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BJ-blazkowics
05/10/18 4:33:10 PM
#51:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
Guys.... opinion wanted.

I am 26, so is my gf. We have been together since 2009 and we are both in the same boat in life.

She is really pushing hard to have kids, but I don't want to.

The main reason is the fact that I don't consider myself an adult yet. In other words, I want to have a steady career, place to live, etc. before taking on the challenge of raising a child.

Aside from that, deep down, I am just not a fan of this world. Why bring another person into it only so that it can suffer the game of life?

Anyways... if I were to have a child, I would do it before 30.

Too old?

I really don't want kids until I feel stable.


I think that's responsible.

And I don't think 30 is too old FOR A GUY. You'll be 60 when the kid is 30. You will be 50 when he is 20.

30 may be old for a girl, though, since their baby makers have an expiration date.
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OpShaft
05/10/18 4:33:18 PM
#52:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
Guys.... opinion wanted.

I am 26, so is my gf. We have been together since 2009 and we are both in the same boat in life.

She is really pushing hard to have kids, but I don't want to.

The main reason is the fact that I don't consider myself an adult yet. In other words, I want to have a steady career, place to live, etc. before taking on the challenge of raising a child.

Aside from that, deep down, I am just not a fan of this world. Why bring another person into it only so that it can suffer the game of life?

Anyways... if I were to have a child, I would do it before 30.

Too old?

I really don't want kids until I feel stable.


Tell her that
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juicebox4
05/10/18 4:34:14 PM
#53:


no way
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EpicKingdom_
05/10/18 4:35:21 PM
#54:


OpShaft posted...
Tell her that


I have, I'm sure she understands but she still gets pissy lol.
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IloveJesus
05/10/18 4:35:34 PM
#55:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
Guys.... opinion wanted.

I am 26, so is my gf. We have been together since 2009 and we are both in the same boat in life.

She is really pushing hard to have kids, but I don't want to. She knows that we are getting old..

The main reason I don't want kids, is the fact that I don't consider myself an adult yet. In other words, I want to have a steady career, place to live, etc. before taking on the challenge of raising a child.

Aside from that, deep down, I am just not a fan of this world. Why bring another person into it only so that it can suffer the game of life?

Anyways... if I were to have a child, I would do it before 30.

Too old?

I really don't want kids until I feel stable.


If you feel strongly that you don't want kids. Don't have them.

If she feels strongly that she wants them you're both better off finding somebody who wants what you want out of life.
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Romulox28
05/10/18 4:35:57 PM
#56:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
Guys.... opinion wanted.

I am 26, so is my gf. We have been together since 2009 and we are both in the same boat in life.

She is really pushing hard to have kids, but I don't want to. She knows that we are getting old..

The main reason I don't want kids, is the fact that I don't consider myself an adult yet. In other words, I want to have a steady career, place to live, etc. before taking on the challenge of raising a child.

Aside from that, deep down, I am just not a fan of this world. Why bring another person into it only so that it can suffer the game of life?

Anyways... if I were to have a child, I would do it before 30.

Too old?

I really don't want kids until I feel stable.

i think it is a smart move to wait until you're stable before you have kids, that is kind of common sense to me tbh.

that being said, if you do not WANT kids, you're firm in this, and she does, you are at an impasse. the only option here is to break up, full stop.

dont given into the sunken cost fallacy or whatever people do to convince themselves to stay in doomed relationships where there's a major difference in values, do what is right for you (and her). being together since 09 doesnt mean shit ultimately
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Esrac
05/10/18 4:36:24 PM
#57:


I already have two children.

This topic makes me wonder if I'm the only regular poster on CE to successfully procreate. I forget how many of you are incels or otherwise opposed to traditional family stuff.
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EpicKingdom_
05/10/18 4:37:14 PM
#58:


Romulox28 posted...
i think it is a smart move to wait until you're stable before you have kids, that is kind of common sense to me tbh.


I think her frustration comes from, "how much longer until we are stable then?" Since we are definitely getting old now.

I mean, I have a programmer degree and I am almost finished with computer science, but I just don't have the career yet. I live in a rural area.
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thanosibe
05/10/18 4:38:07 PM
#59:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
Guys.... opinion wanted.

I am 26, so is my gf. We have been together since 2009 and we are both in the same boat in life.

She is really pushing hard to have kids, but I don't want to. She knows that we are getting old..

The main reason I don't want kids, is the fact that I don't consider myself an adult yet. In other words, I want to have a steady career, place to live, etc. before taking on the challenge of raising a child.

Aside from that, deep down, I am just not a fan of this world. Why bring another person into it only so that it can suffer the game of life?

Anyways... if I were to have a child, I would do it before 30.

Too old?

I really don't want kids until I feel stable.
Don't take this as a stab at you, but you might never. I know I never did. I get the stability part with finances and all. But I never felt like I was and adult. Still don't really. And now I have 14 and 11 year old sons.

But I do agree with most other's quoting you. I think it is something both people need to agree on, especially in the case of you and your SO since you both seem adamant and are on opposite ends of the pole.
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_Rinku_
05/10/18 4:40:24 PM
#60:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
Guys.... opinion wanted.

I am 26, so is my gf. We have been together since 2009 and we are both in the same boat in life.

She is really pushing hard to have kids, but I don't want to. She knows that we are getting old..

The main reason I don't want kids, is the fact that I don't consider myself an adult yet. In other words, I want to have a steady career, place to live, etc. before taking on the challenge of raising a child.

Aside from that, deep down, I am just not a fan of this world. Why bring another person into it only so that it can suffer the game of life?

Anyways... if I were to have a child, I would do it before 30.

Too old?

I really don't want kids until I feel stable.

26 in 2018
17 in 2009

You're still in a highschool relationship essentially. No wonder you feel stunted. That said, I'm roughly the same age and feel the same way. That is "I don't feel like an adult." My mother was taking care of me when she was my age, but I struggle to keep my life together, much less even entertain the idea of taking care of another human.

That said, 30 isn't too old. If you insist upon reproducing, you want to strike a balance between being too young (which, I think you're past the point of) and being too old (I'd say any age where you run the risk of being old enough to get the senior discount at IHOP by the time your kid graduates high school).
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BJ-blazkowics
05/10/18 4:42:17 PM
#61:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
Romulox28 posted...
i think it is a smart move to wait until you're stable before you have kids, that is kind of common sense to me tbh.


I think her frustration comes from, "how much longer until we are stable then?" Since we are definitely getting old now.

I mean, I have a programmer degree and I am almost finished with computer science, but I just don't have the career yet. I live in a rural area.


so you got a degree in programming and then went for another one in comp sci? Are both bachelors?
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Esrac
05/10/18 4:42:45 PM
#62:


thanosibe posted...
EpicKingdom_ posted...
Guys.... opinion wanted.

I am 26, so is my gf. We have been together since 2009 and we are both in the same boat in life.

She is really pushing hard to have kids, but I don't want to. She knows that we are getting old..

The main reason I don't want kids, is the fact that I don't consider myself an adult yet. In other words, I want to have a steady career, place to live, etc. before taking on the challenge of raising a child.

Aside from that, deep down, I am just not a fan of this world. Why bring another person into it only so that it can suffer the game of life?

Anyways... if I were to have a child, I would do it before 30.

Too old?

I really don't want kids until I feel stable.
Don't take this as a stab at you, but you might never. I know I never did. I get the stability part with finances and all. But I never felt like I was and adult. Still don't really. And now I have 14 and 11 year old sons.

But I do agree with most other's quoting you. I think it is something both people need to agree on, especially in the case of you and your SO since you both seem adamant and are on opposite ends of the pole.


Are you Paul Rudd?

He seems like a guy who would never acknowledge his own adulthood.
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EpicKingdom_
05/10/18 4:43:20 PM
#63:


_Rinku_ posted...
26 in 2018
17 in 2009

You're still in a highschool relationship essentially.


Yep, you got it. We met in HS.

I mean, I could tell you guys so much more about myself which would make my point even more understandable.

For example, we still live with my mom.

We have 1 car.

No credit.

1 job.

etc.

The list goes on.

We are both in college though, trying to work on it but it's tough.
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AngelicTouch99
05/10/18 4:43:38 PM
#64:


Nope. Gf and i both hate kids and shes on the pill, plus were both pro abortion
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Esrac
05/10/18 4:45:39 PM
#65:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
Romulox28 posted...
i think it is a smart move to wait until you're stable before you have kids, that is kind of common sense to me tbh.


I think her frustration comes from, "how much longer until we are stable then?" Since we are definitely getting old now.

I mean, I have a programmer degree and I am almost finished with computer science, but I just don't have the career yet. I live in a rural area.


If you live in a rural area, my advice is move to a not rural area. We have lived in a rural area for the past few years and I can see there is no viable future here. One of the reasons I want to enlist in the Navy is to move my family out of rural Louisiana and to somewhere with better resources, options, etc for my kids.
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_Rinku_
05/10/18 4:46:07 PM
#66:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
26 in 2018
17 in 2009

You're still in a highschool relationship essentially.


Yep, you got it. We met in HS.

I mean, I could tell you guys so much more about myself which would make my point even more understandable.

For example, we still live with my mom.

We have 1 car.

No credit.

1 job.

etc.

The list goes on.

I meant that more as you may be suffering from a bit of sunk-cost fallacy due to how long you've been together (and the fact that it began when you were so young).

Given those extra details though... no, you should not have a kid. I know it's difficult to own a home or even afford an apartment for our generation, but you shouldn't be reproducing in your mother's house.

Have you ever lived on your own? Not just with your girlfriend, but on your own?
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southcoast09
05/10/18 4:46:51 PM
#67:


I really dont want kids. Theyre loud, expensive, Petri dishes for disease. They can also get you sued.

I would rather a dog.
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EpicKingdom_
05/10/18 4:47:09 PM
#68:


Esrac posted...
EpicKingdom_ posted...
Romulox28 posted...
i think it is a smart move to wait until you're stable before you have kids, that is kind of common sense to me tbh.


I think her frustration comes from, "how much longer until we are stable then?" Since we are definitely getting old now.

I mean, I have a programmer degree and I am almost finished with computer science, but I just don't have the career yet. I live in a rural area.


If you live in a rural area, my advice is move to a not rural area. We have lived in a rural area for the past few years and I can see there is no viable future here. One of the reasons I want to enlist in the Navy is to move my family out of rural Louisiana and to somewhere with better resources, options, etc for my kids.


Of course, but it goes back to what I said regarding... "How much longer" until that is achieved, hopefully soon. Overall, I agree.
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Stewman_Magoo
05/10/18 4:48:33 PM
#69:


Already did once. Wife wants to do it again but I'm indifferent on having 2 little monsters
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EpicKingdom_
05/10/18 4:50:59 PM
#70:


_Rinku_ posted...
Have you ever lived on your own? Not just with your girlfriend, but on your own?


Negative.

It has mostly to do with how I was raised, long story.

I am not a basement dweller or anything like that, it's just the path life put me on.

Like I said, I focus a lot on school, but I feel like I focused a little too much on it.

I need to figure out how to get out of the desert now and put my degrees to use.
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Esrac
05/10/18 4:55:30 PM
#71:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
Esrac posted...
EpicKingdom_ posted...
Romulox28 posted...
i think it is a smart move to wait until you're stable before you have kids, that is kind of common sense to me tbh.


I think her frustration comes from, "how much longer until we are stable then?" Since we are definitely getting old now.

I mean, I have a programmer degree and I am almost finished with computer science, but I just don't have the career yet. I live in a rural area.


If you live in a rural area, my advice is move to a not rural area. We have lived in a rural area for the past few years and I can see there is no viable future here. One of the reasons I want to enlist in the Navy is to move my family out of rural Louisiana and to somewhere with better resources, options, etc for my kids.


Of course, but it goes back to what I said regarding... "How much longer" until that is achieved, hopefully soon.


You said you're 26. Right? Dude, you're not old. I'm 32 (as of today, actually. Happy Birthday to me). You probably have a good 40 - 50 years ahead of you.

I'm just a shitposting jackass on the internet, but if I were to offer you some wisdom, it's don't fall in the trap where you think your best days are behind you. That you're too old to stabilize and prosper. I thought that kind of thing through my 20s and wasted too many years doing bullshit jobs that paid the bills but weren't going anywhere.

Not to play Naval Recruiter, since the military isn't for everyone, but if its cost of moving you're worried about, you could enlist. They do pay to relocate you and your family. You'd have an advantage with your degrees. They also provide healthcare and other benefits. Just saying, if you manage it right, it could be a viable way to get on your feet.

Sorry if you're not into that kind of thing, I guess I'm just trying to say it's really not too late to get things together. I'm not good at encouragement.
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EpicKingdom_
05/10/18 4:57:10 PM
#72:


BJ-blazkowics posted...
so you got a degree in programming and then went for another one in comp sci? Are both bachelors?


At my local community college.

I spent 3 years chasing an associates in Computer Science (full time).
I spent the 4th year pursuing an associates in computer programming (graduated).
I just spent year 5 finishing the associates in CS.
I still have one more year to go for the associates/CS transfer degree.

Most of my peers have spent around 4 years chasing this damn degree.

I know, that's a lot of years for "two year" degrees, but the reality is, these damn degrees take longer than two years. At least in my area. Granted, I did go off the original path.
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_Rinku_
05/10/18 4:58:33 PM
#73:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
Have you ever lived on your own? Not just with your girlfriend, but on your own?


Negative.

It has mostly to do with how I was raised, long story.

I am not a basement dweller or anything like that, it's just the path life put me on.

Like I said, I focus a lot on school, but I feel like I focused a little too much on it.

I need to figure out how to get out of the desert now and put my degrees to use.

Please don't have a child with this woman. You don't want to, and you honestly don't sound ready for it.
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Konflikt
05/10/18 4:59:15 PM
#74:


I guess in addition to bitching mindlessly about gay people, @stevethewindow bitches about people who choose not to have kids. Model individual
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DavidWong
05/10/18 5:01:19 PM
#75:


Yes, the world needs more people like my fiance and I, we are better than the majority of people.

I am not trolling, I genuinely believe that.
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DarkTransient
05/10/18 5:20:07 PM
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BJ-blazkowics
05/10/18 5:23:44 PM
#77:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...
so you got a degree in programming and then went for another one in comp sci? Are both bachelors?


At my local community college.

I spent 3 years chasing an associates in Computer Science (full time).
I spent the 4th year pursuing an associates in computer programming (graduated).
I just spent year 5 finishing the associates in CS.
I still have one more year to go for the associates/CS transfer degree.

Most of my peers have spent around 4 years chasing this damn degree.

I know, that's a lot of years for "two year" degrees, but the reality is, these damn degrees take longer than two years. At least in my area. Granted, I did go off the original path.


got it.. that makes sense man.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/10/18 5:30:15 PM
#78:


No. Absolutely not.
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KogaSteelfang
05/10/18 5:36:49 PM
#79:


Esrac posted...
I already have two children.

This topic makes me wonder if I'm the only regular poster on CE to successfully procreate. I forget how many of you are incels or otherwise opposed to traditional family stuff.


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Vertania
05/10/18 5:39:39 PM
#80:


Already did. Kind of want to try one more time so I can have a son too, but I wouldn't want any more than two kids.
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qyll3
05/10/18 5:40:56 PM
#81:


yes
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-Henri
05/10/18 5:41:12 PM
#82:


Yep, gotta pass on those superior genetics XD

Being serious, well I'd certainly like to father children are some point I also want to make sure that I can provide the best environment and life for them possible, so I can't see it happening in the near future considering I'm quite young.
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Amazon_Shampoo
05/10/18 5:52:50 PM
#83:


Might adopt someday, have 0 interest in giving birth.
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dib153
05/10/18 6:45:43 PM
#84:


Consider this

https://www.boredpanda.com/ridiculous-reasons-kids-cry/
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Vicious_Dios
05/10/18 6:49:36 PM
#85:


Of course.
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stevethewindow
05/11/18 5:15:49 AM
#86:


Konflikt posted...
I guess in addition to bitching mindlessly about gay people, @stevethewindow bitches about people who choose not to have kids. Model individual


If never bitched I've been oppressed with my views
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notblargg
05/11/18 5:17:30 AM
#87:


there is no way I will ever have sex. it just isn't gonna happen. ever
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Vengeance29
05/11/18 6:58:21 AM
#88:


Not in this economy. I just want to be frugal and look after myself.
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BJ-blazkowics
05/11/18 9:17:32 AM
#89:


notblargg posted...
there is no way I will ever have sex. it just isn't gonna happen. ever


lmao why not?
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Sada_Pop
05/11/18 9:19:18 AM
#90:


thanosibe posted...
Christ CE is bitter and resentful about marriage, relationships, children, success, wealth .... I'm honestly thinking CE is what people say it is, and not an exaggeration.


Agreed but would you rather these miserable people create more miserable people to inflict on this earth?
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notblargg
05/11/18 9:21:52 AM
#91:


BJ-blazkowics posted...
notblargg posted...
there is no way I will ever have sex. it just isn't gonna happen. ever


lmao why not?

I have noo social skills. I don't gel. I can't make it happen. Even if a woman put it in my face I'd fuck it up.
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notblargg
05/11/18 9:23:30 AM
#92:


I'm 32 years old. I have never had action.
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foreveraIone
05/11/18 9:24:07 AM
#93:


notblargg posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...
notblargg posted...
there is no way I will ever have sex. it just isn't gonna happen. ever


lmao why not?

I have noo social skills. I don't gel. I can't make it happen. Even if a woman put it in my face I'd fuck it up.

omg fuck a prostitute and man up
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notblargg
05/11/18 9:25:37 AM
#94:


foreveraIone posted...
omg fuck a prostitute and man up

no way. I don't know street. I'm liable to get screwed over or land in jail no thanks
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foreveraIone
05/11/18 9:30:34 AM
#95:


notblargg posted...
foreveraIone posted...
omg fuck a prostitute and man up

no way. I don't know street. I'm liable to get screwed over or land in jail no thanks

wait lol backdoor is closed

you didn't need to go on the street bruh

now it's too late
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gunplagirl
05/11/18 9:32:57 AM
#96:


I will adopt but I have zero intention of giving depression to an unborn and innocent child
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notblargg
05/11/18 9:36:03 AM
#97:


foreveraIone posted...
notblargg posted...
foreveraIone posted...
omg fuck a prostitute and man up

no way. I don't know street. I'm liable to get screwed over or land in jail no thanks

wait lol backdoor is closed

you didn't need to go on the street bruh

now it's too late

no shit?
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xMythic
05/11/18 9:48:07 AM
#98:


I'm 32. I have a 3 year old son. My gf wants another child but I think I'm set on only having one.
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notblargg
05/11/18 12:21:35 PM
#99:


xMythic posted...
I'm 32. I feel like a 3 year old son.
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BlueJester007
05/11/18 12:27:08 PM
#100:


As an old man, hell no.

In my younger days, fuck no.
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