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WilburMercer 05/30/18 5:22:01 AM #1: |
But if you call someone else that it's racism?
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A_Good_Boy 05/30/18 5:24:43 AM #2: |
Shut up Hoth
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metralo 05/30/18 5:25:31 AM #3: |
shut the fuck up
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Cal12 05/30/18 5:26:11 AM #4: |
Calling Donald Trump an ape over his attitude, intelligence and demeanor is not the same as calling a black person an ape as a racially motivated insult. This shouldnt even be a question cause you already knew the answer.
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CarlGrimes 05/30/18 5:29:59 AM #5: |
We are all apes! How is that hard to understand? Black people are apes, white people are apes, Asian people are apes, Native people are apes. We are all part of the Great Ape family.
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Slip-N-Slide 05/30/18 5:36:53 AM #6: |
Making orangutan jokes about Trump isn't the same at all. For starters you're mocking his choice to be an orange man to begin with, nobody made him be orange nor is he genetically orange. And when he's literally displaying the intelligence or at least verbal intelligence of one it's more of just an insult calling him as an individual dumb.
Comparing black people to monkeys/apes has historic connotations behind it to dehumanize and berate the entire race. Nobody is trying to dehumanize Trump by saying that, they're just saying he chooses to look stupid and is an actual legitimate idiot. Not mocking him because of his race or because they simply disagree but can understand his point of view is just different. When you have a man who looks dumb as shit by choice, and contradicts himself every other day, it's easy to call them stupid and it mean nothing but you're calling that person stupid, having no racial connotations or anything. And even then it's mostly other white people saying it about another white man, while comparing black people to apes has been almost exclusively done by non black people to dehumanize them or compare them to animals both physically and intellectually based on nothing but race. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WilburMercer 05/30/18 6:01:32 AM #7: |
I think that's actually more racist. If you call a white person an ape 'oh no it's about behavior!'. If you call a black person an ape 'omg it's racist because you say they look like apes'. Wait what? No, don't project your own racist views onto others.
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WilliamPorygon 05/30/18 6:02:32 AM #8: |
Because Donald Trump is white.
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ColdOne666 05/30/18 6:32:44 AM #10: |
Liberals are hypocrites, water is wet etc.
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Solar_Crimson 05/30/18 12:31:14 PM #11: |
ColdOne666 posted...
Liberals are hypocrites, water is wet etc. And the Right can't seem to grasp why it's such a social faux pas to compare Black people to apes. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 05/30/18 12:31:58 PM #12: |
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Galcian 05/30/18 12:32:24 PM #13: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
ColdOne666 posted...Liberals are hypocrites, water is wet etc. Valerie Jarrett is Iranian though --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/30/18 12:33:23 PM #14: |
I'll take Historical Context for 500, Alex
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FairyLeviathan 05/30/18 12:33:45 PM #15: |
Calling Donald Trump an ape over his attitude, intelligence and demeanor is not the same as calling a black person an ape as a racially motivated insult. What if you are just calling a black person an ape over their attitude, intelligence and demeanor? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 05/30/18 12:33:54 PM #16: |
Galcian posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...ColdOne666 posted...Liberals are hypocrites, water is wet etc. She's Black. Both of her parents are African American. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FairyLeviathan 05/30/18 12:35:11 PM #17: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
ColdOne666 posted...Liberals are hypocrites, water is wet etc. Ideally we could all just be civil and not compare anyone to apes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 05/30/18 12:35:31 PM #18: |
Whose alt is this
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JE19426 05/30/18 12:35:52 PM #19: |
Galcian posted...
Valerie Jarrett is Iranian though Are you trying to argue that Iranian's can't be black? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 05/30/18 12:37:07 PM #21: |
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context is conservative kryptonite Just a liberal conspiracy. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Galcian 05/30/18 12:37:29 PM #22: |
JE19426 posted...
Galcian posted...Valerie Jarrett is Iranian though No I thought her ethnicity was Iranian --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 05/30/18 12:37:38 PM #23: |
Cal12 posted...
Calling Donald Trump an ape over his attitude, intelligence and demeanor is not the same as calling a black person an ape as a racially motivated insult. This shouldnt even be a question cause you already knew the answer. So calling someone an ape because of their behavior is fine? Got it. So then why was it such a problem to refer to members of a gang that engage in human trafficking and that butchers people with machetes as "animals". --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 05/30/18 12:37:49 PM #24: |
Galcian posted...
No I thought her ethnicity was Iranian Ok, no worries. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 05/30/18 12:37:59 PM #25: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
Galcian posted...Solar_Crimson posted...ColdOne666 posted...Liberals are hypocrites, water is wet etc. Roseanne is now claiming that she thought Valerie was white. If she is being honest, then that changes the nature of the comparison. But there's still the "Muslim Brotherhood" thingy she has to explain. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/30/18 12:44:23 PM #26: |
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Roseanne is now claiming that she thought Valerie was white. If she is being honest, then that changes the nature of the comparison. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 05/30/18 12:45:50 PM #27: |
Ammonitida posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...Galcian posted...Solar_Crimson posted...ColdOne666 posted...Liberals are hypocrites, water is wet etc. Why? The Muslim Brotherhood is not all Muslims, they're a specific group of extremists. Lots of Muslims resent the Muslim Brotherhood. With how the left has used the term "Nazi" to insult everyone they disagree with for the last 2-3 years, why is Roseanne using the Muslim Brotherhood as means to insult a problem? --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wah_wah_wah 05/30/18 12:49:55 PM #28: |
Any time you argue against the feelings of others, you're automatically a loser
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Ammonitida 05/30/18 12:50:09 PM #29: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
Ammonitida posted...Solar_Crimson posted...Galcian posted...Solar_Crimson posted...ColdOne666 posted...Liberals are hypocrites, water is wet etc. She's from Iran which is predominately Muslim. If she was aware of this and assumed she was Muslim too, then it's reasonable to suspect that she was conflating all Muslims with extremists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Banjo2553 05/30/18 12:53:22 PM #30: |
FairyLeviathan posted...
Calling Donald Trump an ape over his attitude, intelligence and demeanor is not the same as calling a black person an ape as a racially motivated insult. Unfortunately you can't do that if they're the wrong skin color. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 05/30/18 1:04:16 PM #31: |
You can call Trump an animal however you can not call murders and rapist animals.
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LinkAndEpona 05/30/18 1:05:12 PM #32: |
Hypocrisy
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creativerealms 05/30/18 1:07:01 PM #33: |
Well he is an ape. We are all apes. However that's not the same thing as using ape as an insult. That is wrong and I wouldn't do it.
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TES_Nut 05/30/18 1:08:42 PM #34: |
26_Sandman_39 posted...
2018 and were still doing the donald is orange meme 2018 and he's still orange. Meme checks out. --- The ending of the word is ALMSIVI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wah_wah_wah 05/30/18 1:10:03 PM #35: |
And I think you can get in trouble for calling Trump names too. But they don't have that added context of being a racial slur in the past. Maybe Roseanne didn't intend for the comment to be racist, but that doesn't mean she wasn't thoughtless in a way that is no different from actual racism.
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creativerealms 05/30/18 1:10:11 PM #36: |
MedzXVIII posted...
You can call Trump an animal however you can not call murders and rapist animals. Joking and meaning seriously are not the same thing. Man how dense can people be? When people jokingly call him an animal they are not dehumanizing him to make it easier to treat him worse. It's not the same thing. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slip-N-Slide 05/30/18 5:42:14 PM #37: |
WilburMercer posted...
I think that's actually more racist. If you call a white person an ape 'oh no it's about behavior!'. If you call a black person an ape 'omg it's racist because you say they look like apes'. Wait what? No, don't project your own racist views onto others. It's not people projecting their own racist views, it's because there's a massive historical context to comparing blacks to apes/monkeys as a means of dehumanizing them or treating them as less than human. No such thing exists for white people, and when people call him an orangutan it has nothing to do with him being white, it's because he's a dumb ass and he's orange. The insult is being projected to him on any racial level. Historical context matters, it's like trying to argue the n word and "honky" are equal. You can try to argue it all you want, but they'll never be remotely the same thing. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 05/30/18 5:54:59 PM #38: |
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Whose alt is this Probably Hoth. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CarlGrimes 05/30/18 7:42:18 PM #39: |
Slip-N-Slide posted...
Historical context matters, it's like trying to argue the n word and "honky" are equal. You can try to argue it all you want, but they'll never be remotely the same thing. So historical context matters but regular context does not? Because the context of a black person calling a white person a honky is steeped in racism too. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EverDownward 05/30/18 7:43:44 PM #40: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Shut up Hoth metralo posted... shut the fuck up what compelling arguments --- "And you can't tell me what my spirit tells me isn't true, can you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iamintents 05/30/18 7:43:55 PM #41: |
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A_Good_Boy 05/30/18 8:08:34 PM #42: |
Shut the fuck up, EverDownward.
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EverDownward 05/30/18 8:16:47 PM #43: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Shut the fuck up, EverDownward. riveting --- "And you can't tell me what my spirit tells me isn't true, can you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 05/30/18 11:56:52 PM #44: |
EverDownward posted...
a solid shut the fuck up is all that's needed for a topic this fucking stupid --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelicTouch99 05/31/18 12:14:03 AM #45: |
Slip-N-Slide posted...
Making orangutan jokes about Trump isn't the same at all. For starters you're mocking his choice to be an orange man to begin with, nobody made him be orange nor is he genetically orange. And when he's literally displaying the intelligence or at least verbal intelligence of one it's more of just an insult calling him as an individual dumb. You put wayyy too much effort into this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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