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Funbazooka
06/27/18 3:22:36 PM
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/poll-59-fear-violence-from-trump-haters-31-predict-civil-war

The division in the United States that has escalated into the organized harassment of presidential aides has six in 10 worried about the violence from anti-Trump advocates and nearly a third fearing it will end in civil war.

The latest survey from Rasmussen Reports found that 59 percent of all voters are concerned that those opposed to President Trumps policies will resort to violence.

And, added Rasmussen, 31 percent believe its likely that the United States will experience a second civil war sometime in the next five years.

The new polling evidence of fear in the country over political division follows the harassment of three top Trump aides, including spokeswoman Sarah Sanders, ordered out of a southern Virginia restaurant, and senior adviser Stephen Miller whose condo drew protests from liberals.

It also follows a call by liberal California Rep. Maxine Waters to bring pressure to Trump officials when in public and urgings from legal experts for Trump aides to apply for concealed carry permits and buy guns.

In its analysis of the new survey, Rasmussen highlighted who is most concerned about violence:

Most voters across the partisan spectrum are concerned about political violence from those opposed to Trumps policies, although Republicans are the most likely to be Very Concerned. The level of concern is about the same among Republicans, Democrats and unaffiliated voters when it comes to the threat of violence from those critical of the medias coverage of Trump.

Women and those under 40 are more worried about a possible civil war than men and older voters are.

Forty-four percent (44%) of blacks think a second civil war is likely in the next five years, a view shared by 28% of whites and 36% of other minority voters. Whites are also less concerned about political violence than the others are.
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cerealbox760
06/27/18 7:06:42 PM
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1. There is not enough young people to fight a civil war. Heres a good post on how important that is:
http://qr.ae/TUpZWA

2.Democrats vs Republicans is not synonymous with Pro-Trump vs Anti-Trump. Plenty of conservatives have a distaste for trump. The only thing uniting conservatives are sjws. Forget policy. sjws are temporary.

3.Where would a civil war be fought? Each state would have its own civil war. It would be impossible to draw the lines and organize people.

4. Forget guns. Guerrilla chemical warfare is more likely.

5. A civil war would involve many countries like china and mexico because the economic incentives are great.
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LightningAce11
06/27/18 7:07:49 PM
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If Trump had never run, the country wouldn't be as divided as it is now.
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DarkTransient
06/27/18 7:08:20 PM
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Small-scale politically-inspired violence is very realistic and already happening in many cases (and while the anti-Trump brigade may be responsible for more of it, you're downright ignorant if you believe they're the only ones guilty of it), but an outright civil war? I'll believe that when I see it.
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voldothegr8
06/27/18 7:08:26 PM
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Fear mongering fake news
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BWLurker2
06/27/18 7:08:51 PM
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Rasmussen. Those numbers should be taken with a LARGE grain of salt
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hockeybub89
06/27/18 7:08:55 PM
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Nazi rallies killing people = good people on both sides. Liberals aren't innocent!

Restaurant refusing to serve Press Secretary = end of world

Also, wtf we believe polls again
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spudger
06/27/18 7:11:22 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
And, added Rasmussen, 31 percent believe its likely that the United States will experience a second civil war sometime in the next five years.

trumps america
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VectorChaos
06/27/18 7:12:39 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
If Trump had never run, the country wouldn't be as divided as it is now.

Our political status quo has literally been sustained by manufactured division.

If we weren't so divided it wouldn't be good for politicians on either side.
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Phantom_Nook
06/27/18 7:14:10 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Nazi rallies killing people = good people on both sides. Liberals aren't innocent!

Restaurant refusing to serve Press Secretary = end of world

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HylianFox
06/27/18 7:14:53 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Nazi rallies killing people = good people on both sides. Liberals aren't innocent!

Restaurant refusing to serve Press Secretary = end of world

lol
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spudger
06/27/18 7:18:59 PM
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HylianFox posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Nazi rallies killing people = good people on both sides. Liberals aren't innocent!

Restaurant refusing to serve Press Secretary = end of world

lol

he's not wrong
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Fuparulez
06/27/18 7:21:47 PM
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When Democrat party leaders are openly calling for violence, it's kind of easy to understand why.
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KILBOTz
06/27/18 7:22:59 PM
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Most likely case for a civil war I see is the democrats going full socialist and the republicans rebelling. I could see radical leftists rioting in large numbers in some areas resulting in like the national guard being brought in and deaths. but I don't think the left wing side would be able to effectively organize to have a civil war.
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HylianFox
06/27/18 7:23:48 PM
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KILBOTz posted...
Most likely case for a civil war I see is the democrats going full socialist and the republicans going full fascist.

fix'd
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DarkTransient
06/27/18 7:24:51 PM
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HylianFox posted...
KILBOTz posted...
Most likely case for a civil war I see is the democrats going full socialist and the republicans going full fascist.

fix'd


So, in other words, both going full fascist?
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tennisdude818
06/27/18 7:26:24 PM
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Leftists, ready to support stronger states rights? It's looking like the Supreme Court will be out of your camp for a while now.

Compromise: Massively dial back Federal Programs, but you get to push through as much Bernie Sanders free shit economics as you want at the state level.
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Nomadic View
06/27/18 7:26:45 PM
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One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.
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DarkTransient
06/27/18 7:28:01 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Leftists, ready to support stronger states rights? It's looking like the Supreme Court will be out of your camp for a while now.

Compromise: Massively dial back Federal Programs, but you get to push through as much Bernie Sanders free shit economics as you want at the state level.


That can work. Let the few states that actually want that crap have it, while the remainder of the US can continue to function as a normal society.

Of course, the question is, given that the states aren't allowed to prevent people leaving to another state... how exactly is socialism at a state level going to be enforced?
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BWLurker2
06/27/18 7:28:02 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.

This is such a stupid narrative that only conservatives are weapon owners. I know plenty of liberals who support gun rights.
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John_Galt
06/27/18 7:28:02 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.

10/10 post
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Abyssea
06/27/18 7:28:11 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.


well, what color dildos do you guys use?
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Coffeebeanz
06/27/18 7:28:50 PM
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All because Trump has the same immigration policies of 1990s Bill Clinton.
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KILBOTz
06/27/18 7:29:12 PM
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Abyssea posted...
Nomadic View posted...
One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.


well, what color dildos do you guys use?


Not black.
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davyheinz
06/27/18 7:31:02 PM
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Ive beaten every conservative in my family at a fist fight and won every family shooting competition. My dildo color is green.
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tennisdude818
06/27/18 7:39:20 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Leftists, ready to support stronger states rights? It's looking like the Supreme Court will be out of your camp for a while now.

Compromise: Massively dial back Federal Programs, but you get to push through as much Bernie Sanders free shit economics as you want at the state level.


That can work. Let the few states that actually want that crap have it, while the remainder of the US can continue to function as a normal society.

Of course, the question is, given that the states aren't allowed to prevent people leaving to another state... how exactly is socialism at a state level going to be enforced?


It can't stop productive people from voting with their feet. So the standard socialist collapse would happen earlier than usual. Some people can only learn the hard way.

Edit: Unfortunately my compromise misses the fact that Dems want open borders. Border security is one of the few things the Federal Government is actually supposed to handle, and it's the one thing that Dems don't want it handling.
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Zikten
06/27/18 7:42:43 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
If Trump had never run, the country wouldn't be as divided as it is now.

and if Obama had never made fun of Trump at a dinner, Trump never would have run. Trump was a super villain created by Obama
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uwnim
06/27/18 7:45:07 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
DarkTransient posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Leftists, ready to support stronger states rights? It's looking like the Supreme Court will be out of your camp for a while now.

Compromise: Massively dial back Federal Programs, but you get to push through as much Bernie Sanders free shit economics as you want at the state level.


That can work. Let the few states that actually want that crap have it, while the remainder of the US can continue to function as a normal society.

Of course, the question is, given that the states aren't allowed to prevent people leaving to another state... how exactly is socialism at a state level going to be enforced?


It can't stop productive people from voting with their feet. So the standard socialist collapse would happen earlier than usual. Some people can only learn the hard way.

Do it right and they wont leave. Of course that wont happen because the political system pretty much ensures that things go badly.
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cerealbox760
06/27/18 7:45:24 PM
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Zikten posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
If Trump had never run, the country wouldn't be as divided as it is now.

and if Obama had never made fun of Trump at a dinner, Trump never would have run. Trump was a super villain created by Obama

And if Trump wasn't a birth denier Obama would've never made fun of Trump. America wasn't ready for a black president.
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TomNook20
06/27/18 7:49:05 PM
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darkjedilink
06/27/18 8:02:00 PM
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BWLurker2 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.

This is such a stupid narrative that only conservatives are weapon owners. I know plenty of liberals who support gun rights.

But we gotta get rid of those AR-15's, right?
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BWLurker2
06/27/18 8:05:58 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.

This is such a stupid narrative that only conservatives are weapon owners. I know plenty of liberals who support gun rights.

But we gotta get rid of those AR-15's, right?

No. They don't feel that way at all.
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darkjedilink
06/27/18 8:14:31 PM
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BWLurker2 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.

This is such a stupid narrative that only conservatives are weapon owners. I know plenty of liberals who support gun rights.

But we gotta get rid of those AR-15's, right?

No. They don't feel that way at all.

If they're real, they're probably Libertarians.
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Sephiroth1288
06/27/18 8:15:52 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
If Trump had never run, the country wouldn't be as divided as it is now.

Uh bullshit, all this started with Obama
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Tmaster148
06/27/18 8:17:03 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
If Trump had never run, the country wouldn't be as divided as it is now.

Uh bullshit, all this started with Obama


Trump was a leading person on the whole Obama isn't an American citizen. Trump started before Obama was even president.
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VTBM
06/27/18 8:17:15 PM
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BWLurker2
06/27/18 8:17:23 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
If Trump had never run, the country wouldn't be as divided as it is now.

Uh bullshit, all this started with Obama

Obama put a wedge in the country, but Trump is smashing it with a sledgehammer
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Abyssea
06/27/18 8:17:34 PM
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Just wanted to signal boost this:

http://www.gayswithguns.net/
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/27/18 8:21:05 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
If Trump had never run, the country wouldn't be as divided as it is now.


This. Trump is to blame for all of this, and the sooner his supporters realize this, the sooner America will be made great again for real.
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hockeybub89
06/27/18 8:23:10 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
If Trump had never run, the country wouldn't be as divided as it is now.

Uh bullshit, all this started with Obama

Obama was talking shit about POWs, random people on Twitter, the families of dead soldiers, Democrats, Republicans that don't fall in line, small businesses, talk show hosts, Western allies, the media, etc every day on Twitter? He was calling the media lugenpresse while praising the media that supports him, completely ignoring the white nationalist or conspiracy theorist nonsense pushed by those outlets?

Trump is an entirely unprecedented experience, basically anywhere ever. This is where you name a bunch of shit not unique to Obama and pretend you have a point.
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spudger
06/27/18 8:28:30 PM
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KILBOTz posted...
Abyssea posted...
Nomadic View posted...
One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.


well, what color dildos do you guys use?


Not black.

thats why they own huge guns
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EternalDivide
06/27/18 8:30:24 PM
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KILBOTz posted...
Most likely case for a civil war I see is the democrats going full socialist and the republicans rebelling. I could see radical leftists rioting in large numbers in some areas resulting in like the national guard being brought in and deaths. but I don't think the left wing side would be able to effectively organize to have a civil war.

This. Exactly this.
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creativerealms
06/27/18 8:32:39 PM
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Talk about delusional. Trump haters are mostly wusses. Those anarchist who are causing violence are just using the anti Trump message as an excuse.
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creativerealms
06/27/18 8:35:40 PM
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Fuparulez posted...
When Democrat party leaders are openly calling for violence, it's kind of easy to understand why.

Only they are not. They are openly calling for people to speak up against them, to basically do the same thing the republicans do. That people twist their words (Which I disagree with) and think it means violence is crazy.
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creativerealms
06/27/18 8:36:41 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.

This is such a stupid narrative that only conservatives are weapon owners. I know plenty of liberals who support gun rights.

But we gotta get rid of those AR-15's, right?

No. They don't feel that way at all.

If they're real, they're probably Libertarians.

Funny I always saw libertarians as farther to the right then conservitives.
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cerealbox760
06/27/18 8:41:31 PM
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creativerealms posted...
darkjedilink posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.

This is such a stupid narrative that only conservatives are weapon owners. I know plenty of liberals who support gun rights.

But we gotta get rid of those AR-15's, right?

No. They don't feel that way at all.

If they're real, they're probably Libertarians.

Funny I always saw libertarians as farther to the right then conservitives.

how?
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tennisdude818
06/27/18 9:29:33 PM
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While an actual civil war is unlikely, the most likely cause for severe violence is government bankruptcy. When endless deficit financing and rising government debt finally leads to a government default or very high inflation, a lot of welfare users will flip the fuck out. "This only happened because you didn't pay your fair share! You owe me!"

Europe will probably have a few flare-ups like that before it happens here. Welfare shopping migrants will lose their shit when the gravy train hits a hard stop overnight.

That which cannot mathematically continue, will not continue.
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creativerealms
06/28/18 8:04:54 AM
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cerealbox760 posted...
creativerealms posted...
darkjedilink posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
One side is armed to the teeth with everything the Second Amendment permits.

The other side has safe spaces and pink dildos.

Id hardy call that a war.

This is such a stupid narrative that only conservatives are weapon owners. I know plenty of liberals who support gun rights.

But we gotta get rid of those AR-15's, right?

No. They don't feel that way at all.

If they're real, they're probably Libertarians.

Funny I always saw libertarians as farther to the right then conservitives.

how?

I think it was a miscommunication but I just always thought the libertarian party was the far right party.
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