Current Events > Professor McLogic (Jordan Peterson) is at it again

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One of my own rules for life is coffee after lunch, but who needs caffeine when you have Peterson? Hospitals may do more harm than good, solar power kills more people than nuclear if you have ears, he can prick them up. His sentences have the arc of well-thrown darts. I have to remind myself to stop admiring his words, and to keep interrogating his ideas.

Could 12 Rules for Life stand up to peer review? Have at it, man! Yeah, I was very careful about the claims in the book. OK, in a chapter on why people dont follow their prescriptions, his arguments centre on the guilt of Adam and Eve. Is that testable? The way you would test that is to find out whether people who are harsher on themselves would be less likely to take prescription medication. The probability thats true is pretty high. But, he concedes, the research hasnt been done.

Predictably, Peterson doubts climate change is man-made. His book is scathing about environmentalists, whom he accuses of wanting fewer humans on the planet. This, he says, causes students to suffer genuine declines in their mental health. Is there any evidence for that? One second, two seconds 10 seconds pass. No. Theres no hard evidence. He suggests the problem is an epidemiological matter: the instruments that people used to assess depression in the 1950s arent the same as the instruments now. So the point is more a hypothesis.
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Peterson sees himself as more of a traditionalist than a conservative. Yet he is abandoning traditional institutions. He exalts the meaning found in Bible stories but he no longer goes to church. I cant tolerate it. I find the ritualistic presentation of the ideas I dont know how to say it exactly I dont feel that the people who are presenting the stories are discussing them as if they believe that theyre true. Does he donate to charity? He gives to a kids charity in Toronto and to public television, but not on a massive scale.
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Its a shame, too, because I had wanted to ask Peterson about his claim that parents should hit their misbehaving children, and not just with a swat across the backside. Peer-reviewed articles suggest it does long-term harm. Id also like to know more about his eye-catching argument that social inequalities are part of the natural order, reflected in the serotonin levels of lobsters and humans. Interestingly, he never mentions in 12 Rules that he took anti-depressants to increase serotonin levels in his own brain. Perhaps serotonin isnt destiny?

I ask about his influence. He knows that context matters: in 2013, he co-wrote a study that found that a meditation session made people more liberal. These days he claims he is stopping angry young men from embracing extremism. But could he be encouraging his admirers to reinforce their prejudices, to build up steam? No, I dont think so . . . They never talk about politics to me, when they meet me.
Peterson jokes that prophets tend to meet a pretty dismal end and is afraid that his outspokenness will go too far that he will end up saying something that would do me in. But its hard to imagine what this could be. Peterson has already accused feminists who defend Muslim rights of an unconscious wish for brutal male domination, with no apparent ill-effect on book sales.

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I miss the days when I didn't know who Jordan Peterson was
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This guy is just saying everything the alt-right wants to hear, that's fair and balanced. /s
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If you think climate change exists why does it matter if you think it's man-made or not?
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Intro2Logic posted...

Predictably, Peterson doubts climate change is man-made. His book is scathing about environmentalists, whom he accuses of wanting fewer humans on the planet. This, he says, causes students to suffer genuine declines in their mental health.

Lmao

Damn_Underscore posted...

If you think climate change exists why does it matter if you think it's man-made or not?

If it's man-made we can un-make it.
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You just don't understand what he is saying.
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Antifar posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

If you think climate change exists why does it matter if you think it's man-made or not?

If it's man-made we can un-make it.

But what if it's not man-made? Or rather what if the part that is man-made is negligible?
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shockthemonkey posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

If you think climate change exists why does it matter if you think it's man-made or not?

Holy shit, no one is genuinely like this

Wrong. There are scientists who say that humans have little or no impact on climate change. And there is definitely a stigma against being a "denier" which hurts honest debate.

None of us here knows much about climate change besides the basics. I'm just asking questions.
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Hey look, Peterson pretending to know more than his academic studies should tell and him just talking out of his was, again.

Fuck this dude
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I don't think this guy is looking for honest debate, which is unfortunate.
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So race - that's the bloody thing with race. It's like - it's like you decide - ok, so let's say you turn in an essay and you get a pretty poor grade you know and you feel it's not the grade you think you deserved. now you;ve envountered an anomoly. You've come down from the trees and you're looking at a snake. The guy with the biggest stick will be pretty popular with the ladies, might i add because he's the guy that's figured out how to keep everyone safe. And you're sitting there looking at this guy, ok and you think to yourself, "that looks dangerous." And it bloody well is dangerous. Well you have a choice. And by the way the first monkey who learned he can hold a stick in a rain storm and make a fire stick, that guy was pretty popular with the ladies too as you can imagine. Well so you have a choice. You can drop out of class, hell, you can drop out of university, out of society, drop out of life. It's a slippery slop eh. And believe me, that is not. A route. Youwant. To go down. If you follow it all the way down, you can extrapolate the results of a bad grade all the way to genocide. And that's no joke.

iClockwork posted...

So race - that's the bloody thing with race. It's like - it's like you decide - ok, so let's say you turn in an essay and you get a pretty poor grade you know and you feel it's not the grade you think you deserved. now you;ve envountered an anomoly. You've come down from the trees and you're looking at a snake. The guy with the biggest stick will be pretty popular with the ladies, might i add because he's the guy that's figured out how to keep everyone safe. And you're sitting there looking at this guy, ok and you think to yourself, "that looks dangerous." And it bloody well is dangerous. Well you have a choice. And by the way the first monkey who learned he can hold a stick in a rain storm and make a fire stick, that guy was pretty popular with the ladies too as you can imagine. Well so you have a choice. You can drop out of class, hell, you can drop out of university, out of society, drop out of life. It's a slippery slop eh. And believe me, that is not. A route. Youwant. To go down. If you follow it all the way down, you can extrapolate the results of a bad grade all the way to genocide. And that's no joke.

Loool
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