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Scotty_Rogers
05/15/18 12:14:51 AM
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who we got fam
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SomeLikeItHoth
05/15/18 12:16:32 AM
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Kelly Hu
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Scotty_Rogers
05/15/18 12:16:55 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Kelly Hu
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Anisoptera
05/15/18 12:17:18 AM
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Asians are very difficult to relate to. See reviews of Sleeping Dogs. A lot of reviewers couldn't get into the game because of an Asian protagonist and Asian setting.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/15/18 12:17:56 AM
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Anisoptera posted...
Asians are very difficult to relate to.


Tagged as a racist

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redeadlink
05/15/18 12:19:35 AM
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Anisoptera posted...
Asians are very difficult to relate to. See reviews of Sleeping Dogs. A lot of reviewers couldn't get into the game because of an Asian protagonist and Asian setting.

I loved Sleeping Dogs
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Anisoptera
05/15/18 12:36:28 AM
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Non-white/Non-black protagonist movies don't sell well since they come off as a movie that caters to a niche audience.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/15/18 12:37:37 AM
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@Anisoptera posted...
Non-white/Non-black protagonist movies don't sell well since they come off as a movie that caters to a niche audience.


lol bruce lee, jackie chun and jet li had big movies back in da day
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Anisoptera
05/15/18 12:38:16 AM
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martial arts movies have never done well despite being popular.
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Dash_Harber
05/15/18 12:39:30 AM
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Anisoptera posted...
Asians are very difficult to relate to. See reviews of Sleeping Dogs. A lot of reviewers couldn't get into the game because of an Asian protagonist and Asian setting.


What the fuck? Not only was Sleeping Dogs a massive success considering it was a new IP (ish) and didn't get a quarter of the advertising budget most SE games get, but I fail to see how being Asian makes someone difficult to relate to.
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WhatHappened
05/15/18 12:40:47 AM
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Anisoptera
05/15/18 12:41:59 AM
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People like playing a character that looks like them. There's a reason why anthropomorphic main characters (Sonic, Crash Bandicoot, Gex, Jill Of The Jungle, etc) stopped being a thing.
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Dash_Harber
05/15/18 12:48:07 AM
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Anisoptera posted...
People like playing a character that looks like them. There's a reason why anthropomorphic main characters (Sonic, Crash Bandicoot, Gex, Jill Of The Jungle, etc) stopped being a thing.


Then how did they get popular in the first place?
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Oakland510_
05/15/18 12:48:13 AM
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Too bad Hollywhite won't cast Asian guys, especially full blooded Asian guys, because China. Gotta cuck the hell out of them and make them effeminate, which Hollywhite is doing really well in brainwashing millions of people not only in western countries but around the world too.
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DracoSpire
05/15/18 12:49:19 AM
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I am Asian, and considering that Asians are a minority of the population in the US, I only see an Asian superhero character being successful if not too much emphasis is put on Asian references.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/15/18 12:49:58 AM
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@Anisoptera posted...
martial arts movies have never done well despite being popular.


>popular
>never done well

fucking liar smh. kung fu movies were huge in the 70s. all the bruce lee movies and shit. they did well in the box office

and as i said before, jet li and jackie chan have been in huge movies as well. rush hour comes to mind

your a fucking liar and you should feel bad
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Anisoptera
05/15/18 12:52:37 AM
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You can like a martial arts movie but you will never see a martial arts movie in a "Top 100 movies of all time" list. It's the same with Anime. The only respected Anime films are the Studio Gilbhi ones.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/15/18 12:55:09 AM
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@Anisoptera posted...
You can like a martial arts movie but you will never see a martial arts movie in a "Top 100 movies of all time" list.


And yet they still have made a ton of money in the box office, which is the main thing that matters when determining a movie's popularity

who the fuck cares about some random critic's list. plenty of martial arts movies make a ton of money AND get good reviews, that's all that matters. to argue, "oh they don't do so well because you don't see them in, uh .... HERP DERP 'lists' as if lists mean anything" is fucking stupid
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Dash_Harber
05/15/18 12:59:03 AM
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Anisoptera posted...
You can like a martial arts movie but you will never see a martial arts movie in a "Top 100 movies of all time" list. It's the same with Anime. The only respected Anime films are the Studio Gilbhi ones.


Seven Samurai routinely ranks in Top 100's. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon won 10 Academy Awards and 40 other awards. Enter the Dragon is routinely referenced in action movie circles as one of the greats. As for anime, Akira is renowned for being a work of art and highly influential on sci-fi and cyberpunk.

So you are wrong on every count. You also failed to answer why you seem to believe that mascot characters stopped because people only like stories about creatures and people that look like them.
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Anisoptera
05/15/18 1:01:08 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Anisoptera posted...
People like playing a character that looks like them. There's a reason why anthropomorphic main characters (Sonic, Crash Bandicoot, Gex, Jill Of The Jungle, etc) stopped being a thing.


Then how did they get popular in the first place?


because videogaming was mainly a children thing in the 80's/90's. Now that the demographic of gamers has expanded to teenagers, college students, and parents there had to be change in how videogames are presented.
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Anisoptera
05/15/18 1:02:32 AM
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Akira, Perfect blue, Ghost In The Shell, Firefly, Angel's Egg are Anime movies loved by Anime fans, not the general public.
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Dash_Harber
05/15/18 1:02:58 AM
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Anisoptera posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Anisoptera posted...
People like playing a character that looks like them. There's a reason why anthropomorphic main characters (Sonic, Crash Bandicoot, Gex, Jill Of The Jungle, etc) stopped being a thing.


Then how did they get popular in the first place?


because videogaming was mainly a children thing in the 80's/90's. Now that the demographic of gamers has expanded to teenagers, college students, and parents there had to be change in how videogames are presented.


So adults need their characters to be the same race/species/etc, but kids don't care? You are saying that people learn to be that way?

You also haven't owned up to the fact that there are several hugely critically acclaimed movies with Asian actors.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/15/18 1:06:06 AM
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bruh stop responding to this anis dude lmao
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Anisoptera
05/15/18 1:06:18 AM
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Name one critically acclaimed Asian movie that isn't a martial arts movie. Harold and Kumor go to White Castle doesn't count.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/15/18 1:07:54 AM
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nice backpedal lol

"martial arts movies have never done that good"

to

"ok martial arts movies have done well but they don't count because they're the ONLY movies asians are well known for"
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Anisoptera
05/15/18 1:10:50 AM
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Lost In Translation doesn't count because the protag is white.
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Oakland510_
05/15/18 1:11:38 AM
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Anisoptera posted...
Name one critically acclaimed Asian movie that isn't a martial arts movie. Harold and Kumor go to White Castle doesn't count.


You gotta actually want to cast alpha Asian males in order to see critically acclaimed Asian movies but Hollywood don't want to see that happen. They even got white actors and actresses to play Asian characters lmao
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Atralis
05/15/18 1:11:53 AM
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Wong from strange. Wong is wong.
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Dash_Harber
05/15/18 1:12:29 AM
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Anisoptera posted...
Name one critically acclaimed Asian movie that isn't a martial arts movie. Harold and Kumor go to White Castle doesn't count.


You are literally moving the goal posts. You actually said that no martial arts film was critically acclaimed, which was wrong. I mean, it's not hard to come up with a basic list, but you are moving the goal posts; Grave of the Fireflies, Godzilla, Rashomon, Battle Royale, Oldboy, etc.
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MARKINGRAM22
05/15/18 1:16:49 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Anisoptera posted...
Name one critically acclaimed Asian movie that isn't a martial arts movie. Harold and Kumor go to White Castle doesn't count.


You are literally moving the goal posts. You actually said that no martial arts film was critically acclaimed, which was wrong. I mean, it's not hard to come up with a basic list, but you are moving the goal posts; Grave of the Fireflies, Godzilla, Rashomon, Battle Royale, Oldboy, etc.


What relevance does foreign movies have on this topic. The thing people dont talk about is that there just arent many Asians going into entertainment. It is something looked down a lot, but is slowly changing.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/15/18 1:17:48 AM
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No one's denying that Asians are discriminated against in Hollywood. @Anisoptera was just dead ass wrong when he said martial arts movies starring Asians were never popular
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MARKINGRAM22
05/15/18 1:18:35 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
No one's denying that Asians are discriminated against in Hollywood. @Anisoptera was just dead ass wrong when he said martial arts movies starring Asians were never popular


Yes, I think to Asian Americans they want to see an Asian American in a lead role though.
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Dash_Harber
05/15/18 1:18:37 AM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Anisoptera posted...
Name one critically acclaimed Asian movie that isn't a martial arts movie. Harold and Kumor go to White Castle doesn't count.


You are literally moving the goal posts. You actually said that no martial arts film was critically acclaimed, which was wrong. I mean, it's not hard to come up with a basic list, but you are moving the goal posts; Grave of the Fireflies, Godzilla, Rashomon, Battle Royale, Oldboy, etc.


What relevance does foreign movies have on this topic. The thing people dont talk about is that there just arent many Asians going into entertainment. It is something looked down a lot, but is slowly changing.


I can't believe I'm saying this but, yeah, what Scotty said.
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Anisoptera
05/15/18 1:18:56 AM
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So the only good Asian movies are foreign films and not Asian movies made in Canada/America. Hmmmm.
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Dash_Harber
05/15/18 1:21:34 AM
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Anisoptera posted...
So the only good Asian movies are foreign films and not Asian movies made in Canada/America. Hmmmm.


So basically, what you are saying is that Americans will never appreciate movies where the main character doesn't look like a WASP, but foreign movies that are critically acclaimed here don't count because ... why? I don't get it. Doesn't it make you even more wrong if Americans will not only enjoy foreign movies (where protagonists don't look like them) but actively seek them out and give them local awards?
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SirKahn
05/15/18 1:22:07 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
this anis dude lmao

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Scotty_Rogers
05/15/18 1:23:34 AM
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SirKahn posted...
Scotty_Rogers posted...
this anis dude lmao



i didn't intend to make a pun but lol
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Darmik
05/15/18 1:41:30 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Anisoptera posted...
Asians are very difficult to relate to. See reviews of Sleeping Dogs. A lot of reviewers couldn't get into the game because of an Asian protagonist and Asian setting.


What the fuck? Not only was Sleeping Dogs a massive success considering it was a new IP (ish) and didn't get a quarter of the advertising budget most SE games get, but I fail to see how being Asian makes someone difficult to relate to.


Unfortunately Sleeping Dogs was a bit of a sleeper/cult hit and wasn't seen as a big success for the studio. They have since closed down.

He is completely wrong about the reviews and the Asian protagonist had nothing to do with its sales IMO. Once people played it they usually thought the game was great. It just went to the bargain bin awfully quick.
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