can kill 7 billion people at once then I wouldnt call someone concerned about them an evil person.

No such gun exists.

Ever played Dragon Age? You should it's a good game.

But in that universe Mages have a serious issue which is that they are constantly at risk of being possessed by demons and going on kill crazy rampages.

AS a result there is a lot of discrimination and different nations handle it in different ways. In one nation the Mages rule everything and are pure evil, in another they are enslaved and have their tongues cut out, in another they are placed in towers and raised strictly until they show intelligence and prove they can master themselves, then are let back out into soceity.

And there is a line of dialogue in one of the games between a mage and someone who is a dick to mages and it goes something like

"You know all mages are dangerous right? How can you want them all free?
"Well you're dangerous, you have a sword, you're not killing everyone. Should we lock you up too!?"
"I can put my sword down."

Really butchering the quote but it's along those lines. Seems relevant there
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First of all not everyone that's a mutant knows they are mutants. Abilities can be situational and people can believe they are some of kind of superhuman.

Secondly people discover their abilities at different points in time, so if someone claims they just discovered their abilities it's going to be hard to prove otherwise.

Thirdly pretty much all mutant registries, have ridiculous restrictions in place on the mutants being registered. From they have to be enlisted to they need 24h supervision.

Fourthly there's actually real world (well fictional real world) data that all the registries are just planned steps to wiping out mutants.

Fifthly why limit it only to mutants and not all superhumans if you are worried about the dangers?

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

It doesn't matter. The analogy still fit

It doesn't tho.

Said it in my opening line:
I get that it is a paper thin allegory for racial or sexual discrimination. But that doesn't fly when you think about it. Black people can't melt you with their mind, Lesbians don't control the weather.

I was watching one of the movies the other day, don't ask me which one because they are all the same but Picard was drugged into being like 4 seconds away from literally murdering every single human on Earth

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Also keep in mind that there's maybe 6 or 7 mutants that actually have power on the scale you're talking about. Not every mutant is an Omega-level mutant capable of farting and destroying half the world's population.

I don't see how that's relevant, especially considering it's established that more mutants are coming every year and a lot of the have the same powers.

You only have to commit genocide on 7 billion people once.

Gheb posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

That's a lot of words to say "I support the detention, forced neural surgery, or murder of innocent people based on their genetic make-up."

Well for starters I didnt say I supported it, I said that those who do aren't evil.

And most importantly In a world where super-powers exist that threaten the planet itself and all human life.

America lost its mind after 9/11 and yet you're downplaying the close to instant genocide of 7 billion...

It takes less time for Picard in a bad mood to wipe out the whole race than it takes you to make a cup of coffee and a sandwich. Yes he needs safeguards in place to prevent that.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

It takes less time for Picard in a bad mood to wipe out the whole race than it takes you to make a cup of coffee and a sandwich. Yes he needs safeguards in place to prevent that.

Yet, they manage not to commit genocide every time he travels to new planets & civilizations.
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