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Dark Souls 2 is better than Dark Souls 1

Playing the remaster makes me realize this

i liked it, bosses are a lil easy. other than that i had a good time with it.
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I like Dark Souls 2, but I don't like how when you hit a boss, they don't recoil.

...or maybe I'm wrong, I haven't played the game since it first came out.
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Because it has a ton of weapons
a ton of build variety
3 fully fleshed out DLC
ability to respec as many times as you have items for in a single NG cycle
NG+ actually changes things in an interesting way
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SSJKirby posted...

NG+ actually changes things in an interesting way

I burned too many aesthetics in Majula and now my basement is full of spooky skeletons that murder me
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Shitty animations
Horrid textures
Idiotic bonfire placement
Hideous character models
Cartoony combat
Daggers can stagger heavy armored builds because reasons on their first hit.
Floaty movement
Uninspired backgrounds
Lazy, half-assed 'lore'
The barely fun stuff gets patched to shit. RIP binospeed, golfswings knockouts, etc.
Ridiculous outfits. Furry legs and a butterfly set. Top Lolz
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DrizztLink posted...

SSJKirby posted...

NG+ actually changes things in an interesting way

I burned too many aesthetics in Majula and now my basement is full of spooky skeletons that murder me

lol
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DrizztLink posted...

SSJKirby posted...

NG+ actually changes things in an interesting way

I burned too many aesthetics in Majula and now my basement is full of spooky skeletons that murder me

just think of all the effigy's you can farm now
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Vicious_Dios posted...

Shitty animations
Horrid textures
Idiotic bonfire placement
Hideous character models
Cartoony combat
Daggers can stagger heavy armored build because reasons first hit.
Floaty movement
Uninspired backgrounds
Lazy, half-assed 'lore'
The barely fun stuff gets patched to shit. RIP, binospeed, golfswings knockouts, etc.
Ridiculous outfits. Furry legs and a butterfly set. Top Lolz

This.
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brought more to the Souls series than DS3 ever did

DS3 was a "Best of" that played it too safe and amounted to nothing
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Too many samey bosses. Sometimes they'd mix it up by having you fight multiple at once which is not something the battle system is well designed for. When it's one on one circle strafe to victory is a tactic that works on most of them.

Weird flow of levels. If you feel the need, look up the map that shows how the levels are more randomly strung together instead of trying to create a believable flow and appearing connected into a cohesive world.
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It was made by their B-team
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Vicious_Dios posted...

Shitty animations
Horrid textures
Idiotic bonfire placement
Hideous character models
Cartoony combat
Daggers can stagger heavy armored builds because reasons on their first hit.
Floaty movement
Uninspired backgrounds
Lazy, half-assed 'lore'
The barely fun stuff gets patched to shit. RIP binospeed, golfswings knockouts, etc.
Ridiculous outfits. Furry legs and a butterfly set. Top Lolz

CasualGuy posted...

It was made by their B-team

These, also adaptability (and by extension, AGI) was fucking stupid

Its the best Dark Souls game.
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Because you're not using a lightning mace.
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boxington posted...

I like Dark Souls 2, but I don't like how when you hit a boss, they don't recoil.

...or maybe I'm wrong, I haven't played the game since it first came out.

I got into the series through DS2 so that must be why when my attacks stagger bosses it messes with my rhythm >_<. I started on Demon Souls and then tried Dark Souls but nothing clicked until 2.
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@Schwarz posted...

Because you're not using a lightning mace.

Is that recommended?

I'm using the Heide Spear with lightning enchant as my main.

I have Craftsman's Hammer as my second, best blunt I've found.

Should I make it zappy as well, or a different enchant?

I'm a Dex/str/int/faith focus at the moment, since I'm getting a feel for what I like.
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Mainly shitty enemy placement
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I started to like it one I went for my second playthrough with SotFS.

It's certainly different, and for the better in some ways.

Definitely has the most content of any game in the series.

The only place it objectively lacks is in the visual presentation. The downgrade hit it hard. It should have just launched as an 8th gen title.

It was basically developed by the idiot team. Fucking awful game.
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DrizztLink posted...

Is that recommended?

I don't know, I'm not a good player. I just always end up falling back on maces cuz they just wreck everything. Really, any kind of crush/blunt/strike whatever it's called is probably fine. I like zappy cuz I always go faith build so I can hide around corners and heal myself while I cry.
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Schwarz posted...

DrizztLink posted...

Is that recommended?

I just always end up falling back on maces cuz they just wreck everything. Really, any kind of crush/blunt/strike whatever it's called is probably fine.

This but just powerstance 2 regular maces, super op

powerstance 2 caesti.

superfast L1s and they do strike damage.
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TerrifyingRei posted...

powerstance 2 caesti.

superfast L1s and they do strike damage.

I got invaded by a shirtless guy with two caesti.

He came into my world doing fucking kung fu and whooped my ass.

it was made by the B Team. the A Team after finishing Dark Souls moved on to start work on Bloodborne. But the company also wanted to push out a sequel to Dark Souls. So they got a side team of people to make Dark Souls 2. the guy who invented Demon's Souls and Dark Souls was too busy to help and that's why it was subpar. That is why Dark Souls 2 has a different feel to it than the entire rest of the franchise

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

TerrifyingRei posted...

powerstance 2 caesti.

superfast L1s and they do strike damage.

I got invaded by a shirtless guy with two caesti.

He came into my world doing fucking kung fu and whooped my ass.

that might have been me. I do that a lot actually.
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TheMarthKoopa posted...

Dark Souls 2 is better than Dark Souls 1

Playing the remaster makes me realize this

Though DS1 has a much better story.

TerrifyingRei posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

TerrifyingRei posted...

powerstance 2 caesti.

superfast L1s and they do strike damage.

I got invaded by a shirtless guy with two caesti.

He came into my world doing fucking kung fu and whooped my ass.

that might have been me. I do that a lot actually.

You ever fight a sorcerer in black robes on the bridge to the Iron Keep about 3 years ago?

I used a lot of corroding mist and soul great sword

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

TerrifyingRei posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

TerrifyingRei posted...

powerstance 2 caesti.

superfast L1s and they do strike damage.

I got invaded by a shirtless guy with two caesti.

He came into my world doing fucking kung fu and whooped my ass.

that might have been me. I do that a lot actually.

You ever fight a sorcerer in black robes on the bridge to the Iron Keep about 3 years ago?

nah, i don't remember many of my invasions.

I remember I invaded a dude who was running the same build as me once. We ended up pretty well matched, so I just left out of respect for him.
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TerrifyingRei posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

TerrifyingRei posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

TerrifyingRei posted...

powerstance 2 caesti.

superfast L1s and they do strike damage.

I got invaded by a shirtless guy with two caesti.

He came into my world doing fucking kung fu and whooped my ass.

that might have been me. I do that a lot actually.

You ever fight a sorcerer in black robes on the bridge to the Iron Keep about 3 years ago?

nah, i don't remember many of my invasions.

I remember I invaded a dude who was running the same build as me once. We ended up pretty well matched, so I just left out of respect for him.

Actually you just said L1 and I'm on Xbox

i play on PC with a 360 controller.

I just use L/R1/2/3 terms from playing Bloodborne.
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TerrifyingRei posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

TerrifyingRei posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

TerrifyingRei posted...

powerstance 2 caesti.

superfast L1s and they do strike damage.

I got invaded by a shirtless guy with two caesti.

He came into my world doing fucking kung fu and whooped my ass.

that might have been me. I do that a lot actually.

You ever fight a sorcerer in black robes on the bridge to the Iron Keep about 3 years ago?

nah, i don't remember many of my invasions.

I remember I invaded a dude who was running the same build as me once. We ended up pretty well matched, so I just left out of respect for him.

Did you bow?

You better have bowed.
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I always bow. I even leave Human Effigies if i leave before killing.
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TerrifyingRei posted...

I always bow. I even leave Human Effigies if i leave before killing.

In 3 I squat and leave a Dung Pie

Because the Souls series as a whole is overrated garbage.
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Ridiculously bad hit detection.



Super weak boss design. Literally all just big knights

Their idea of difficulty ramp is just throw more enemies at you than you can realistically deal with.

The world design is atrocious. No two areas feed well into one another. Who the fuck designed Iron keep/earthen peek connecting should never work in the industry again.

"Go search the lands and vanquish many formidable opponents. Collect all Souls of the Lords. Only then can you traverse to your destiny and open the door that blocks your way...you could hop over that log over there, but what's the fun in that?"

Its gets a nod for the variety of fashion souls it gives players but God is it so shitty in so many ways.
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IMO it was the worst of the bunch, but it was still pretty damn good.

Most of the complaints i heard about it were mitigated in some way within the game, and it felt like it added more to the Souls games than any of the others barring Demon's.
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Fighting a lot of the enemies like the turtle knights are just slogs

Unless you do some serious minmaxing there's just a ton of enemies at the beginning of the game that will crush you, not because you don't know how to beat them, but because they take so little damage and takes so long to beat them that you'll inevitably make 2-3 mistakes and they'll wipe you out with pre-animated grab/thrust attacks

Doesn't help that your hitbox quadruples in size for these attacks. It's like the developers knew that Dark Souls was supposed to be hard, but they didn't know the difference between "hard" and "cheap"
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Rikiaz posted...

Its the best Dark Souls game.

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SwayM posted...

Ridiculously bad hit detection.

I've played Dark Souls 2 a fair amount but never finished it... but Jesus Christ, that's awful. Think I would just shut the game off.
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Ruddager posted...

Vicious_Dios posted...

Shitty animations
Horrid textures
Idiotic bonfire placement
Hideous character models
Cartoony combat
Daggers can stagger heavy armored builds because reasons on their first hit.
Floaty movement
Uninspired backgrounds
Lazy, half-assed 'lore'
The barely fun stuff gets patched to shit. RIP binospeed, golfswings knockouts, etc.
Ridiculous outfits. Furry legs and a butterfly set. Top Lolz

CasualGuy posted...

It was made by their B-team

These, also adaptability (and by extension, AGI) was fucking stupid

Pass this down. Pass ALL of this down.
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The large majority of complaints about DS2 are problems in other/every Souls game but people focus only on DS2 because hating DS2 is a meme.

Life gems? Demon's Souls grass.

Not fully interconnected world? Only DS1 truly did that.

Janky PvP? Have you tried PvPing in DS1? More than half the tech revolves around jank and glitches.

Wonky hitboxes? https://imgur.com/NCwmyZx and https://imgur.com/uGtnhtc would like to have a word.

Rehashed/reskinned bosses? DS1 is as bad.
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Dark Souls 2 is the better game if you're actually a true gamer
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Tmk posted...

The large majority of complaints about DS2 are problems in other/every Souls game but people focus only on DS2 because hating DS2 is a meme.

Life gems? Demon's Souls grass.

Not fully interconnected world? Only DS1 truly did that.

Janky PvP? Have you tried PvPing in DS1? More than half the tech revolves around jank and glitches.

Wonky hitboxes? https://imgur.com/NCwmyZx and https://imgur.com/uGtnhtc would like to have a word.

Rehashed/reskinned bosses? DS1 is as bad.

I played it and finished all the DLC, but I don't think I could ever go back to it again. There's something about the level designs that bothered me.
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I'm biased in that DS2 is my favorite. I admit that it's mostly because it's my first Souls game.
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because

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UScsme8didI" data-time="&start=7
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Sage JJ posted...

Tmk posted...

The large majority of complaints about DS2 are problems in other/every Souls game but people focus only on DS2 because hating DS2 is a meme.

Life gems? Demon's Souls grass.

Not fully interconnected world? Only DS1 truly did that.

Janky PvP? Have you tried PvPing in DS1? More than half the tech revolves around jank and glitches.

Wonky hitboxes? https://imgur.com/NCwmyZx and https://imgur.com/uGtnhtc would like to have a word.

Rehashed/reskinned bosses? DS1 is as bad.

Grass was so stupid that they were very vocal about their decision to turn it into Estus in DS1. Bringing it back was incredibly stupid.

People don't hate DS2's world because it isn't interconnected, they hate it because it makes absolutely no logical sense to the point where people have to create excuses and fan theories to make up for it.

Janky PVP are in every souls game, this is true.

The rehashed bosses in DS2 wouldn't be bad if there was more than one or two decent boss fights weighted against them in comparison, but tragically every boss is insanely easy except for Ancient Dragon, which is more like an unfinished joke fight.

You also forgot level design as a whole, which is childishly simplistic compared to every other entry in the game. Most areas are just giant funnels you stumble through outside of the DLC and a tiny amount of exceptions in the main game. Black Gulch and Aldia's Keep are incredible jokes stand stand out in particular.

You also forgot the enemy placement, which is so insanely hodgepodge and ridiculous that they changed it up in Scholar. Not to anything that much better mind you, but they realized "Oh, maybe we shouldnt have let our intern copy paste 30 dudes into every narrow space"
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The world design in DkS1 is better, but pretty much everything else DkS2 does better.

Tons of (viable) weapons, a lot of different and varied builds, NG+ is more meaningful, 3 amazing DLCs, intrduction of players being able to be summoned by a boss (Mirrorknight was fucking amazing) and lots of other small things.
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