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clearaflagrantj
05/27/18 3:27:58 PM
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It's funny how the nuanced works of a self admitted traditional liberal (yet more aptly a centrist) are twisted and bastardized by the left and right alike. It's almost as if if you're not on the team you are the demon strawman of the opposition.

I feel bad for Peterson, he openly worries about people misinterpreting his message yet that is precisely what happened in the wake of his new found fame. Reduced to a tool by people dumber than him.

Oh well at least he's fucking loaded now.
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Comfy_Pillow
05/27/18 3:29:33 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
It's almost as if if you're not on the team you are the demon strawman of the opposition.


this is why America has been so fucked these past couple years. All your opinions have to be in line with your group otherwise fuck you!
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The Great Muta 22
05/27/18 3:31:44 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
I feel bad for Peterson, he openly worries about people misinterpreting his message yet that is precisely what happened in the wake of his new found fame. Reduced to a tool by people dumber than him.


Bullshit, he knows exactly what he is doing and is fanning the flames. He wouldn't present himself as a victimized martyr as often as he does if he actually cared about this.
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clearaflagrantj
05/27/18 3:34:44 PM
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Comfy_Pillow posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
It's almost as if if you're not on the team you are the demon strawman of the opposition.


this is why America has been so fucked these past couple years. All your opinions have to be in line with your group otherwise fuck you!

Rule 9: Assume that the person you are listening to might know something you don't.

Dude spends like 40 pages shitting on people for not hearing out the opppsition and engaging in a balanced argument to seek a common truth together.

Kanye West is absolutely stirring shit up for the sake of publicity leading up to his album releases, but he has a point behind his words, that being black people shouldn't feel compelled to act any way from group identity, that the knee-jerk reaction against his message is in fact wrong.
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 3:35:33 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
I feel bad for Peterson, he openly worries about people misinterpreting his message

I'd feel a lot worse if he weren't courting and actively encouraging that though
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GhettoFlip
05/27/18 3:36:09 PM
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look another white guy enthralled by Peterson
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COVxy
05/27/18 3:37:51 PM
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Hope you feel better about yourself. I mean, you could have picked up a 100 page version of it from 1990 authored by Pastor Tom, but to each their own.
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clearaflagrantj
05/27/18 3:38:01 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Bullshit, he knows exactly what he is doing and is fanning the flames. He wouldn't present himself as a victimized martyr as often as he does if he actually cared about this.


He wouldn't address specific questions with precise words if that were the case. His views have a foundation in his personal philosophy, and he has openly denounced the radical left and the radical right.

What exactly are you referring to? Don't mistake his frankness against leftist academia with some sort of secret neo-nazi alt right agenda.
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clearaflagrantj
05/27/18 3:41:20 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
I feel bad for Peterson, he openly worries about people misinterpreting his message

I'd feel a lot worse if he weren't courting and actively encouraging that though

Radical leftists: "Cis white males oppress women/minorities/lgbt through patriarchy, they must be stopped, kill all white men"

Peterson: "I disagree, white men have a lot to offer society and it's not far to unjustly demonize them"

White men: "Wow I like this guy"

Radical Leftists: "WOW YOU'RE ALL NAZIS THEN"

Exhibit A:

GhettoFlip posted...
look another white guy enthralled by Peterson
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Webmaster4531
05/27/18 3:50:11 PM
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Jordan Peterson in a nutshell.

Blah blah both sides blah blah blah college campuses blah blah blah single mothers.
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 3:52:45 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
kill all white men

who the hell is seriously saying this

this is another thing about peterson and his supporters that i detest. hyperbole to the max
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thrashmetal14
05/27/18 3:55:10 PM
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GhettoFlip posted...
look another white guy enthralled by Peterson


The first person who ever mentioned JP to me irl was a Mexican dude.
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clearaflagrantj
05/27/18 3:55:31 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
kill all white men

who the hell is seriously saying this

this is another thing about peterson and his supporters that i detest. hyperbole to the max

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SU7EPGLRYc" data-time="
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Webmaster4531
05/27/18 4:00:42 PM
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If Lena Dunham said it then that means white genocide is real!

I need to listen to monotone boring Dishwater Peterson talk in circles endlessly.
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 4:02:25 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
If Lena Dunham said it then that means white genocide is real!

Well shit if some random comedian(?) I've barely heard of said it then it must be widespread
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clearaflagrantj
05/27/18 4:06:35 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
If Lena Dunham said it then that means white genocide is real!

Well shit if some random comedian(?) I've barely heard of said it then it must be widespread

The left rallies behind actots, comedians, and political figures that openly lambaste white men with zero repercussion. We're acceptable targets because we created this matrix simulation of the white patriarchy.
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Webmaster4531
05/27/18 4:09:53 PM
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Boo hoo. Meanwhile corruption is legal.
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clearaflagrantj
05/27/18 4:11:52 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Boo hoo. Meanwhile corruption is legal.

Elaborate please
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Webmaster4531
05/27/18 4:14:28 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Boo hoo. Meanwhile corruption is legal.

Elaborate please

Corruption

1. dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 4:15:15 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
openly lambaste

I mean there's Lena Dunham, who I've barely heard of.

Who else?

I'm pretty political and follow a lot of political figures and really haven't seen any of what you're talking about
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The Great Muta 22
05/27/18 4:17:52 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
If Lena Dunham said it then that means white genocide is real!

Well shit if some random comedian(?) I've barely heard of said it then it must be widespread

The left rallies behind actots, comedians, and political figures that openly lambaste white men with zero repercussion. We're acceptable targets because we created this matrix simulation of the white patriarchy.


Get off Twitter
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Bio1590
05/27/18 4:21:09 PM
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Literally no one would care about Peterson if he wasn't telling them exactly what they wanted to hear to support their beliefs.
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 4:21:32 PM
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Just tossing this out there

As a heterosexual relatively affluent white male I've never in my life felt oppressed or seriously believed that anyone of note wanted to kill me to the point where I felt afraid.
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Howl
05/27/18 4:24:24 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Just tossing this out there

As a heterosexual relatively affluent white male I've never in my life felt oppressed or seriously believed that anyone of note wanted to kill me to the point where I felt afraid.


The fact that you felt the need to use 5 qualifiers to describe yourself tells me that you believe identity is more important than substance in an argument.
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 4:25:55 PM
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Howl posted...
The fact that you felt the need to use 5 qualifiers to describe yourself tells me that you believe identity is more important

We're talking about identity though

As my identity corresponds with the one being talked about I felt it was pertinent
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Webmaster4531
05/27/18 4:26:12 PM
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Howl posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Just tossing this out there

As a heterosexual relatively affluent white male I've never in my life felt oppressed or seriously believed that anyone of note wanted to kill me to the point where I felt afraid.


The fact that you felt the need to use 5 qualifiers to describe yourself tells me that you believe identity is more important than substance in an argument.

What is a non-sequitur ad hominem, Alex.
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The Great Muta 22
05/27/18 4:28:08 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Literally no one would care about Peterson if he wasn't telling them exactly what they wanted to hear to support their beliefs.


Idk, his AMA on Reddit did have him getting a mass downvote when he claimed Nazism was an atheist doctrine.
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Howl
05/27/18 4:29:23 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Howl posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Just tossing this out there

As a heterosexual relatively affluent white male I've never in my life felt oppressed or seriously believed that anyone of note wanted to kill me to the point where I felt afraid.


The fact that you felt the need to use 5 qualifiers to describe yourself tells me that you believe identity is more important than substance in an argument.

What is a non-sequitur ad hominem, Alex.


Him describing his identity was entirely irrelevant to the topic. The rest of his post was just anecdotal evidence based off of his irrelevant identity.
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Antifar
05/27/18 4:30:11 PM
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Howl posted...
Him describing his identity was entirely irrelevant to the topic.

He was responding to the claim that people want to kill white men
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Bio1590
05/27/18 4:32:19 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Literally no one would care about Peterson if he wasn't telling them exactly what they wanted to hear to support their beliefs.


Idk, his AMA on Reddit did have him getting a mass downvote when he claimed Nazism was an atheist doctrine.

That AMA was just a shitshow overall
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Howl
05/27/18 4:32:20 PM
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Antifar posted...
Howl posted...
Him describing his identity was entirely irrelevant to the topic.

He was responding to the claim that people want to kill white men


It's still irrelevant. An actual argument would be "there are in fact no people attempting to kill all white men." What he posted wasn't a refutation of that claim at all.
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Intro2Logic
05/27/18 4:32:47 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Literally no one would care about Peterson if he wasn't telling them exactly what they wanted to hear to support their beliefs.

Basically this. He tells the failsons of the world that no, the problems they face are actually the result of "postmodernism" (a term whose meaning he plays fast and loose with, and which his followers typically understand to mean "SJWs"), and that their rightful place is indeed at the top of the food chain.

Anyways
https://imgur.com/wtTcA7Y
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Doom_Art
05/27/18 4:34:53 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
https://imgur.com/wtTcA7Y

Include a picture of Dr. Peterson with every post, please.


Y I K E S
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Webmaster4531
05/27/18 4:34:56 PM
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Howl posted...
Antifar posted...
Howl posted...
Him describing his identity was entirely irrelevant to the topic.

He was responding to the claim that people want to kill white men


It's still irrelevant. An actual argument would be "there are in fact no people attempting to kill all white men." What he posted wasn't a refutation of that claim at all.

He said he was just throwing it out there.
clearaflagrantj said...
White 6 times. Plus a video about what Lena said about white males.

Before that.
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