Current Events > Leftists, Liberals and Dems explain how your life is worse after POTUS Trump won

(+) Yeah! (+)

I pay a shit ton more in taxes and for gas now.
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Honestly though the gas prices are probably the worst thing so far that is directly attributable to Trump and directly affecting me.

Death of Net Neutrality was congress.
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darkjedilink posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

The value of my investments has diminished, in spite of trump supporters fellating trump over the economy, but this was predicted by a financial advisor so I saw it coming, and it's happened before. Not worried about it at all, but considering how much "but economy!" "but Dow Jones!" I kept hearing, it's worth mentioning.

What are your investments? Tesla and CNN?

That's pretty funny.

Also, fire your financial advisor that predicted your investments diminishing while the markets have soared from election day through today.

Like, immediately.

Seriously. Fire them.

P4wn4g3 posted...

Honestly though the gas prices are probably the worst thing so far that is directly attributable to Trump and directly affecting me.

Death of Net Neutrality was congress.

Check the history of gas prices leading up to Memorial day.

BGleason22 posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Honestly though the gas prices are probably the worst thing so far that is directly attributable to Trump and directly affecting me.

Death of Net Neutrality was congress.

Check the history of gas prices leading up to Memorial day.

Hey if it's only temporary that would be great.
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my life has yet to be directly affected. does that mean im not allowed to think of donald trump as a bad president

My life has directly worsened after Trump won because:
- the nation in which I now live has lost respect and political influence around the world due to isolationism and arrogance.
- I now live in a world in which one of the largest manufacturing economies and producers of greenhouse gases has backed out of a deal to reduce the amount that is released into the environment which will lead to a quicker increase in global temperatures than if they had stayed in the agreement.
- I now live in a more dangerous world due to Trumps ignorance, arrogance, and unreasonableness in deciding to back out of a deal that would keep a nation from producing nuclear weapons.
- I now live in a country that has actively decided to increase the amount of debt that I, as a citizen of this nation, will be subject to, putting my social security and other future benefits at risk and causing the nation in its entirety to be considered more risky for foreign investors.
- I now have shame in the nation in which I live because of the way people trying to immigrate into this nation are being treated.
- I now live in a nation where judge appointments have been on hold until Trump began filling them with conservative judges that are going to push conservative agendas like mandatory minimums which have been objectively shown to increase the amount of tax dollars unnecessarily spent on the prison system.

There are a bunch more but judging on the posts so far its not worth any more time than I have already put into this.
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Balrog0 posted...

Bloodychess posted...

It's a good question.

For weeks after the election, that dog in the fiery room comic was EVERYWHERE.

No escaping it.

When does the fire start?

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/05/04/customs-and-border-protection-took-41000-texas-woman-six-months-ago-th/

jeff sessions has effectively resurrected civil asset forfeiture for a long time to come, as it was only just starting to wind down after years and years of hard activism from both the left and civil libertarians (e.g., rand paul)

it is quite an unconstitutional practice that is happening more now because of trump

But the left said the constitution is outdated and needs to be updated
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Well for starters practically every forum has been infested by insufferables and their political beliefs.

Hell CE went to shit after 2016.
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IWBYD posted...

Well for starters practically every forum has been infested by insufferables and their political beliefs.

Hell CE went to shit after 2016.

What? CE has never been further left than what it is now.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

IWBYD posted...

Well for starters practically every forum has been infested by insufferables and their political beliefs.

Hell CE went to shit after 2016.

What? CE has never been further left than what it is now.

Ahahaha
No.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

IWBYD posted...

Well for starters practically every forum has been infested by insufferables and their political beliefs.

Hell CE went to shit after 2016.

What? CE has never been further left than what it is now.

Ahahaha
No.

Almost every active user is either far left or left
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

IWBYD posted...

Well for starters practically every forum has been infested by insufferables and their political beliefs.

Hell CE went to shit after 2016.

What? CE has never been further left than what it is now.

Ahahaha
No.

Almost every active user is either far left or left

This is the first time I can ever remember CE having users who are openly communist.
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Everything about communism is bad. Every form or reincarnation of it is bad. It had caused more deaths than we can possibly count.
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The Admiral posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

IWBYD posted...

Well for starters practically every forum has been infested by insufferables and their political beliefs.

Hell CE went to shit after 2016.

What? CE has never been further left than what it is now.

Ahahaha
No.

Almost every active user is either far left or left

This is the first time I can ever remember CE having users who are openly communist.

Yep.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

IWBYD posted...

Well for starters practically every forum has been infested by insufferables and their political beliefs.

Hell CE went to shit after 2016.

What? CE has never been further left than what it is now.

Ahahaha
No.

Almost every active user is either far left or left

More than half, sure, but that's not different than any other point in time. Your post is stupid and flat out wrong. And CE was much more insufferable on the minority issues in the later years of Obama. But I guess who's keeping track really, clearly not you.
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whitelytning posted...

the nation in which I now live has lost respect and political influence around the world due to isolationism and arrogance.

How does that impact your life specifically in any way?

I now live in a world in which one of the largest manufacturing economies and producers of greenhouse gases has backed out of a deal to reduce the amount that is released into the environment which will lead to a quicker increase in global temperatures than if they had stayed in the agreement.

China backed out of the Paris Accord? That's rather stupid of them - they'd be getting paid to pollute more.

I now live in a more dangerous world due to Trumps ignorance, arrogance, and unreasonableness in deciding to back out of a deal that would keep a nation from producing nuclear weapons.

Iran was still producing nuclear weapons, because Obama gave them literally the only things they needed to complete it. We made a deal with one man, not the whole government, and there was literally no way to verify the other parts of the government were doing anything.

I now live in a country that has actively decided to increase the amount of debt that I, as a citizen of this nation, will be subject to, putting my social security and other future benefits at risk and causing the nation in its entirety to be considered more risky for foreign investors.

How is that different with Trump as President? SS has been "at risk" for decades, and any time anyone suggests a possible fix, the AARP cries that the sky is falling, and liberals lose their shit.

I now have shame in the nation in which I live because of the way people trying to immigrate into this nation are being treated.

You're ashamed people are expected to follow the law?

I now live in a nation where judge appointments have been on hold until Trump began filling them with conservative judges that are going to push conservative agendas like mandatory minimums which have been objectively shown to increase the amount of tax dollars unnecessarily spent on the prison system.

80 years ago, FDR added seats to the Supreme Court to push forth his agenda - an agenda you apparently like, since you're whining that Social Security is broken, even though your party broke it and won't fix it. Clearly, you're okay with the President rigging the Supreme Court.
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ask all the farmers who can't sell their soybeans and such because the orange dipshit wanted to get into an easy trade war with China.
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darkjedilink posted...

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When a nation loses political influence it is less able to influence international politics. The primary duty of a nation is to protect its citizens from outside threats. When a nation has less political influence it is weaker than a nation with a lot of political influence and less able to protect its citizens from the will of other states.

This thread and my response is not about China, it is about Trump and the U.S. The U.S. is "one of the largest manufacturing economies," which is why I used those words. I purposely didn't write "the largest manufacturing economy" but you chose to read it that way for some reason.

I am not aware of any reliable evidence that Iran "was still producing nuclear weapons." If you are able to find it please do so.

Trump's tax cut has and will directly increase the national debt. That is an objective fact. Again, this thread is about Trump, not anyone else. You can point to other examples of the national debt rising but it doesn't change the fact that Trump's tax cut will raise the national debt and not decrease it therefore negatively impacting my life.

I made no mention of legality.

Again, my post and this thread is about Trump. It is an objective fact that republicans held out on appointing judges until Obama left, and since Trump was elected they have been filling them with conservative judges that tend to push policies that cost us money. Whether other presidents have done something similar or not does not make Trumps impact on my life any less impactful.

(sorry for typos, trying to clean it up)
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whitelytning posted...

darkjedilink posted...

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When a nation loses political influance it is less able to influance international politics. The primary duty of a nation is to protect its citizens from outside threads. When a nation has less political influance it is weaker than a nation with a lot of political influance and less able to protect its citizens from the will of other states.

This thread and my response is not about China, it is about Trump and the U.S. The US is "one of the largest manufacturing economies," which is why I used those words. I purposely didn't write "the largest manufacturing economy" but you chose to read it that way for some reason.

I am not aware of any reliable evidence that Iran "was still producing nuclear weapon." If you are able to find it please do so.

Trump's tax cut has and will directly increase the national debt. That is an objective fact. Again, this thread is about Trump, not anyone else. You can point to other examples of the national debt rising but it doesn't change the fact that Trump's tax cut will raise the national debt and not decrease it therefore negatively impacting my life.

I made no mention of legality.

Again, my post and this thread is about Trump. It is an objective fact that republicans held out on appointing judges until Obama left, and since Trump was elected they have been filling them with conservative judges that tend to push policies that cost us money. Whether other presidents have done something similar or not does not make Trumps impact on my life any less impactful.

Your post is incoherent rambling that, at best, proves you're hypocritical in your aims. Every single thing you cite has been a problem for decades, meaning either:

-Trump's Presidency has no effect on you at all, and you just don't understand what you're talking about
-Trump's Presidency has no effect on you at all, and you're a hypocrite

As my mother said, "which lie is it?"
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These new flairs make my life worse.

Tyranthraxus posted...

If you were to inject me with HIV my life would still be relatively unchanged for a while.

seriously saying Trump getting elected will kill you, imagine being this sensitive
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CEs_EFG posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

If you were to inject me with HIV my life would still be relatively unchanged for a while.

seriously saying Trump getting elected will kill you, imagine being this sensitive

HIV won't kill me. Just stick me with life long expensive medical bills.
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darkjedilink posted...

Your post is incoherent rambling that, at best, proves you're hypocritical in your aims. Every single thing you cite has been a problem for decades, meaning either:

hey CE is this guy a troll because whitelytning's post seemed articulate and well thought out

BGleason22 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

The value of my investments has diminished, in spite of trump supporters fellating trump over the economy, but this was predicted by a financial advisor so I saw it coming, and it's happened before. Not worried about it at all, but considering how much "but economy!" "but Dow Jones!" I kept hearing, it's worth mentioning.

What are your investments? Tesla and CNN?

That's pretty funny.

Also, fire your financial advisor that predicted your investments diminishing while the markets have soared from election day through today.

Like, immediately.

Seriously. Fire them.

She's through work. She is the secondary one. I don't have a sa. Also my primary one knows what's up too so you can shut the fuck up with your misguided nonsense. Sorry I'm not one of those "government teet-suckers" or homeless people you assume every non-conservative is :shrug emoticon:
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

BGleason22 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

The value of my investments has diminished, in spite of trump supporters fellating trump over the economy, but this was predicted by a financial advisor so I saw it coming, and it's happened before. Not worried about it at all, but considering how much "but economy!" "but Dow Jones!" I kept hearing, it's worth mentioning.

What are your investments? Tesla and CNN?

That's pretty funny.

Also, fire your financial advisor that predicted your investments diminishing while the markets have soared from election day through today.

Like, immediately.

Seriously. Fire them.

She's through work. She is the secondary one. I don't have a sa. Also my primary one knows what's up too so you can shut the fuck up with your misguided nonsense. Sorry I'm not one of those "government teet-suckers" or homeless people you assume every non-conservative is :shrug emoticon:

Seriously - what are you invested in that Trump's policies are killing them, despite pretty much every stock, money market fund, investment fund, commodity, etc. going up steadily since his election?
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FrenchCrunch posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Your post is incoherent rambling that, at best, proves you're hypocritical in your aims. Every single thing you cite has been a problem for decades, meaning either:

hey CE is this guy a troll because whitelytning's post seemed articulate and well thought out

Yes.
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southcoast09 posted...

Everything about communism is bad. Every form or reincarnation of it is bad. It had caused more deaths than we can possibly count.

While we're on the subject of things we're not on the subject of, frnornkrg streeeeeeeblsloglarglrt floffenfleimf dir sneeeeegsnarrrrrgnst m I rite lol
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FrenchCrunch posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Your post is incoherent rambling that, at best, proves you're hypocritical in your aims. Every single thing you cite has been a problem for decades, meaning either:

hey CE is this guy a troll because whitelytning's post seemed articulate and well thought out

He's not a troll, he actually believes the incredibly dumb shit he types out. He calls anti-discrimination laws forcing businesses NOT to refuse service to people based on sexual orientation "slavery".
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darkjedilink posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

BGleason22 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

The value of my investments has diminished, in spite of trump supporters fellating trump over the economy, but this was predicted by a financial advisor so I saw it coming, and it's happened before. Not worried about it at all, but considering how much "but economy!" "but Dow Jones!" I kept hearing, it's worth mentioning.

What are your investments? Tesla and CNN?

That's pretty funny.

Also, fire your financial advisor that predicted your investments diminishing while the markets have soared from election day through today.

Like, immediately.

Seriously. Fire them.

She's through work. She is the secondary one. I don't have a sa. Also my primary one knows what's up too so you can shut the fuck up with your misguided nonsense. Sorry I'm not one of those "government teet-suckers" or homeless people you assume every non-conservative is :shrug emoticon:

Seriously - what are you invested in that Trump's policies are killing them, despite pretty much every stock, money market fund, investment fund, commodity, etc. going up steadily since his election?

Well, not CNN or the other thing, maybe you can tell me?
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Most of Trump's policies have had no impact, positive or negative, yet. And everything involving America's role in the world is too disconnected for you to accept it as something making my life worse.
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I've been living in an internment camp for 5 months. Feel bad.
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darkjedilink posted...

Every single thing you cite has been a problem for decades

Vacancies in the State Dept -- "But the prospects for any diplomatic breakthrough are clouded by senior State Department vacancies, including a permanent U.S. ambassador to South Korea. The Trump administration has also yet to fill other positions critical to any talks with North Korea, including a permanent undersecretary for arms control and international security affairs." CNBC NY, https://tinyurl.com/y9hu4w43
Trump's administration has been in place for just over a year. 1 year < a decade.

Paris Accord -- First international agreement of its kind that was completed in 2015. 2018-2015 = 3 years. 3 years < a decade.

Denuclearizing Iran -- Nuclear weapons have existed for around 70 years. The international agreement that was supposed to limit Iran's nuclear capabilities has existed for less than 5. 5 < a decade.

Trumps Tax Cut and the national debt -- "It has taken a little more than six months for the U.S. national debt to grow by a trillion dollars, a quick clip that has little precedent over the nations recent history." MarketWatch.com, https://tinyurl.com/y82bgy3e

Your statement is wrong, to the point its probably not worth continuing this "debate" because it seems you have nothing of actual substance to say.
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It's spring time for trolls, racists, incels and other annoying/terrible people.
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NepGear462 posted...

These new flairs make my life worse.

This is the only bad thing about Trump's America so far.
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whitelytning posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Every single thing you cite has been a problem for decades

the national debt

Oh, now the left cares about the debt. How convenient.
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Taharqa_ posted...

It's spring time for trolls, racists, incels and other annoying/terrible people.

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I'm an independent voter that didn't vote Trump (or Hillary). It's no worse. I even take home a little more from the tax cuts. The downside is he says stupid things and I still worry he is going to do something that starts a real major war.

Under Obama my Healthcare plan got destroyed and I now have an insane deductible and copays that basically acts as catastrophic coverage. Before him I had a pretty decent coverage plan.

I like Obama the person a lot better but so far Trump has been better for me and my family.
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John_Galt posted...

whitelytning posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Every single thing you cite has been a problem for decades

the national debt

Oh, now the left cares about the debt. How convenient.

He claims a trillion dollar increase in the debt is unprecedented, lol. Apparently, he was asleep throughout Obama's Presidency, where that happened pretty much annually.
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darkjedilink posted...

John_Galt posted...

whitelytning posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Every single thing you cite has been a problem for decades

the national debt

Oh, now the left cares about the debt. How convenient.

He claims a trillion dollar increase in the debt is unprecedented, lol. Apparently, he was asleep throughout Obama's Presidency, where that happened pretty much annually.

It seems y'all aren't concerned with the debt either and just want to use it as a partisan instrument.
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Kineth posted...

darkjedilink posted...

John_Galt posted...

whitelytning posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Every single thing you cite has been a problem for decades

the national debt

Oh, now the left cares about the debt. How convenient.

He claims a trillion dollar increase in the debt is unprecedented, lol. Apparently, he was asleep throughout Obama's Presidency, where that happened pretty much annually.

It seems y'all aren't concerned with the debt either and just want to use it as a partisan instrument.

I'm very concerned about the debt. We have an entitlement problem in this country that is not sustainable
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darkjedilink posted...

John_Galt posted...

whitelytning posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Every single thing you cite has been a problem for decades

the national debt

Oh, now the left cares about the debt. How convenient.

He claims a trillion dollar increase in the debt is unprecedented, lol. Apparently, he was asleep throughout Obama's Presidency, where that happened pretty much annually.

Trumps plan adds more in one term than Obama did in two. Regardless of that fact, do you suddenly not have an issue with Trumps massive spending? You aren't allowed to bitch about Obama doing so while supporting Trump doing it more. I mean, you are, but it is blatant hypocrisy
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John_Galt posted...

Kineth posted...

darkjedilink posted...

John_Galt posted...

whitelytning posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Every single thing you cite has been a problem for decades

the national debt

Oh, now the left cares about the debt. How convenient.

He claims a trillion dollar increase in the debt is unprecedented, lol. Apparently, he was asleep throughout Obama's Presidency, where that happened pretty much annually.

It seems y'all aren't concerned with the debt either and just want to use it as a partisan instrument.

I'm very concerned about the debt. We have an entitlement problem in this country that is not sustainable

The national debt isn't coming from the welfare programs at any appreciable rate.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

HypnoCoosh posted...

QassTank posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

How did your life get worse when Obama was in office?

My fucking insurance premiums and deductibles shot up through the roof for starters.

Many people had their hours cut too. Which ironically wound up saving them money compared to if they had been forced to take insurance through their company, but...

Also the health care tax penalty they charged people who didn't want or need health insurance let alone afford it.

They only charged people who could afford it. Besides, it educated people like you who would otherwise be completely ignorant of the health insurance issue America has.

L o fucking l af this dudes reasoning. Wow. Fucking hilariously stupid.
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FaytlessHearts posted...

Wow. f***ing hilariously stupid.

Yes I'm not sure exactly what he was trying to say.
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darkjedilink posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

BGleason22 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

The value of my investments has diminished, in spite of trump supporters fellating trump over the economy, but this was predicted by a financial advisor so I saw it coming, and it's happened before. Not worried about it at all, but considering how much "but economy!" "but Dow Jones!" I kept hearing, it's worth mentioning.

What are your investments? Tesla and CNN?

That's pretty funny.

Also, fire your financial advisor that predicted your investments diminishing while the markets have soared from election day through today.

Like, immediately.

Seriously. Fire them.

She's through work. She is the secondary one. I don't have a sa. Also my primary one knows what's up too so you can shut the fuck up with your misguided nonsense. Sorry I'm not one of those "government teet-suckers" or homeless people you assume every non-conservative is :shrug emoticon:

Seriously - what are you invested in that Trump's policies are killing them, despite pretty much every stock, money market fund, investment fund, commodity, etc. going up steadily since his election?

Oh you didn't hear?

That was his "secondary one" "through work" that he can not fire. His "primary" one knows what's up too, though.

Seriously though, what investments did you have @ImTheMacheteGuy that have diminished?

PS - Not conservative, don't think you're on welfare, homeless, etc. Do know that you are full of shit though.

BGleason22 posted...

Seriously though, what investments did you have @ImTheMacheteGuy that have diminished?

PS - Not conservative, don't think you're on welfare, homeless, etc. Do know that you are full of shit though.

Honestly, I'm talking mutual funds and I don't regularly check my statements. I was mostly shitposting. My mother asked if I had lost money (parents and all relatives on my mother's side all have stuff through the same group. All were started by my late grandparents) since trump and I said I hadn't checked. I haven't even looked at statement in 2018. She said she and my stepfather both lost money, so I assumed I did too. Again, I haven't checked. I don't monitor it closely because I'm not currently relying on it for anything. It's not a trust fund or anything and isn't enough for me to retire/live on, so I just the advisor people move stuff around or not. I've put some into a Roth IRA (I believe mostly cash from matured bonds? Idk, that's just gaining interest and I don't pay much attention to it). Most of the mutual fund stuff I think is in Coca-Cola. That's the best I can do when it comes to actual company information.

The through work thing, I don't pay attention to at all because the Roth IRA is far more substantial. The work one is like maybe 5% of my paycheck with the business matching it? Can't remember if 5% or 2%, I just went with whatever the maximum was that I was offered and since I knew it would be less significant the the IRA, I told them to handle it aggressively. The financial person, (I don't know if just a liason or someone handling the account directly) said (I think late last year?) yes, the economy was on the up because of trump due to consumer confidence (overall, certainly not locally) but that there would inevitably be a market correction. The Dow Jones dropping a bit (a few months ago I think it was) was indicative of this. I have no idea how much is actually in that fund. I just assumed it wouldn't catch up to the IRA for years, so I've just kinda ignored it. It's been at least 5 years since my employer started it though. Maybe I should actually look and see where it's at >_>.

That's the best I can do in terms of answering questions. Basically I was half-shitposting, assuming what I said to be true without bothering to verify it. I'm surprised as fuck that anyone actually cared to try and get more information from me. I'm honestly not sure what to think about that. I had expected to be overlooked and ignored.
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Careful, djl's gonna try and rip you a new one for maybe lying despite making blatantly false statements multiple times per day.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

BGleason22 posted...

Seriously though, what investments did you have @ImTheMacheteGuy that have diminished?

PS - Not conservative, don't think you're on welfare, homeless, etc. Do know that you are full of shit though.

Honestly, I'm talking mutual funds and I don't regularly check my statements. I was mostly shitposting. My mother asked if I had lost money (parents and all relatives on my mother's side all have stuff through the same group. All were started by my late grandparents) since trump and I said I hadn't checked. I haven't even looked at statement in 2018. She said she and my stepfather both lost money, so I assumed I did too. Again, I haven't checked. I don't monitor it closely because I'm not currently relying on it for anything. It's not a trust fund or anything and isn't enough for me to retire/live on, so I just the advisor people move stuff around or not. I've put some into a Roth IRA (I believe mostly cash from matured bonds? Idk, that's just gaining interest and I don't pay much attention to it). Most of the mutual fund stuff I think is in Coca-Cola. That's the best I can do when it comes to actual company information.

The through work thing, I don't pay attention to at all because the Roth IRA is far more substantial. The work one is like maybe 5% of my paycheck with the business matching it? Can't remember if 5% or 2%, I just went with whatever the maximum was that I was offered and since I knew it would be less significant the the IRA, I told them to handle it aggressively. The financial person, (I don't know if just a liason or someone handling the account directly) said (I think late last year?) yes, the economy was on the up because of trump due to consumer confidence (overall, certainly not locally) but that there would inevitably be a market correction. The Dow Jones dropping a bit (a few months ago I think it was) was indicative of this. I have no idea how much is actually in that fund. I just assumed it wouldn't catch up to the IRA for years, so I've just kinda ignored it. It's been at least 5 years since my employer started it though. Maybe I should actually look and see where it's at >_>.

That's the best I can do in terms of answering questions. Basically I was half-shitposting, assuming what I said to be true without bothering to verify it. I'm surprised as fuck that anyone actually cared to try and get more information from me. I'm honestly not sure what to think about that. I had expected to be overlooked and ignored.

Appreciate the honesty. Best of luck in your investments.

PS - move away from Coca-cola :)