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treewojima
06/16/18 3:06:49 PM
#51:


black. I'll listen to death too, as long as it isn't overproduced
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CelestialVoices
06/16/18 8:41:21 PM
#52:


np: saint vitus - born too late
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SpiralDrift
06/16/18 8:46:10 PM
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I like both but I'm not a huge fan of either. I guess I like death a bit more. Early death metal like Possessed, Autopsy, Insanity and Morbid Angel are more to my liking but I like some of the later stuff, too.

CelestialVoices posted...
80s heavy metal is actually the best np: mercyful fate

But also this.
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/16/18 8:47:57 PM
#54:


BJ-blazkowics posted...
what is the difference?

Huge difference.

Death metal is all about really low pitched vocals, lower guitar notes, double bass drumming, and an obsession with power, extremity, and aggression, and lyrical themes about violence and gore (generally). The tempo is usually very fast.

Black metal uses tremolo-picked high pitched notes and a slow, dark, evil, atmospheric vibe. The vocals are these "shrieks" that are meant to sound like people possessed by demons or something but to me they sound like goblins. Black metal is all about Satanic/occult imagery. Also everything sounds like it's recorded in somebody's bathroom.
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SpiralDrift
06/16/18 8:50:56 PM
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Slow and fat death metal > fast death metal
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CelestialVoices
06/16/18 9:15:43 PM
#56:


rec some slow and fat

also i encourage anyone who's a fan of agalloch / panopticon / etc to check out falls of rauros, their last three albums are the queen bee's knees
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EverDownward
06/16/18 11:07:11 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww4-WaNxDDI" data-time="

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therin_lews_kin
06/16/18 11:21:20 PM
#58:


CelestialVoices posted...
rec some slow and fat


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuT6xJobj7k" data-time="


more doom than death, imo

still chunky af
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a-c-a-b
06/16/18 11:28:13 PM
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Depends on my mood but I really can't pick one over the other cuz they're both great.

Tonight I'm in the mood for some worship of the almighty Bolt Thrower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYQtbeoZRQ0" data-time="

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Flockaveli
06/16/18 11:36:50 PM
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CelestialVoices posted...
rec some slow and fat

Deathcore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqYE9kYYtkQ" data-time="

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a-c-a-b
06/16/18 11:43:49 PM
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I have this on vinyl. Pretty decent black metal from Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71f8p2JfF9A" data-time="

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CelestialVoices
06/17/18 1:01:08 PM
#62:


np testament - into the pit
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Panthera
06/17/18 1:02:06 PM
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NP: Death - Denial of Life

I'm lukewarm on some of their more popular albums but Scream Bloody Gore and Leprosy are legit
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Rikiaz
06/17/18 4:37:28 PM
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Panthera posted...
NP: Death - Denial of Life

I'm lukewarm on some of their more popular albums but Scream Bloody Gore and Leprosy are legit

Human and The Sound of Perseverance > the rest of Death
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LinksLiege
06/17/18 4:42:13 PM
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Flockaveli posted...
CelestialVoices posted...
rec some slow and fat

Deathcore.

[Black Tongue]

I was gonna object to deathcore being slow and fat but, I guess if you're including the downtempo offshoot then yeah.
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CelestialVoices
06/18/18 9:48:30 PM
#66:


np: boy pablo - everytime
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Vicious_Dios
06/18/18 9:58:10 PM
#67:


Death.

I can transition from BM to DM under extended listening sessions, but I can't do the opposite for the life of me.
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SSJCAT
06/18/18 9:59:13 PM
#68:


No idea what the difference is all metal pretty much sounds the same to me closest things Ill listen to it is like fuzzy stoner doom rock
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/18/18 10:05:47 PM
#69:


SSJCAT posted...
No idea what the difference is all metal pretty much sounds the same to me

Now there is a lot of pretention in the subgenre categorization aspect of it where you get stuff like "is this stoner or sludge or doom?" and "is this brutal technical death metal or technical brutal death metal?", but there are a handful of big main categories that sound completely different.
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LinksLiege
06/19/18 12:16:03 AM
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It's really no different from...well, anything else. We categorize things. Sometimes we make minute distinctions. But it's only pretentious when it happens to metal.
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Winnsock
06/19/18 12:37:18 AM
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I listen to way more black, but death is my jam too. Go listen to some fuckin Cianide. And if you want something newer that has a bit of that Morbid Angel feel, the most recent Perdition Temple album rips.
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CelestialVoices
06/19/18 5:30:23 PM
#72:


unpopular opinion: covenant is my favorite morbid angel album (of the first 3)
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Winnsock
06/19/18 7:53:33 PM
#73:


CelestialVoices posted...
unpopular opinion: covenant is my favorite morbid angel album (of the first 3)


Mine as well. The last track is killer, and Angel of Disease is probably my favorite track of theirs.
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MutantJohn
06/19/18 7:56:34 PM
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Why is the OP's taste in death metal so outdated?
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/19/18 7:57:45 PM
#75:


MutantJohn posted...
Why is the OP's taste in death metal so outdated?

Death metal is old enough to have classics
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CelestialVoices
06/19/18 8:13:53 PM
#76:


Why is the OP's taste in death metal so outdated?


i haven't been into death metal since like 2008 and i was never super into the classic stuff so i decided to go back to the basics
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MutantJohn
06/19/18 11:32:51 PM
#77:


CelestialVoices posted...
Why is the OP's taste in death metal so outdated?


i haven't been into death metal since like 2008 and i was never super into the classic stuff so i decided to go back to the basics

Omg are you that cat that thinks Death is the best death metal band?
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CelestialVoices
06/19/18 11:56:26 PM
#78:


i am not a cat
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jborgan
06/19/18 11:59:12 PM
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MutantJohn posted...
Why is the OP's taste in death metal so outdated?

Are these albums supposed to be bad now or something?
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CelestialVoices
06/20/18 12:00:08 AM
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nah but really, I think Death is pretty good but I'm not at a point where I could choose a favorite or best death metal band, except for maybe shout out Demilich because Nespithe ruined all other death metal for me
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MutantJohn
06/20/18 12:41:00 AM
#81:


> Are these albums supposed to be bad now or something?

Nah, growling was just weaker back then, imo.

Modern vocalists have significantly better range and style.
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WafflehouseJK
06/20/18 1:40:44 AM
#82:


What's some good stuff for someone who wants to get into the genre?

I kinda wanna ween myself into it, have had very little exposure to the genre.
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jborgan
06/20/18 1:47:20 AM
#83:


Whenever I want to dig deep into a genre, I usually use this site:

https://tinyurl.com/y9mblj3u

You can sort by highest rated on the site and I just work my way down. You can also choose subgenres if you want to narrow the list down.

But my personal favorites are:
Dismember - Like an Ever Flowing Stream
Carcass - Heartwork
Pestilence - Consuming Impulse
Immolation - Close to a World Below
Atheist - Piece of Time
Edge of Sanity - Crimson
Amorphis - Tales From the Thousand Lakes
Unanimated - Ancient God of Evil
Obituary - Slowly We Rot
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Panthera
06/20/18 1:57:23 AM
#84:


WafflehouseJK posted...
What's some good stuff for someone who wants to get into the genre?

I kinda wanna ween myself into it, have had very little exposure to the genre.


Death or black?

For death metal, some good stuff that's fairly accessible would be

Possessed - Seven Churches (arguably more of a thrash album, a huge influence on death metal regardless)
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Entombed - Left Hand Path
Immolation - Close to a World Below

For black metal...

Samael - Ceremony of Opposites
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky
Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness
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WafflehouseJK
06/20/18 2:07:47 AM
#85:


Panthera posted...
WafflehouseJK posted...
What's some good stuff for someone who wants to get into the genre?

I kinda wanna ween myself into it, have had very little exposure to the genre.


Death or black?


I'm interested in trying both, never listened much to either.

Thanks for the recs! Gonna try them out.
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CelestialVoices
06/20/18 9:24:50 PM
#86:


np: bolt thrower - the killchain
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au_gold
06/20/18 9:35:50 PM
#87:


All I know is that Darkthrone is the best band ever.
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Flockaveli
06/20/18 9:36:27 PM
#88:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAjZncvBfgI" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xixI-q5wFpg" data-time="


How can anyone listen to this and say they prefer Black Metal?
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jborgan
06/20/18 9:44:27 PM
#89:


Flockaveli posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAjZncvBfgI" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xixI-q5wFpg" data-time="


How can anyone listen to this and say they prefer Black Metal?

Because there's a lot of great black metal out there and it's better than those songs.
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LinksLiege
06/20/18 9:47:00 PM
#90:


WafflehouseJK posted...
What's some good stuff for someone who wants to get into the genre?

I kinda wanna ween myself into it, have had very little exposure to the genre.

I'll agree with Panthera's recs but I'll also add onto that, if you find them a bit too jarring, you might find it easier to start with melodic death/black metal which tempers the...deathiness (or blackiness) with some more accessible melodies.

Amon Amarth for melodeath, Sworn for melodiblack. Those are my personal favorites for those subgenres.
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Panthera
06/20/18 10:19:20 PM
#91:


You either listen to the true shit or you're not true enough for metal!

<_<

lol
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LinksLiege
06/20/18 10:20:55 PM
#92:


You're talking to someone who listens to Lady GaGa from time to time.

True isn't exactly my speed.
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Flockaveli
06/20/18 10:25:44 PM
#93:


I'm more than happy not being a "true metalhead". Old school Death Metal for the most part fucking sucks and it all sounds the same and very slow and hardly any of the riffs bang and when they do it's stuffed between 1 1/2 minutes of nonsense before I get to hear it again. BM is a joke 99% of the time.
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Panthera
06/20/18 10:38:27 PM
#94:


LinksLiege posted...
You're talking to someone who listens to Lady GaGa from time to time.

True isn't exactly my speed.


On CE discussing metal most of us who do it joke around about either being elitists or about hating it 90% of the time
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LinksLiege
06/20/18 10:57:16 PM
#95:


I know, I know.

Unless it's that one guy who eats pussies in the pit.
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ultimate reaver
06/20/18 11:06:20 PM
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LuBu_22
06/20/18 11:07:16 PM
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Old school death metal is life
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CelestialVoices
06/21/18 1:30:58 AM
#98:


tbh for black metal i would recommend these albums

seconding darkthrone but i haven't listened to them a looot so idk which album. i'm partial to panzerfaust though
burzum- first four albums
immortal - diabolical fullmoon mysticism / pure holocaust (although these earlier albums are different from the one already mentioned, either era may be more your thing)
emperor - in the nightside eclipse
mayhem - de mysteriis dom sathanas
enslaved - vikingligr veldi
ulver - bergtatt

also anything by bathory up through the sixth album. first 3 albums are more raw, latter three are still raw but more epic (traditionally epic not mid-00s epic)
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CelestialVoices
06/21/18 4:09:57 PM
#99:


np: death - human [1993] - lack of comprehension

Old school death metal is life

what are ur favs
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a-c-a-b
06/21/18 7:37:54 PM
#100:


Mental Funeral is such a wicked album.
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