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Howl 06/08/18 4:45:15 PM #101:	shockthemonkey posted... Howl posted... shockthemonkey posted... Howl posted... Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason! Thats how you sound "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own point in order to pretend abortions arent medical procedures Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality. Completely given up on your shits and giggles nonsense? Thats good. Not at all, people do evil shit for fun or think its funny all the time. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902789420] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <quote> Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason! Thats how you sound </quote> "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. </quote> Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own point in order to pretend abortions arent medical procedures </quote> Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality.</quote> Completely given up on your shits and giggles nonsense? Thats good.</quote> Not at all, people do evil shit for fun or think its funny all the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 06/08/18 4:47:17 PM #103:	shockthemonkey posted... Ok prove it, Hoth https://www.smh.com.au/world/brazilian-man-sailson-jose-das-gracas-admits-killing-41-people-for-fun-20141212-125i7c.html --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902789521] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Ok prove it, Hoth</quote> https://www.smh.com.au/world/brazilian-man-sailson-jose-das-gracas-admits-killing-41-people-for-fun-20141212-125i7c.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 06/08/18 5:02:22 PM #105:	Howl posted... shockthemonkey posted... Howl posted... ?Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason!? That?s how you sound "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own ?point? in order to pretend abortions aren?t medical procedures Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality. What is "evil" about it? I use quotes because evil is a silly concept and is not real as far as I'm concerned. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:902790320] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <quote> ?Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason!? That?s how you sound </quote> "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated.</quote> Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own ?point? in order to pretend abortions aren?t medical procedures</quote> Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality.</quote> What is "evil" about it? I use quotes because evil is a silly concept and is not real as far as I'm concerned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 5:08:20 PM #106:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Howl posted... shockthemonkey posted... Howl posted... ?Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason!? That?s how you sound "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own ?point? in order to pretend abortions aren?t medical procedures Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality. What is "evil" about it? I use quotes because evil is a silly concept and is not real as far as I'm concerned. This is the definition of evil that has no metaphysical connotations that I'm using for the purposes of the argument. Evil 1. profoundly immoral and malevolent. Idk how you can make an argument that that doesn't exist. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902790633] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <quote> ?Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason!? That?s how you sound </quote> "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. </quote> Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own ?point? in order to pretend abortions aren?t medical procedures </quote> Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality.</quote> What is "evil" about it? I use quotes because evil is a silly concept and is not real as far as I'm concerned.</quote> This is the definition of evil that has no metaphysical connotations that I'm using for the purposes of the argument. Evil 1. profoundly immoral and malevolent. Idk how you can make an argument that that doesn't exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 06/08/18 5:14:59 PM #107:	Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Howl posted... shockthemonkey posted... Howl posted... ?Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason!? That?s how you sound "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own ?point? in order to pretend abortions aren?t medical procedures Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality. What is "evil" about it? I use quotes because evil is a silly concept and is not real as far as I'm concerned. This is the definition of evil that has no metaphysical connotations that I'm using for the purposes of the argument. Evil 1. profoundly immoral and malevolent. Idk how you can make an argument that that doesn't exist. I like to make various arguments to give people a means to respond to me while dodging the question I've asked. I do lots of little things to get reads on people. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:902791011] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <quote> ?Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason!? That?s how you sound </quote> "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. </quote> Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own ?point? in order to pretend abortions aren?t medical procedures </quote> Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality.</quote> What is "evil" about it? I use quotes because evil is a silly concept and is not real as far as I'm concerned.</quote> This is the definition of evil that has no metaphysical connotations that I'm using for the purposes of the argument. Evil 1. profoundly immoral and malevolent. Idk how you can make an argument that that doesn't exist.</quote> I like to make various arguments to give people a means to respond to me while dodging the question I've asked. I do lots of little things to get reads on people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 5:19:32 PM #108:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Howl posted... shockthemonkey posted... Howl posted... ?Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason!? That?s how you sound "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own ?point? in order to pretend abortions aren?t medical procedures Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality. What is "evil" about it? I use quotes because evil is a silly concept and is not real as far as I'm concerned. This is the definition of evil that has no metaphysical connotations that I'm using for the purposes of the argument. Evil 1. profoundly immoral and malevolent. Idk how you can make an argument that that doesn't exist. I like to make various arguments to give people a means to respond to me while dodging the question I've asked. I do lots of little things to get reads on people. What question of yours did I dodge in any way? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902791298] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <quote> ?Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason!? That?s how you sound </quote> "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. </quote> Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own ?point? in order to pretend abortions aren?t medical procedures </quote> Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality. </quote> What is "evil" about it? I use quotes because evil is a silly concept and is not real as far as I'm concerned. </quote> This is the definition of evil that has no metaphysical connotations that I'm using for the purposes of the argument. Evil 1. profoundly immoral and malevolent. Idk how you can make an argument that that doesn't exist.</quote> I like to make various arguments to give people a means to respond to me while dodging the question I've asked. I do lots of little things to get reads on people.</quote> What question of yours did I dodge in any way?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 06/08/18 5:20:36 PM #109:	What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:902791360] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 06/08/18 5:21:59 PM #111:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902791440] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how.</quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 06/08/18 5:25:35 PM #112:	Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. The only thing a fetus is a victim of is being conceived without its consent. Abortion is justice for that conception victim. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:902791637] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how.</quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil.</quote> The only thing a fetus is a victim of is being conceived without its consent. Abortion is justice for that conception victim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 5:28:48 PM #113:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. The only thing a fetus is a victim of is being conceived without its consent. Abortion is justice for that conception victim. Everything you said other than the last sentence only gives credence to my argument, not yours. For a "fetus"to be a victim of being conceived without its consent, you have to agree that a "fetus" is a conscious being, otherwise it would be no victim in any sense. It would be more like destroying a chair. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902791822] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. </quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil.</quote> The only thing a fetus is a victim of is being conceived without its consent. Abortion is justice for that conception victim.</quote> Everything you said other than the last sentence only gives credence to my argument, not yours. For a "fetus"to be a victim of being conceived without its consent, you have to agree that a "fetus" is a conscious being, otherwise it would be no victim in any sense. It would be more like destroying a chair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 06/08/18 5:34:05 PM #115:	Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. The only thing a fetus is a victim of is being conceived without its consent. Abortion is justice for that conception victim. Everything you said other than the last sentence only gives credence to my argument, not yours. For a "fetus"to be a victim of being conceived without its consent, you have to agree that a "fetus" is a conscious being, otherwise it would be no victim in any sense. It would be more like destroying a chair. lol. Now that is taking the bait. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:902792124] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. </quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil.</quote> The only thing a fetus is a victim of is being conceived without its consent. Abortion is justice for that conception victim.</quote> Everything you said other than the last sentence only gives credence to my argument, not yours. For a "fetus"to be a victim of being conceived without its consent, you have to agree that a "fetus" is a conscious being, otherwise it would be no victim in any sense. It would be more like destroying a chair.</quote> lol. Now that is taking the bait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Unowninator- 06/08/18 5:58:22 PM #116:	Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. You can't kill something that isn't alive. --- ''25 posts in and no one has addressed the orignal question. Also, I'm continuing that streak :P'' ~ Lord_Zenki Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn <cite>-Unowninator- posted [p:902793414] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how.</quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil.</quote> You can't kill something that isn't alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 6:05:36 PM #117:	-Unowninator- posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. You can't kill something that isn't alive. Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902793774] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Unowninator- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. </quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil.</quote> You can't kill something that isn't alive.</quote> Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 06/08/18 6:21:30 PM #118:	Howl posted... -Unowninator- posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. You can't kill something that isn't alive. Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth? I personally don't support late ones like that, but I wouldn't have a problem with them being legal. They should call them something else though, like "super abortions" or something. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:902794566] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-Unowninator- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. </quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil.</quote> You can't kill something that isn't alive.</quote> Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth?</quote> I personally don't support late ones like that, but I wouldn't have a problem with them being legal. They should call them something else though, like "super abortions" or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 06/08/18 6:29:35 PM #119:	Paragon21XX posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Howl posted... To reiterate any woman who just kills their baby out of convenience and feels no bit of remorse for doing so, is just a straight up monster. But you're not using an actual proper definition of the word "baby" when you say this. You're splitting hairs. Yeah, one of the most contentious points in the entire abortion debate is just splitting hairs --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:902794983] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>To reiterate any woman who just kills their baby out of convenience and feels no bit of remorse for doing so, is just a straight up monster.</quote> But you're not using an actual proper definition of the word "baby" when you say this.</quote> You're splitting hairs.</quote> Yeah, one of the most contentious points in the entire abortion debate is just splitting hairs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 6:32:52 PM #120:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Howl posted... -Unowninator- posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. You can't kill something that isn't alive. Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth? I personally don't support late ones like that, but I wouldn't have a problem with them being legal. They should call them something else though, like "super abortions" or something. Why don't you support them if you have no issue with them being legal? What's the difference? They're just a "fetus" right? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902795169] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>-Unowninator- posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. </quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. </quote> You can't kill something that isn't alive. </quote> Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth?</quote> I personally don't support late ones like that, but I wouldn't have a problem with them being legal. They should call them something else though, like "super abortions" or something.</quote> Why don't you support them if you have no issue with them being legal? What's the difference? They're just a "fetus" right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShutTheF---_Up 06/08/18 6:41:27 PM #122:	Howl posted... shockthemonkey posted... Howl posted... Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason! Thats how you sound "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own point in order to pretend abortions arent medical procedures Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality. You mean the same reality in which abortion is legal throughout the entire country because it's recognized as a medical procedure and not the dumb melodramatic shit you label it as? --- Another Conflict alt cause mawds don't like me <cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted [p:902795651] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <quote> Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason! Thats how you sound </quote> "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated.</quote> Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own point in order to pretend abortions arent medical procedures</quote> Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality.</quote> You mean the same reality in which abortion is legal throughout the entire country because it's recognized as a medical procedure and not the dumb melodramatic shit you label it as?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Unowninator- 06/08/18 6:43:08 PM #123:	Howl posted... -Unowninator- posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. You can't kill something that isn't alive. Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth? Pretty much, yes. --- ''25 posts in and no one has addressed the orignal question. Also, I'm continuing that streak :P'' ~ Lord_Zenki Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn <cite>-Unowninator- posted [p:902795746] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-Unowninator- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. </quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil.</quote> You can't kill something that isn't alive.</quote> Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth?</quote> Pretty much, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 6:45:19 PM #124:	ShutTheF---_Up posted... Howl posted... shockthemonkey posted... Howl posted... Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason! Thats how you sound "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own point in order to pretend abortions arent medical procedures Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality. You mean the same reality in which abortion is legal throughout the entire country because it's recognized as a medical procedure and not the dumb melodramatic shit you label it as? It's not legal because it's recognized as a "medical procedure" it's legal because the Supreme Court ruled that bodily autonomy is paramount. They didn't address the issue of whether or not a fetus was a conscious being comparable to a human in any manner. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902795856] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <quote> Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason! Thats how you sound </quote> "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. </quote> Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own point in order to pretend abortions arent medical procedures </quote> Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality.</quote> You mean the same reality in which abortion is legal throughout the entire country because it's recognized as a medical procedure and not the dumb melodramatic shit you label it as?</quote> It's not legal because it's recognized as a "medical procedure" it's legal because the Supreme Court ruled that bodily autonomy is paramount. They didn't address the issue of whether or not a fetus was a conscious being comparable to a human in any manner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 06/08/18 6:47:32 PM #125:	Howl posted... ShutTheF---_Up posted... Howl posted... shockthemonkey posted... Howl posted... Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason! Thats how you sound "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own point in order to pretend abortions arent medical procedures Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality. You mean the same reality in which abortion is legal throughout the entire country because it's recognized as a medical procedure and not the dumb melodramatic shit you label it as? It's not legal because it's recognized as a "medical procedure" it's legal because the Supreme Court ruled that bodily autonomy is paramount. They didn't address the issue of whether or not a fetus was a conscious being comparable to a human in any manner. Lol. You really do provide some of the bests laughs around here Howl. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:902795968] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <quote> Why are people happy to have had a medical procedure done that substantially increased their quality of life? They just have had it done for no reason! Thats how you sound </quote> "Killing a baby is just a medical procedure" is not only how you sound, it's what you just stated. </quote> Hey look at Hoth deflecting away from his own point in order to pretend abortions arent medical procedures </quote> Hey look stm completely misrepresenting the reality of what abortions are because he can't face the cold hard evilness of the act. His life will crumble if he ever comes to grip with reality.</quote> You mean the same reality in which abortion is legal throughout the entire country because it's recognized as a medical procedure and not the dumb melodramatic shit you label it as?</quote> It's not legal because it's recognized as a "medical procedure" it's legal because the Supreme Court ruled that bodily autonomy is paramount. They didn't address the issue of whether or not a fetus was a conscious being comparable to a human in any manner.</quote> Lol. You really do provide some of the bests laughs around here Howl.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 6:47:52 PM #126:	-Unowninator- posted... Howl posted... -Unowninator- posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. You can't kill something that isn't alive. Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth? Pretty much, yes. What exactly is the differenve in a baby being born 1 day later than their due date and a baby being born exactly on their due date then? Is your belief that a human is not a human untill birth regardless of gestational age? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902795980] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Unowninator- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>-Unowninator- posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. </quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. </quote> You can't kill something that isn't alive. </quote> Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth?</quote> Pretty much, yes.</quote> What exactly is the differenve in a baby being born 1 day later than their due date and a baby being born exactly on their due date then? Is your belief that a human is not a human untill birth regardless of gestational age?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShutTheF---_Up 06/08/18 6:48:28 PM #127:	It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. --- Another Conflict alt cause mawds don't like me <cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted [p:902796007] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 06/08/18 6:50:29 PM #128:	Howl posted... -Unowninator- posted... Howl posted... -Unowninator- posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. You can't kill something that isn't alive. Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth? Pretty much, yes. What exactly is the differenve in a baby being born 1 day later than their due date and a baby being born exactly on their due date then? Is your belief that a human is not a human untill birth regardless of gestational age? No you're all over the place here dude. The next question is "do you support mercy kills after birth" or something along those lines. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:902796121] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-Unowninator- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>-Unowninator- posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. </quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. </quote> You can't kill something that isn't alive. </quote> Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth?</quote> Pretty much, yes.</quote> What exactly is the differenve in a baby being born 1 day later than their due date and a baby being born exactly on their due date then? Is your belief that a human is not a human untill birth regardless of gestational age?</quote> No you're all over the place here dude. The next question is "do you support mercy kills after birth" or something along those lines.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/08/18 6:50:29 PM #129:	I dont care what anyone says or thinks both me and the wife would never want to carry a full term baby with down syndrome. That kids quality of life will be short and awful. It would be a whole lifestyle adjustment and probably way too much money --- Cubs, Rockies, Grizzlies, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:902796123] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>I dont care what anyone says or thinks both me and the wife would never want to carry a full term baby with down syndrome. That kids quality of life will be short and awful. It would be a whole lifestyle adjustment and probably way too much money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkraiomb 06/08/18 6:52:58 PM #130:	@Howl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQey-2LP1E4" data-time=" --- "Calling Trump a nazi should be moddable. Because if you do youre trolling Americans and anyone with a brain. "~ KingCrabCake <cite>Darkraiomb posted [p:902796241] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>@Howl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQey-2LP1E4" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 6:53:41 PM #131:	ShutTheF---_Up posted... It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902796277] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote> It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place.</quote> The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 06/08/18 6:55:54 PM #132:	Howl posted... ShutTheF---_Up posted... It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth. But they agree with the topic that this decision is wrong which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something? I'd bet money if this issue ever ends up at the SC it's gonna get slapped down again. Not allowing abortions because the child has down syndrome makes no sense. Edit: looks like it's already being challenged in court. In which case it's probably gonna be overturned. Not surprising to anyone who's not a religious nut. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:902796398] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote> It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place.</quote> The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth.</quote> But they agree with the topic that this decision is wrong which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something? I'd bet money if this issue ever ends up at the SC it's gonna get slapped down again. Not allowing abortions because the child has down syndrome makes no sense. Edit: looks like it's already being challenged in court. In which case it's probably gonna be overturned. Not surprising to anyone who's not a religious nut.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShutTheF---_Up 06/08/18 6:56:21 PM #133:	Lol when did I say I support abortions "until the moment of birth" --- Another Conflict alt cause mawds don't like me <cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted [p:902796426] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>Lol when did I say I support abortions "until the moment of birth"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Unowninator- 06/08/18 6:58:33 PM #134:	ShutTheF---_Up posted... Lol when did I say I support abortions "until the moment of birth" I believe he was talking about me. --- ''25 posts in and no one has addressed the orignal question. Also, I'm continuing that streak :P'' ~ Lord_Zenki Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn <cite>-Unowninator- posted [p:902796538] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote>Lol when did I say I support abortions "until the moment of birth"</quote> I believe he was talking about me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 7:00:00 PM #135:	Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... ShutTheF---_Up posted... It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth. But they agree with the topic which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something? The point is that the Supreme Court did not rule on the consciousness of unborn babies at all. The only indication in their ruling they even considered the question was that they said that existing laws that protect "persons" did not have any evidence to fall under that definition legally at the time. That does not mean in any way that the Supreme Court favors your argument. If there were sufficient evidence brought before the court that a fetus is a person legally, then Roe V Wade would be overturned because that was the sole reason for their judgement at the time. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902796618] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote> It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. </quote> The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth.</quote> But they agree with the topic which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something?</quote> The point is that the Supreme Court did not rule on the consciousness of unborn babies at all. The only indication in their ruling they even considered the question was that they said that existing laws that protect "persons" did not have any evidence to fall under that definition legally at the time. That does not mean in any way that the Supreme Court favors your argument. If there were sufficient evidence brought before the court that a fetus is a person legally, then Roe V Wade would be overturned because that was the sole reason for their judgement at the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 06/08/18 7:02:13 PM #136:	Howl posted... Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... ShutTheF---_Up posted... It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth. But they agree with the topic which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something? The point is that the Supreme Court did not rule on the consciousness of unborn babies at all. The only indication in their ruling they even considered the question was that they said that existing laws that protect "persons" did not have any evidence to fall under that definition legally at the time. That does not mean in any way that the Supreme Court favors your argument. If there were sufficient evidence brought before the court that a fetus is a person legally, then Roe V Wade would be overturned because that was the sole reason for their judgement at the time. Ya except for the whole "a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion". They said it had to be balanced by a states interest hence why it was decided on third trimesters. So once again you're wrong. Also the fetus being legally a human part is such a reach I'll just say you go on fighting that fight. If you someone get there we can discuss that more in depth. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:902796742] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote> It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. </quote> The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth.</quote> But they agree with the topic which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something?</quote> The point is that the Supreme Court did not rule on the consciousness of unborn babies at all. The only indication in their ruling they even considered the question was that they said that existing laws that protect "persons" did not have any evidence to fall under that definition legally at the time. That does not mean in any way that the Supreme Court favors your argument. If there were sufficient evidence brought before the court that a fetus is a person legally, then Roe V Wade would be overturned because that was the sole reason for their judgement at the time.</quote> Ya except for the whole "a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion". They said it had to be balanced by a states interest hence why it was decided on third trimesters. So once again you're wrong. Also the fetus being legally a human part is such a reach I'll just say you go on fighting that fight. If you someone get there we can discuss that more in depth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/08/18 7:05:47 PM #137:	I just know I would rather be aborted than be born with down syndrome. Release my soul from the messed up chromosomes and let me return in a fresher, healthier egg please. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:902796888] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>I just know I would rather be aborted than be born with down syndrome. Release my soul from the messed up chromosomes and let me return in a fresher, healthier egg please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 06/08/18 7:09:20 PM #138:	Howl posted... #SYA is pretty overtly people being giddy about it. no she isnt shes treating it with irreverence <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:902797066] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>#SYA is pretty overtly people being giddy about it. </quote> no she isnt shes treating it with irreverence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 7:11:11 PM #139:	FrenchCrunch posted... Howl posted... #SYA is pretty overtly people being giddy about it. no she isnt shes treating it with irreverence Shouting about something is not treating it it irreverance. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902797142] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> #SYA is pretty overtly people being giddy about it. </quote> no she isnt shes treating it with irreverence</quote> Shouting about something is not treating it it irreverance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 7:13:06 PM #140:	Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... ShutTheF---_Up posted... It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth. But they agree with the topic which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something? The point is that the Supreme Court did not rule on the consciousness of unborn babies at all. The only indication in their ruling they even considered the question was that they said that existing laws that protect "persons" did not have any evidence to fall under that definition legally at the time. That does not mean in any way that the Supreme Court favors your argument. If there were sufficient evidence brought before the court that a fetus is a person legally, then Roe V Wade would be overturned because that was the sole reason for their judgement at the time. Ya except for the whole "a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion". They said it had to be balanced by a states interest hence why it was decided on third trimesters. So once again you're wrong. Also the fetus being legally a human part is such a reach I'll just say you go on fighting that fight. If you someone get there we can discuss that more in depth. The protections under the 14th was only ruled on as part of the State having insufficient evidence that a fetus is legally a person and therefore did not have a greater interest in providing protection to it than what the 14th Ammendment affords. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902797230] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote> It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. </quote> The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth. </quote> But they agree with the topic which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something? </quote> The point is that the Supreme Court did not rule on the consciousness of unborn babies at all. The only indication in their ruling they even considered the question was that they said that existing laws that protect "persons" did not have any evidence to fall under that definition legally at the time. That does not mean in any way that the Supreme Court favors your argument. If there were sufficient evidence brought before the court that a fetus is a person legally, then Roe V Wade would be overturned because that was the sole reason for their judgement at the time.</quote> Ya except for the whole "a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion". They said it had to be balanced by a states interest hence why it was decided on third trimesters. So once again you're wrong. Also the fetus being legally a human part is such a reach I'll just say you go on fighting that fight. If you someone get there we can discuss that more in depth.</quote> The protections under the 14th was only ruled on as part of the State having insufficient evidence that a fetus is legally a person and therefore did not have a greater interest in providing protection to it than what the 14th Ammendment affords.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 06/08/18 7:13:07 PM #141:	Intentionally passing unconstitutional legislation should be illegal with a minimum sentence of life. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:902797234] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>Intentionally passing unconstitutional legislation should be illegal with a minimum sentence of life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 06/08/18 7:15:47 PM #142:	Howl posted... Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... ShutTheF---_Up posted... It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth. But they agree with the topic which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something? The point is that the Supreme Court did not rule on the consciousness of unborn babies at all. The only indication in their ruling they even considered the question was that they said that existing laws that protect "persons" did not have any evidence to fall under that definition legally at the time. That does not mean in any way that the Supreme Court favors your argument. If there were sufficient evidence brought before the court that a fetus is a person legally, then Roe V Wade would be overturned because that was the sole reason for their judgement at the time. Ya except for the whole "a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion". They said it had to be balanced by a states interest hence why it was decided on third trimesters. So once again you're wrong. Also the fetus being legally a human part is such a reach I'll just say you go on fighting that fight. If you someone get there we can discuss that more in depth. The protections under the 14th was only ruled on as part of the State having insufficient evidence that a fetus is legally a person and therefore did not have a greater interest in providing protection to it than what the 14th Ammendment affords. Yes, that was already mentioned in my post. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:902797357] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote> It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. </quote> The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth. </quote> But they agree with the topic which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something? </quote> The point is that the Supreme Court did not rule on the consciousness of unborn babies at all. The only indication in their ruling they even considered the question was that they said that existing laws that protect "persons" did not have any evidence to fall under that definition legally at the time. That does not mean in any way that the Supreme Court favors your argument. If there were sufficient evidence brought before the court that a fetus is a person legally, then Roe V Wade would be overturned because that was the sole reason for their judgement at the time.</quote> Ya except for the whole "a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion". They said it had to be balanced by a states interest hence why it was decided on third trimesters. So once again you're wrong. Also the fetus being legally a human part is such a reach I'll just say you go on fighting that fight. If you someone get there we can discuss that more in depth.</quote> The protections under the 14th was only ruled on as part of the State having insufficient evidence that a fetus is legally a person and therefore did not have a greater interest in providing protection to it than what the 14th Ammendment affords.</quote> Yes, that was already mentioned in my post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 7:19:36 PM #143:	Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... ShutTheF---_Up posted... It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth. But they agree with the topic which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something? The point is that the Supreme Court did not rule on the consciousness of unborn babies at all. The only indication in their ruling they even considered the question was that they said that existing laws that protect "persons" did not have any evidence to fall under that definition legally at the time. That does not mean in any way that the Supreme Court favors your argument. If there were sufficient evidence brought before the court that a fetus is a person legally, then Roe V Wade would be overturned because that was the sole reason for their judgement at the time. Ya except for the whole "a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion". They said it had to be balanced by a states interest hence why it was decided on third trimesters. So once again you're wrong. Also the fetus being legally a human part is such a reach I'll just say you go on fighting that fight. If you someone get there we can discuss that more in depth. The protections under the 14th was only ruled on as part of the State having insufficient evidence that a fetus is legally a person and therefore did not have a greater interest in providing protection to it than what the 14th Ammendment affords. Yes, that was already mentioned in my post. Yeah and its irrelevant to the argument that the Supreme Court agrees with the logic that you're attempting to make. The argument you are attempting to make is that "fetuses" are not conscious life and should not be protected. But the Supreme Court has never even considered that issue. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902797518] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote> It's legal for both reasons. And ultimately those people don't think of it as dumb shit like "genocide". So I don't know why you're telling someone to face reality when reality doesn't even agree with anything you say in the first place. </quote> The Supreme Court outright stated in Roe V Wade that the State has a compelling interest in protecting the life of a fetus in the third trimester. They do not agree with your interpretation which is why so many regulations on abortions exist today. You are the one who is not in touch with reality supporting abortions untill the moment of birth. </quote> But they agree with the topic which is all that matters. So what point are you making here? You're just looking for a user to be upset with or something? </quote> The point is that the Supreme Court did not rule on the consciousness of unborn babies at all. The only indication in their ruling they even considered the question was that they said that existing laws that protect "persons" did not have any evidence to fall under that definition legally at the time. That does not mean in any way that the Supreme Court favors your argument. If there were sufficient evidence brought before the court that a fetus is a person legally, then Roe V Wade would be overturned because that was the sole reason for their judgement at the time. </quote> Ya except for the whole "a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion". They said it had to be balanced by a states interest hence why it was decided on third trimesters. So once again you're wrong. Also the fetus being legally a human part is such a reach I'll just say you go on fighting that fight. If you someone get there we can discuss that more in depth. </quote> The protections under the 14th was only ruled on as part of the State having insufficient evidence that a fetus is legally a person and therefore did not have a greater interest in providing protection to it than what the 14th Ammendment affords.</quote> Yes, that was already mentioned in my post.</quote> Yeah and its irrelevant to the argument that the Supreme Court agrees with the logic that you're attempting to make. The argument you are attempting to make is that "fetuses" are not conscious life and should not be protected. But the Supreme Court has never even considered that issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 06/08/18 7:26:23 PM #144:	@Howl That's not actually the argument I made. I made the argument on privacy in due process taking precedence over state interests. To put it more simply this time the choice should be in the one birthing and raising the child. Something that's still supported by the SC as long as it's regulated to a certain extent, which it is. You're the one saying we need to change the SCs opinion. Something you haven't seemed to gather. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:902797863] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>@Howl That's not actually the argument I made. I made the argument on privacy in due process taking precedence over state interests. To put it more simply this time the choice should be in the one birthing and raising the child. Something that's still supported by the SC as long as it's regulated to a certain extent, which it is. You're the one saying we need to change the SCs opinion. Something you haven't seemed to gather.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 7:28:55 PM #145:	Zeeak4444 posted... That's not actually the argument I made. I made the argument on privacy in due process taking precedence over state interests. But they do not agree with that assessment hence them specifcally mentioning it on their ruling about third trimester protections and laws. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902797990] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote> That's not actually the argument I made. I made the argument on privacy in due process taking precedence over state interests. </quote> But they do not agree with that assessment hence them specifcally mentioning it on their ruling about third trimester protections and laws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 06/08/18 7:30:13 PM #146:	Howl posted... Zeeak4444 posted... That's not actually the argument I made. I made the argument on privacy in due process taking precedence over state interests. But they do not agree with that assessment hence them specifcally mentioning it on their ruling about third trimester protections and laws. I see you left out the part about being regulated to try and look like you're being smart. It didn't work but it was a valiant effort. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:902798065] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote> That's not actually the argument I made. I made the argument on privacy in due process taking precedence over state interests. </quote> But they do not agree with that assessment hence them specifcally mentioning it on their ruling about third trimester protections and laws.</quote> I see you left out the part about being regulated to try and look like you're being smart. It didn't work but it was a valiant effort.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 06/08/18 7:32:40 PM #147:	If down syndrome is an extra chromosome, can the extra one not be removed? --- https://imgur.com/OlAyuQb https://imgur.com/KnLuqux <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:902798189] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>If down syndrome is an extra chromosome, can the extra one not be removed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 06/08/18 7:37:00 PM #148:	Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Howl posted... -Unowninator- posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. You can't kill something that isn't alive. Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth? I personally don't support late ones like that, but I wouldn't have a problem with them being legal. They should call them something else though, like "super abortions" or something. Why don't you support them if you have no issue with them being legal? What's the difference? They're just a "fetus" right? I'm indifferent. Supporting would be "that should be legal!" or "yay that's legal! :D" My opinion is "meh. I don't care that that's illegal and I wouldn't care if it was legalized" or "meh. I don't care that this is legal and if it wasn't, I wouldn't care either." I'm fine with the abortion laws that exist now (except in shitty red states) --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:902798404] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>-Unowninator- posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> What is evil about abortion? You called it that. I'm asking how. </quote> It's the act of murdering an innocent victim. IDK how anyone can consider to be anything other than evil. </quote> You can't kill something that isn't alive. </quote> Then when exactly is it alive? Do you support abortions up until the moment of birth?</quote> I personally don't support late ones like that, but I wouldn't have a problem with them being legal. They should call them something else though, like "super abortions" or something.</quote> Why don't you support them if you have no issue with them being legal? What's the difference? They're just a "fetus" right?</quote> I'm indifferent. Supporting would be "that should be legal!" or "yay that's legal! :D" My opinion is "meh. I don't care that that's illegal and I wouldn't care if it was legalized" or "meh. I don't care that this is legal and if it wasn't, I wouldn't care either." I'm fine with the abortion laws that exist now (except in shitty red states)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 7:40:56 PM #149:	Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... Zeeak4444 posted... That's not actually the argument I made. I made the argument on privacy in due process taking precedence over state interests. But they do not agree with that assessment hence them specifcally mentioning it on their ruling about third trimester protections and laws. I see you left out the part about being regulated to try and look like you're being smart. It didn't work but it was a valiant effort. What difference does it make for your argument? Those protections afforded by the 14th Amendment do not extend indefinitley which means that the Supreme Court does not agree that it's a fundamental rule of law that supersedes the rights of a potentially conscious being, a subject the Supreme Court has not ruled on in any way. The only evidence of their opinion on the issue of privacy taking precedence over the interest of the state is contradictory to what your assertion is based on their opinion as stated about "regulated" laws providing protections to fetuses in late term. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902798560] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote> That's not actually the argument I made. I made the argument on privacy in due process taking precedence over state interests. </quote> But they do not agree with that assessment hence them specifcally mentioning it on their ruling about third trimester protections and laws. </quote> I see you left out the part about being regulated to try and look like you're being smart. It didn't work but it was a valiant effort.</quote> What difference does it make for your argument? Those protections afforded by the 14th Amendment do not extend indefinitley which means that the Supreme Court does not agree that it's a fundamental rule of law that supersedes the rights of a potentially conscious being, a subject the Supreme Court has not ruled on in any way. The only evidence of their opinion on the issue of privacy taking precedence over the interest of the state is contradictory to what your assertion is based on their opinion as stated about "regulated" laws providing protections to fetuses in late term.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 06/08/18 7:51:42 PM #150:	I lean more towards late term abortion being illegal unless there's a health risk to the woman. but if the government is going to force women to have babies they should be finding them homes. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:902799031] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>I lean more towards late term abortion being illegal unless there's a health risk to the woman. but if the government is going to force women to have babies they should be finding them homes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 06/08/18 7:59:59 PM #151:	Howl posted... FrenchCrunch posted... Howl posted... #SYA is pretty overtly people being giddy about it. no she isnt shes treating it with irreverence Shouting about something is not treating it it irreverance. man what <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:902799416] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> #SYA is pretty overtly people being giddy about it. </quote> no she isnt shes treating it with irreverence</quote> Shouting about something is not treating it it irreverance.</quote> man what</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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