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BlackHorse6969
05/26/18 5:24:24 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
to all the white knights defending the bimbos, you are being fooled. if there really were a case of sexual harassment, these bimbos would have filed a complaint against Mr. Morgan immediately after the events took place. The fact that they waited months to years to speak up about it over SOCIAL MEDIA indicates that they are lying and are seeking attention or money

You do know all the legitimate cases from Me Too are also months to years old, right?

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nicklebro
05/26/18 5:25:04 PM
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Axiom posted...

Your equating sexual harassment to normal sexual activity is really disturbing and quite illuminating as to why you think his behavior is ok

Normal sexual activity and sexual harassment can be the exact same action, it just depends on what the 2nd party feels about it. And if that second party doesn't communicate that they feel uncomfortable, then they are in fact communicating the opposite.
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weekoldhotdog
05/26/18 5:25:58 PM
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Who posted?
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Axiom
05/26/18 5:27:00 PM
#55:


nicklebro posted...
Axiom posted...

Your equating sexual harassment to normal sexual activity is really disturbing and quite illuminating as to why you think his behavior is ok

Normal sexual activity and sexual harassment can be the exact same action, it just depends on what the 2nd party feels about it. And if that second party doesn't communicate that they feel uncomfortable, then they are in fact communicating the opposite.

So by your logic a girl being raped who stays completely silent is actually consenting to it. Do you see how fucked up you sound right now
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BlackHorse6969
05/26/18 5:28:04 PM
#56:


hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
to all the white knights defending the bimbos, you are being fooled. if there really were a case of sexual harassment, these bimbos would have filed a complaint against Mr. Morgan immediately after the events took place. The fact that they waited months to years to speak up about it over SOCIAL MEDIA indicates that they are lying and are seeking attention or money


Assuming people are lying bimbos is just the opposite extreme of assuming everyone accused is definitely a rapist.

no. you are equating sexual misconduct with rape. they are not equivalent. sexual misconduct is not sexual harassment. Freeman might have made a few sexual innuendo jokes, but he is no sexual harasser. these bimbos are exaggerating what he said or did to get attention/money
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Skye Reynolds
05/26/18 5:28:28 PM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Eight women have accused him?

Man, that kills me. :(


They are more attention seeking tramps than actual women, to be fair.


Not at that number. One or two accusers, sure, but you're not going to find eight people willing to sully the name of a good person for 15 minutes of fame.
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hockeybub89
05/26/18 5:29:05 PM
#58:


BlackHorse6969 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
to all the white knights defending the bimbos, you are being fooled. if there really were a case of sexual harassment, these bimbos would have filed a complaint against Mr. Morgan immediately after the events took place. The fact that they waited months to years to speak up about it over SOCIAL MEDIA indicates that they are lying and are seeking attention or money

You do know all the legitimate cases from Me Too are also months to years old, right?

irrelevant to the case at hand

You said that waiting proves they are lying bimbos. But some men and women waited a long time and aren't liars. In fact, most of these reports have been legitimate and the debate seems to be whether or not all these things various celebrities have done should be considered sexual assault/harassment.

I don't know where the assumption has come from that the average sex crime or sexual harassment report is fabricated, but it isn't from reality.
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nicklebro
05/26/18 5:29:27 PM
#59:


Axiom posted...
nicklebro posted...
Axiom posted...

Your equating sexual harassment to normal sexual activity is really disturbing and quite illuminating as to why you think his behavior is ok

Normal sexual activity and sexual harassment can be the exact same action, it just depends on what the 2nd party feels about it. And if that second party doesn't communicate that they feel uncomfortable, then they are in fact communicating the opposite.

So by your logic a girl being raped who stays completely silent is actually consenting to it. Do you see how fucked up you sound right now

Did I mention anything about consent? No. And you can communicate things silently, as women being raped all do (unless there unconscious)
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weekoldhotdog
05/26/18 5:30:11 PM
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I'm going to put axiom on ignore just because his ''holier than thou'' attitude sucks balls.
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Crepes
05/26/18 5:31:46 PM
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Norms change. What was socially acceptable decades ago is now looked down on. For good reason. That doesn't mean we need to retrospectively punish people for doing what was considered ok back then.
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hockeybub89
05/26/18 5:32:28 PM
#62:


BlackHorse6969 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
to all the white knights defending the bimbos, you are being fooled. if there really were a case of sexual harassment, these bimbos would have filed a complaint against Mr. Morgan immediately after the events took place. The fact that they waited months to years to speak up about it over SOCIAL MEDIA indicates that they are lying and are seeking attention or money


Assuming people are lying bimbos is just the opposite extreme of assuming everyone accused is definitely a rapist.

no. you are equating sexual misconduct with rape. they are not equivalent. sexual misconduct is not sexual harassment. Freeman might have made a few sexual innuendo jokes, but he is no sexual harasser. these bimbos are exaggerating what he said or did to get attention/money

If you inappropriately touch your female co-workers or regularly make lewd comments to them, you have likely breached the sexual harassment code.

We're so anti-feminist that we're defending behavior that would get Joe Schmo fired.
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BlackHorse6969
05/26/18 5:32:40 PM
#63:


hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
to all the white knights defending the bimbos, you are being fooled. if there really were a case of sexual harassment, these bimbos would have filed a complaint against Mr. Morgan immediately after the events took place. The fact that they waited months to years to speak up about it over SOCIAL MEDIA indicates that they are lying and are seeking attention or money

You do know all the legitimate cases from Me Too are also months to years old, right?

irrelevant to the case at hand

You said that waiting proves they are lying bimbos. But some men and women waited a long time and aren't liars. In fact, most of these reports have been legitimate and the debate seems to be whether or not all these things various celebrities have done should be considered sexual assault/harassment.

I don't know where the assumption has come from that the average sex crime or sexual harassment report is fabricated, but it isn't from reality.

the metoo movement had actual rape cases in which the accusers were subjected to sexual acts by people like Weinstein. Freeman's case is more about his jokes being taken the wrong way. If these bimbos didnt like what he said or did, they could have easily filed a complaint. Freeman did not blackmail or intimidate these bimbos into keeping silent like the metoo movement. These bimbos had nothing to lose by speaking up right away
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hockeybub89
05/26/18 5:33:16 PM
#64:


Crepes posted...
Norms change. What was socially acceptable decades ago is now looked down on. For good reason. That doesn't mean we need to retrospectively punish people for doing what was considered ok back then.

Morgan Freeman accusations are not decades old.
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Axiom
05/26/18 5:34:21 PM
#66:


nicklebro posted...
Axiom posted...
nicklebro posted...
Axiom posted...

Your equating sexual harassment to normal sexual activity is really disturbing and quite illuminating as to why you think his behavior is ok

Normal sexual activity and sexual harassment can be the exact same action, it just depends on what the 2nd party feels about it. And if that second party doesn't communicate that they feel uncomfortable, then they are in fact communicating the opposite.

So by your logic a girl being raped who stays completely silent is actually consenting to it. Do you see how fucked up you sound right now

Did I mention anything about consent? No. And you can communicate things silently, as women being raped all do (unless there unconscious)

You say its not sexual harassment because they didn't "communicate" that they are uncomfortable. That's literally just saying because they didn't say anything (To a big star that could have their jobs at anytime mind you) that they made it ok. It the same as saying because a rape victim was too tramautized/scared/whatever to say anything she consented

Hell even Arkin told him to knock it off
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BlackHorse6969
05/26/18 5:34:31 PM
#67:


hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
to all the white knights defending the bimbos, you are being fooled. if there really were a case of sexual harassment, these bimbos would have filed a complaint against Mr. Morgan immediately after the events took place. The fact that they waited months to years to speak up about it over SOCIAL MEDIA indicates that they are lying and are seeking attention or money


Assuming people are lying bimbos is just the opposite extreme of assuming everyone accused is definitely a rapist.

no. you are equating sexual misconduct with rape. they are not equivalent. sexual misconduct is not sexual harassment. Freeman might have made a few sexual innuendo jokes, but he is no sexual harasser. these bimbos are exaggerating what he said or did to get attention/money

If you inappropriately touch your female co-workers or regularly make lewd comments to them, you have likely breached the sexual harassment code.

We're so anti-feminist that we're defending behavior that would get Joe Schmo fired.

freeman did not regularly touch his female co-workers inappropriately. he would have stopped his jokes if they had made known they felt uncomfortable, but they did not. therefore it is their fault.
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weekoldhotdog
05/26/18 5:37:24 PM
#68:


protip, ignore the white knights and sjws, then we can stop debating and go back to conversating

This is 'Merica where if I don't like wut you have to say than you got the RIGHT to stfu
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hockeybub89
05/26/18 5:37:49 PM
#69:


BlackHorse6969 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
to all the white knights defending the bimbos, you are being fooled. if there really were a case of sexual harassment, these bimbos would have filed a complaint against Mr. Morgan immediately after the events took place. The fact that they waited months to years to speak up about it over SOCIAL MEDIA indicates that they are lying and are seeking attention or money

You do know all the legitimate cases from Me Too are also months to years old, right?

irrelevant to the case at hand

You said that waiting proves they are lying bimbos. But some men and women waited a long time and aren't liars. In fact, most of these reports have been legitimate and the debate seems to be whether or not all these things various celebrities have done should be considered sexual assault/harassment.

I don't know where the assumption has come from that the average sex crime or sexual harassment report is fabricated, but it isn't from reality.

the metoo movement had actual rape cases in which the accusers were subjected to sexual acts by people like Weinstein. Freeman's case is more about his jokes being taken the wrong way. If these bimbos didnt like what he said or did, they could have easily filed a complaint. Freeman did not blackmail or intimidate these bimbos into keeping silent like the metoo movement. These bimbos had nothing to lose by speaking up right away

Yet people wait to report sexual misconduct literally all the time. Like how kids never tell on their bullies or employees fear ratting on their rule-breaking superiors. This is a weird way to prove they are lying. And I thought we hated jumping to conclusions without the facts? Assuming an accuser is a "lying bimbo" is not any better than assuming the accused is a vile misogynist and possibly rapist. You're just demonizing a different side, which actually is a reason why men and women don't always speak up immediately.
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HitTheGroundWal
05/26/18 5:38:10 PM
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What I remember being described before was definitely sexual harassment. While totally not cool, it didn't sound like full on sexual assault to me.

I think that might be what he's saying too?
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hockeybub89
05/26/18 5:42:04 PM
#71:


BlackHorse6969 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
to all the white knights defending the bimbos, you are being fooled. if there really were a case of sexual harassment, these bimbos would have filed a complaint against Mr. Morgan immediately after the events took place. The fact that they waited months to years to speak up about it over SOCIAL MEDIA indicates that they are lying and are seeking attention or money


Assuming people are lying bimbos is just the opposite extreme of assuming everyone accused is definitely a rapist.

no. you are equating sexual misconduct with rape. they are not equivalent. sexual misconduct is not sexual harassment. Freeman might have made a few sexual innuendo jokes, but he is no sexual harasser. these bimbos are exaggerating what he said or did to get attention/money

If you inappropriately touch your female co-workers or regularly make lewd comments to them, you have likely breached the sexual harassment code.

We're so anti-feminist that we're defending behavior that would get Joe Schmo fired.

freeman did not regularly touch his female co-workers inappropriately. he would have stopped his jokes if they had made known they felt uncomfortable, but they did not. therefore it is their fault.

Not being touched and awkwardly ogled should be an expectation not something people must request. Do you touch people and make lewd comments until they tell you to stop? It's like you're arguing that Morgan Freeman is socially stunted and never learned about personal space or how to read people.
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weekoldhotdog
05/26/18 5:43:55 PM
#72:


hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
to all the white knights defending the bimbos, you are being fooled. if there really were a case of sexual harassment, these bimbos would have filed a complaint against Mr. Morgan immediately after the events took place. The fact that they waited months to years to speak up about it over SOCIAL MEDIA indicates that they are lying and are seeking attention or money


Assuming people are lying bimbos is just the opposite extreme of assuming everyone accused is definitely a rapist.

no. you are equating sexual misconduct with rape. they are not equivalent. sexual misconduct is not sexual harassment. Freeman might have made a few sexual innuendo jokes, but he is no sexual harasser. these bimbos are exaggerating what he said or did to get attention/money

If you inappropriately touch your female co-workers or regularly make lewd comments to them, you have likely breached the sexual harassment code.

We're so anti-feminist that we're defending behavior that would get Joe Schmo fired.

freeman did not regularly touch his female co-workers inappropriately. he would have stopped his jokes if they had made known they felt uncomfortable, but they did not. therefore it is their fault.

Not being touched and awkwardly ogled should be an expectation not something people must request. Do you touch people and make lewd comments until they tell you to stop?


yeah, common sense is hard for some
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Axiom
05/26/18 5:44:17 PM
#73:


HitTheGroundWal posted...
What I remember being described before was definitely sexual harassment. While totally not cool, it didn't sound like full on sexual assault to me.

I think that might be what he's saying too?

Yeah he's dancing around it but he's admitting that he harassed them. He's saying it wasn't sexual assault
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HitTheGroundWal
05/26/18 5:51:30 PM
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I'm inclined to agree.

It was messed up and seriously something people need to not do, but it's not the degree of sexual assault.
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nicklebro
05/26/18 5:52:40 PM
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Axiom posted...
nicklebro posted...
Axiom posted...
nicklebro posted...
Axiom posted...

Your equating sexual harassment to normal sexual activity is really disturbing and quite illuminating as to why you think his behavior is ok

Normal sexual activity and sexual harassment can be the exact same action, it just depends on what the 2nd party feels about it. And if that second party doesn't communicate that they feel uncomfortable, then they are in fact communicating the opposite.

So by your logic a girl being raped who stays completely silent is actually consenting to it. Do you see how fucked up you sound right now

Did I mention anything about consent? No. And you can communicate things silently, as women being raped all do (unless there unconscious)

You say its not sexual harassment because they didn't "communicate" that they are uncomfortable. That's literally just saying because they didn't say anything (To a big star that could have their jobs at anytime mind you) that they made it ok. It the same as saying because a rape victim was too tramautized/scared/whatever to say anything she consented

Hell even Arkin told him to knock it off

Did I say it wasn't sexual harassment? Did I say it was ok? Have I said anything you've accused me of saying? Learn how to debate.
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El Mexicano Texano
05/26/18 5:54:41 PM
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This is what Cosby was pretty much saying and we all know how that turned out.
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MaverickXeo
05/26/18 5:55:57 PM
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Axiom posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
Axiom posted...
He already admitted to sexual harassment. This is just going to make the situation worse

how is it sexual harassment if he was never aware he made them feel uncomfortable? im sure he would have stopped his jokes if he knew. the problem is that these bimbos dont speak up, and they decide to save it to use later in order to act like victims

Lol what. Please don't tell me this is a serious question. Also it went beyond "jokes" if you actually bothered to read it. He lifted girls skirts. Do women really need to say what is and isn't ok for people like you to understand cause the rest of us know exactly what not to do


He never admitted to lifting any skirts. Until we have confirmation; he is innocent.
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Axiom
05/26/18 5:57:41 PM
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Oh I didn't realize you were basically UnfairRepresent and liked to argue for the sake of it even when you agree with the person you are arguing with
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weekoldhotdog
05/26/18 5:58:39 PM
#79:


El Mexicano Texano posted...
This is what Cosby was pretty much saying and we all know how that turned out.


Crosby sexually assaulted women AFTER he drugged them.

How are you comparing these events? They are apples to oranges.
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Master_Bass
05/26/18 6:00:10 PM
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This topic is a mess.
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weekoldhotdog
05/26/18 6:01:39 PM
#81:


Master_Bass posted...
This topic is a mess.


Clean it up.
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nicklebro
05/26/18 6:09:06 PM
#82:


Axiom posted...
Oh I didn't realize you were basically UnfairRepresent and liked to argue for the sake of it even when you agree with the person you are arguing with

Well there's quite a bit you don't seem to realize so I'm not surprised. Maybe some day you'll understand what I was posting.
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Axiom
05/26/18 6:12:11 PM
#83:


It's pretty clear to everyone what you're saying when you post that women not speaking up means they are consenting to it
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nicklebro
05/26/18 6:14:29 PM
#84:


Axiom posted...
It's pretty clear to everyone what you're saying when you post that women not speaking up means they are consenting to it

Lol you still don't get that I never said that? Man I guess I overestimated your intelligence. You clearly don't have the capacity to contribute anything to this discussion.
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weekoldhotdog
05/26/18 6:14:31 PM
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It's pretty clear axiom wants someone to pay attention to him.
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OldSnakeLiveon8
05/26/18 6:17:45 PM
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And I got modded and called a sexist for calling these women scheming opportunist. The liberal feminist agenda won't be sated until there's all real men are marginalized. Then they'll be able to push their agenda while submissive "male feminists" sit and do nothing.
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nicklebro
05/26/18 6:19:46 PM
#87:


weekoldhotdog posted...
It's pretty clear axiom wants someone to pay attention to him.

I think you're right, I just don't get why. Usually people try to hide their ignorance/inability to comprehend. He seems to almost be proud of it.
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nicklebro
05/26/18 6:22:03 PM
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OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
And I got modded and called a sexist for calling these women scheming opportunist. The liberal feminist agenda won't be sated until there's all real men are marginalized. Then they'll be able to push their agenda while submissive "male feminists" sit and do nothing.

Well exactly what reason did you give for calling them that? Do they actually stand to gain anything? You have to understand that liberals actually think differently than you, so you have to stop attributing your tendency to be a scheming opportunist to their actions.
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Axiom
05/26/18 6:22:29 PM
#89:


nicklebro posted...
Axiom posted...
It's pretty clear to everyone what you're saying when you post that women not speaking up means they are consenting to it

Lol you still don't get that I never said that? Man I guess I overestimated your intelligence. You clearly don't have the capacity to contribute anything to this discussion.


nicklebro posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
Axiom posted...
He already admitted to sexual harassment. This is just going to make the situation worse

how is it sexual harassment if he was never aware he made them feel uncomfortable? im sure he would have stopped his jokes if he knew. the problem is that these bimbos dont speak up, and they decide to save it to use later in order to act like victims

Exactly. If you don't say anything at the time then it's your fault for not setting boundaries. What is and is not acceptable is completely subjective, so it is in fact your responsibility to make your boundaries known.


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StarKnight23
05/26/18 6:28:53 PM
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I like how the media is now reporting on every sexual harassment lawsuit now that it's PC.

But had no problem covering up all these other allegations for decades.
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nicklebro
05/26/18 6:30:45 PM
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Axiom posted...

Lol and you're questioning my intelligence. You should stop embarrassing yourself

I'm not questioning your intelligence, I'm flat out saying it's far below average. You quote a post that doesn't contain the word consent to argue that I mentioned consent.... Lmao what do you expect people to think of you when you stubbornly refuse to admit when you're clearly wrong?
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hollow_shrine
05/26/18 6:34:04 PM
#92:


StarKnight23 posted...
I like how the media is now reporting on every sexual harassment lawsuit now that it's PC.

But had no problem covering up all these other allegations for decades.

So they're hypocrites. Less now than they were when they were covering up, but still.

And isn't a good thing. Out reporting media is less complicit America's rape culture.

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Axiom
05/26/18 6:36:34 PM
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nicklebro posted...
You quote a post that doesn't contain the word consent to argue that I mentioned consent

Oh so you're going the semantics route of "I didn't literally say the word consent so it doesn't count even though I believe the girls not speaking up makes it ok". That's just pathetic man. You should just accept the L and move on
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nicklebro
05/26/18 6:40:11 PM
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Axiom posted...
nicklebro posted...
You quote a post that doesn't contain the word consent to argue that I mentioned consent

Oh so you're going the semantics route of "I didn't literally say the word consent so it doesn't count even though I believe the girls not speaking up makes it ok". That's just pathetic man. You should just accept the L and move on

Oh now you're going back to claiming I said it was ok. Lol you just can't seem to come up with an argument that responds to something i actually said. That's clearly due to your horrendous reading comprehension and general lack of intelligence. Why don't you just sit back and STFU while the adults speak? Youre just gonna keep digging yourself a deeper hole. But it's up to you, I don't mind watching you have a meltdown.
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Axiom
05/26/18 6:45:13 PM
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I wouldn't really call my amusement over the denial of your own posts a meltdown. If anyone is having a meltdown it's the guy who has resorted to using ad hominems after getting corrected. Wouldn't you agree

It's cool though. I don't hold it against you. People like you tend to get upset when confronted with their flaws and mistakes
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nicklebro
05/26/18 6:52:10 PM
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Says the guy who can't understand a single post he's attempted to respond to mutliple times. My posts have literally nothing to do with consent or unwanted contact being "ok". They're all about communication. But of course you're too embarrassed at this point to admit how silly you look so I'm sure you'll just keep saying the same nonsense you've been saying.
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Dabrikishaw15
05/26/18 9:21:12 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
these bimbos

Oh gee, I can't possibly imagine why you don't consider this sexual harassment

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TheVipaGTS
05/27/18 10:49:52 AM
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OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
The liberal feminist agenda won't be sated until there's all real men are marginalized. Then they'll be able to push their agenda while submissive "male feminists" sit and do nothing.

what went wrong in your life?
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