Current Events > ICE are Gestapo and we are witnessing the attempted creation of an ethnostate

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butthole666
05/27/18 9:27:23 PM
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Roshon
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mustachedmystic
05/27/18 9:32:27 PM
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Much like Trump's attempts not to look, sound, and act like a complete idiot, this will end in abject failure. No offense to @Complete_Idi0t.
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gunplagirl
05/27/18 9:32:52 PM
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While basically true, this is CE and they'll blame the immigrants first, then Obama, then immigrant nations in that order.
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Sayoria
05/27/18 9:34:23 PM
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Hitler was smart in his approach. Trump is not.
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 9:36:51 PM
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The trafficking stuff and "disappeared" migrant stuff is super fucking shady as hell
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Lorenzo_2003
05/27/18 9:38:15 PM
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What kind of ethnostate allows for millions of legal citizens who comprise a variety of different ethnic backgrounds, languages, religions and other forms of culture?
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Kazi1212
05/27/18 9:38:28 PM
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lol I think making hyperbolic statements is TCs gimmick
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Flintgrandad
05/27/18 9:54:22 PM
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MorbidFaithless
05/27/18 9:54:30 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
What kind of ethnostate allows for millions of legal citizens who comprise a variety of different ethnic backgrounds, languages, religions and other forms of culture?

An ethnostate in progress. Do you think the holocaust started with concentration camps?
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TheRealDill2000
05/27/18 9:54:48 PM
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Perhaps the undocumented immigrants should stop crossing over. They wouldn't have issues with ICE then.
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 9:58:11 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
Perhaps the undocumented immigrants should stop crossing over. They wouldn't have issues with ICE then.

I mean sure, but I don't think crossing a line on a map warrants this sort of treatment
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SweetieBelle462
05/27/18 10:07:33 PM
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Yea sure, just stop coming here illegally.
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MacDaMurderer
05/27/18 10:08:31 PM
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Has ICE not been doing this the whole time? Just wondering.
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TheRealDill2000
05/27/18 10:13:26 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
Perhaps the undocumented immigrants should stop crossing over. They wouldn't have issues with ICE then.

I mean sure, but I don't think crossing a line on a map warrants this sort of treatment

There's more to this than a line on the map. Borders exist for a reason.

Besides, I'm pretty sure that ICE gained most of its power and operating procedures during the Obama years. If you want to complain about that organization, you should be complaining about him.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/27/18 10:14:06 PM
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Stop fucking illegally coming/staying here. Wont be an issue.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/27/18 10:19:34 PM
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There's nothing wrong with enforcing the law. Migration laws are not unjust. (Not defending any particular incident btw)
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ScazarMeltex
05/27/18 10:26:50 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Stop fucking illegally coming/staying here. Wont be an issue.

Stop being a jew in nazi germany then you won't get tossed in a camp.
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ColdOne666
05/27/18 10:27:17 PM
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Wouldn't happen if they didn't come here illegally in the first place. Its there own fault.
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Pillowpantz
05/27/18 10:28:39 PM
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I didn't realize the Gestapo ensured that Jews were safely escorted back to Israel.
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Master_Bass
05/27/18 10:28:57 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
There's more to this than a line on the map. Borders exist for a reason.

Please elaborate on this reason.
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butthole666
05/27/18 10:30:49 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
There's nothing wrong with enforcing the law. Migration laws are not unjust. (Not defending any particular incident btw)

What is just about needless separation of familes

What is just about abusing children for entertainment

What is just about the destruction of records

What is just about human trafficking

What is just about the leader of a nation scapegoating the victims of human rights violations as "animals" to avoid scrutiny of their treatment

What is just about the creation of concentration camps for people who "should just be sent back"

What is just about any of this flagrant abuse, and the erasure thereof?
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butthole666
05/27/18 10:32:13 PM
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I didn't realize the Gestapo ensured that Jews were safely escorted back to Israel.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/hhs-official-says-agency-lost-track-of-nearly-1500-unaccompanied-minors/
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 10:33:00 PM
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What we're seeing from the folks defending this is the result of the creepy rhetoric coming from Trump and his ilk over the last few years. "Migrant invasion, illegal alien", that sort of thing
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butthole666
05/27/18 10:33:52 PM
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Pillowpantz
05/27/18 10:34:03 PM
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butthole666 posted...
Pillowpantz posted...
I didn't realize the Gestapo ensured that Jews were safely escorted back to Israel.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/hhs-official-says-agency-lost-track-of-nearly-1500-unaccompanied-minors/


And the Gestapo equivalent of this is.... ???
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butthole666
05/27/18 10:35:51 PM
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Pillowpantz posted...
butthole666 posted...
Pillowpantz posted...
I didn't realize the Gestapo ensured that Jews were safely escorted back to Israel.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/hhs-official-says-agency-lost-track-of-nearly-1500-unaccompanied-minors/


And the Gestapo equivalent of this is.... ???

Your implication that ICE is safely escorting people back (or, well, anywhere) is wrong.

The Gestapo famously "disappeared" countless families and political opponents; both are things happening in America, now.
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averagejoel
05/27/18 10:36:15 PM
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Pillowpantz posted...
I didn't realize the Gestapo ensured that Jews were safely escorted back to Israel.

"Israel" was founded about 2.5 years after World War 2 ended
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Pillowpantz
05/27/18 10:36:47 PM
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butthole666 posted...
Pillowpantz posted...
butthole666 posted...
Pillowpantz posted...
I didn't realize the Gestapo ensured that Jews were safely escorted back to Israel.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/hhs-official-says-agency-lost-track-of-nearly-1500-unaccompanied-minors/


And the Gestapo equivalent of this is.... ???

Your implication that ICE is safely escorting people back (or, well, anywhere) is wrong.


If you're complaining that ICE isn't deporting illegal immigrants fast enough, I'd agree, but that's the fault of obstructionist Democrats.
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butthole666
05/27/18 10:38:50 PM
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Pull up on your main, bruh bruh.
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Lorenzo_2003
05/27/18 10:38:52 PM
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MorbidFaithless posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
What kind of ethnostate allows for millions of legal citizens who comprise a variety of different ethnic backgrounds, languages, religions and other forms of culture?

An ethnostate in progress. Do you think the holocaust started with concentration camps?


Honestly, Im having a hard time taking people seriously if they use words like Gestapo, concentration camp or Holocaust. Those words do not apply to the vast majority of worldwide law enforcement and immigration procedures, let alone what the US does, as flawed as it might be. Dont equate it to Nazi Germany. Its embarassing.
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averagejoel
05/27/18 10:41:22 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
What kind of ethnostate allows for millions of legal citizens who comprise a variety of different ethnic backgrounds, languages, religions and other forms of culture?

An ethnostate in progress. Do you think the holocaust started with concentration camps?


Honestly, Im having a hard time taking people seriously if they use words like Gestapo, concentration camp or Holocaust. Those words do not apply to the vast majority of worldwide law enforcement and immigration procedures, let alone what the US does, as flawed as it might be. Dont equate it to Nazi Germany. Its embarassing.

what's embarrassing is the astounding lack of historical knowledge you have on this subject.

read up on how American racism influenced Hitler. then read up on how Nazi Germany influenced the US.
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Paragon21XX
05/27/18 10:42:04 PM
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*yawns*
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SGT_Conti
05/27/18 10:44:44 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
What we're seeing from the folks defending this is the result of the creepy rhetoric coming from Trump and his ilk over the last few years. "Migrant invasion, illegal alien", that sort of thing

That's why I prefer to avoid dehumanizing language.
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Darmik
05/27/18 10:45:35 PM
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I don't know how anyone can defend separating children from their families and then losing them.

Like even if you want them out of the country how could you possibly defend that?
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 10:47:15 PM
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SGT_Conti posted...
That's why I prefer to avoid dehumanizing language.

Mhm it's very shitty. When one falls into that sort of thing they either end up actively defending it like some ITT

Paragon21XX posted...
*yawns*

or dismissing it outright like this guy
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TheRealDill2000
05/27/18 10:48:59 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
There's more to this than a line on the map. Borders exist for a reason.

Please elaborate on this reason.

They separate us from the ****hole countries
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Pillowpantz
05/27/18 10:49:20 PM
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Dash_Harber
05/27/18 10:49:39 PM
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Sayoria posted...
Hitler was smart in his approach. Trump is not.


I'd say lucky. He publicly broadcasted his intentions, but the recent war meant that people were willing to believe his blame game locally and foreigners didn't really take him seriously until he had already secured the state.
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Roshon
05/27/18 10:50:40 PM
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Also those weird bracelets theyre making them wear.

People have already been hiding their friends, neighbors, etc. There are especially churches who have been helping these undocumented immigrants out.

Its very scary, and if you dont see the problem here, if you dont see the comparison to horrific history, youre willfully blind.
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TheRealDill2000
05/27/18 10:59:00 PM
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Sayoria posted...
Hitler was smart in his approach. Trump is not.

Why would you compare the leader of the free world to Hitler? Trump has been a unifying presence for the world. He has helped to improve our ties with Russia, China, and North Korea. What other figures have accomplishments that even come close?
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Bloodychess
05/27/18 11:02:04 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
2 wrongs dont make a right, how fucking old are you that you cant understand this

Enforcing a basic law that literally every other country has is not a wrong, stop trolling
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 11:02:44 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
Enforcing a basic law that literally every other country has is not a wrong, stop trolling

this isn't just "enforcing a basic law" this is actually kinda fucked up
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/27/18 11:03:28 PM
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I miss the days when idiotic and unwarranted comparisons to Nazis would get people modded.
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