Current Events > I don't get why we NEED representation in video games.

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I'm not represented in Tomb Raider. That doesn't stop me from enjoying the game.
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because if i don't see 300 lb blue haired manatees in video games then my self-esteem will be crushed and i won't be able to sleep tonight

White males probably got use to being the majority representation, so it became the norm for them. When they see others want representation they tend to lose their shit because they don't understand it, since they've always had a large representation.
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Ok well ya just said it doesnt stop you from enjoying the game so why are you arguing against it lol

And we dont need it. I actually prefer to play as characters that arent generic white dude. The weirder the better because I find it more interesting. To see things from different perspectives I think is more beneficial than to see through one that you relate to or are comfortable with or whatever.
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Games about lesbians are the best

Because representation in media is a huge part of normalizing people who have been historically stigmatized. Without any representation in media, attitudes would be significantly more backwards than they are already.

And you just admitted it doesn't stop you from enjoying the game.
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Wetterdew posted...

Because representation in media is a huge part of normalizing people who have been historically stigmatized. Without any representation in media, attitudes would be significantly more backwards than they are already.

And you just admitted it doesn't stop you from enjoying the game.

Yeah and it shouldn't stop SJWs from just enjoying the games either rather than complain that x gender isn't in them.
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If you want to make a good game you should start with the concept, build the characters up next, then fill them in. There's developers getting this process backwards and just making games around an under-represented minority first in a rush to get that pat on the back from the loud minority on the internet.
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You don't get it if you're not a minority of some sort
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Theres having a mixed cast and theres rubbing it in peoples faces. It borders on virtue signaling.
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southcoast09 posted...

Theres having a mixed cast and theres rubbing it in peoples faces. It borders on virtue signaling.

What constitutes rubbing it in people's faces?
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People don't need it.

But... They want it. Is that so wrong?
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Dyinglegacy posted...

White males probably got use to being the majority representation, so it became the norm for them. When they see others want representation they tend to lose their shit because they don't understand it, since they've always had a large representation.

This. The reaction to GTA:SA was...whew, motherfuckers blew their lids.
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Another thing, aren't there enough games with minorities in them already? They're called minorities for a reason. Of course most games aren't going to feature them.
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PanzerElite posted...

Wetterdew posted...

Because representation in media is a huge part of normalizing people who have been historically stigmatized. Without any representation in media, attitudes would be significantly more backwards than they are already.

And you just admitted it doesn't stop you from enjoying the game.

Yeah and it shouldn't stop SJWs from just enjoying the games either rather than complain that x gender isn't in them.

-Hardly anybody complains about "x gender" not being in games, you're really reaching here. Most people ask for racial, female, and LGBT representation.

-Representation in media is a huge part of normalizing historically stigmatized groups. That's why it matters.
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Taharqa_ posted...

Dyinglegacy posted...

White males probably got use to being the majority representation, so it became the norm for them. When they see others want representation they tend to lose their shit because they don't understand it, since they've always had a large representation.

This. The reaction to GTA:SA was...whew, motherfuckers blew their lids.

Holy fucking shit yeah that was amazing
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PanzerElite posted...

Another thing, aren't there enough games with minorities in them already?

Jesus Christ
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PanzerElite posted...

Another thing, aren't there enough games with minorities in them already? They're called minorities for a reason. Of course most games aren't going to feature them.

You were doing so well too

Dyinglegacy posted...

White males probably got use to being the majority representation, so it became the norm for them. When they see others want representation they tend to lose their shit because they don't understand it, since they've always had a large representation.

That doesn't explain the need, though.

As I understand it, unless minorities are over-represented in movies, they're never going to want to become CEO's and politicians and scientists - at least, that's what SJW's seem to believe.
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It would be really hard to make a game without representation of any type really. Maybe Flower on PS3. No animals, no people.

So long as we have people we are representing someone.You can argue that having a gay person is part of some agenda, but it's really not, not any more than having a straight person. It's when one way is thrown out as the only right way that it's a problem. No one wants to see people saying that being gay is wrong, but no one wants to see people attacking being straight either. It's just all about respect.

Were all people, we all deserve to live a life that makes us happy. I think it's time for us to stop looking at how people are different than us, stop embracing only whats the same, and just starting loving each other as we only have one life to live here, might as well make it one that brings happiness to the world and not hate.

PanzerElite posted...

Another thing, aren't there enough games with minorities in them already? They're called minorities for a reason. Of course most games aren't going to feature them.

There shouldn't be a minimum or maximum amount of minority characters out there, and if they're done well and tastefully they're just "good characters" and not just diversity for PR's sake

That being said, the reason why there's so many vanilla white characters is because a lot of the games are made by vanilla white people. They're basing characters off who they'd like to be, or inspired by people around them, and if you grew up in Finland and wanted to make a game you're probably not going to know enough about other cultures to base characters off them unless you've gotten a really good idea of an archtype you'd like to use.
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Antifar posted...

What constitutes rubbing it in people's faces?

Spening 10+ seconds of an E3 trailer to show two characters making out, for one.

To make us more mindful and thoughtful consumers of the media we enjoy.

To improve our empathy skills in a pluralistic society by using gaming's interactive nature to help players imagine themselves in the lives of people different from themselves.

To get more and more types of people playing video games. The more voices and identities present in a media landscape, the richer that landscape becomes. It's true of books, sculpture, television, painting, music, and cinema. In denying ourselves, we're creatively stifling the potential of the medium.
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Taharqa_ posted...

The reaction to GTA:SA was...whew, motherfuckers blew their lids.

???
The only outcry I heard about the protag of that game was from a rapper that claimed they stole his life story to make the game...
I personally never gave a shit that the character was white or black.
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Amazon_Shampoo posted...

It would be really hard to make a game without representation of any type really. Maybe Flower on PS3. No animals, no people.

So long as we have people we are representing someone.You can argue that having a gay person is part of some agenda, but it's really not, not any more than having a straight person. It's when one way is thrown out as the only right way that it's a problem. No one wants to see people saying that being gay is wrong, but no one wants to see people attacking being straight either. It's just all about respect.

Were all people, we all deserve to live a life that makes us happy. I think it's time for us to stop looking at how people are different than us, stop embracing only whats the same, and just starting loving each other as we only have one life to live here, might as well make it one that brings happiness to the world and not hate.

Great post, especially those first two paragraphs
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HiddenLurker posted...

Taharqa_ posted...

The reaction to GTA:SA was...whew, motherfuckers blew their lids.

???
The only outcry I heard about the protag of that game was from a rapper that claimed they stole his life story to make the game...
I personally never gave a shit that the character was white or black.

You must have not been around these boards back then
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Yeah I don't get it.

Kingdom Come: Deliverance and Witcher get hate for not having black characters despite it not making sense.

Resident Evil has a wide range of different people Ada Wong, Piers, Keith, Carlos, Sheva, Billy and more.

All of those characters are very likeable and the main complaint is how you barely see them, yet RE still got hate from people for featuring black zombies in a game that took place in Africa.

It shouldn't matter, yet people always seem to make it that way. You should advertise cultures explored, be more Age of Empires or Aurion or Okami.
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